#HB TO ERROR;) | Explore Tumblr Posts and Blogs

ichiiixs · 7 days

Text

Just for Me.

Hi guys! I would like to provide a little short story along with my artwork! Since English is not my FIRST language and I know I am not a grammar expert… So expect it to be imperfect please! and also some grammatical errors too! but I hope you will enjoy this short writing. (｡･ω･｡)

Honestly, I had a lot of fun writing the story hehe (๑>◡<๑)

————————————————————————————————————.

You and Alastor have been dating for a while now.

Alastor is the most wonderful guy you have ever met. He is polite, has a sense of humour, and is very passionate about his work, which makes him even more attractive. His bright smile is the best thing. That charming smile is always heartwarming and appealing. He surely knows how much you adore that smile, since he keeps teasing you with it whenever he can.

Although Alastor is such a charming gentleman with a smiling face, you have to admit that there were some moments when he just seemed a little strange? Like the time when you look at him in the eyes, you really cannot tell what he was thinking. All you saw was your reflection and nothing else. Not even a single emotion of his. It was just the deep brown eyes with the reflection of your face looking for something in them. It was full of you, yet it was so empty of him. You get uncomfortable just thinking about it. Those strange feelings in those eyes seemed to tell you that he knew everything about you. No matter what you do or where you go, he just so happens to show up out of the blue. Especially when you are facing a problem, he always shows up. Was he perhaps just trying to find you? Or maybe he has been watching you all along?

Like today, when some guy at your workplace was trying to harass you, Alastor suddenly shows up and protects you before that person even gets a chance to touch you. He appeared and kicked the guy away. Alastor then told you that the guy had no right to talk to you in the first place and that he should not even dare touch you.

He had been watching you since the beginning?

You ignored those thoughts since you enjoy having him around and believed it was just a coincidence… right? It should not be that complicated.

However, it is unusual that you've been waiting for Alastor for at least an hour now. Waiting for your lover to come pick you up for the dinner he promised to take you to. It is raining a lot outside, and you begin to worry that he might just cancel the dinner. But Alastor is not that kind of person. Suddenly, you hear a knock on the door, and you rush to open it to see the man you've been waiting for. The smile that lights up your face every time even makes your heart skip a beat. And, my goodness, those eyes of his are there just for you.

Only you.

————————————————————————————————————————.

Hello again! So I will start drawing from each request now! However, it will probably take a while to complete because I have some university work coming up T_T and I will also be getting ready to work on the HH&HB goods & other stuff! Since I will be attend to several conventions, I will certainly be busy (@_@) but if you live in Vancouver, you are welcome to buy my items in the future ( ˘ω˘ )

#alastor #hazbin alastor #hazbin hotel alastor #hazbin art #hazbin hotel art #hazbin hotel #alastor x reader #alastor x y/n #alastor x you #alastor the radio demon #yandere alastor #human alastor #human!alastor

541 notes · View notes

thishazbinamistake · 5 months

Note

Howdy!

I am here to talk about Viv's horrible character designs.

From an animator perspective, they suck.

Here's why

1. The characters have way too much detail

For animation, more lines equal more work. You're going to be drawing them over and over, and it just creates more stress and work for the animators.

For example, I took one of the most egregious designs in HB (Beelzebub) and simplified it to be animation friendly.

(Can't send it here but I'll probably make a post about it or something.)

2. There's too much of 1 color

WHY IS THERE SO MUCH RED??

Especially since they're in a primarily red background, they don't stand out AT ALL.

Like how am I supposed to see them if they blend in to the background??

3. I have no idea what half of them are supposed to be

Charlie is based off a doll?

Alastor is based off of a deer?

Katie Killjoy is based off of a praying mantis?

Angel Dust is based off of a spider?

Beelzebub is supposed to be well... Beelzebub?

When designing characters, they need to be clear on what they're supposed to be! And no, explaining it on Twitter does not count.

4. The animation reference sheets are garbage

No wonder there's so much animation errors. There's no facial expression sheets, lip sync guide, nothing. It's just a 4 angle turnaround sheet where the character is in complex poses all the time.

If you Google Lackadaisy's animation reference sheets and then look at HB's, it's like night and day.

I'm more than willing to send some examples (along with the edit I did) if you want

So yeah, what are your thoughts?

These are all great points! I think you summed up the main problems very well, but I'll elaborate on each of them. I'm no expert at character design or animation by any means, but I'll do my best to explain my points!

First of all, like you said, the character designs are way too complicated. Anyone who knows even the slightest amount about animation knows you want to simplify and streamline your designs as much as possible to make it easier on the animators. Vivzie is way too obsessed with her Deviantart OC lookin'-ass character designs to actually do this, even though it would seriously help to make the animation process way faster and easier. Beelzebub is seriously the best (or worst?) example of this.

I feel so bad for the poor souls who had to animate this. There are just way too many moving parts here, from her multiple arms, her wings, her markings, to her freaking lava lamp hair and tail?? It's just awful. And so many of Viv's designs suffer this problem, I could go on and on.

Like, I think it actually is a nice looking design, as a still image. Maybe not for the demon Beelzebub, but as a general furry OC, I think she's cute. But that's beside the point. I would love to see your redesign of her!

Next, the RED. So, most of the characters we see in Helluva Boss are red-skinned imps, which has been a common depiction of demons for centuries. One big problem I have is that there's little contrast in these designs. Let's look at our three main imps.

Aside from some white and yellow highlights, they're all mostly red and black. Their color palettes aren't distinct in the slightest! And, I mean, come on. Red accessories against what's almost the exact same shade of red skin? Really? It just doesn't look good. A little contrast here and there goes a long way, like... maybe make Moxxie's bowtie blue? Or Blitz's pendant green? I don't know, anything to help each character stand out, and help give them more visual intrigue.

It doesn't help that most of the backgrounds are primarily shades of red, too. Here's a few screenshots I found that really show this problem.

Look at all that fucking red. Like you said, there's such little color variation that the characters blend into the background. Now, to be fair, I did specifically choose these screenshots because I think they really highlight the problem, but this really is what so much of the show looks like. Granted, we do have a bit more variety in the different rings of Hell, each with their own main color, but this is still too much red, considering how much the color comprises the main characters' designs.

Next, like you said, Vivzie is really bad at making characters actually look like the things they're supposed to look like. Let's take Alastor as an example!

Oh boy! More red and black. So, Alastor here is supposed to be a deer. What's the first physical characteristic that comes to mind when you think of a deer?

Yeah, those big, impressive antlers! So... where are his? Oh, they're those tiny little forks on his head that are almost entirely obscured by his stupid emo hair. Like, come on! Giving him bigger antlers would have made him look so much cooler and more intimidating, and it would have been a great focal point for his design! It's such a missed opportunity. (I know he has bigger antlers in his scarier "demon" form, but you still could have made these a little more impressive.) And don't even get me started on those ears... they look more like fox ears or something. Like you said, a good design shouldn't need to be explained through supplementary material. We should be able to tell what a character is supposed to be just from looking at them!

Another great example is Angel Dust, who, despite being a spider, lacks so many distinct features we associate with spiders! He only has six legs instead of eight, he doesn't have pedipalps or chelicerae, and he also lacks that big old spider booty, which I think is such a missed opportunity, considering he is supposed to be in the sex industry. He isn't even remotely shaped like a spider, he looks more like a fuzzy stick bug or something.

Part of me feels like Viv is too afraid to make her characters look unique, so she just goes with the same, skinny humanoid design for just about everything. It's such a shame, because I really do think she is a talented artist who can make some really interesting designs. But then again, she also gave us Beelzebub, so... maybe not.

As for the reference sheets, maybe I wasn't looking hard enough but I couldn't find any official ones for the main characters, so if you could send those my way I would appreciate it! Though it honestly wouldn't surprise me if they were bad. I did look up Lackadaisy's and found them pretty easily and...

This is so freaking comprehensive and detailed, it's incredible! Look at all those poses and facial expressions!

Comparing Vivzie's works to Tracy's feels kind of unfair, since Tracy has been working on Lackadaisy for 17 years, and it really shows. This is leaps and bounds above Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel in quality. Rocky's design is tight; it's detailed, but not overly complicated. There isn't an obnoxious overuse of highly saturated colors, and there's such nice contrast between his fur, his eyes, suit, and tie, making his design very nice to look at. You can also tell so much about his personality and the world he lives in just from his appearance. It's such a good design, and Rocky is just one example from Lackadaisy! All of Tracy's designs are memorable and stand out from one another, unlike so many of Vivzie's characters, whose designs honestly feel interchangable.

So much thought and care has gone into Lackadaisy, and I seriously cannot wait for the full series, as well as all the other amazing indie animated series that have been coming out recently. It's sad that Helluva Boss is seen as the pinnacle of indie animation, when there are so many other series out there that are just.. better! Lackadaisy, obviously, but we've also got Digital Circus, Murder Drones, Monkey Wrench, and so many others that deserve way more appreciation than what Helluva Boss receives. And that's just from an art direction standpoint, we aren't even talking about writing. That's a whole other can of worms.

All of that being said, it's obvious that a ton of love and hard work went into Helluva Boss, and I hold absolutely nothing against the animators and artists at Spindlehorse. These poor design choices are a hallmark of Vivzie's art style, and they're simply working with what they've got. There is such wasted potential here because it feels like Vivzie is too afraid to step outside her comfort zone and design something that isn't a brightly colored, sharp-toothed twink, or skinny anthro wolf girl.

Anyways, that about wraps up my thoughts. Thanks for the ask, this was fun to delve into! And again, I'd be very interested in seeing you post your redesigns! 👀

#hazbin hotel critical #helluva boss critical #vivziepop critical #long post

164 notes · View notes

chaifootsteps · 5 months

Note

Old Hazbin Hotel was cringe, but in a charming and cute way. New Hazbin is just cringe, in a "not even "so-bad-its-good" way, its just bad" cringe.

The Hazbin pilot was cringe, due to the cleary inexperience from the producers to make a proyect like this and it had a few problems. But, it gave me the vibes of "first big proyect made by a group of friends of enthusiastic young adults, who you can tell they all had fun making it and expect the proyect to get bigger and keep working together on it". Similar to that feeling of when you see a drawing on deviantart made by a 10yo that isnt perfect (like it has anatomy errors, weird coloring, etc) but you can tell that the kid put a lot of love in their drawing and they have the potential to be better in the future, and that was makes it so charming.

Meanwhile, the new Hazbin is just annoying and hard to enjoy cringe, gaves me the vibes of "pretentious yet souless proyect made by a rich childish asshole that never grew up past the age of 14 and is more obsessed with "proving the haters wrong" than actually making a good show. There is not a single drop of love or care that doesnt come from the Director's fantasies of being famous for it. Everyone in the production couldnt give less of a shit about it they are just there for a quick buck and in a few years they will talk about how they were treated like shit during the production of this show". It reminds me of Santa's INC, that unfunny pretentious show that was a "criticism of misogyny and white privilege" or something like that but its delivered in the most childish way posibly. The creator of the show was salty that people didnt like the show so he ended up saying that everyone who criticised it was a white supremasist on Twitter. Pretty sure Vivzie will do something like that when Hazbon comes out and people are honest with its criticism, seeing she basically did the same with HB, but with HH this will definetely destroy her reputation.

I seriously think we are on the bad timeline and there is another one where Hazin was never picked up by any company and it stayed indie, being directed by someone who isnt Vivzie.

Vivzie trying to comprehend why people liked the pilot and Hunicast more than the final product she ditched it all to make:

youtube

#Anonymous #vivziepop critical #hazbin hotel critical #viv stuff #video reply #actual blog post

79 notes · View notes

robotbodies · 10 months

Text

all the welcome home numbered links in order for anyone who’s looking :) i found all of these except number 3 which i figured out trial-and-error by going through letter combos.

https://www.clownillustration.com/1-14-ph

https://www.clownillustration.com/2-14-sp

https://www.clownillustration.com/3-14-hs

https://www.clownillustration.com/4-14-bf

https://www.clownillustration.com/5-14-be

https://www.clownillustration.com/6-14-jf

https://www.clownillustration.com/7-14-ej

https://www.clownillustration.com/8-14-ef

https://www.clownillustration.com/9-14-fp

https://www.clownillustration.com/10-14-js

https://www.clownillustration.com/11-14-jb

https://www.clownillustration.com/12-14-hb

https://www.clownillustration.com/13-14-he

https://www.clownillustration.com/14-14-bh

and here are all the non-number links i’ve found

https://www.clownillustration.com/i

https://www.clownillustration.com/i-2

https://www.clownillustration.com/help

https://www.clownillustration.com/will

https://www.clownillustration.com/will-2

https://www.clownillustration.com/phone

https://www.clownillustration.com/understand

https://www.clownillustration.com/find

https://www.clownillustration.com/way

https://www.clownillustration.com/a - addition from @eyesteeth

https://www.clownillustration.com/soon - found on this post by @pastelalleycat

https://www.clownillustration.com/staff-only found on reddit

feel free to reblog with any more!

#welcome home #welcome home puppet show #welcome home spoilers #welcome home help #welcome home links #resource #welcome home theory

174 notes · View notes

gartenofbanny · 11 months

Text

I noticed something when Erin posted the ref sheet of the DHORKS Characters she designed. So starting off Truth Seekers never mentioned the Leader of the DHORKS Agency at all, hell I don't even think that he's even in the wiki page.

And next, two of the characters (the 6th and 3rd DHORKS Agents) were whitewashed, the DHORKS Agent with the Hijab wasn't used, the 5th DHORKS Agent has a lighter skin color, and the 1st DHORKS Agent had so many inconsistencies with his design in the first 10 seconds of the fight it's insane (I didn't feel like posting the images of the first agent, but if you look at the action sequence you'll see the difference in appearance).

Now, I'm not sure if these are intentional whitewashing or animation errors, I hope it's the latter because the skin tones on the 5th and 6th DHORKS Agents do change and the first DHORKS Agent does have a bright beard, but not the exact colored beard. However this is but another example of the animation errors in Helluva Boss as every single god damn episode including the fucking pilot has animation errors. I get that HB is being animated by freelance animators, but through communication and time the majority of these animation errors could be avoided. This also shows how much of a great artist Erin is. In all honesty, communication is key when it comes to everything so all of these animation errors or changes in skin tone really makes me question the communication Viv has with her workers or how she encourages communication among them.

#helluva boss #vivziepop critical #vivziepop criticism #helluva boss critical #helluva boss criticism #vivziepop #helluva critical #hazbin hotel #helluva boss critique #hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel critique #hazbin hotel critical #vivienne medrano

186 notes · View notes

xx-slug-xx · 3 months

Note

Hello! It have been a while since i've heard about the controversies of Viv, especially about some of her views

If you want, can you explain about her transphobia, homophobia, racism and antisemitism, pls?

I’m not an expert by any means, but I can explain a little bit. There’s other sources that are more reliable than my word though, especially since I’m not going to go into huge detail lol. I encourage you to do your own research, my word is not law and there’s a good chance I’m misinformed.

I will give a disclaimer that, despite being proship, I do discuss some of the things she depicts in her fictional works on top of things she does irl. Some of which is just my opinions based on observation of the show. But most of this is in regard to stereotypes being portrayed, which is an area of fiction that actively perpetuates bigotry and I don’t really see it as “just fiction”. That’s just me though. There’s some screenshots of how she treats real people too.

Anyway, antisemitism:

The character Mimzy from HH is a blatant Jewish stereotype. Not only is she someone who’s extremely money hungry, small sharp teeth, short, fat, has a nasally voice, but she’s also got the classic hooked nose that’s seen in antisemitic propaganda, (none are bad things on their own. If it wasn’t for all of them combined, then I wouldn’t think twice about it tbh) On top of that, she’s not a well liked character in the show, being portrayed as annoying, selfish, greedy, and even sleazy to some extent. She’s not a character that has many positive aspects to her

But on top of that the character Rosie is based on the Jewish mother stereotype as well. It’s even in her audition notes.

But wait! There more! She was a fan of the I-hate-jewce blog here on tumblr, as she followed them and did an art trade with them that depicted Hitler as a Sausage Party character. The excuse she makes was that she didn’t believe in I-hate-jewce’s opinions, but admired their way they voiced their opinions. And that it was a different time when making jokes and stating harmful opinions like these were “more accepted”. Which, to me, is a piss poor excuse for being a bigot in the past and/or present.

Onto transphobia:

This screenshot may be faked, but it also lines up with her pfp at the time the screenshots were taken, as well as other viewpoints she’s lauded to. They are from discord, formatting is wierd bc they were taken in compact mode

However, she does misgender her trans associates. There’s been an ongoing (to my knowledge) situation and dispute between someone named Ken and Vivzie. Ken uses they/them pronouns. Vivzie has been seen many times referring to Ken using she/her, despite knowing Ken’s identity quite well. Here’s some screenshots from some times they’ve talked together, Vivzie talking about Ken to others, and Ken voicing their concern twards Vivsies views on their gender. (Sorry for bad quality btw)

In addition to this, Vivzie in the past (when zoophobia was being worked on), has created a character by the name of Jojo who was a direct caricature of a past friend that she clearly didn’t like.

Here’s the character

Plus, folks who have worked with Spindlehorse have discussed that transphobia is an issue in the work place. Not really Vivzie’s fault, she can’t control everything. But still, it’s odd and not cool that this continued to be an issue.

Millie’s trans brother in HB doesn’t have any speaking roles, or even a name. And there was an error in one of the episodes he appears in where his horns indicate that’s he’s cis male instead of being trans (not a huge concern, animation errors happen. I just find it not cool that rep for trans men was overlooked) She also doesn’t credit people who voice the only trans masc character with a speaking part, plus he’s also unnamed. But from the looks of it, his VA is a cis male. Keep in mind the contrast for Sallie Mae being that her VA is a trans woman.

Vivzie has shown a pattern of not respecting trans men as real men. Or any afab person as their gender if it’s something other than cis. It’s a pattern that’s come up that can’t be denied imo. It’s especially obvious when it’s towards people she has some sort of beef with.

Would also like to bring up how her merch sexualizes Sallie Mae. Like, to the same degree that the main characters of HB are. She’s a side character who has minimal speaking parts and appearances. Yet, she’s sexualized to hell and back. I’m all for making trans women feel desirable and beautiful, because they are! I think it’s great! But imo, I find it kinda weird that her trans fem rep is treated like this when she’s not a main character. Plus, her merch doesn’t do that to her trans masc characters. Why do it to one but not the others? But hey, that’s just me and it’s not a rule that everyone has to agree with me on that lmao

Racism:

Valentino is black coded, and is a blatant black stereotype (violent, black, drug addicted pimp archetype who sexually abuses people). I don’t feel like I need to explain why that’s not a great look.

Alastor is “black coded” (ashy skin and he’s white washed to hell). He uses voodoo, which is a closed practice that black slaves created to empower themselves and have a connection to their roots despite their horrible circumstances. He’s “mixed” Creole from some older depicting of him in notes if I recall.

She has supported Blaire White (she did black face and mocked blm) (look up that whole issue lol, too much there to talk about but I’m putting it here anyway) before back tracking when people realized what was going on. Vivzie back peddles a lot on her past though, never making a true apology or owning up to her past actions.

Any characters that DONT look white washed in the shows are not designed by her. Every poc character that she designs herself is white washed to hell and back. I know they are demons, they don’t look human, that’s a given. But Grim from TGAOBAM is a literal skeleton, but you still know he’s black. There’s better ways to depict bipoc coded characters though, that’s my point. She prides herself on her bipoc representation, when it’s shit representation when she’s the one soully behind it imo. There are really good character designs that depict people of color, but they aren’t Vivzie’s ideas and that credit goes to the character design team!

Sir Pentious is based on another ex friend of hers who she used to mock. She didn’t like him, saw him as a joke, etc. He was indigenous American, his hood is ment to look like his hair (which Vivzie mocked extensively). The whole “inventor” aspect of his character is ment to mock the steampunk aesthetic that her ex friend liked. He’s also the butt of a lot of jokes. Overall, I don’t think it’s very cool that Vivzie has repeatedly shown to make caricatures of real like people who belonged to minority groups.

Nifty’s pilot design depicted her skin as yellow. She’s Japanese. This is on top of being a maid and being boy crazy. That’s not a stereotype at all /sar. (She’s one of my favorites and she did get a redesign in the premier. And she got the best jokes in the show so far imo. She’s silly lol but I still wanted to bring it up, despite how much I like her)

She has ignored bipoc fans when they express being uncomfortable with anything relating to how she depicts poc characters. And it’s blatant that she doesn’t care about the voices of concern from her bipoc fans. If you are going to depict bipoc characters in your show, especially cultural depictions, listen to people who are bipoc and who come from those cultures you are depicting! She as a white person needs to listen to bipoc people when they voice their concerns to her about characters that are supposed to represent them!

Also! During her recent trip to Japan, she ate at McDonald’s and KFC despite there being a boycott due to the companies both supporting Israel. Idk how you feel about it, anon, and it’s not something I’ll go into too much detail over since I’m not super knowledgeable on it. But it’s a really important detail about Vivzie to a lot of people out there, and I wanted to bring it up because of that. (I hate all wars and genocides before anyone makes assumptions about my stances)

Homophobia:

Not much to say reguarding this other than I found that she favors mlm relationships heavily over wlw relationships. HB isn’t a show that focuses on lesbian relationships because that’s just not the way the show is written, and that’s fine. However, she prides herself on the wlw rep she created due to HH being female focused. The main relationship between Charlie and Vaggie feels pushed away in favor of more mlm relationships. They clearly have been dating for a while, and so, their relationship doesn’t need to be explored as much as some others imo. However, to me the show doesn’t do too much with them and there’s a large focus on the male characters and their relationships as opposed to the female lead and her girlfriend.

I will give her credit on her depictions of gay and bi men, I do like a lot of those and I can’t really find anything terrible to say about that or find evidence of how she treats real gay people. Everyone is free to think whatever they want though. However, queer people are the only minority group that Vivzie actively is in support of from what I’ve seen, which is sad imo.

You could say that Angel Dust is a homophobic stereotype (sex loving, drug addicted, drag queen, sex worker, feminine), but there’s real people in the world who share his experiences and it makes me feel like the people who claim such just don’t take into account of the real people in the queer community who share similarities to him. Like, there’s a lot of queer men who do sex work and are addicted to various substances. It’s a struggle and his character is a testament to that.

Anyway, do your own research, come up with your own conclusions, you can still like her work and characters, and all that! This is stuff off the top of my head that I could think of.

(Any Vivzie stans who try to tell me that this is either all faked or rumors will be ignored btw. I’m tired of dealing with y’all every time I say anything about her that’s even remotely negative. You guys can like what you like, even if your attachment to Vivzie is unhealthy imo and you shouldn’t place anyone on a pedestal. She’s not perfect, nobody is. This is my opinion, and it won’t change. I don’t hate her shows or her work. I just dislike her as a person.)

#tw transphobia #tw racism #tw anti semitism #tw homophobia #helluva boss #hazbin hotel #vivziepop #proship #profic #anti anti #profiction #anti censorship #comship #anti harassment #fandom discourse

39 notes · View notes

critical-hazbin · 3 months

Note

Thoughts on Alastor so far? He’s probably my favorite character in HH, but after the poor writing that came from HB episodes 3 and 4, one part of me is worried the crew will ruin him when Hazbin Hotel eventually starts getting episodes.

(This ask was sent in a long time ago, sorry it took me until now to finally answer.)

Spoilers for Season 1 of Hazbin

I was almost certain they were going to mess up Alastor's character horribly. I did not have much faith in the writing for Hazbin. With Alastor specifically, there is a lot of room for error in terms of characterization, and I found personally that he was the trickiest one of the cast to write correctly and consistently. Between fandom woobifying, conflicting information, and a lack of insight into his motivations, Alastor's character has seen many varying interpretations over the years.

Well, now that the show is actually airing, I have to say that I don't think they ruined Alastor's character: they actually did a great job with him. I do understand the perspective of those who disagree with me, and miss the pilot characterization. But as a long-time Alastor fan, I feel the writers gave him surprising depth and found his flaws intriguing.

Pilot Alastor (Ed Bosco and Gabriel Brown) was goofier, more lighthearted, chattier, and more openly affectionate. Nothing really seemed to rattle him, and direct signs of his deviousness were minimal. He had more extensive radio sound effects and was truly a product of the thirties (reflected in dialogue through specific phrases), but had a smaller range of emotional expression as a result of his "radio broadcaster" persona. Husk seemed to owe him a favor, as opposed to Alastor owning his soul outright - "I suppose I could cash in a few favors" - and this was a common fan interpretation, not just a misinterpretation on my part.

Series Alastor (Amir Talai) is more temperamental, prideful, openly intimidating, reserved, and less prone to rambling. The radio effects are minimal unless needed for dramatic effect; his smile is sharper and less genuine. We see a wider range of emotions (frustration, anger, fear) from this Alastor, all with the smile still in place. There's a certain coldness about him, from his demeanor towards Husk (whom he keeps as a pet in an abusive soul contract) and his annoyance at others (Charlie, the Egg Bois, Sir Pentious) that contrasts his superficial warmth from the pilot.

It's a subtle but definitely noticeable set of changes for a character many fans had grown attached to. And yet, I found I liked the new version of Alastor, and felt that the writers added depth to a character who could have easily been a flat, all-powerful "Gary Stu" archetype. We see how these character flaws come back to bite him in the finale and how his limitations imposed by his deal set up his character for other, more interesting developments. Him having a breakdown and then immediately returning to the others with a smile on his face like everything is fine? That's the kind of Alastor that I knew was in there, and it was amazing to actually see it on screen. (I always figured he was a mess beneath the mask. That last scene was not shocking for me the way it was for many others.)

This fascinating characterization hasn't stopped other people from saying they "miss the pilot Alastor" and "wish he was still like that". I get that, I really do. If pilot Alastor was how Alastor wanted to be seen by others, series Alastor shows us who he really is. Unsurprisingly, not everyone is going to like that.

Side note: Ed and Gabriel did a perfect job voicing Alastor. Amir is also doing very nice work. I still miss the pilot voices, even though I like the voice he has now.

#hazbin critical #still not sure if that is the right tag for this?#Hazbin hotel #alastor #pilot alastor #series alastor #responding to criticism #alastor character analysis #alastor analysis #asks

24 notes · View notes

mariacardenas162002 · 2 months

Text

TFA-HB-SG: Sg optimus prime como loona 💙🤍😳🐺

El imita a loona pero el es un lobo rebelde que no le importa nada hizo algunos retoques con el disfraz lo cual le quedó muy bien 💙🤍🐺😳😏😏😏😏😏😏😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸

#tfa sg human error #tfa sg optimus prime #transformers animated shattered glass #helluva boss sg optimus prime #helluva boss loona #hb

0 notes

ramstead · 10 months

Text

Welcome Home secrets from the new update!

I highly doubt I have found everything so if anyone knows more feel free to leave a comment! Judging from URLs it looks like there are 14 show clips to be found.

Wally Audios (URLs spell out “I Will Help You Understand Soon Neighbor”)

https://www.clownillustration.com/i Found on home page

https://www.clownillustration.com/i-2 Found on sticker page

https://www.clownillustration.com/will Found on Wall’s information page on the neighborhood page

https://www.clownillustration.com/will-2 Found at the bottom of the “What’s Welcome Home” page

https://www.clownillustration.com/help Found at the bottom of the “What’s Welcome Home” page

https://www.clownillustration.com/you-1 Found on the “You” page accessed through Wally’s information page

https://www.clownillustration.com/understand Found at the bottom of the exhibition page

https://www.clownillustration.com/soon Found on the error page

https://www.clownillustration.com/neighbor Found in the “So Below” page, accessed by clicking underneath Home on the neighborhood page. Audio contains no dialogue, only creaking noises, presumably from Home.

https://www.clownillustration.com/phone Found by clicking on Wally’s button on the phone on the merchandise page

Show Clips

https://www.clownillustration.com/7-14-ej Found in the guest book page one under a comment by zip. Video shows a crayon drawing of a pie. Audio features Julie and Eddie playing “business”. They receive a phone call near the end and audio cuts out when Eddie tells Wally there is a call for him

https://www.clownillustration.com/11-14-jb Found at the top of the stickers page. Video shows light through trees. Audio features Julie and Barnaby discussing jokes. Audio cuts out when Julie asks Wally if her joke was funny

https://www.clownillustration.com/9-14-fp Found at the bottom of the neighborhood page on the menu. Video shows an apple game and a plate(?). A baking tin with food inside and a napkin are placed down halfway through. Audio features Poppy and Frank discussing new recipes and recipes that may cheer up Frank's butterflies. Audio cuts out when Frank asks Wally if he agrees that they are all safe while cooking.

https://www.clownillustration.com/8-14-ef Found on Eddie’s information page on the neighborhood page. Video shows paper links. Audio features Eddie asking Frank to remove a bug from his post office. Audio cuts out when Frank asks Wally if he’s scared of bugs, too.

https://www.clownillustration.com/5-14-be Found at the top of the transcript page. Video shows a plant and some papers. Audio features Eddie, who falls when delivering mail and monologues briefly to Wally; and later Barnaby, who chases Eddie away. Audio cuts out when Barnaby tells Wally not to warn Eddie of his approach next time.

https://www.clownillustration.com/12-14-hb Found at the top of the News page. Video shows an ice cream float with a spoon and twisty straw in the background. Audio features Howdy and Barnaby discussing Howdie’s family drama. Audio cuts out when Barnaby asks Wally how he is liking the ice cream soda.

https://www.clownillustration.com/6-14-jf Found on the merchandise page next to the records. Video shows bug-eaten tomatoes. Audio features Frank complaining to Julie about the beetles eating his tomatoes. Julie suggests seeing if Howdy has something that may be useful. Audio cuts out when Julie asks Wally if he can help them come up with a joke to pay Howdy with.

https://www.clownillustration.com/1-14-ph Found on the media page under Live Interview Segment. Video shows Wally’s hands holding some yarn with more yarn in the background. Audio features Howdy delivering more yarn to Poppy. Howdy gives Poppy a yarn spinner and audio cuts out when Poppy asks Wally if he can help her figure out how to use it.

The show clips seem to be taken from Wally’s perspective and always cut out as soon as another character says his name. Some clips acknowledge him before the audio cuts out, but some do not.

#welcome home #welcome home arg #playfellows #clownillustrations #welcome home theory #welcome home secrets #wally darling #eddie dear #frank frankly #julie joyful #sally starlet #poppy partridge #howdy pillar #barnaby b beagle

61 notes · View notes

nottapossum · 25 days

Note

you think Travis could be redeemed, not like redeemed as in going to Heaven but redeemed as a character?

Travis is pretty much a gross man but atleast he's not as bad as Val, maybe Travis could learn the errors of his ways and somehow apologise to Angel

this cliche I know but love me a good redemption arc X3

I really like redemption arcs. For some reason, I really want to see more redeemed Villans in HB and HH. And I usually hate Villan redemption arcs, lol. (But like it's hazbin so...they should have some.)

I dont usually love them, especially if you don't see their growth, you know. Idk. They're a bit overdone in today's modern movies and shows.

Villan says sorry, and they get over it.

Not really my cup of tea ☕️ and not a proper arc..

But I'd actually like to see Adam and Vox redeemed or Stella. We talked about the possibility of her redemption before. With proper growth and story arcs that we can see throughout.

But Travis?

That would be interesting.

He seems to love watching people suffer, though. Which is mostly why I hate Valentino.

But like Vox, he mostly just enables Val, and probably because he's scared of him. He's not the one actually doing anything... so if he turns himself around and sees the error of his ways. Could be possible 🤔

Seeing Angel in such a bad situation that he realizes Angel didn't deserve the treatment he received, and so he tries to help him? And apologize for using him?

I think it could happen.

And ngl he'd make a fun edition to the main crew, and if he also belongs to Val. Imagine the drama!

And the support Angel could get if Travis was on their side?

But! On the other hand.

He's still a pretty bad person. We don't know how bad.

He hasn't done anything too horrid I don't think, but it could be worse than we know.

Or not as bad as we think. Idk. 🤷‍♂️

He reminds me of the bat from great mouse detective. Silly bat that goes along with the bad guy because he thinks its..."fun" or will grant him respect or something...

But those are just my thoughts.

What do you guys think?

And hey, if Travis is in Ittybittysinners, what classification would you guys classify him as?

~♾️

@todayimfour @ask-dusty-boy @im-not-paying-my-taxes @abby5577 @trophyxtissues2

#ittybittysinners #ittybittysinnersq&h #hazbin hotel agere #hazbin hotel age regression #agere hazbin hotel Travis

18 notes · View notes

eerna · 3 months

Note

I really like your response to the anon asking about what are the strengths of TFOTA. I think you nailed it regarding how Holly Black hit it out of the park, and I’m curious if you can expand on what you think some of the series missteps were. (TFOTA is an all-time fave for me, but nothing is perfect!)

For me, I think the way she structures her books into different parts does make them drag a little (especially some parts of the middle of The Wicked King). Like sometimes it feels like characters are spinning their wheels a bit while she’s setting everything up for the plot, but I ultimately don’t mind this because her plots are so well executed.

As always, love your breakdowns and critiques so just curious to hear more!

Ayyy thanks, glad you agree! :D

OO yes I heard that as an often critique of her stuff! I do think you're right and the slowness is present, but to me it's not an issue since the characters are fun enough for me never to be bored. I'm the kind of reader who can enjoy the slowest thing imaginable as long as the characters interest me.

Structured like the strengths post, my main issues. 1) The YA writing style of overexplanation. These books are sometimes great at leaving things unsaid, but other times they beat you over the head with the same thing over and over again or go into explanations for stuff you'd think is understood. Example: Jude constantly repeating it is messed up she lives with the guy who killed her parents in book 1. Like. Okay. We know. Trust us we didn't forget it's wrong to kill people and steal their kids. Of course, her constantly thinking about her trauma is part of her character, but it can be expressed in different ways - examples of how this was done well were "I love Madoc, I could love anyone" or "I get scared and I remember the smell of my mother's insides". 2) The repeating stuff from my list of pros... where it doesn't belong. Sometimes characters do or say stuff because HB wants them to do or say them bc she likes to write about it, but it makes NO sense. This was my main issue with TSH - for example, there is absolutely no reason for Oak and Suren's relationship to draw parallels with Jude and Cardan's to the point of repeating phrases, because they are so different that it jerks me right out of the story being told. 3) The editor is asleep on the job. There are quite a few basic editing errors - the amount of times characters smile or grin per page, and the continuity errors. This is the most frustrating aspect because it is so easy to solve!!!!! Just read it once more and click delete!!!! 4) Sometimes HB's "let's go back and elaborate on something from the past to give it a new dimension" works great, and sometimes it makes no sense. Examples: the Ghost betraying Jude because he was forced to, Locke being an Undersea collaborator and a gancanagh. 5) Taryn. She gets her own point because I love her and it's so unsatisfying how she ended up. She spends 2 books girlbossing and being such a sympathetic traitor, then gets pregnant and decides to stop being the worst offscreen and never does another plot relevant thing again. I don't know if HB got tired of her or if she realized everyone hated her and decided to sideline her so people would stop yelling, but MAN is it such a standout bad conclusion among a sea of good ones. 6) JUSTICE FOR OAK GREENBRIAR MY SHORT KING he was always described as tiny and underdeveloped for his age RIGHT up until he became a love interest, when he SUDDENLY started towering over everyone while still overflowing with short king energy. This is a joke to end the list on a happy note but also I would pay for a version of TSH where my monster girl has to lean down to kiss her bf

#eggtina #eernask #eernask talk tfota

9 notes · View notes