#“so…a reverse adrienette?” “NO-”

[gracestone]

With the end of Gabriel's arc on the show also, in a sense, comes the end of the Marinette's arc as the knight in shining armor to Adrien's prince locked in a tower. And I, for one, freaking loved how they brought that gender reversed fairy tale to an end!

First, we have Adrien fully giving into his confinement, because there's simply nothing he can do about it at the moment (especially with his nightmares and fears), so it's up to Plagg and Ladybug to save the world and him. It's a moment very reminiscent of when iconic princesses like Snow White and Aurora are put to sleep by a curse.

Marinette, being Adrien's knight, of course fights the evil villain who's keeping Adrien imprisoned.

And in the end, when the villain is no more, the prince(ss) is awakened by a true love's kiss, in a new and happier world.

And they lived happily ever after.

#miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #ml recreation #ml conformation #ml meta #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #adrienette #lovesquare #lovesquare meta #my post #was thinking about the scene by the pool and then the true love's kiss bit hit me #and i had to write a little post about it #i just really adore the gender reversed fairy tale aspect of their love story #and i think it's really unique #wish i could go deeper into it but this is all i have time for #also i know for adrienette it isn't so simple as living happily ever after #since we're getting at least two more seasons #but it's just about the imagery of this ep

[tempests-bards-and-birds]

S502 Evolution Trailer

#so umm #how was this trailer insanely cute and frustrating at the same time #the SECOND she decides she has to move on adrien is like 'oh huh maybe i like marinette now' #don't get me wrong i'm really happy about the reverse love square but #Pain Is Going to Ensue #miraculous #mlb #miraculous ladybug #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #adrienette #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #alya cesaire #ml gifs #mlb gifs #ml multiplication #ml multiplication spoilers #ml season 5 spoilers #the second

[hartwign]

adrienette but reverse is good too ^^

I also have a song for this, but not so much the lyrics as the vibe

#art #miraculous ladybug #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #adrienette #ml paris special #shadyclaw

[character-fan19]

So I calculated the exact screen time of all the love square ships in season 1

Yeah, it's exactly what it says. With 99% accuracy I went through all the episodes of season 1, calculated the exact screen time of ever love square ship in every episode, added them all up and made charts to compare them.

But first of all, where did I get the idea to do this? Well, I was looking through Tumblr and I so a post by someone called purrincess-chat answering an ask about Adrienette in Season 5 and in her reply she mentioned how Ladynoir and Adrien have around the same screen time in seasons 1-4 with Ladynoir having slightly more and that is simply reversed in season 5 with some Maricat and Ladrien sprinkled here and there. So that made me wonder: how much really is the distribution of screen time between the love square ships? So I did this, starting with season 1. But before we get into the results...

Some Ground Rules

What does and doesn't count as screen time for a particular ship? Here are the rules I laid out:

Both characters of the ship must be present in the scene for it to count. That's means no scenes of Marinette fawning over ads and pictures of Adrien or Adrien swooning over the fact that the love letter he found in "Dark Cupid" might be from Ladybug.

At least one of characters of the ship must be reacting to the presence of the other character for it to count or at least doing something together. We can't have Maribug and Adricat both just doing their own separate thing acting like background characters and call that shipping content.

If one or both of the characters believe that there are speaking with the alter ego of the other character, then it counts as screen time for that ship. Meaning when Ladybug goes to check on Adrien in "Volpina" and Cat Noir pretends to be his civilian self taking a shower, it counts as Ladrien screen time, not Ladynoir.

Now that that's dealt with let's get into the distribution.

Screen Time Distribution

To the surprise of absolutely no one, Ladynoir dominated season 1, having 76% of the total love square screen time. Makes sense, right? There's an akuma every episode so there's Ladynoir ever episode and since this is season 1, it's more focused on the strict formula rather than some actual development between the other ships.

Coming in a definitely-not-close second is Adrienette with 18.5% of the total love square screen time. No surprises here. Adrienette along with Ladynoir are the main 2 ships while Maricat and Ladrien are simply the side ships. Plus, it's not often for just one of them to be transformed.

Speaking of which, Maricat and Ladrien come in 3rd and 4th with 3% and 2.5% of the total love square screen time respectively and pretty close to each other, Maricat having a slight edge over Ladrien.

Now let's see the trend across the episodes.

Screen Time Trend

For the most part, Ladynoir is on a completely different level than the other ships, only temporarily being dethroned for one episode- that episode being "Gamer"- by Adrienette which was the episode they both practiced for the Ultimate Mecha Strike Tournament and we got some Adrienette bonding with Marinette giving Adrien her lucky charm bracelet. Other than that, it's been on top the whole time, with there even being episodes with solely Ladynoir screen time and having an average of 4 min 22 sec of screen time per episode, with most screen time being in "Animan" (8 min 28 sec) and least being in "Pixelator" (1 min 3 sec) a.k.a the episode where Adrien was stuck in the titular villain's prison dimension for most of the episode. It mellowed down a little towards the end of the season due to there being more plot relevant stuff in those episodes than akuma battle but picked itself right back up for the finale.

Adrienette stayed fairly low in screen time and having screen time in most episodes having a huge spike in the episodes "Kung Food" to "Animan", even temporarily dethroning Ladynoir like I mentioned before with 6 min 28 sec of screen time.

Finally, Maricat and Ladrien had a few small to moderate spikes here and there with some even being two episodes in a row and Ladrien having most of it's screen time towards the end of season 1.

Conclusion

Yeah, so that's it. I'm going to be doing these after I complete every season so keep a look out.

#miraculous ladybug #ml analysis #ml love square #ml season 1 #adrienette #ladynoir #maricat #ladrien

[sizzleissues]

Idk thinking about it maybe Adrien is not just totally blind to other peoples feelings for him but it’s again a product of the low self-esteem wherein he doesn’t think anyone would ever love him sincerely. His fans ‘love him’ but they love the image crafted by his father. His mother loved him but she was taken away from him. His father probably loves him but he definitely likes to give and take it away at a whim. So surely that ‘I love you’ was platonic, I am nothing to love and she definitely meant that in a friend way, because who even am I?

I think he’d easily twist every confession into something that fits the narrative he tells himself, and that he’d never want to make someone uncomfortable by misreading their intentions so he just doesn’t read them at all. Like marinette acts weird around me a lot, she does stuff I’ve seen people with crushes do but surely thats just the way marinette is and it isn’t my business to push myself on her in case she’s just awkward because I’m a drag of a person blah blah blah.

Idk if I articulated that well but do you get the idea?? Even if you want someone to love you that way, if you do not know/like yourself you will reject the possibility someone does like you that way.

And Ladybug is delightfully unattainable so he can place her as the person whom he can imagine loving him because there’s no way LB would actually love him. Sure she’s his partner, their love is totally platonic and so he’s safe to love that way. The other side of his low-self esteem, the side that craves validation is shown here. As a civilian he cannot believe love can be given to him without price or cost and it’s probably something else, he’s mistaken. But the moment the love square reverses, he can’t see her attempts at wooing him as sincere. They’re a test or a joke, or an affect of the miraculous. Nope, she definitely doesn’t mean it. And adrienette only happens because he gathers a little self-esteem and he knows marinette likes him, it all comes to together for him finally, there’s too much evidence now and he likes himself enough to take a shot.

LIKE COME ON

Anyway I think that is interesting

#sizzle rambles #I definitely wasn’t trying to write fic and then had this thought #And couldn’t insert it into the fic cause it was sort of out of no where #But also i kinda wanted marinette to be like #‘I realised the reason why Adrien never understood my confessions was not because #He didn’t like me or he was totally blind to it #But because he didn’t think he could deserve it if it were true” #miraculous ladybug #adrien agreste

[lilypads17]

i know tons of ppl hated this season or whatever but i am SO entertained. you've got the reverse lovesquare, you've got adrienette dramatic swinging camera kiss, you've got gabriel getting his ass kicked at every opportunity possible, you've got space episode, you've got no lucky charm/cataclysm limit, and now we have fucking CANON ELDRITCH KWAMIS??? man. having the time of my fucking life over here

#i recognize tons of ppl are pissed off about the way gabriel was like. held up as a hero at the end #but remember that this is not the ending. this is not definitive. #we're still in the middle of this story. relax bros. write some fic. enjoy urselves. its ok #miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #ml season 5 spoilers #marinette dupain chang #marinette dupain cheng #gabriel agreste #(rip bozo) #tikki and plagg #ladynoir #marichat #adrienette

[adrinoir]

Where did LadyNoir go?

I’m definitely not the only person who has said and thought this, plus feels a bit salty about it lol. But I think it needs to be talked about more.

In the beginning of season 5, Ladybug and Cat Noir start falling into the Reverse Love Square dynamic. Ladybug starts acting real flirty around Cat Noir, and Cat Noir is slowly pushing her away. But the thing is, it’s made obvious that Cat Noir still loves Ladybug and Marinette still loves Adrien. More importantly, that Cat Noir still loves Ladybug.

Like, Cat Noir was absolutely devastated and tried to completely cataclysm an akumatized villain over tricking him with the LadyNoir dream sequence. An extremely clear sign he still loves Ladybug.

And then, even more struggles develop between them, as shown through the Marichat dynamic in Elation. Cat Noir realizes he can’t love someone being masked. Marinette starts to realize how hard it is to love Cat Noir HOWEVER she still didn’t want to give up, hell she kissed that boy.

But, as soon as Adrien and Marinette end up together after all these struggles, no awkwardness nor signs of still loving each other exist at all in the LadyNoir ship. It’s all just completely wiped away, all LadyNoir does is act like heroic partners. It’s almost like the Marichat kiss and LadyNoir dream never happened.

I know it’s important that Marinette realized it’d be too tough to be with Cat Noir and that Cat Noir notices it’d be too hard to be with Ladybug - I’m not saying it isn’t. However, I wish there were still signs - even if they’re small - of awkwardness or tension between Ladybug and Cat Noir. Or, they could even show Marinette and Adrien individually struggling with these feelings outside of duty. The love they’ve had for each other can’t just suddenly drop entirely. It’s something that’s built so much over time.

Yes, the Adrienette ship has built over time and it is important that they’re together now. BUT, I’m also saying that it’s unrealistic to portray Ladybug and Cat Noir no longer having any sort of romantic feelings for each other.

Without showing any more progression of the LadyNoir ship at all, the Love Square flops a bit, especially since LadyNoir is just as important of a ship as Adrienette.

#miraculous ladybug #tales of ladybug and cat noir #miraculous #miraculers #adrien agreste #chat noir #ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #adrienette #ladybug x chat noir #ladynoir #ml love square #love square #reverse love square #ml season 5 spoilers #ml season 5 #ml elation #marichat #ml jubilation

[literaphobe]

there’s this korean mlb twitter account who caused ladybug to start trending in south korea bc a tweet she made about why shadybug/toxinelle is so amazing to her blew up, resulting in a bunch of other tweets about the reverse special, and under the tweet she also announced that adrienette are dating, which ALSO blew up w hundreds of quote tweets expressing shock that adrienette actually got together, tl;dr this is how several korean viewers have found out adrienette are together I suppose! it’s kind of cute to me bc they’re all just so excited and being so positive and having so much fun

#mlbposting #a bunch of them are sad bc the korean dub isn’t out yet #I find that so cute #I love reading all their tweets in korean and understanding it all

[iamsosmaug]

Miraculous Fic Recs

Recently I've been complaining a lot on the internet how sucky the recent seasons of ML have been, and how much better the old fanfics are; I'm going to prove my point by sharing my tried-and-true rec list. Here we go.

Back To Us - Written in 2017, so some things are inaccurate. Basically Marinette, as Ladybug, kills Gabriel Agreste on accident by pushing him off the Eiffel Tower and Adrien moves to Milan. Seven years later Marinette is a rising fashion designer, her long-lost partner comes back seven years later but hot, and a new Hawkmoth shows up on the very day Adrien comes back. Suspicious. INCLUDES: Antihero!Chat. Alternate superhero names for Alya, Nino + there are only seven miraculouses which honestly I like a lot better than Ladybug just busting another one out whenever she feels like it. At one point, it was the longest fic in the fandom but now it's not even close. 446k. Requires an Ao3 account to read.

Second Chances- Again, written fairly early in the fandom. Adrien is a single dad and Alya volunteers Marinette to be his daughter's nanny - the premise sounds like it could turn out really weird but I promise it's not. Adorable adorable. INCLUDES: Past ChloexAdrien and MarinettexNathanael, and Adrien never went to school. Reverse best friends (Alya + Adrien, Mari + Nino). 105k.

Whose Woods These Are (I Think I Know) - Ladrien Cinderella AU. Super well-written in a kind of fairytale style. I honestly love this fic. 105k.

Spotty Connections - Adrienette texting fic (no miraculous AU, but does incorporate LadyNoir). Tikki & Plagg are M&A's cats. One of my favorites ever. 66k.

Film It - Adrien is a youtuber! Soon all of Twitter ships #adrienette. INCLUDES: Gabriel Agreste's A+ Parenting. Endgame Adrienette. Superheroes exist, but LB & CN aren't a huge part of this. Also worthy of note: #thatfoursome and a decent amount of Twitter formatting. This has pretty much everything I want in an Adrienette fic. 56k.

Chasing The C/h/atwalk - Project Runway AU. Marinette is a designer and Adrien... is her model. Shenanigans ensue. INCLUDES: Some LadyNoir, mostly after the identity reveal. #MarinetteInDenial. 100k. I love this fic.

Lucky Us - No Miraculous email AU. See Spotty Connections: LadyNoir incorporated without the actual superheroes. Fluff with a tiny bit of angst but still happy ending. 136k.

Secret Santa - fluff. Pure fluff; classic in the fandom. A bit cheesy and very outdated but very nice. Time for a reread. It has a sequel called New Year's Ball. 52k.

Être Majeur - horror, AU, fairly short, creepy and strange but really well-written. 24k. M for horror elements.

La Pucelle Et La Coccinelle - Absolute favorite. Explores Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc in this story) with the Ladybug Miraculous. INCLUDES: Actual historical references, lore for the miraculouses, and a flashforward to the future at the end with Marinette. 38k. I have it printed out, I love it so much.

Pray For the Children You Lost Along the Way - Silent Hill AU (Emilie Anderson from the arcade game is Adrien's mom). It has been on hiatus since 2019, but is still worth a read because so many things tie together in a satisfying way. 86k. Rated M b/c of Silent Hill-type things.

Under Lock and Key - Huge classic also published on Wattpad. Author/artist collab with Maerynn & EdenDaphne - Maerynn passed away while the fic was being written and ED finished it. Very nice art by ED. I view this fic as the quintessential 2017 era Adrienette fic. Very sweet and fluffy. 34k.

Tripped at Fencing - Gabriel hits Adrien. INCLUDES: Gabriel Agreste's A+ Parenting. Accidental identity reveal (Marinette finds out first). Only 5k but a classic.

The Butterfly and Her Brother series (Generations Past and Future) - written c. 2016. Gabriel is NOT Hawkmoth; Gabriel is not a villian in the least so technically OOC. First couple are set in the 1990s, then a couple in ~2016 and the latest in like 2044. I haven't read the last one in the series but WHATHGAWAATG (Europe gets taken over), featuring the next gen of Agrestes, is really good as well. Many things are outdated/false as this was written based off of s1, but I honestly like this interpretation of the Miraculous much better than how the show does it. Mama Agreste's name is Adele (again, s1) and I quite like her character. I freaking LOVE this series. I have it downloaded to my phone and I reread it when I'm feeling sad. 340k in total, but the longest work in the series is about 166k. SO many kudos.

a fight that you were born to lose - "Adrien finds out that Gabriel is Hawkmoth, and Gabriel gets to bring his long-waited plan into action." TW abuse, emotional manipulation, forced dieting. Gabriel Agreste's A+ Parenting. Fairly short for how well-rounded it is - 17k.

An Impromptu Proposal - what it says on the tin. Reverse love square kinda: Ladynoir requited love bc Adrien never went to school. Includes identity reveal and Hawkmoth!Lila takedown. 33k.

On The Prowl - Criminal CN. Also on ffn.net. Good story and TOTALLY a classic, but also uses 'ravenette' and 'sapphire orbs' unironically. The writing is okay if a little melodramatic. 53k.

Chat Noir's White French Man Hit List For Feminist Purposes - pretty much what it says on the tin. Sentimonster!Adrien. 7.8k.

i think it's time i told you (i'm a fan of your universe) - ladynoir proposal. v v nice. Just 5k. Smidge of angst.

The Ladyblog Comment Section - what it says on the tin. 27k. Hilarity and crack.

spark - Tinder AU. Lots of Marichat. Angst with a happy ending. 49k. Slow burn w/ eventual identity reveal.

all dressed up and nowhere to go - No Miraculouses modern royalty AU - human Tikki and Plagg. Mostly DJWifi but a mild amount of adrienette and a smidge of chlogami. Includes arranged marriage Adrien x Alya but they don't end up together. "Twenty-five-year-old Marinette is a wedding dress designer, business blooming in her trusty shop, Ladybug Bridal. When the engagement of Prince Adrien Agreste and Ancient Princess Alya Césaire is announced, all she expects is an influx of work. What she gets instead is... a bit different." 35k.

tangled ribbons - Ao3. ballet/dance AU (no miraculous). Adrienette with some DJWifi and human Tikki & Plagg. "Marinette is a small studio dancer who wins a scholarship to a summer long ballet intensive. Adrien is a famous ballet dancer who would rather be at home than at said intensive. The end of the summer will bring about a showcase that could make Marinette's career, if she can ignore Chloé and focus on something other than Adrien." 82k. The slowest of burns.

Where timing is kind to us - Ao3. marichat discusses quantum physics. 4.3k. This is a beautiful one-shot with a one-sided reveal.

#fic recs #miraculous fanfic #miraculous ladybug #ladynoir #marichat #adrienette #adrinette #ladrien #sunspot #miraculous fic recs #miraculous fandom #miraculous ladybug fanfiction #ladybug fanfiction #ladybug fic recs #miraculous fanfic recs #miraculous ladybug fanfiction recommendations #going back to my 14-yr-old mindset to remember these fics #ladynoir fic recs #ladynoir fanfic recs #ladynoir fanfic #marichat fic recs #marichat fanfic #marichat fanfic recs #adrienette fanfic #adrienette fic recs #adrienette fanfic recs #adrinette fanfic #adrinette fanfic recs #adrinette fic recs #ladrien fanfic

[novaneondream]

idk how I got here but going down the miraculous rabbit hole again after years of not keeping up with it since season one is so jarring but also kinda funny to me because- [warning spoilers]

BUT WHAT do you MEAN the love square REVERSED? What do you mean Adrienette is canon? What the heck is a sentimonster and what do you mean a certain character is one??? Also omg the amount of different transformation variations??? This is too muCh to digest

[aalissy]

In the Rain

A lil bit of reverse crush Adrienette for this chapter hehehe. Simply because I just could not resist ;). I hope you like it <3. Lemme know what you think!

AO3

Marinette fell in love with Adrien in the rain. He showed her kindness, his bright, soft smile warming her heart even in the midst of the torrential downpour. Their fingers had brushed as he handed her the umbrella and she felt the wonderful sensation of shivers rush up her spine. And, at that first crack of thunder as the umbrella collapsed over her head and she heard the joyful sound of his laughter, she knew he was it. That she was head over heels.

 He had left, giving her one last chuckle and a promise of tomorrow before he headed inside the car that awaited him. Marinette had been a blushing, stammering mess which had never happened to her before. 

But, honestly, it made sense. Only Adrien would have been able to make her fall for him like this. No one else ever could.

Or so she had thought. Because Marinette also realized she had fallen out of love with him in the rain. 

As the clap of thunder sounded once more, even she was unable to discern the difference between the rain and the tears on her cheeks. At that moment, she realized that it was Chat Noir, her partner, who she should have been focusing her feelings and affection on. He had stuck by her through everything. And, honestly, it seemed silly that it had taken her so long to realize this. If only she could have recognized the love in her heart sooner.

With that thought, Marinette trudged home in the rain, hoping against all hopes that she hadn’t completely destroyed all of her chances. She never should have wasted all of her feelings on a boy who so clearly loved someone else.

So when she got ready for school the next day, her mind was still swirling from her realization yesterday. She had spent so much time loving Adrien that it felt almost dizzying for her to realize that she also loved Chat Noir.

So lost in her thoughts, Marinette didn’t realize that she had bumped into someone walking up the steps to school until after she had already crashed onto the ground. 

“Sorry!” she winced, clutching her aching head. “I wasn’t looking where I was going!”

Blinking in surprise, wide blue eyes met a pair of bright, emerald green ones. Adrien grabbed onto her hand, holding it softly as he helped pick her up. Marinette had to forcibly shove the butterflies down at the sensation. 

No!

It was too late now.

“It was my fault, actually.” Adrien smiled, scratching the back of his neck. He glanced away from her. “You looked distracted but I still blocked your path because I wanted to talk to you.”

“You wanted to talk to me?” She frowned, her brow creasing.

“Mhm,” he hummed with a nod. “I wanted to make certain that you got home safe after that rainstorm last night. You’re not sick at all, are you?”

Adrien leaned into her, placing his hand over her forehead as though checking for fever. 

Too close! Too close!  

With her mind screaming at her, Marinette’s cheeks immediately turned a bright red and she scrambled back away from him.

Rapidly, she shook her head, waving her hands in front of her. “I-I’m fine! Really!”

Running a hand through her hair, she avoided his gaze and stepped around him quickly. “So fine in fact that I’m going to head to class now. Yep! See you there!”

Quickly, Marinette walked around Adrien, breathing a sigh of relief at the much-needed distance. The space didn’t stay for long though because in just a moment he was next to her, walking at the same pace. 

"I’m glad you’re alright," Adrien spoke softly. “I was worried about you walking home in that storm.” His tone was gentle and caring and she couldn’t help but flutter her eyes closed at the sound. Why did he have to confuse her like this? 

Marinette forced a smile, her mind racing to find the right words. "It, um, takes a little more than rain to knock me out."

She laughed awkwardly but Adrien didn’t seem to notice. Instead, he nodded, a thoughtful look in his eyes. "Still, I think I’d feel better if I knew you weren’t out walking alone. Maybe the next time we’re out together, I could drive you home? Does that sound alright?"

Her breath hitched and she snuck a quick glance over at the boy next to her. He was smiling, his eyes lit up with so much hope that she just... couldn’t. Clenching her eyes shut, Marinette gave a simple nod. “S-Sure. But only if it helps make you feel better.”

He positively beamed at her then, and she felt her heart give the familiar tug that only Adrien seemed to bring about. He took her hand in his, giving it a quick squeeze. “Sounds like a plan!” he said cheerily. 

Before Marinette even had the time to freak out that Adrien had just held her hand, they had reached their classroom’s door. He held it open for her with a soft grin. Marinette couldn't help but feel a pang of sadness at the situation. Adrien was everything she had once wanted, but now her heart belonged to someone else. Why now did it seem like he wanted her the way she had once wanted him?

As they entered the classroom together, Marinette couldn't shake off the feeling of longing and confusion. She was in love with Chat Noir. That was obvious now. So then why did she also still have these feelings for Adrien as well? 

With a quiet sigh, she walked up to her desk. Right now, at least, she didn’t have to think about the madness of her feelings. It was time for class and she could at least focus on her schoolwork now. Sliding into her seat and taking out her journal to take down notes, Marinette completely missed the longing look Adrien sent her way as he took his own seat.

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous #mlb #ml #fic #fanfic #adrienette #adrinette #ml fic #adrinetteapril2024 #adrienetteapril2024 #adrinetteapril #adrienetteapril #love square #reverse crush #reverse love square

[miraculous-magicalconnections]

The Rewritten Lovesquare

Okay so with my changes to the characters personality's, the lovesquare is already MASSIVELY different and I've barely written 3 chapters and I have a plan for what to do with it as the story progresses

But I have to ask, which version of the lovesqure do you like the most? Would you change it?

#miraculous: magical connections #rewrite #miraculous ladybug #miraculous rewrite #miraculous #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #miraculous: tales of ladybug & cat noir #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #lovesquare #ladynoir #marichat #ladrien #adrienette

[princess-of-the-corner]

Questions for Princess Bee au, since you said you were following but soft rewriting events in S4 and S5, if these are things that you've thought of:

How does Lila's whole 'three mom scam + lair in the catacombs' thing work? Are you ignoring it bc of how nonsensical it is? Bc like, the only way I personally can think to make that plot work at all, au or cannon, is by using that 'Lila has been a Senti the whole time who was made a long time ago with the purpose of stirring up shit and antagonizing Miraculous users and that how she's pulling everything off' idea that someone brought up a while ago.

Is the Derision prank being ignored or rewritten? I know you hate it and the episode, and Chloe being Heather Chandler levels of cruel and feared pre-Origins is not gonna be a thing in this, but the prank itself doesn't seem much worse than some of the stuff Chloe did in S1, at least to me, so im curious what you're gonna do with that

((is Kim still gonna be dumber than two turnips in a rain barrel?))

What happened with Gabriel? Are you keeping him going full bastard post-Miracle Queen, or going to go the HC route with him? If you're settled on the Wish being used by Adrienette to stop him, I'm assuming he soundly lost, no statue or being remembered as a hero for him. Is he in jail?

((Also, is Natalie just dead if Gabriel didn't get the Wish?))

If you're keeping Feligami but making it a bit healthier, are you working with them and Adrien being Sentimonsters, or is that being thrown out?

Okay so! Lotta things!

Lila may be put on a slight backburner for now. I will scrap the three moms plot, because that's just??? How the fuck does she pull that off?? As far as Canon, she was still a teen who was going down a dark path and in this AU she unfortunately didn't get help and has continued said dark path. How much she's done in the meantime is up in the air, but having her still as a con artist is probably on the table. That said, I need to hammer out her motivations and what she plans to do should she get the Miraculous because like. As petty as she is I'm not going to say she's still miffed about Marinette calling her on her shit.

Derision is.... kinda both? I have a rewrite for this anyway but short version: yes Chloé was a bully and pulled pranks. This was another prank. No, not everyone was scared of her it's still the Origins-level and the prank wasn't quite as cruel because no feelings were involved(also maybe fake spiders instead of real ones). I'm saving Kim's character by 1.) having him semi-unaware of the prank? LIke Chloé tells him they're pulling a prank and he's on board but he doesn't know what's in the box and also 2.) afterward he's like 'yeah no that one was mean' instead of 'it's just a prank bro!'. Mari was hurt by it but not Super Extremely Traumatized™, and it has nothing to do with her stalking Adrien(that was just her being a bit lovesick and she addresses it in a much healthier way another time)

Gabriel is.... a bit up in the air. I am going with his Season 4-5 self so I'm not redeeming him. I can't /quite/ figure out a way he'd win that would have Mari and Adrien resort to using the Wish to stop him without having him use the Wish first and they reverse it. So either they reverse his Wish, or Gabriel's Wish in the first place included blocking all of the other Miraculous Users from being able to use the Miraculous so they can't undo his Wish. I'll debate on what to do with this one, and we also debate on Emilie and Nathalie's fates. If they reverse the Wish then Gabriel's probably alive but in jail and the Team would spend time finding how to fix Emilie and Nathalie(probably gonna be nice and fix them). If it's just Gabe gets the Wish and blocks them from fixing it, then he's dead but Nathalie and Emilie are fixed. Sill have to debate on /how/ he manages to get the Wish because I don't want Marinette to be a fucking moron but ya know.

I am working with the Sentikids plot! But I'm adjusting a few things!!

1.) Adrien, Felix and Kagami are Special and the other Sentis aren't Sapient Beings, so there's no moral issue over how many Mari killed or Felix making tool ones like Red Moon and OUAT. With this also comes the option to free them from their Amok's control.

2.) I'm having Tomoe be a lot better. She loves Kagami, though she did have her business deals with Gabriel. She's not as much a part of the supervillain thing past 'Gabriel has the Peacock and he can snap my daughter out of existence so I will do what he asks'. She's far from perfect, but her hands are tied for a while. And even when Felix gets the Peacock, not only is she unsure of if Felix is a threat to Kagami or not, but she's also in too deep and if Gabriel goes down so does she

3.) I'm bringing Felix's whole thing down a LOT of notches. He doesn't hate all of Humanity, he just hates the few in specific who treat him and the others like tools. So in Emotion, he only kills Gabriel and Tomoe, knowing Gabriel is like Colt and assuming Tomoe is as well when he finds out Kagami is a Senti. He does realize he's wrong later when he's eavesdropping and trying to find ways to get Kagami out of her situation and sees that her mother loves her. Their romance is also more slowburn instead of immediately hooking up.

Also an overall change: Adrien knows about what's going on and we have a proper reveal goddamn it!!

#princess bee

[riceballmari]

ranking my favorite marinette pairings

okay, so, i am a HUGE multishipper. like, i greatly enjoy shipping characters with different people. since marinette has chemistry with pretty much most of the cast in some way, shape, or form, i figured i'd rank my personal favorite ships with her that i'm fond of.

5. feinette

coming at #5 we have fei and marinette! i think this is a very unique rarepair and their relationship and dynamic in the shanghai special is adorable! the only reason they're so low is because i just prefer the others with marinette. i think we really need more of them together, as they were the highlight of the entire special for me. overall, very cute, just not my favorite!

4. marigami

if you asked me to make this ranking a year or two ago, i probably would've put these two lovely gal pals higher up. but my opinion of them has changed drastically since last time so.

i think their relationship is so amazing. the "sunshine x grumpy" dynamic is always something i enjoy (hence why i love tohrin for the same reason). aside from surface level stuff, marinette really shows just how much she cares for kagami. she's her first friend, so naturally, marinette wouldn't want kagami to be left lonely with no one. and knowing marinette, she'd do everything in her power to make kagami feel comfortable and happy when they're together (see mr. pigeon 72).

at first, kagami needed time to warm up to marinette, but she really made a strong impact on her life (gee, i wonder who that reminds me of). i especially like how marinette wanted to get adrigami back together, when that probably wouldn't have even crossed s3 marinette's mind. her willingness to be there for kagami is why i love these girls so much. and kagami actually appreciating marinette's friendship is so wholesome. don't ask me about s5 i like to pretend that season doesn't exist, especially with regard to kagami and how her character was handled.

3. zoenette

first off, i just want to say, I LOVE THEM SO MUCH?? zoe's crush on marinette is so so cute and i REALLY like how they handled it in adoration. zoe's confession was so heartwarming and marinette's reaction and reassurance was wonderful.

zoe, who had practically NO ONE when she moved to paris, is automatically befriended by marinette, who didn't even know who she was and was so welcoming to her. marinette cares so much about zoe and worries for her because she doesn't want her to be a doormat to chloe and wants her to stand up for herself.

eventually, once zoe does, marinette is so proud of her and it really reminds me of the time when tohru congratulated yuki for standing up to akito, but i digress. she can see just how far zoe has come since she first arrived and her growth is everything. their relationship is built on support and trust and that's what makes their dynamic so compelling and sweet.

2. alyanette

MY BABIES. i am a sucker for the “best friends to lovers” trope and this is basically that, just without the ‘lovers’ part. they support each other so much. their level of trust is put to the test in s4 when maribug tells alya her identity. alya, in return, helps marinette out even more than she already has. marinette needed to tell someone of the burden and heavy weight that's been put on her shoulders, and i think alya is the perfect candidate.

contrary to popular belief, alya is an AMAZING friend. she's the one who gets marinette out of sticky situations and doesn't get upset easily if she slips up (see the mime). despite not knowing what marinette is up to at times, alya still puts her full trust in her because she knows that, at the end of the day, marinette will make the right decisions.

i could ramble on and on about these two, but you get my point. also, i can't be the only one who could just FEEL the tension in the air rising during their oh so very intimate scene towards the end of the reverse special. no, just me?

1. adrienette

to no one's surprise, adrienette comes crashing down in first place. i love these two SO MUCH. they care about and love one another in different ways. marinette shows her love through gift-giving and grand gestures. adrien shows his love through words of affirmation and by spending time with someone. they would go above and beyond for the other. adrien confronted AND blackmailed lila about marinette's expulsion and her treatment of her in order for marinette to come back to school. (honestly kinda reminds me of haru when he went and confronted akito about what she did to rin). marinette went to adrien's house numerous times to save him from a possible dangerous situation, i.e. oni-chan, gabriel agreste.

in oni-chan, lila sneakily made her way inside the agreste mansion and lied to nathalie about adrien needing to get some extra homework done to bring his grade up. obviously, she has an ulterior motive: to get close to adrien. marinette, hoping to prevent this, follows them. unfortunately, with no luck, she wasn't able to get inside. this does, however, showcase the lengths she's willing to go to for his safety.

another instance of this is in gabriel agreste, after chloe maliciously recorded a video of marinette and her friends talking about gabriel being a bad parent. knowing what this would do to adrien, chloe was planning on showing the video to his father to get him out of school, DESPITE the fact that chloe would never see him again (it's very telling that chloe does not care about adrien or what he wants in the slightest, and would rather fulfill her satisfaction of revenge for shits and giggles).

in contrast, marinette, despite sneaking into the mansion uninvited, comes up a plan with her friends to ensure chloe does not show the video. note that her goal was not to hurt adrien but to save him from chloe's clutches. this was not out of jealousy in the slightest. the video ends up not getting shown, much to chloe's determination, and adrien is safe, which was marinette's goal from the start.

i could list so many different instances where marinette and adrien show their tenderness for each other but we'd be here for hours. their relationship means everything to me. and as much as i love the other dynamics, adrienette work the best in canon, (again, not going to mention s5) and, unsurprisingly, complement each other really well.

#marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #adrienette #alya cesaire #alyanette #zoe lee #zoenette #kagami tsurugi #marigami #fei wu #feinette #miraculous ladybug #i somehow manage to fit fb in any miraculous discussion it seems #marinette sugar #zoe sugar #chloe salt

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*slams eighth shot of whiskey* okay listen i gotta get this out before more episodes come out, invalidating it all, but can we TALK about the adjusted dynamics of the lovesquare, stick to the end for me losing my mind about ladrien

I never read the bible so no spoilers there, but spoilers for the tfou apocalypse up through elation/exaltation

Ladynoir. The classic. The OG.

We're in a unique position with them because, Ladynoir has historically had 2 distinct dynamics: 1 when Ladybug thought Chat Noir was just flirting and he thought he had a chance, and one when she knew he loved her, and he knew she didn't.

When she was oblivious, it was flirt central! it was cute! light! fun! In the second, it was sad (we the audience knew that lb DID in fact love cn back, just, behind the mask. yakno, the classic, the og) and somewhat frustrating bc we wanted CN to chill tf out, which, eventually, he did, all the while still loving his lady

Now? NOW???? Y'all it's BOTH

Chat Noir doesn't KNOW (yet) that Ladybug is in love with him. He just thinks she's flirting, or testing him.

But Ladybug DOES know. She KNOWS he doesn't love her. When CN was in this phase, flirting to an oblivious LB, he still had hope that she would love him or at least he lived for the moments she flirted back, but NOW?? Ladybug knows!!! She knows exquisitely that CN does not love Ladybug anymore. (even though we AND LB know that he does love her, just behind the mask)

It's just such a beautiful reversal chefs kiss mwah

I basically just keep thinking of that sad look CN gave her when Glaciator was screaming about how CN should love LB, and that little comforting pet she gave him. Tears.

the other sides under the cut

Adrienette. Our cute blushing oblivious babies.

Tbh team? I'm not sure where this one will go! Don't have a lot to say about it that the show hasn't already. Adrien fell for Marinette hook line and sinker, we all saw it coming we're all just happy to be here. Marinette is afraid to love him and "no alya he's just a friend" I'm just thrilled to see where this goes

(especially now that Adrien has kissed Marinette???? AND that he knows she doesn't love him anymore??? I Am All In)

(but also we the viewers have just a little drop of sadness/frustration too in this because, like, We Know!!! we've been here the whole time!! You DUMMIES YOU LOVE EACH OTHER and this is RIDICULOUS and UNNECESSARILY TRAGIC just LKAJSD;FLKJ anyway)

Marichat. Okayokayokayokayokayokayokayokay

In Ye Olden Dayes, Marichat was the sin ship. But even before that, it was always the side of the square where there was no performance, no pretension, just two people who were friends (but didn't know how good) hanging out with lots of chemistry but no blushing.

But now WWHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO BOOI I mean the fact that marichat was the first side to consensually, of sound mind, and in the canon timeline, kiSS is bonkers to me, congrats to taylordraws for predicting the future I guess

But! Now!!!! They love each other!! If they're ever around each other again it's going to be a bluSHING NIGHTMARE especially since them being together caused Marinette to almost get akumatized, and that they both understand it can't work, there'S THAT HINT OF SADNESS r u sensing a theme

But okay, that thing I just said 20 words ago, them being a blushing nightmare, it's because this is the side that's in love with each other. Marinette < - > Chat Noir it's a two way door okay and that's what ladrien used to be and what ladrien was based on. But now we have the ladrien dynamic + sads + MORE KNOWLEDGE + EVEN MORE DRAMATIC IRONY and frankly I'm alive

Ladrien. *smashes whiskey glass on floor and screams*

FOLKS. WHEN I TELL YOU. I AM FROTHING AT THE MOUTH FOR LADRIEN CONTENT NOW MORE THAN EVER let me tell u why

I'm a longtime Ladrien stan. I just think they're neat. I just think they should kiss. A li'l smooch. The first fic I ever wrote for this fandom was a ladrien "almost kiss UST" one shot.

But now? NOW??

Ladrien is now the Marichat dynamic. Marichat and Ladrien have flipped. Before, Ladrien was the two way love street, and Marichat was the platonic "no pretenses" street. Now, Marichat has taken on Ladrien's vibe (with some extra Sadness TM), so what has Ladrien become?

You'd think, oh it's just marichat now, no pretenses, they know they don't love each other, easy, *kisses you on the mouth* NO.

Picture this. Ladrien bathroom balcony scene. Or Ladybug saves Adrien. Whatever. All the reasons the show has given us for our heroes/civilians to interact outside their partnerships. With Marichat, they're cursed by knowledge. They know they love the other, but that the other doesn't love them (or so they think). With Ladrien, there's no such curse.

For Adrien? He looks at Ladybug, the girl he used to love. Used to. Past tense. All those pictures on his phone, his silly date ideas, his puns and flirting, that's all in the past now. She made it clear she doesn't love him back, and besides, he loves someone else now. He'll always love her like a friend, of course, she's his best friend, but... anything else is too hard.

For Ladybug? She looks at Adrien. The boy she used to love. She probably still does a little bit but it's different now. How it used to be, all that flailing around, the ridiculous schemes, the presents, the obsession, that's done. He might think he loves her now, but, no, she loves someone else. Outside of the mask, she's still his friend, of course, but, how it was before? It was just too hard.

Basically: THE BIG SADS. These two are exes, they're forlorn lovers, they're each other's "one that got away." But without either of them truly knowing why, or how, or even with the benefit of a real "we were together, now we're apart." These two moved past their unrequited love for each other through sheer force of will and lack of communication and now... now what are they?

I for one am frOTHING AT THE MOUTH TO FIND OUT

#miraculous ladybug #adrienette #ladynoir #marichat #ladrien #adrinette #ml spoilers #ml exaltation #ml elation #thank u for coming to my ted talk I haven't done a piece of writing for this show in a long time #(aAND ALSO I'M PHYSICALLY RECOVERING FROM BURNOUT FOR MY PROFESSIONAL WRITING JOB) but hey #exaltation says write i fuckin write #emma.txt #* #*writing

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FIVE SEASONS. FIVE FUCKING SEASONS OF THIS STUPID LOVE TRIANGLE?? SQUARE???? WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU CALL IT?????

Why Marichat/Ladynoir/Adrienette/Love Square/Etc is shit - a submission-based essay, part 1/2

Whatever the fuck it's called - a canon (endgame?) het ship from the Miraculous Ladybug fandom between Marinette (Ladybug) Dupain-Chang and Adrien (Chat Noir) Agreste

whatever bad thing you already think about them + the fact that marinette is willingly gonna let adrien think that his abusive terrorist father was a good person and a hero and also kept the fact that adrien isn't human and that if someone got his amok he could literally die

the creators absolute loathing for teenage girls racism towards asian people inability to kill their darlings n concerning disregard for what qualifies as sexual harassment blend together to create this mess of a ship im 18 now but was like 11(?) when it first came out n seriously how the fuck is this show still on with its bullshit solid first season whatever didnt particularly care for the main couple but liked the characters enough to stick around but godddd what the fuck did they do here i havent been caught up since season 3 i think but like thinking back to the first season vs what ive read about the latest ones is something this ship ruins both characters completely involved in it n like with the way a lot of it is handled it makes me concerned for the actual children watching this show if they watch it seriously n not just have it on as background noise if this was like some teen or adult drama i wouldnt care as much but like this is a show for children stop fucking portrayaling stalking (marinette) as funny n sexual harassment (adrien) as romantic when ur target audience is 10 year olds

This ship has been run into the ground. Both characters have been made worse people by being in love with each other. Marinette/Ladybug is not very far away from becoming a yandere over Adrien (she has stalked him and tried kissing what she thought was a stature of him) and Adrien/Chat Noir acts entitled to Ladybug's love. And the series still acts like they are meant for each other. Every character has to be a Adrienette shipper (both of their exes and Marinette's friends are, for example.) Characters not in favor of the ship are the villains. And their relationship has been stagnant for so long. After 5 seasons, Marinette still can't talk normally around her crush. The few times their superhero identities got revealed, the world ended and it had to be reversed. So their relationship can't even progress in any way.

#anti love square #anti adrienette #anti marichat #idk how to tag this #propaganda #why [ship name] is shit #the (s)hit list #not a poll