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vlackevil · 1 day
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The other part
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Now we have a thread how Aang do for Katara:
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vlackevil · 1 day
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Now we have a thread how Aang do for Katara:
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vlackevil · 3 days
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Is very obviously zutara shippers are the trash and the most pathetic of the fandom, just look this loser:
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And what he say:
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And the people put this idiot in his place:
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And meanwhile zutara shippers:
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So remember, zutara shippers are the definition of pathetic and loser.
This is the description of this idiot:
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vlackevil · 4 days
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The interview with Aaron Ehasz about Aang and Katara relationship:
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“We decided to do that in symbolism and actions instead of words”
In short words, the writers have been showing Aang and Katara romance in all series with actions, not words.
Oh, and Aaron ships Sokka and Toph.
And Aaron supports Kataang with this:
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vlackevil · 5 days
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There is the other part:
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One of best 🧵 of Twitter about Kataang is showing Katara have romantic interest to Aang and the relationship never was one-sided:
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vlackevil · 5 days
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One of best 🧵 of Twitter about Kataang is showing Katara have romantic interest to Aang and the relationship never was one-sided:
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vlackevil · 6 days
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Twitter have many things very nice and good and this is one of it:
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vlackevil · 8 days
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The movie we are very waiting now is delayed:
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vlackevil · 8 days
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Another evidence about Kataang in Twitter:
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Very true:
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vlackevil · 9 days
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The writer of Cave of Two Lovers (in the podcast Braving Element with Janet and Dante), Joshua Halmiton, affirms Aang and Katara relationship is romantic and he and the others writers want developed that, and the story of two lovers was for Kataang, not for Zutara, like this idiots zutara shippers say, hear it:
I hope you like this information.
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vlackevil · 12 days
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The big difference how Katara treats Aang and Jet:
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With Aang:
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(She literally was be banished with Aang)
With Jet:
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She wans’t very intense about that.
With Aang:
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She literally was the mad girlfriend don’t allow anyone who talk bad about his boyfriend.
See? That is the big difference.
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vlackevil · 13 days
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Is not surprise zutara shippers being imbecile like always they do and people show that:
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And zutara shipper show his stupidity
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And people refute that
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vlackevil · 15 days
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One of the best told truths in Twitter:
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vlackevil · 15 days
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Hello ! I'm fairly new to the fandom: a friend of mine advised me to watch the original series before watching the live action (I'm not American and I had never heard about ATLA before that).
So I wasn't there when the fandom seemed to be torn by the ship wars, like two decades ago. I keep seeing Zutara's fans claiming that their ship was the original endgame except that there's no evidence in the show (at least with my "virgin Atla eyes") and all I can see are interviews of the creators/showrunners saying that Kataang was the endgame all along.
I guess my question is this : is there an actual interview of them entertaining the idea of Zutara at the time (even just to shipbait) ? Because I've been in several fandoms where creators/writers would do that just to keep the audience interested (*cough* Riverdale - yeah you can judge me...).
You say that Nickelodeon promoted the ship wars. In what form ?
That was a long ask. Thanks for reading me!
Okay, so here's what you need to know to fully understand that mess: back when the show was first airing, lots of zutara fans had fully convinced themselves that either the story was going to be changed to make their ship canon (because "it's more popular than Kataang") or that Zutara was TOTALLY planned to be the endgame from day one and that's why some many people liked in the first place (because "there's no way this is all in our heads" - spoiler, it was).
And this wasn't a case of fans simply disagreeing on theories about how the show was going to end - lots of people were being AWFUL to each other on fandom spaces, and the behavior was not exclusive to zutara or even just the other non-canon ships. Everyone was calling anyone who disagreed with their takes stupid and bragging ahead of time of how THEIR ship was going to be canon instead. And because the internet was not at all as inescapable as it is today and information was much harder to verify, some people were making "100% legit claims" that their parents or uncle or cousin or whoever worked on Nickelodeon and had fully confirmed Zutara would indeed be a thing.
Nickelodeon, being the shameless corporation that it is, realized that ship wars could mean A LOT of money because people would keep watching if they thought there was any chance of their ship becoming endgame. So, whenever there was an episode in which Zuko and Katara would interact, they made sure to not only include it in the promo for the episode, they'd describe it as "sharing a special moment" or "growing closer" even when that was not what was going to happen in the episode itself. They didn't do that just with Avatar either, and would spend years pulling simmilar things with the hit shows ICarly and Victorious, both of which had ship wars too. In hindsight (and even back then if we simply compare the promos to the episodes) it's obvious that Nick's promos should not have been taken seriously, but Zutara fans latched onto them as "proof" anyway (and some Nick exec laughed all the way to the bank).
But then the finale happened, Kataang and Maiko were endgame, and Zuko and Katara were never even stated to be interested in each other like that. The ship just wasn't a factor in the story - much like Kataang and Maiko fans had said it wouldn't be, because it was obvious what the writers were actually going for.
So, instead of admiting they let their enjoyment of a fanon ship get a little out of hand and that, even though they had every right to like it, it simply never had any chance of being canon and they shouldn't have insisted otherwise when the truth was so clear, they went for a different approach: just double-down on the lie that they had inside knowledge about the show's writting and production, and make up a whole conspiracy about how the lead writer and "true creator" Aaron Ehasz and everybody else had been building up to Zutara from day one, but then Bryan and Michael or "Bryke", the evil showrunners, meddled at the last second and forced them to change everything.
They also claimed there were things like a "deleted" scene in the finale, with Iroh saying Katara would be perfect for Zuko, or with a kiss between the characters, or Katara telling Aang she loved someone else, ya know, all kinds of copes. Nickelodeon made it worse by airing some "fun production facts" during re-runs, plenty of which were obviously fake - but one mentioned "Zuko was going to be Katara's original love interest" so plenty of people were willing to pretend it was all 100% legitimate. And the icing on the cake was an "interview" in which Ehasz supposedly confirmed all of the conspiracies, "proving" zutara fans had always been right about everything and it's the Kataang and Maiko fans that were lying to themselves.
Unfortunatelly for these people, pretty much EVERYONE has a social media presence nowadays, and it's really easy to not only get in contact with writers and producers of the shows we like, but to also PROVE that what you're telling everyone is indeed what that person said.
And there's tons of videos and screenshots of everyone involved in writting and producing the show saying, including the ones that like Zutara, saying KATAANG was the planned endgame from the start, and Aaron Ehasz has repeatedly said that the supposed "interview" in which he validates the zutara endgame conspiracy and "calls out" Bryke is completely fake, and he's happy MAI got to live happily ever after with Zuko.
Finally, we got access to "the series bible", aka the original plans for the show, and we got to see everything that was cut or changed: Uncle Iroh was originally going to be a twist villain that would betray Zuko, Azula was still going to be a prodigy and Ozai's favorite child but she'd be Zuko's older brother instead of his younger sister, and there was a cut love triangle between Aang, Katara... and TOPH, who was going to be a super buff dude, much like we see in Ember Island Players and in the opening sequence of every episode because yes, they had already designed that character AND started book 1 when decided "Wouldn't a blind girl that looks delicate but can wreck people's shit be more interesting than this generic guy?"
But even now that disproving this Zutara endgame conspiracy is easier than ever because we can just ask the people who made the show, some people continue insisting that all these writers and producers, again some of which DO like Zutara, are lying for no reason - or because "Bryke is forcing them to hide it all."
They're just desperately trying to save face and pretend that they didn't spend over a decade lying to themselves and their buddies, and sometimes using this conspiracy to justify bullying, threatening and doxxing people.
It's VERY sad.
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vlackevil · 15 days
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I’m sorry, I need to vent. I don’t wanna sound mean. But ZK shippers like araeph, burst-of-iridescent, linnoya writes, zutarawasrobbed, sokkastyles and the-badger-mole are some of the most toxic moronic entitled and delusional ZK shippers on tumblr, they act like they care about Katara and are just disappointed fans of Avatar, when really they’re fake fans who are just mad their fanfiction did happen, so they come up with the most rancid takes about Aang and Katara that are objectively wrong and their mindless drones eat that garbage up. These people suck and tumblr would be better if they left forever and touched some grass.
Don’t worry, i understand that, you see, all these trash people are the definition of hipocrity, they say Aang make bad things, but Zuko have made worts and zutara shippers romantizes that, they say Bryke is a liar meanwhile they make fake interviews about Aaron Ehasz and about Aang.
And even they defame Bryke as pedophiles meanwhile sexualizing zutara (minors)
But well, like Broly say: “Naturally, garbage will always remain garbage.”
Zutara shippers always have been the trash of fandom.
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vlackevil · 17 days
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It would be very good idea to see a scene or a chapter how Aang and Katara interacts before Aang’s death.
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vlackevil · 22 days
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Zutara shippers: “Aaron Ehasz was make zutara canon but evil Bryke don’t let him and the writers”
Meanwhile Aaron Ehasz about shipping:
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