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somesecretpie · 26 days

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Fans and Creators of Webtoons!

I want to talk about Line Webtoon’s new “Super Like” program and why it sucks for literally everyone.

What is a “Super Like?”

According to their website, super likes are a new way for webtoon creators to monetize their work. Readers can pay real money to buy a super like for their favorite webtoon, and the creator gets a fraction of that money.

Wait, a fraction? Not all of it?

Yep! Webtoon skims quite a chunk off the top.

30% goes to Webtoon, and then another 30% of that amount goes to the payment processor.

So what do creators get? 49 cents for every dollar their fans try to give them. Literally half.

That’s pretty ludicrous, right?

Interestingly enough, they announced that they had a “tipping system” in the works in the same email they ended the CANVAS creator rewards program (and many comic creators livelihoods)

They said tipping system in their social media posts too

Obviously this tipping system is referring to super likes right? They say they’re going to do a tipping system, and then this rolls out.

But “tips” are not something that buisinesses can just take a cut of, at least not in the United States. According to the Department of Labor, it is illegal for any amount of tips from customers to go to an employer.

Webtoon is trying to walk back this language, of course. You won’t find the word “tip” anywhere on their website page explaining how it works. But those old social media posts are still up.

This is all pretty scummy

But wait, it gets worse!

They removed the Patreon button at the end of episodes and replaced it with this:

Yep! That’s right. Webtoon really said “what if we replace the tipping system that already existed with a shittier one where you only get half of it 🥺”

Unsurprisingly, they faced a ton of backlash.

Webtoon was quick to point out that the Patreon button was only removed from the end of episodes and there was still a button on the creator’s homepage. But of course, the end of episodes is where that button matters the most.

Creators know this. Webtoon knows this.

Eventually, after days of continued complaints from creators on social media, Webtoon went on damage control mode and announced that they would be putting the Patreon button back at the end of episodes—

As of right now (May 11th, 2024) the Patreon button is still not back.

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So…Super likes are “super totally not a tip.”

But if they aren’t tips…what are they?

Well there’s a bit more to the story of what a super like actually is. After announceing the program, the app updated to reveal a new ranking category on the front page

When you click on this ranking tab, you can see that there is now both a daily and weekly ranking

If you’re a CANVAS creator, you know how difficult and seemingly random it can be to get your comic on the front page of the app—so my immediate worry was that comic creators were going to buy superlikes on their own series to get in this ranking and…

Yep, that’s already happening.

But why would webtoon even allow creators to buy superlikes for themselves? How does that make sense?

Surely goading desperate creators into buying superlikes can’t be that lucrative, can it?

No. I think there’s another, possibly even worse reason.

Fandom wars

If you’re into music, you probably are aware of how common it is for super fans to make concerted efforts to get their favorite musician to the top of the billboard charts. They coordinate over social media, stream music on loop as soon as an album drops to inflate the numbers, buy albums in bulk to increase sales, all so that they can say their fav is number one. It’s especially common among K-pop fans and swifties

This phenomena is well documented

Fans of Webtoons can be just as ravenous as K-pop, so I think Webtoon is trying to capitalize on this. They want to encourage fandom war and make money. That’s why they have this ranking. Not only can super fans brag about their favorite series topping the charts but they can wear their super like proudly on their reader profile that webtoon will be rolling out soon.

They’re just testing this super like stuff out on CANVAS right now, but once this starts up with originals? Oh. It will be a very profitable, very terrible mess.

(Oh and I mean profitable for webtoon, not creators, in case that wasn’t clear.)

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Anyway, if you’re a creator, do yourself a favor and don’t enable super likes.

If you’re a fan of a webcomic, just donate to that creators patreon or Ko-Fi to show your support. Don’t give a red cent to webtoon because they did not do any of the work to make the series you love, alright?

Also check out my webtoon haha.

#webtoon #super likes #webtoon super likes #webtoon super like #super like program #monetization #comics #comic #webcomic #Patreon #webtoon canvas #webtoon creator rewards #webtoon fans #webtoon fan #webtoon creator #artists on tumblr #weird comics

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bookrantsandsundry · 2 years

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Kartein calling Kayden ‘Pikachu’ is my new favourite thing

#eleceed fans #webtoon meme #webtoon fans #eleceed #webtoon eleceed #eleceed manhwa #kayden break #kayden and kartein #webtoon recommendation #kartein #kartein eleceed

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melanatedmedia2 · 2 months

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Top 10 Must-Read Webtoon Comics That Will Keep You Hooked All Day

Hey everyone! If you're a fan of webtoons or looking for some great recommendations, you have to check out this blog post on the top 10 webtoons! It's an amazing list full of fantastic titles that will keep you hooked for days.

I absolutely love Webtoon comics and am constantly on the lookout for new titles to explore. If you’re a fan of this webcomic platform like me, you’ll want to check out these top 10 favorites of mine. 1. Midnight Poppy Land: I absolutely adore “Midnight Poppy Land”! It’s one of the best romantic dramas I’ve read on Webtoon and holds a special place in my heart because it was my first Webtoon…

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d-llahanspade · 20 days

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They’re so fun to draw

Aiden fucked up big time and Captain Carrot Top is scolding him for it.

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all-my-ocs-are-evil · 4 months

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Fair Lady Claire

Don't you just hate it when the person you dread the thought of becoming the most visits you and goes on about how similar you two are?

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mottemort · 7 months

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WFA fan edit - Jason al Ghul

#jason todd #red hood #fanart #wayne family adventures #batman wayne family adventures #fan edit #batman #dc #jason al ghul #league of assassins #al ghul family #lazarus pit #wfa #wfa webtoon #batman wfa #dc comics fanart #sketch

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wulf59-stuff · 1 month

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When they finally get together and their trauma is still there.

#nevermore webtoon #nevermore webcomic #annabel lee webtoon #annabel lee nevermore #lenore webtoon #lenore vandernacht #lenore x annabel #white raven #lennabel #my art #fan art #sorry not sorry

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hexadonis · 1 year

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this tgcf scene reminded me of him

#orv #omniscient reader webtoon #omniscent reader #omniscient reader's viewpoint #my art #kim dokja #orv fanart #anna croft #if you’re a tgcf and orv fan pls tell me in the tags so we can kiss

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diaryofa-loser · 5 months

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im in a bit of redrawing phase so heres me going back to my roots (og comic here)

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ghostlytableteehee · 6 months

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some sbg fan art I drew 🤯🤯

#school bus graveyard #sbg (webtoon)#sbg ashlyn #sbg aiden #sbg tyler #Sbg Ben #sbg Taylor #Sbg Logan #School bus graveyard fan art #School bus graveyard webtoon

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vtory-art · 11 months

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never actually posted it anywhere but here

#joondok #kim dokja #yoo joonghyuk #omniscient reader's viewpoint #orv #orv kim dokja #orv yoo joonghyuk #omniscient reader webtoon #fan art

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mmmairon · 1 year

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do you think this doctor does house calls or….

#he may take one my kidneys but that’s a risk i’m willing to take #i swear to you something in me snapped when i saw him on screen #i was the biggest dottore slanderer when the webtoon came out #i was genuinely so mean to him i don’t even deserve to be a fan now #here is my atonement #HIS ENG VA UNDERSTOOD THR ASSIGNMENT ITS INSANE #I OPENED MY LEGS WHEN I HEARD HIS VOICE #il dottore #my art #genshin impact #genshin #dottore #dottore fanart #bruh

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bookrantsandsundry · 2 years

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Oooof these smirks

These smirks tell what it’s like to become better people around Jiwoo 😂

#eleceed fans #webtoon fans #webtoon meme #eleceed #webtoon eleceed #eleceed webtoon #webtoon recommendation #kayden #kayden break #kayden eleceed #kartein #Kartein eleceed

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blukiar · 6 months

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REPOST (cause no one saw it the 1st time for some reason...)

-The Girlies are going through their divorce arc rn ✨but don’t worry they’ll be fine 💜

Made this goofy fan art based on the 79th Nevermore ep, it’s one of my fave eps so I just HAD to make this joke!-

#nevermore webtoon #nevermore webcomic #annabel lee whitlock #lenore vandernacht #white raven #lennabel #annabel lee x lenore #fan art #BlukiaRart

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atlantis-just-drowned · 6 months

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I'm crying right now

So we have Eulalie, looking gently at a doll with a damaged eye and smiling sweetly, before saying those lines :

And right after, we have the look on Pluto's face, who is eternally trying to hide his injured eye behind his strand of hair :

Yes Pluto. You're pretty in your own way. *sobs*

#read this episode for the hundredth time and noticed this little detail #i'm really not joking when i say i almost started crying #my boy you're so cute so perfect so aaaaaaah <3333 #not a fan of the ship about them two because i don't like shipping him with anyone #but i feel like he needed to hear that line #like he needed it so so bad #pluto nevermore #nevermore webtoon #nevermore webcomic #whispers from atlantis

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afloatinships · 6 months

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So I have a theory on webtoon's Nevermore:

And it all pins back to this scene. My theory is that Annabel Lee's plan all along was just to get Lenore that new life

And I think it can all be seen right here, this scene comes right after the big reveal that there is only one new life available for all students. Annabel Lee was the only one not panicking, something that was called out by Lenore herself. Annabel Lee has been shown to be an extraordinaire liar, manipulating almost everyone in her life. She also only has one weakness: Lenore Vandernacht.

Three key scenes that indicate that:

The Physical pain on her face when she knows she has to leave Lenore for good, The Black Ribbons indicating her privately mourning Lenore's "death", and Ada's reveal of Annabel Lee's fear

Annabel Lee had to live a life without Lenore, so she knows how miserable she is whenever Lenore isn't with her. She also knows how much Lenore's mortal life genuinely sucked, compared to hers. Annabel Lee didn't exactly have the best life, however, it definitely was league's better than the hell Lenore's family put her through.

However, Lenore is selfless, so Annabel Lee could never outright just have Lenore move forward and get that new life. So she has to put up a show, create herself a chessboard with pawns and pieces. She positioned herself as the queen, one of the strongest pieces in chess. And we all know Prospero is definitely not the King in Annabel Lee's story.

In Chess, you can sacrifice a queen for a tactical advantage. So we take that into the board, and I bet Annabel Lee is 100% planning on sacrificing herself for her true king, Lenore.

With recent events in the webtoon, it has become such an engaging love story to watch. There are so many trials these two are going through and I just love the writing so much!

Anyway, sorry if this got rambling and boring, just wanted to share that thwory cause I have no one to talk to about it. Bye!

#lennabel #white raven #annabel lee whitlock #lenore vandernacht #nevermore webtoon #annabel lee nevermore #lenore nevermore #lenore x annabel lee #lenore x annabel #annabel lee x lenore #annabel x lenore #otp #fan theory

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