#tw sebaciel

[madamemaddy]

“if you don’t like sebaciel, then you shouldn’t be able to like grelle either, cause she’s a fictional murderer!”

cool ok so this is what tumblr is gonna put on my dash today.

how do i explain to some of y’all that the reason most people don’t like sebaciel is not because we can’t handle “dark themes in fiction” or whatever the fuck. it’s because y’all take a topic that is widely considered to be problematic, ethically wrong, and ILLEGAL and turn it into something to romanticized and fetishized. this might be a hot take, but i wouldn’t have such a problem with sebaciel if a majority of the people who talked about did so with the sensitivity and grace that topics such as CSA deserve. if people ACTUALLY explored the consequences and toxic nature of such a pairing would inevitably have, instead of just drawing cp of their favorite anime characters. if people didn’t talk about it like “uwu my hawt yaoi boyz teehee they’re so cute together” (this is an example of hyperbole by the way.) you say people should be more accepting of dark themes in fiction, but are YOU mature enough be talking about them like they ARE dark themes?? because to me a lot of you don’t, and treat it like a fucking twilight novel. to quote a tumblr post, “no one on fucking ao3 is vladimir nabokov.”

anyways. i don’t think liking a character who’s a fictional murderer means i have to endorse the fictional pedophilia ship.

#the media literacy is in HELL #sorry but i couldn’t not say anything #i might delete this later #putting liking grelle on the same level as liking sebaciel was the last straw for me #im nothing like y’all #jumps to the other goldfish tank #tw sebaciel #tw csa

[bezierballad]

"What I'm doing is wrong, I know it's wrong, but I'm gonna do it anyway." —The Mysterious Mr. Enter.

#kuroshitsuji #black butler #sebastian michaelis #ciel phantomhive #yeah if you genuinely have this mindset: fuck you #tw sebaciel #anti sebaciel

[locustgirl]

not to be radical or whatever, but i think that maybe calling women and queer people “pedophiles” for fanfiction is actually not the activism you think it is

#it’s almost like words have meaning #and that’s not what that means #and you’re probably harming abuse survivors #instead of protecting actual kids #tw discourse #the last of us #sebaciel #pro ship #proship #pro fiction

[icantdothistodaybruh]

#tw gore #I've lost all faith #this is as far as I'll go with this art #still kinda like it though #sebaciel #kuroshitsuji #black butler #our ciel #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #my art

[echoes-lighthouse]

I’ve been seeing an increase in DNIs that list ‘freaks dni’ and it fills me with a visceral rage every single time. This is the freaks website!!!! It’s where I learned to be myself!! Fandoms and fandom conventions were made by freaks for freaks! 

I don’t CARE if you mean weird kinks or weird ships or weird clothes or weird obsessions, that’s all what tumblr is FOR!!! This is the one place where I learned to find community as an autistic, obsessive, queer teenager and I will be GODDAMNED if you shame other people like me into thinking they’re dangerous or broken. 

-last photo pose source- 

#i know i keep saying this in different forms #but DAMN #i see 'freaks dni' like multiple times a day now #what is happening in people's heads??? #proship #tw vent #kink mention #sebaciel #(mostly for blacklists if people care) #my art #hark i say nothing #tw caps

[sy5t3merr0r]

Errrr my hands slipped and.... errr

#lmaoo #kuroshitsuji #black butler #sebaciel #tw proship #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis

[dante-redgravee]

So. There is this species of frog that lives with tarantulas, the spider protects the frog from other predators...so uh I'm gonna be that guy- Sebaciel.

I was talking to @redcurrantorchard about it and he told me to post it 🤣

#sebaciel #shitpost #tiny frog using his scary guard dog privelages #honestly tho i love this tarantula/frog mutualism #tw spiders

[vodyaniks]

Dessert!

(Sebaciel week day 3)

🔪🔪🔪Version with blood below the cut!!!🔪🔪🔪

#sebaciel week 2023 #sebaciel #sebaciel week day 3 #my art #blood #tw blood #cw blood

[plague-of-insomnia]

I ship sebaciel but I only like their dynamic, in my head I imagine an adult Ciel and I only read fanfics when Ciel is way over 18 and can decide by himself/not be manipulated. I was raped when I was 15, I could never ship something like that. But anti pro shippers never bother to see the nuance. I'm afraid if I start publicly shipping it, people will call me a pedo lol Also I think that the ones who like the age gap still can't be compared to real pedos who consume lolicon/ realistic drawings who REALLY resemble children and explicitly are in a setting of a child being molested. I see incels doing that, and the kuro fandom is mostly women.

Hi, anon. Sorry I didn’t reply yesterday. I had COVID a couple weeks ago and now have bronchitis and i just ran out of gas to formulate a response I felt this ask merited.

First of all, I’m sorry that happened to you. I hope you’ve been able to get past it enough that it doesn’t affect your daily life too badly 🫂.

Sadly, a lot of antis act as if they’re the only ones who have been victims of (sexual) abuse, and that any survivor who doesn’t behave the way they do either must be lying or “deserved” what they got— which is absolutely awful to do to anyone.

As I’m sure you’re aware, we’re not a monolith. Some survivors find rape play (whether role play or in fictional works) helps them move past their trauma because it helps them to have the control they didn’t have as victims. But others find it triggering and upsetting and not helpful at all— and that’s valid too.

I personally don’t ship sc anymore mostly because I just don’t click with Ciel in the ship the way I do with other pairings. I also personally get very very uncomfortable with some underage depictions. For example, there was a fantastic sc fan fic a few years ago that I had to stop reading. It is one of the best written works in the fandom, but it just made me so uncomfortable (it’s underage) I had to stop.

But what did I do? Did i leave the author an angry message saying I was not gonna read it? No, ofc not. I just clicked away.

So if for you, you need situations in which you feel Ciel can fully consent/is in control to feel comfortable and happy then that’s perfectly valid! There’s no one “right” way to ship anything, and you have to look out for yourself first. Because we come to fandom to have fun and escape, so no need to delve into things you don’t like or that make you uncomfortable.

Antis are incapable of seeing these kinds of nuances, or realizing that purposefully consuming content that upsets you is self harm.

Sadly, if you openly ship sc (or even aren’t absolutely against it) you may get some hate. I know I have gotten my share, and it’s *always* about Ciel, no matter how I’ve depicted other characters or what ages they are in my stories. But I’ve also gotten hate for being a fujoshi (misgendering me at that) more than once, and some of it even before I joined the fandom… for my original work.

My point is that people are gonna attack you if they’re gonna attack you…. if you’re not willing to take that risk by being public about your ship that’s valid too. I definitely get how exhausting antis can be and if you’re just wanting to stare at your blorbos for a bit you don’t wanna be fighting of negativity left and right too.

It’s a shame that antis have started using the word pedo as a word for anyone they dislike, devaluing it, but the real shame imo is that they refuse to see that actual CSEM is bad not because it’s gross or immoral but because it harms actual children, who grow up to be adults with trauma.

I think it’s very important to distinguish actual CSEM (or “fictional works” that were intentionally modeled off real CSEM) from anything that’s purely fictional. Because you can never really know why someone made something or why someone likes something.

I write about child abuse, sexual and not, a lot because I find it very therapeutic, but someone might read my works and may draw other, completely erroneous conclusions about me and my motives.

I honestly think a huge chunk of the kuro fandom is nonbinary, but I don’t really know the demographics. I’m sure they’re slightly different depending on if you’re looking at the western or eastern fandoms…

But women can be toxic just like anyone else. Some of the absolute most vile antis I’ve seen identify as female.

Ultimately, I think that the best thing to do with the fandom (or any fandom, really) is to curate your experience. Block accounts that trigger you or don’t vibe with you. Find like-minded friends to chat with in private, so you don’t have to worry about strangers hopping on what you say. Filter tags and use apps if you need to.

I think it’s a shame that antis are so vocal in the fandom and have divided it so much. As a multishipper not much into sc, I have definitely felt that fracture more than some others, since sadly too many non-sc shippers think they need to scream about how icky that ship is and be jerks when we could just ignore sc entirely and enjoy the other ships we like instead together?

But the no matter what antis claim, sc shippers have always been and will always be the column that holds the fandom up, and you either need to make peace with it or learn to ignore it.

🫶

My ask box is open for anyone who doesn’t feel comfortable being open about their love for kuro but would like to squee over it/the new series with someone who doesn’t mind listening :)

#sorry for the long ramble #i hope i made some sense #poi answers #black butler #anon #fandumb #tw csa mention #tw child abuse mention #tw rape mention #sebaciel #antis dni

[bezierballad]

IMPORTANT: If you either own or are in a Black Butler themed Discord server, PLEASE READ THIS

Please stay away from this user that goes by Winthlock (or Tsuki. They mostly go by Winthlock, but I'm assuming Tsuki is either one of their alts or a different username they go by)

They're not only a proshipper who raids Kuroshitsuji servers and posts disgusting images (specifically Sebaciel images) but also a hacker.

If they post a link, DO NOT CLICK IT otherwise they will receive your information.

I'm in a Black Butler roleplaying discord server and we just had one of our members hacked by this person

Said member also provided screenshots. (There's a LOOOOT of screenshots btw. Also TW for proshipping and some other gross stuff.)

Classic Sebaciel defender. Lovely. -_-

If you're wondering what Pink no Koneko is, a quick google search shows that it's one of those Sebaciel doujinshis. So now you have a good idea of what's probably behind that censor. 🤢🤮

And here is them posting the links that lead to accounts getting hacked. (In case you don't know, Grabify is what many hackers use to gain access to information such as a user's IP address)

One of the unfortunate victims is a friend of mine and in a mutual Black Butler server.

For those confused; the person who got hacked by Winthlock (I censored said person's name in blue) calling out Winthlock (who is both using the hacked account and trying to play innocent about the whole thing)

The "MA" user you're seeing in the above screenshot is the hacked account.

Please note the same profile picture.

Winthlock also goes by winthlock03 as you can see. (Either it's their alt username or one of their alt accs)

There's also been lots of speculation about Winthlock in general; another user (censored in pink) says that they also have some experience

Another user also states their experience (censored in green)

So if the information in the above screenshots is true, then there's a good chance that Winthlock is not only a proshipper, a hacker, but also a lowkey creep lusting for an underaged character and supporting their kid sister indulging in proshipping. (Again, this part is merely speculation, no screenshots of the comments, were provided unfortunately.)

But yeah, that's the basic gist of it.

I seriously cannot believe people are this petty. Proshipping is one thing: if you ship something disgusting like Sebaciel, fine. Whatever. No point in wasting time trying to change your mind. I'll just block you and move on with my day, simple.

But raiding servers and hacking people's accounts? That's honestly inexcusable. It's honestly abhorrent. And possibly convincing young individuals that proshipping is cool and something they should do and that there's nothing wrong with it? Absolutely degenerate behavior.

And I know there's gonna be someone saying shit among the lines of "Why are you aNTIS so worked up about a fictional ship"

This proshipper is raiding discord servers and hacking people, over a fictional ship. Just think about that for at least five seconds, please.

TL;DR if this person joins your server, please block them and ban them ASAP. Do NOT click the links they post.

#black butler #kuroshitsuji #callout post #tw proshipping #sebastian michaelis #ciel phantomhive #anti sebaciel #discord

[it-lives-within-the-dark]

The Death of Duty

Sebaciel Week 2023 - Day 7 (Eldritch)

Notes about the piece under the cut:

This was created using charcoal and watercolor in Realistic Paint Studio

I think this is my favorite piece I did for Sebaciel week. I finished this in one hyper-fixated haze of a weekend. I think it helped that it's much more "realistic" looking in terms of style, which is much more my wheelhouse

I didn't realize this when I thought of this image, at least consciously, but it ended up being a gorgeous parallel to that one panel in the Campania arc (you know which one). It wasn't until I was doing a reread of the arc a few weeks ago that I realized I'd accidentally done something brilliant

#sebacielweek2023 #sebaciel week 2023 #sebaciel #black butler #kuroshitsuji #my art #art in the dark #tw: blood

[locustgirl]

Twitter thread by @SamAburime (@rainystudios)

#tw discourse #media literacy #censorship #tw radfem #purity culture #hazbin hotel #sebaciel #tlou

[icantdothistodaybruh]

#tw gore #very slight but still?? #I can't get past the sketching stage it's like a curse #but it's either that or nothing at all #btw don't mind the extra rib it's only now that I've noticed it ugghghg #sebaciel #kuroshitsuji #black butler #our ciel #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #my art #sketch

[na-yukkuri]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Kuroshitsuji | Black Butler Rating: Mature Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Sebastian Michaelis/Ciel Phantomhive Characters: Sebastian Michaelis, Ciel Phantomhive Additional Tags: Aged-Up Character(s), Hurt/Comfort, Fluff and Angst, Pre-Relationship, They have feelings for each other, Depression, Suicide Attempt, Hopeful Ending Summary:

He keeps crying for what feels like an eternity before he takes a deep, shaky breath and muster all the confidence and strength he has left.

“I don’t want to live anymore”, Sebastian feels his own vessel freeze, a punch where his heart should be, and he stops moving his hand over Ciel’s hair altogether.

#sebaciel #sebastian michaelis #ciel phantomhive #kuroshitsuji #tw suicide attempt #i swear i will post sebaciel week's fics later

[sy5t3merr0r]

The sebciel stuff is always so funny to me because I swear these people read that Manga with blinders on. I don't even go here but ive seen those panels who are they kidding. Also isn't she a shotacon who drew doujin of prince of tennis. Like come on....

Kuroshitsuji antis be like

#anon you're so right #lmao #black butler #kuroshitsuji #sebaciel #tw proship

[cielpansyhive]

If you followed me back in 2018 I'm sure you remember one of my first works, "Demon Blood." I had a lot of fun writing it. (Maybe too much lol!) That said I could never have imagined it being the first chapter of my highest kudoed work. Had I known, I wouldn't have posted my unedited, drunk writing to AO3. 😅

Flash forward to 2023, I've been slowly revising old works to meet my current standards for my fics. I'm proud to reintroduce "Demon Blood," as it always should have been.

Read it here

Also worth mentioning, I revised another work, not as extensively, but still noticeable enough. It can be read here.

If you've already left kudos feel free to just leave a comment saying "kudos" or a heart or something. Readers old and new, thank you!💙

#tw blood #sebaciel #adult ciel #canon divergent au #smut #cielpansyhive