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fieriframes · 9 months

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[ALL RIGHT, WELCOME BACK. TREMBLING TROJANS HEAR, O'ERSPREAD WITH A DAMP SWEAT AND HOLY FEAR DANNY'S ALL-AMERICAN DINER & DAIRY BAR.]

#s13e02 coast-to-coast classics #guy fieri #guyfieri #diners drive-ins and dives #holy fear danny #trojans hear #o'erspread #damp sweat #american diner #dairy bar #right

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heartstringgs · 12 days

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'heather' by Conan Gray is a kevjean song. I'll take no corrections

#i can hear Jean's pining from so far when i hear this song #aftg #tsc #kevjean #jean moreau #kevin day #jeremy knox #jerejean #the sunshine court #tsc spoilers #all for the game #the ravens #the trojans #the foxes

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marlboroonice · 11 days

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This part makes me VIOLENTLY ILL. I need to know which home Jean’s talking about. At this point had Jean considered the relatively new safety and comfort of Jeremy, Cat, and Laila (maybe some other Trojans) to be home? Is he still referring to the Ravens nest, full of brutality, but people he loves, people he hates? Or is it Marseille, the birthplace of his pain and himself, bearing in mind everything he had just learned from Stuart?

It’s ambiguous for a reason, but it so important because it shows his character development. It tells us where Jean is at the moment. Is he still stuck with the Ravens, or even farther back in time— Yearning for France and his sister. Or is he living in the present, making a home where he’s finally got people to shelter him and keep him safe.

#tsc spoilers #when jean moreau considers the Trojans his home you won’t hear from me again #the sunshine court #jean moreau #protect Jean Moreau at all cost #nora sakavic

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norestforthereaders · 1 year

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“No sane person would ever try to climb their sheer, divinely smoothed face.”

-Patroclus, right before trying to climb the wall ten chapters later.

So now the question poses itself, along with its answer.

“Why did Patroclus try to climb the wall?”

Obvious answer: He was not sane.

But why ?

Well, firstly let us remember that he was in the midst of a killing spree; his spears were hitting each of their targets.

Had he not lost his armour, would probably not have been killed. He was about to give the greeks a long awaited victory.

Except that Achilles asked his mother to ask Zeus to make the trojans win as long as Achilles was not on the battlefield.

To all the greeks it seemed that Achilles was on the battlefield, but as we know it was Patroclus.

Patroclus was winning with Achilles’ armour.

Which leads me to believe maybe Zeus was leading his spears to make him kill the men, to bring the greek a victory by Achilles.

Patroclus, emboldened by power, decided to literally climb Troy to get Helen back.

We know Apollo was up there, waiting for him.

My guess is that Apollo saw through his disguise, and clouded his mind with his “godly powers” to make him think it was possible to actually climb.

Then, when Patroclus tried and failed twice to climb, Apollo loosened his armour and made Achilles’ armour fall off of him.

From the moment Patroclus is revealed, his luck turns. The trojans all start attacking him.

Because Achilles wasn’t actually on the battlefield.

Zeus himself didn’t see through their trickery.

But when it was revealed, Zeus was probably mad that they managed to fool even him.

So he kept his part of the bargain.

He tipped the scale in the favour of the Trojans.

And to get revenge on Patroclus and Achilles for their deceit, he made Hector kill Patroclus, knowing Achilles would kill Hector.

Zeus knew Achilles’ death would follow.

Zeus, insulted to have been fooled by mortals, led them to their deaths.

Here ends my theory. Feel free to add on :)

#tsoa #tsoa madeline miller #theory #books #patroclus #achilles #the song of achilles #patrochilles #apollon #hear me out #trojan war

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eliplague · 5 months

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Jean's interactions with people and how his relationship with Exy might affect his relationships. Thoughts?

Like... We all know how isolating and controlling the Ravens were, so it's obvious Jean's social skills might be pretty rusty. I can imagine him coming off as rude or cold to other people, but how do you guys think he interacts with his teammates inside the court now that the system he is so accustomed to is completely different?

Imagine he makes a mistake and he starts to have a panic attack, mistakes mean severe punishment in the Raven's Court and that's something that's not easy to forget at all, it's years and years of abuse and trauma, it makes me wonder what measures the members of the Trojans will take. I'm also pretty sure Jean is going to be pretty standoffish at the start, or at least pretty defensive (I'm calling it right now).

I'm very curious to hear everyone's thoughts on this, maybe someone else has already posted something on this already, so if you have tag me, I would love to read it!

#aftg #all for the game #jeremy knox #jean moreau #penny for your thoughts #i want to hear it #neil josten #andrew minyard #usc trojans

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peggy-sue-reads-a-book · 6 months

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I don’t think with Helen and Clytemnestra there was like a strong one and a pretty one at all. They were both huge and terrifying dominatrixes. The end that’s my post.

#tagamemnon #follow me to hear more about how Paris was a bratty little sub #and loved every minute #helen of troy #clytemnestra #greek mythology #the trojan war #the iliad

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theundeadmetalheadapolagia · 1 year

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When Hawkins High bars Eddie from using the drama club, Mike's the first one to suggest his basement as an alternative.

There's a lot of hemming and hawing from his parents. But surprisingly, vocal as he is about his disapproval (and boy is he vocal about it), Ted Wheeler isn't the strongest opponent against this idea.

It's Eddie.

He smiles, claps a hand on Mike's shoulder, and says, "Thanks, but as cool as you and Nancy are, no can do, Wheeler." When pressed, he vaguely alludes to the sign on their lawn in '84 in a very vague way, and won't budge on the matter. Mike is consumed with so much anger that he can't even appreciate the fact that Eddie called him cool.

It's only made worse when Eddie graciously accepts the offer to use Steve (!) Harrington's (!!) dining room table (!!!) The self-same guy who couldn't even tell a Beholder from an Aboleth before Eddie came along!

#gareth when the rest of hellfire hears about it: hey eddie can you not look a gift horse in the mouth like. for once.#eddie: y'know the trojans said the same thing?#mike wheeler #eddie munson #steddie #meanwhile that statement immolates Mikes relationship with his dad for a month

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xx0yeet-everything0xx · 1 year

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actually there was this quest once and jason and reyna ended up surfing down a volcano. rick riordan didn't tell me this but i know it's true i was there.

#it was actually so cruel for none of the books to give us any light on jason's time at camp jupiter #all the quests he's been on with reyna!!! tell me!!#in tlh he just drops the fact that he killed the trojan sea monster and then we just. never hear of it again.#i need Answers!!#JK i just need headcanons #pjo #reyna avila ramirez arellano #jason grace #jeyna #(altho i think of them being a duo as in besties.)

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sharkneto · 5 months

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I know people raved for The Song of Achilles but I don't get it. It was... Solidly fine. If the whole book could have been like the last 100 pages I'd Get It, but it was mostly Patroclus being the blandest, most passive man alive, passively in love with Achilles while Achilles was The Golden Boy. It wasn't until they got to Troy that Patroclus started to be his own character, and by that point it was too late for me to care all that much about him and their inevitable tragedy. So much potential left on the table, imo

#granted im not the most familiar with the iliad and this corner of greek stories #but as i was reading i was like ''wasnt patroclus a warrior too? didnt he do stuff in the trojan war?''#meanwhile patroclus in the book was training with chiron and achilles and avoiding any fight training like the plague #made it a... good surprise i guess when he still went out and did good battle before his demise at hector's hands #but idk if the author was going for a divine moment that he was suddenly Good At Fighting when standing in for Achilles #or a twist juxtaposition?#idk the pieces of it all didnt come together for me #didn't give the characters enough early on for me to care about them very deeply and thus their tragedy didnt hit me very hard #if anyone else has read this book and has opinions id love to hear them #always curious what other's took away from books #especially when I'm def in the critical minority for not loving this book #book club

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dayurno · 1 month

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are you going to read tsc when it comes out? and, if not: would you like your acolytes to give you the important kevin day updates or would you rather not?

oh my acolytes huh! well i don’t know :) it’s so nice of you to ask and i’m very touched actually…. nice to me 🥹…. i guess any (good) kevin updates would be nice and probably sway the balance on whether i read it or not, but at first glance i probably won’t read it unless it sparks my curiosity once it’s out and the story starts making its rounds around my circles :) i’m plenty interested in the period where jean stays with the foxes but i don’t much care for the trojans nor the proposed storyline*, though even a picky reader like yours truly can be convinced into buying a story if kevin day’s in it

*by this i don’t mean that i Dislike the process of jean healing but it’s just overall not my favorite theme and, to be frank, i don’t have much interest in reading about a normal well-adjusted team either. from my view tsc is aftg without my favorite parts (namely kevin day as a main character, the foxes’ messy dynamic, problematic and controversial side characters, neil’s narration, The Mafia, andrew in general) and while i am always and forever a ride or die for jean moreau, and i am glad he’s going to get better and be happy, a lot of my feelings for him don’t really stem from the idea that there is a softness underneath all the grit but actually and sincerely the fact that he is crazy. i Love jean because he’s horrible and scared and cruel and i don’t know if i’ll care much for him once he’s out of that state :) i meant it when i said a few months ago that i would’ve been more onboard with a story about the ravens (no matter how gruesome) or even a glimpse of jean’s pov in the nest, though of course nora sakavic should probably choose to be happy every once in a while so i wouldn’t ask her to write that

so tl;dr: you can send me good and relevant kevin updates if you want to and if they’re interesting enough i might read tsc in the future