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littlesparklight · 3 hours
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Helen sketch hgmmm
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littlesparklight · 17 hours
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Thinking of with how Paris is presented in the Iliad (hedonistic, sexualized, the emphasis on the beauty of his clothing/home) and in later works, especially the tragedies when he is mentioned (as the "exemplary" effeminate/soft eastern barbarian), and what this would mean for his character and coming to Troy.
No matter what age, but especially so if he lives almost two decades as a peasant/slave!
The predilections on display in how he's described in narrative would be present before he would have access to the riches and "supplies" as a prince. A peasant/slave wouldn't have much ability to be decorative, but that doesn't mean he'd have none (clay beads for necklaces/bracelets, at least?).
And then he comes to Troy, and it turns out he's part of a royal family.
Suddenly, he has access to so many things to be able to decorate both himself and his surroundings in ways that wouldn't be possible before.
I imagine that especially if he comes to Troy late/very shortly before/after the Judgment (depending on when one wants to put it in relation to his recognition), there are undoubtedly (many) things that might be frustrating, confusing and tiring in being royalty and having such a big family. Even if you don't have to interact with all of them, all the time! But this thing? Being able to decorate himself in so many ways he probably barely could have imagined before? How great must that not feel, how often might not that be part of what makes it all worth it? he could still express himself as himself in some ways as a peasant/slave, yes, but the resources available to him as a prince would just be staggeringly different.
Aside from a couple people that he might have/has bonded with, what wouldn't it mean, to be able to express yourself exactly as you want? It's a privilege, certainly.
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littlesparklight · 20 hours
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Watching people twist themselves into contortions worthy of an Olympic performance trying to neuter Achilles' relationships with the women either in his possession as status/sex objects, or that he wants as this, is...
Interesting, shall we say.
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littlesparklight · 21 hours
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/puts a second post in my drafts for safekeeping because I'm trying not to appear like I'm shipwarring but man
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littlesparklight · 21 hours
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born from an egg 🥚
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littlesparklight · 22 hours
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In the hymn to Demeter, Artemis and Persephone were raised together and were super closed friends. Do you have any headcanons about them? Maybe throwing in Apollo too!
I often see them as the counterpart of Apollo-Hermes-Dionysus trio!
Athena tried to get them to develop a habit of reading poems, epics etc but Artemis and Persephone always prefer to spend their time sparring together, having running contests, hiking and other activities. Though, Persephone did eventually end up having a liking for more literature.
Persephone would absolutely weave flower crowns for them! Artemis isn't too skilled at that but she helps the most in picking the flowers, and always keeps an eye out for beautiful flowers during her hunt, so that she can take them back to Persephone :)
Given how Athena has invented a few agricultural implements, I believe she would have helped both Demeter and Persephone with farming sometimes.
I think Athena often hangs out with the Muses and Apollo on Mount Parnassus, so I can definitely see Artemis and Persephone going there too. Artemis is someone who is shown to love dancing, so she would definitely enjoy the company. Spring time would be especially lively for them. But more often, it's just the three of them hanging out together, really. The dynamics would change for a while following Persephone's abduction I think, but they'd eventually find their way back to each other.
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littlesparklight · 22 hours
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Persephone picking flowers. Can't fit all her friends in one picture so I settled for Cyane, Athena and Artemis.
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littlesparklight · 22 hours
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Demeter reunited with Persephone.
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littlesparklight · 2 days
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Zetes, Kalais, Ascalaphus and Ialmenus - (all in the mid-late teenage range) in unison: Dad's watching, we're fine.
(Different fathers, though.)
Thinking about the Argo's journey again and who's going etc... (this is using my own headcanon for characters' ages):
Laertes - I am not taking my ~sixteen year old son with me, besides, this will be a good learning experience for him. Tyndareos - Oh, sure, I'll let my twin sixteen year olds go off to Iolkos and then on a journey of uncertain length and danger without me. :) There are other adults there that can look after them - and one of my sons is a son of Zeus, it's fine. Caeneus - (Has at least one, maybe two sons with him, somewhere in the older teenager-twenty year old range) Family outing! :D Telamon - Even if I could fetch my son easily from Chiron given we're relatively close, he stays there. (*there's not really any source that has Ajax training with Chiron as far as I can remember, but it makes sense so why not.)
Other things of note; is Herakles glaring daggers at Augeas on the other side of the gathering/ship until he's left behind? Do the Dioskouroi and the Apharetidai get along, still, or do they already have beef? (Grown men having issue with teenagers though...) Tydeus and Amphiaraus having a fun little vacation before the attack on Thebes in a couple years...
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littlesparklight · 2 days
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Thinking about the Argo's journey again and who's going etc... (this is using my own headcanon for characters' ages):
Laertes - I am not taking my ~sixteen year old son with me, besides, this will be a good learning experience for him. Tyndareos - Oh, sure, I'll let my twin sixteen year olds go off to Iolkos and then on a journey of uncertain length and danger without me. :) There are other adults there that can look after them - and one of my sons is a son of Zeus, it's fine. Caeneus - (Has at least one, maybe two sons with him, somewhere in the older teenager-twenty year old range) Family outing! :D Telamon - Even if I could fetch my son easily from Chiron given we're relatively close, he stays there. (*there's not really any source that has Ajax training with Chiron as far as I can remember, but it makes sense so why not.)
Other things of note; is Herakles glaring daggers at Augeas on the other side of the gathering/ship until he's left behind? Do the Dioskouroi and the Apharetidai get along, still, or do they already have beef? (Grown men having issue with teenagers though...) Tydeus and Amphiaraus having a fun little vacation before the attack on Thebes in a couple years...
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littlesparklight · 3 days
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Can't help but wondering whether the one of the immortal horses given to the Dioskouroi was already named Harpagos, or if either of them named him that.
"Yeah I'm gonna name my horse sexualized abduction, nothing weird with that!"
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littlesparklight · 4 days
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World in his arms
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littlesparklight · 4 days
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Queen of the Dead part 2, 23
I had some problems with the script and I'm still not sure about this page, but I'm gonna leave it like this for now.
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littlesparklight · 4 days
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it's not so much that a cyclops is monstrous because a one-eyed giant who eats people must be a monster; it's that anyone who does not follow your laws, your customs, your culture must be a monster.
polyphemus eats his guests not because he's a cannibal — cannibalism also being a taboo that applies to humans, and he's not human — but because he doesn't follow xenia. polyphemus says to odysseus "we don't respect zeus here," but odysseus approaches polyphemus as if polyphemus is the foreigner. he expects his customs (which serve him, a conquering hero) to take precedence, even though he is the one away from home. he's been away from home for over ten years.
because to odysseus, there's not much difference between the trojans (the city he's sacked) or the cicones (a people he raided on the way home) and polyphemus, right? except that polyphemus is able to turn the tables. he is a monster, not in the sense that he is not a human being — the trojans have not been treated as human beings — but because he can insist that his law be respected in his own home.
and it's not that odysseus can't adapt. look at how differently he approaches nausicaa, or even circe. but his perspective is what we wayfind by, and all the while odysseus, at troy and during the wanderings, is himself foreign.
and then he comes to phaeacia and weeps over songs of war. and then he comes home and doesn't recognize it. and then divine intervention both hides him from and reveals him to his son and wife. and then he has to conquer his own homeland. and then the poem ends, abrupt and final journey spoken of but unresolved. and each of these things makes his perspective strange to himself, and by extension to us. it is exactly at the moment odysseus comes home that he believes himself to be lost, foreign, for good.
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littlesparklight · 5 days
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Thinking vaguely on how, in most of our oldest surviving sources that mention it, the mythic/heroic era was Always Going To End.
And it is EITHER by "non-glorious", indiscriminate death and destruction via natural disasters (meaning, men, women and children generally), OR by "glorious", discriminate death through war (so, mostly men only die).
So regardless of if the Judgment happened or not, regardless of if Zeus or Paris was the judge - something would happen so that the last generation(s) of mortals during the heroic era (that is "our" characters in the Iliad and the Odyssey) wouldn't be living easy, peaceful lives.
If love and pity hadn't saved Paris as an infant and he had died in the wilderness (or at his parents'/a servant's hands), and he hadn't even been alive to stand as judge, it doesn't matter. If Eris (either planned via Zeus or at her own loose cannon initiative) hadn't tossed the golden apple at all, it doesn't matter.
War, or storms and other natural disasters; there'd be wide-spread death and suffering either way.
Just in a somewhat different way, and course some less amount of separation compared to the Achaeans leaving lands and homes for war.
If you take Works and Days, the "big" name characters at this time would be getting to Elysium either way, and generally alive, too. And they'd do so either before, during or at the latest at the end, of the natural disasters course of events, much as they do (mostly dead lol) in the "canon", war course of events. Just in a slow, terrifying attrition as they all try to survive through the land and weather turning against them...
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littlesparklight · 5 days
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Clicking on posts containing filtered words or tags is the mind killer.
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littlesparklight · 5 days
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Apollo (and 2-day-old hermes) doodle
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