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moplopbool · 6 months
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Priam & and the princes of Troy!
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littlesparklight · 5 days
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Two different images in red figure imitation art for the same story beat; the return of Paris!
These are each heavily inspired by/based on a vase painting that I wanted to show, but I'm pretty sure I couldn't just go reposting them so; The upper art, that I made to reflect somewhat how Paris' return goes in my own fic 'verse (hence Paris' age), is based on this vase 203903 in the Beazley Archive. I've cut out two women reacting to the scene to the left of Priam (sisters?), and an old man with a phiale to the right of Artemis. To note, though, in Beazley the figure I made Artemis in my image is just identified as "woman with bow", Given several factors (she's present in the "protective deity" role in a vase of Menelaos and Paris' duel, Paris is a youth in this art and technically under her protection, she is Trojan aligned in the war) I think it makes sense that it might just straight up be Artemis, and that's why I chose to make her so.
The lower art I made to match the standard funeral games account, hence the altar and cult statue, and it's based on this vase 204407 in the Beazley Archive. I again cut out one of the two female figures to the left of Priam again, and turned the other one into Deiphobos. ;) I also am very much assuming that the figure to the right of Paris could be Hektor; in the vase art the whole upper part of this figure is lost, so we don't know if they were even male or female.
Please go check the vase arts out on the site! They're really neat and you totally should go see them. https://www. carc.ox.ac.uk/xdb/ASP/dataSearch.asp Just put the numbers I included in the "vase number" field and it'll give you the right ones.
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quill-is-brainstorming · 11 months
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I was supposed to do homework but I think Pinterest just gave me the greatest fucking assist of all time.
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kukoshka · 2 years
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Lyrics from ‘Cassandra’ by Florence + The Machine
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ente-lab · 5 months
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iroissleepdeprived · 2 months
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Hmm.... What if....
What if Andromache, Hector, and Scamandrius....
hmmm
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idamante · 4 months
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hi hi i'm chewing on your trojan royal family hcs i'm in love with them
THANKS the proper way to think about the Trojan Royal Family is generational trauma + the first sacking of Troy + priam and his big litter of kids + dysfunctional family = you'll be as insane as I am
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cr8zygoodshot · 2 years
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Callirhoë. Naiad. Daughter of the river god Xanthos, wife to the Dardanian*(1) king Tros, and mother of Ilus, Assaracus, Ganymede, and Cleopatra*(2)
*(1)the dardanian thing I’m not too sure about. It’s kinda confusing as to what their kingdom would be called, but it wasn’t Troy. Callirhoë’s son Ilus would be the founder of Troy, so there kingdom was its predecessor.
*(2)she had at least one daughter, named either Cleopatra or Cleomestra. They could possibly both be her daughters, but I guess it wasn’t documented very well
I tried to base her look on Greek paintings of Naiads, but most were pictured naked. Since they lived at the base of Mt Ida, they were located in Turkey. I looked up traditional art of Turkish womens clothing, but didn’t end up finding a suitable fit. The eyes and markings were just for fun.
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dhart4214 · 5 months
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USC FOOTBALL: Our 2023 Season Wrap-Up
USC’s captains, including Caleb Williams (#13), getting ready to head to mid field to toss the coin before a game. Photo courtesy of twitter.com (Yes this is a bit early, being that USC will be playing in the Holiday Bowl on December 27th. But so what?) UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TROJANS FOOTBALL – 2023 SEASON Record: 7-5, 5-4 and tied for fourth in the Pac-12 Conference Lost five of…
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in middle school during my Intense Greek Mythology Phase, Artemis was, as you can likely guess, my best girl. Iphigenia was my OTHER best girl. Yes at the same time.
The story of Iphigenia always gets to me when it's not presented as a story of Artemis being capricious and having arbitrary rules about where you can and can't hunt, but instead, making a point about war.
Artemis was, among other things--patron of hunting, wild places, the moon, singlehood--the protector of young girls. That's a really important aspect she was worshipped as: she protected girls and young women. But she was the one who demanded Agamemnon sacrifice his daughter in order for his fleet to be able to sail on for Troy.
There's no contradiction, though, when it's framed as, Artemis making Agamemnon face what he’s doing to the women and children of Troy. His children are not in danger. His son will not be thrown off the ramparts, his daughters will not be taken captive as sex slaves and dragged off to foreign lands, his wife will not have to watch her husband and brothers and children killed. Yet this is what he’s sailing off to Troy to inevitably do. That’s what happens in war. He’s going to go kill other people’s daughters; can he stand to do that to his own? As long as the answer is no—he can kill other people’s children, but not his own—he can’t sail off to war.
Which casts Artemis is a fascinating light, compared to the other gods of the Trojan War. The Trojan War is really a squabble of pride and insults within the Olympian family; Eris decided to cause problems on purpose, leaving Aphrodite smug and Hera and Athena snubbed, and all of this was kinda Zeus’s fault in the first place for not being able to keep it in his pants. And out of this fight mortal men were their game pieces and mortal cities their prizes in restoring their pride. And if hundreds of people die and hundred more lives are ruined, well, that’s what happens when gods fight. Mortals pay the price for gods’ whims and the gods move on in time and the mortals don’t and that’s how it is.
And women especially—Zeus wanted Leda, so he took her. Paris wanted Helen, so he took her. There’s a reason “the Trojan women” even since ancient times were the emblems of victims of a war they never wanted, never asked for, and never had a say in choosing, but was brought down on their heads anyway.
Artemis, in the way of gods, is still acting through human proxies. But it seems notable to me to cast her as the one god to look at the destruction the war is about to wreak on people, and challenge Agamemnon: are you ready to kill innocents? Kill children? Destroy families, leave grieving wives and mothers? Are you? Prove it.
It reminds me of that idea about nuclear codes, the concept of implanting the key in the heart of one of the Oval Office staffers who holds the briefcase, so the president would have to stab a man with a knife to get the key to launch the nukes. “That’s horrible!,” it’s said the response was. “If he had to do that, he might never press the button!” And it’s interesting to see Artemis offering Agamemnon the same choice. You want to burn Troy? Kill your own daughter first. Show me you understand what it means that you’re about to do.
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aphemera · 1 month
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everyone’s reaction to the kate middleton disappearance is exactly how i imagined the people of sparta reacting to helen’s kidnapping
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notacluedo · 1 year
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Doodle of Achilles and Ajax playing dice based on this black figure vase painting by Exekias
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littlesparklight · 30 days
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Thinking of with how Paris is presented in the Iliad (hedonistic, sexualized, the emphasis on the beauty of his clothing/home) and in later works, especially the tragedies when he is mentioned (as the "exemplary" effeminate/soft eastern barbarian), and what this would mean for his character and coming to Troy.
No matter what age, but especially so if he lives almost two decades as a peasant/slave!
The predilections on display in how he's described in narrative would be present before he would have access to the riches and "supplies" as a prince. A peasant/slave wouldn't have much ability to be decorative, but that doesn't mean he'd have none (clay beads for necklaces/bracelets, at least?).
And then he comes to Troy, and it turns out he's part of a royal family.
Suddenly, he has access to so many things to be able to decorate both himself and his surroundings in ways that wouldn't be possible before.
I imagine that especially if he comes to Troy late/very shortly before/after the Judgment (depending on when one wants to put it in relation to his recognition), there are undoubtedly (many) things that might be frustrating, confusing and tiring in being royalty and having such a big family. Even if you don't have to interact with all of them, all the time! But this thing? Being able to decorate himself in so many ways he probably barely could have imagined before? How great must that not feel, how often might not that be part of what makes it all worth it? he could still express himself as himself in some ways as a peasant/slave, yes, but the resources available to him as a prince would just be staggeringly different.
Aside from a couple people that he might have/has bonded with, what wouldn't it mean, to be able to express yourself exactly as you want? It's a privilege, certainly.
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It just accured to me I haven't drawn anything in a while, so here's an Aeneas together with his little Ascanius/Iulus/Whydoesthischildhavesomanynames
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I wanted to try out some new brushes and I'd say I'm pretty happy with the results! :D
(Plus a watermark I threw together in like 2 seconds lmao)
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nikoisme · 1 month
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thinking about a conversation i had in computer class not long ago
Me, not looking up from my pc: so hector knew he would die.
My professor, also not looking up from his pc: He said that he would rather die than watch his wife be taken away as a slave, didn't he? So maybe it's a kindness, his death, not watching his family murdered and enslaved.
Me, immediately looking up from my pc: oh my god.
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jeanmoreauss · 13 days
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honestly the implication with what we know of Jeremy's home life thus far that not only is his personality not an act but that he actively chooses to be good despite being in a family where he goes out of his way to avoid his brother because the two can't see each other without conflict, where his sister won't attend his games and is mad at him for sticking with exy, and he still chooses to pursue the things he loves and do good things and be the kindest person he can be despite not being perfect and living in a house full people who seem to hate it is just such a wonderful part of his character
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