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theriverbeyond · 4 months

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have you seen any breakdown of the political situation on New Rho (in New Rho? is the rest of the planet also populated? I think at one point someone says "down in Ur" but maybe there is an application of 2-dimensional direction terms to 3d space I havent yet thought of). Like who do they mean by militia, who is the government (who is the police?), is there any official house presence, what is the status of the barracks, who manned the spaceport, what power does BoE hold and how are they viewed in the population (Hot Sauce denounces them but who is her faction-that Pyrrha saw her with-then?) and do they know how splintered and farspread it is? what is the siege the blurb is speaking of, just the imperial emissaries showing up?

Also assuming the BoE wings are all named after different planetary settlements which seem in turn to be named after cities in the ancient near east (ur, merv, ctesiphon), why isnt new rho? but i might be misinterpreting this.

Also where does the Empire want non-House humanity to end up? They seem to be turning planets left and right with no endgoal. And how many settled planets might there be?

Sorry I'm dumping this all at you, I havent seen any worldbuilding discussion here on tumblr at all really so maybe you can redirect me somewhere.

Thankies, keep up the good work (posting)

I HAVE seen posts about the political situation on New Rho including analysis posts that were very interesting and I have utterly failed to tag them appropriately, I am sorry -- if anyone who sees this has links to that meta pls add on/reply to help anon!

But to cover the rest of your points:

What is Ur?

Ur is mentioned twice that i can find, in ch 16: Ianthe says that the end has come to the "rebels of Ur", and a person in the crowd says "Ur is fighting".

EDIT: big thank you to @eskildit in replies: "There are four total references to Ur- Corona also says that Judith is in the Ur facility and Kiriona says that the 6th house is "parked outside the Ur system". Could be that Ur is the planet New Rho is located on. While we refer the nine houses as planets, canonically the houses are actually "installations" on each planet with quite small populations. New Rho alone, which is specifically stated to be just one city on a resettled planet, is 3x the size of the 6th house"

It may have been mentioned more times, but Kindle search is giving me the 2,320 times the letters "ur" were used next to each other so I'm ngl I cannot sift through that. Rather than being a city, though, I actually am assuming that Ur is another planet entirely! This is due to multi-planet SciFi in general treating entire planets like countries or even big cities. Like…. planets are huge. There are thousands of different cultures on a planet, but in SciFi planets are often like. One Big City. One Big Country, if you have a particularly ambitious worldbuilder. See: Star Wars, the Nine Houses themselves, etc. not saying that Ur cannot be on New Rho, just that I don't think it is because this is multi-planet Sci Fi.

The militia/civic government?

In chapter 6 a distinction is made between "the militia and the old civic govnerment". Following that, I think the civic government was probably installed by the Houses, as a ruling party that is friendly to them/House interests. I think the militia is a non-unified population of hired guns, that probably revolted at some point priot to the story. It does seem like at least some section of the militia is in power in most of the city, but I do not think there is one coherent government at the moment

Official house presence?

Yes, because there are official cohort barracks. I don't think they have much political leverage by the time NtN rolls around, though

Barrack status?

Under siege due to the people of New Rho hating them/political instability/possible militia revolt, doing badly otherwise because any and all necromancers are suffering from Blue Madness/RB proximity, as seen in ch 20 when Ianthe mentioned some of them were so poorly she had to put them down.

Space port?

I am assuming the civic government/House was originally in charge. unsure of who is in charge during NtN

What power does BOE hold?

Unclear. It seems like BOE itself is fractionated, with a lot of animosity held between different factions, and a lot of both animosity AND collaboration between different factions of BOE, the militia, the population, and the old civic government. It is a very decentralized resistance force, despite sharing a name. BOE do not appear to BE the official government, or BE the militia, though, but I would not be surprised if some groups had ties to one or both. It seems like they have influence both socially and politically but it is unclear what that power is... some factions have some amount of power. Over some parts. But!! it seems that during the events of NtN they had more power than in the past ("best hand they were ever delt", chapter 1)

How is BOE viewed by the population?

My guess is they have mixed reviews. I think a lot of people probably rely on them for resources/protection even if they don't like or fully trust them. I think a lot of people probably see them as extremists and wish they were less extreme (the liberals, u could say). Like Hot Sauce and the gang, a lot of people probably think they aren't radical enough and wish they would resist more, harder, differently. I think a lot of people probably deeply support them, either physically by being part of BOE or by providing resources/etc, or quietly because they are afraid of retaliation by the House or civil government. A lot of the population probably has opinions about BOE versus the militia, BOE verus House, BOE versus the civic government, based on their own interests/position/power. This is a really long answer that can boil down to "idk"

What is the siege?

I think the siege is the cohort being sieged into the barracks. I am guessing there was some sort of revolt in the local government, probably related to Blue Madness weakening the cohort, and they have pushed the cohort into the barracks. , as described in chapters 1 ("the cohort dies like anyone else under seige") and chapter 20 ("the barracks siege").

What group is Hot Sauce in if she denounced BOE?

Hot Sauce specifically calls BOE "fat cats" and "zombie lovers" in chapter 15, after noting that she, Honesty, and Born in the Morning, as well as Born in the Morning's father, are "active" in with an unnamed group at the park. It is unclear what group that is, if it has a name, or if it is organized in any capacity. From what little we know, it appears it is a group of people who are more radical than BOE, which I think is either ex-BOE members that were pushed out for their radial choices/beliefs, or civilians/other freedom fighters that aren't satisfied with what BOE is doing. But beyond that I have no idea

BOE wing names vs New Rho?

So BOE wings are named after historic Earth cities. Ctesiphon, Troia, Merv, Valencia (which is not historic to us, as it exists today, but WOULD be history in 10k years). They are named by BOE, likely to keep connection to Earth, just like BOE people-names. "New Rho", on the other hand, is likely named by the House. Rhodes is a place on the 7th house (see: 7th cavalier is the "Knight of Rhodes"), and I assumed that New Rho was like. The house naming shit. Like how New York is named after York in England, even though that area of land already had a name (Lenapehoking, I think?).

Specifically this difference is important because like, the House is a imperial colonizing force here, and they are naming things after their home system as a part of the imperial violence they are enacting. In As Yet Unsent, Judith notes that the non-house people call New Rho, "Lemuria" -- HOWEVER, in NtN chapter 17, the Angel mentions Lemuria twice in a way that is phrased like Lemuria is Somewhere else, and is Not the city they are in right now ("I was born on Lemuria", "there's still a facility on Lemuria") I am not sure what happened there, honestly. Perhaps an oopsie?

Where does the Empire want non house humanity to end up?

Unclear. Coronabeth notes in As Yet Unsent that even she (who has studied the war in-universe) has no idea what the real goal is. My guess is nowhere, because a forever-war has no end goal. It's a war for resources gained only by literal blood and death. Many analysis could be made about this as an allegory to to oil based forever-wars of today -- I read a few of them and as said before unfortunately failed to tag them, so if anyone has a link and can share with anon that would be awesome! But anyway, I do not think I am smart or learned enough to say a lot beyond this but, yeah. I think there is no end goal to the war besides meaningless revenge and the resources gained via murder, because that's the point. We could learn different in AtN tho! who knows

How many settled planets?

No idea! Thousands. Hundreds of thousands? Hundreds? Unsure! 10k years is a long time, and there are a lot of planets out there in the fantasy universe that could be habitable. EDIT ty @eskildit, unclear how many planets were settled over the course of the Empire, but there are three settled planets by the timeline of NtN: ""Everyone was crammed on one of three planets now, and they all agreed that this planet was easily the worst", from chapter 2

Thanks for sending this!! I really enjoyed answering it, and I hope it helped -- sorry if I missed any. Ask more any time!!

#new rho #nona the ninth #HOPE I DIDNT MISS ANYTHING #TLT META #the locked tomb #this took like 2 hours BUT i was smart and typed it in a google doc so i didn't have #a situation where i misclicked and lost it all. i have LEARNED #tlt thoughts #anon #ask #long post #yayyy

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derseprinceoftbd · 3 months

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Okay listen up buckafucks I am about to start discourse that definitely does not already exist:

Silas Octakiseron, again, despite being a giant prick, did and said nothing wrong.

Was he overly suspicious? No, because how could you be overly suspicious. Like (oh so that's how that works), he was getting all his information from *Teacher*, who I am now realizing was Doc Fucking Scratch, and there were murderers on the lose, who the fuck would trust people!?

The same goes for Colum; Teacher told him not to, and his reasoning was known to be bullshit by that point, being a fucking Lich and all, why the fuck would he continue playing by that man's rules?

TL;DR Silas is genuinely #4 on my Missed List, beating out Isaac and Abigail, and only falling under Palamedis, Magnus, and poor, poor Jeannemary.

#gideon the ninth #the locked tomb #gideon the ninth discourse #locked tomb discourse #the locked tomb discourse #tlt discourse #silas octakiseron #teacher tlt #teacher #colum asht #palamedes sextus #palamedes the sixth #jeannemary chatur #magnus quinn #doc scratch

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teslasushanka · 4 months

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wow i love tombsonas! tombsonas:

THANK YOU @mercedes-benzgle FOR SITTING AND WATCHING ME MAKE THIS.

and to tlt fans a goodnight

#tombsonas #tombsona #the living tombstone #tlt #lemmingcorp #hugs4tabi #teslasushanka #tesla tlt #rust tlt #armstrong tlt #zero one #zero one tlt #doc tlt

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notedchampagne · 9 months

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everytime someone mentions an au concept of some sort i always go "OH YEAH I LOVE WHEN-" and then i have to STOP because i remembered i only spoke about 30,000,000 words of this au with one friend and that the other little people in my phone unfortunately do not intrinsically know the deep lore as i think of it live in my brain

#YOU KNOW. WHO YOU ARE.#i was thinking of drawing tlt pirate au and then i got so fucking mad that i couldnt just post pictures and go #hi its the scene from you know when :) you know after the prison breakout drowning we didnt start the fire <=absolutely BATSHIT contextless #i need to have an extensive filed and linked google doc for every au i do not write a 1000000 word fic for with my bare hands.#to compensate so that everyone will know my beautiful vision. anyway its almost midnight and i had 4 hours of sleep thats why im like this #chat

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cage-cat-yt · 9 months

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Art for you yippee 🎉

I really like these and am very happy with myself with them! I do realize I messed up one Spamton drawing tho 😭 also I couldn't fit Eda, Venonat, Goomy, Hunter, Dipper, or Mabel into the tags but they're there for people who care! Image description in Alt text as per usual!

Anyway, thanks for reading! Remember to hydrate and I hope you have a good day :)

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zer0-0nez · 9 months

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Give us a little info about your top 3 tombsonas!!

I LOVE talking about these guys they’re so cool :3 anyways MY FAVS r zero_one, rust and tesla!!!

ive always like said to friends that tesla and zero_one can’t swim because 1, tesla has all the electrical currents keeping them alive (tbh they’re probably waterproof but still they r prob careful and avoid water LOL) and zero_one is like digital/i feel like they just don’t know how to swim LMAO

armstrong probably never swims either for obvious reasons🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

actually i feel like none of them swim at all LMAO anti swimming tombsona truther

i feel like tesla and 0_1 are bffs and like totally nerds together!! they definitely like nerd out together on stuff like math, physics, and science LMAOO

rust would totally just leave whenever without any warning LMAO theyll just leave the tombsona house (LMFAOO??) for like weeks but like randomly show back up again 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

ALSO people should totally talk about how zero_one can kinda shapeshift more because it is SO COOL!!! like they had the computer head in scaring doc, and the LASER CANON HAND THING!!!!! it’s so cool and ppl should talk about it more!!!!

ALSO ALSO it’s almost 01s birthday!!! (august 20th, unless u go by the album release date, september 4th for their bday) so yay!! happy early bday to my fav character ever!!!!!!

and it’s my bday today!!! august 18th!!! 🎂🎉

i could totally rant about them all for wayyy longer, but i couldnt rlly organize my thoughts correctly 😓😓😓

TYSM FOR ASKING!!! :3

#the living tombstone #zero_one #tombsonas #tlt #zero onetlt #zero_one tlt #rust tlt #armstrong tlt #tesla tlt #doc tlt #geist tlt #i should post more rants like this this was fun

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acehello · 10 months

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THEY ARE IN LOVE IDC ‼️‼️‼️ tesdoc because I love them

#artwork #tesla tlt #the living tombstone #tombsona #the living tombstone tesla #doc tlt #the living tombstone doc #tesdoc #gay #gaymfs #i love them #RAHHH #doodles #sketchbook #sketches #pen sketch

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that-gay-guy-from-hell · 1 year

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I keep forgetting to post these here lmao The top is of my Tombsona character, Prometheus, and the lower is of Primal Doc.

So in my AU document, I talk about how Primal Tombsonas have to eat. They mostly consume plants and bugs, but they can and sometimes do eat meat. The way they do this is through a "jaw" (closer to an insect's jaws rather than a mammal's) that is tucked up underneath their heads. When they eat, it is typically messy and rather time-consuming (no pun intended) so they typically have to spend quite a decent chunk of time grooming/cleaning afterwards--normally in streams, lakes, or other freshwater bodies. Fine needle-like teeth line both the upper and lower parts of their "mouths" along with their throats. Essentially it is a living sink garbage disposal, if that makes more sense. Always remember and never forget: Despite how cute and nice they may be, Primals are still highly dangerous!

I just drew this cause I wanted to make something cute-ish after the bloody one above; even though I love drawing bloody stuff lmao. Also, I can't draw birds lmao

I don't think I posted this here either. This was the first time I had drawn a primal in a while and I re-designed them slightly. Primal's will be much sharper and look less "Cutesy" and more "realistic" lmao

#the living tombstone #tlt #tombsona #tombsona oc #fan character #fan art #original character #digital art #primal tombsona #headcanon #minor gore #Doc #tlt doc #primal doc #primal tombsona oc #prometheus

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lilliankillthisman · 8 months

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Well! The Unwanted Guest was a very good read, in a brand new style, and provoked a lot of thoughts. You can find it here.

#i'll make posts with my thoughts once i've uh #thought them #tlt #the unwanted guest #edited with the doc link

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lunethwrites · 11 months

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Gonna file these under "Things I would definitely make into a full comic if I had that kind of time and motivation."

(If anyone is wondering where Armstrong is they are watching Rust with concern, just off-screen.)

Image ID under cut:

[Image ID 1: A drawing of zero_one the tombsona from The Living Tombstone. They are sitting hunched over in a metal chair with wires connecting into them. Some of the wires are glowing orange. zero_one's own circuits and hair is dark. Behind them, electronics are glowing in the walls.]

[Image ID 2: Rust, a tombsona from The Living Tombstone, is standing unsteadily behind a pile of burning wreckage. One arm hangs limp with a wound in the shoulder, the other arm is raised with the middle finger sticking up. In the background is a grey building on one side, and a forest in the other. The sky is clear, aside from smoke from the fire. Rust's motorcycle can be seen fallen over among the wreckage. Green bloody footprints are seen coming from Rust, indicating it had walked out of the wreckage. Rust is yelling at someone off screen. Dialogue bubble 1: The fuck are you looking at?? The FUCK are you LOOKING AT?! Dialogue bubble 2: You think I'm done?? Come at me, bastards! Right here right fucking now let's go!!]

[Image ID 3: There is a darkened room with large computer electronics on either side. A doorway is in the back. Doc is standing to the right, hands raised in a casual manner. Tesla is behind and to the left, crouching by one of the machines, one hand pressed to the machines. Pink lightning is coming from its hand, which is spreading across the machines. Doc is speaking. Dialogue 1: Now, you all strike me as reasonable people...]

#tlt #the living tombstone #tombsonas #doc tlt #tesla tlt #rust tlt #zero_one tlt

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lady-harrowhark · 1 year

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i just need everyone who has ever seen one of my meta posts and left a flattering tag or comment saying how smart i am to know one thing, which is that i have literally just now had the realization that ortus is not, in fact, harrow's cousin.

where did i get this idea? unclear. my only guess is that i conflated sister glaurica with one of the great aunts early on in my first read and extrapolated from there.

if i can fuck up like that and still convince people that i know what's going on, you can too!

#i am willing to tell you my fuckup. but NOT how long i just spent searching through the ebooks for confirmation #bruh i literally have a (self indulgent) fic (that will never see the light of day) that references her living with her aunt and cousin 💀#i was SO SURE #never even questioned it #it's been over a YEAR AND A HALF #like. girl. you have a 25 page 13k word document outlining your megatheorem for the series #AND YOU NEVER NOTICED A COMPLETE LACK OF SUPPORT FOR THIS CLAIM?#no! i did not! it didn't come up and it didn't conflict with anything in the megatheorem doc!#everyone can throw tomatoes at me now #tlt

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