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gummi-ships · 10 months
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bonefall · 23 days
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So, your Clear Sky post is absolutely horrifying, but it was very needed, so thank you. What are your general thoughts on tackling his abuse for the AU? Like you've said, pretending he's a good guy is not the way to go, but are you planning on toning down *some* of the situations, just to give some of the cats a break? Clear Sky is a very realistic depiction of abusers, but that seems to come across even without victim number 25, yknow? I'm very curious about how you'd like to go about this.
My most recent big change was bringing Slash back into the fold, because I realized that it was actually a disservice to not address where DOTC's themes dip into Colonialism. It's a hard topic, and I'm still trying to work out the details, but I realized it was important.
With how BB!DOTC is such a MASSIVE overhaul, to properly address abuse and the ways it impacts you, ableism and its violence, and xenophobia broadly, a huge reworking of Slash belonged here too. He's one of the greatest examples of how badly WC demonizes non-Clanborn cats. I shouldn't dance around it.
That's what I need to do with Skystar.
MANY of his victims have happier endings than canon, though. Bumble is one of the most famous, bumped up into a major character and directly responsible for the formation of ThunderClan. Bright Storm is taking most of Gray Wing's roles. Birch and Alder are getting examined, with either a father who wants his kids back or Milkweed as the mate of Misty.
A lot of people will die because of him, even more will be hurt, but I see BB!DOTC as a story about victims and survivors.
Others might grab POVs here and there, but as a response to canon which I feel is Clear Sky's story told in many parts, I center this rewrite around Thunder Storm. The path of kindness he marches down, with love and with anger, and the people he helps.
So BB!Star Flower...
Previously I was playing her as ENTIRELY just manipulating Clear Sky. She was loyal to One Eye and trying to get at Skystar to bleed him dry for 8 lives to sacrifice; but connected to Thunderstar over recognizing him as a victim who deserves her idea of justice. So, she offers Thunderstar the final kill, so her father will be grateful to him and he'll get power AND the death of his abuser.
(When Thunderstar looks upon Skystar, pathetic and neutralized down to one life, he thinks about the collateral damage that will descend upon the forest if he accepts the deal. He decides that he has found the line between Justice and Justification. Of course he wants the power to make his enemies cower, protect his people, and eliminate Clear Sky so he never threatens them again; that's not the problem.
He can still do these things. He wouldn't NEED the power of a war god to do so.
But if One Eye returns, he will be endlessly hungry, ruthlessly dedicated to revenge, and set out to devour the whole forest. Everything would get worse, and even more people he loves would die. It's where his desire to destroy a monster would lead to him BECOMING one.)
Even on its face, it was previously missing an element. There's a step between "Starf decides to bring One Eye back" and "Starf offers Thunderstar the final kill" that was bare. This is the piece that was missing-- That she, herself, is trying to reach out to the only person who's ever really understood her.
But more importantly... I do feel this topic belongs here, in BB!DOTC. Abuse is a MAJOR theme. SKYSTAR is a monster already. He's harmed two wives in BB (Bright Storm and Falling Cry) and played toxic games with all three kits (Thunder Storm, Pale Sky, Tiger Sky).
And I'd avoid Star Flower being abused... why? Because it's uncomfortable to confront the pattern that Clear Sky displays? That in-canon, he tries to cut all his victims into the same ideal shape, from Storm to Thunder to Star Flower? ...it should be uncomfortable. Everything that I described in Clear Sky Is A Monster is rooted in the same desire for control, power, and punishment most abusive people share, he just happens to be a severe example.
Yes. That includes how he treats his child and romantic partners. The parallels that are drawn between Starf and Thunder are there because he wants power in the form of obedience. Starf replaces the son as a narrative award for his "growth" of not killing random people anymore for a while.
A cookie cutter is an effective tool because IT ONLY MAKES ONE SHAPE.
You know what's more uncomfortable? Reading canon!DOTC and seeing someone who hurt you reflected almost perfectly in the character the writers think did nothing wrong. Because of "good intentions" that were not there.
I will say though, just to be clear; I don't see a purpose in being more than PG-13 about serious topics for this project. I promise none of my intentions have changed. Nothing will be more graphic or gorey than canon WC-- just more intentional.
I'm keeping the sacrifice because it's dope. No one is taking this from me. Girl Moment: Killed her awful husband 8 times to count as 8 sacrifices and offered the last life to her buddy as a show of good will. How else do you make friends outside of high school
But I know now that Star Flower NEEDS to keep the canon fact she has very little agency, UNTIL that moment she snaps.
She's sacrificing one abuser to try and bring back a bigger, badder one, because in spite of everything, her father One Eye always made her feel safe. Even though he promised her off to Skystar, and expected her to be willing to die for him. She's followed every command, every order, past the death of his mortal vessel.
The first, and only, selfish choice she's ever made was in reaching out to Thunderstar to offer him the power of her father.
Thunderstar's Justice is a story about a Thunder Storm at the pinnacle of his arc, how the survivors of his Clan are settling into the new normal after the carnage of The First Battle, how Skystar's arrogance brings a violent god to the Forest... and the connection Thunderstar makes with the daughter of a monster.
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chrissy-kaos · 6 months
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Hey @koldunyaa tell me without actually telling me you failed science class 😂😂
Get a life, you irrelevant pile of shit.
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crimeronan · 3 months
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i'm still fucking thinking about faulkner silt verses i haven't stopped all day. i just keep intermittently replaying parts of the ep and working my way thru the transcript. just now i was trying to explain to rafi how elated i was about everything that went down during this ep and rafi, horrified, was like "BUT I - I DON'T WANT HIM TO BE SUICIDAL????" and i was like "rafi. listen to me. i cannot express enough how much the suicide attempt was POSITIVE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT."
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torosdottir · 2 months
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if i see one more person call burn bright slurs im getting a gun
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berryblu-soda · 18 days
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local silly goofer was seething with rage and dumped it all in the tags, read at your own risk :3 <- personal stuff, wrote this after the tags, pretty okay now, just got it out of my system, love yall <3<3<3
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sandinthepipes · 9 months
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I'm just going to leave here the fact that Crowley has disregarded any concerns his family might have, alongside his pride, to fully accept and love aziraphale.
Aziraphale is still too attached to his family and his prejudice for Crowley's side to do that.
And then during a rainy day under a canopy I have struggled in vain and I can bear it no longer. I came to rosing with the single object of seeing you, I had to-
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Re: my last post, I do want to make a further statement that despite Jing Yuan's desire to be addressed by name, he will never ever express the reasons why, not explicitly. He also does not push too much, because doing so would raise questions that he is very much not willing to answer. Usually it's just a lighthearted request at introductions, maybe a playful reminder that one needn't be so formal with him, and nothing more. No follow up beyond that. ...And for that reason, it tends to get ignored.
So when someone calls him "general," he simply nods and smiles.
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realasslesbian · 1 year
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Can us lesbians actually stop just letting casual homophobia slip by in movements that are supporting us for this hot second. Because y'all did that with the queers and the transes and now y'all doing that with the rad fems, and my old homosexual ass is telling you these rad fems ain't gonna keep supporting lesbians once they don't need us no more. So when you see these hetties bad-mouthing the rainbow or gender non-conformity or whatever even small ass thing, can we, for once, take no fucking quarter?
#like the amount of straight rad fems I've seen shitting on Mardi Gras this last couple weeks#and the shit that they're shitting on is literally just homosexual people#they be like 'how dare these predators parade in the street'#like#fuck off Sandra your precious Nigel is probably doing far more degenerate shit right now#gay people being visibly gay is not inherently a bad thing#homosexuals merely existing doesn't mean we're automatically supporting TRA ideology#or sinning against the lord#or whatever your flavour of dumb thinly veiled homophobia is#Mardi Gras is a gay and lesbian event#for gays and lesbians#it literally says it in the name#and sure the TRAs have foisted themselves onto it like some stinking barnacles#but they're not what gay pride is about#so shitting on gay pride just for existing isn't revolutionary#it's just homophobic#you ain't no different from the hordes of homophobic men rampaging in Sydney's streets during Mardi Gras#you're ideology is just as homophobic as theirs#and therefore just as worthless#so maybe instead of opening y'all's mouth to condemn anything happening under a rainbow flag#maybe shut tf up for two seconds and ask yourself is it really your place to say anything at all#and is what your saying actually just homophobia#or just keep being homophobic idc at this point#what's another useless movement that lesbians busted our ass to get off the ground only for it to mutate into a lesbophobic dumpster fire#I'll honestly be surprised if this radfem wave turns out any different#lesbian#lgbt#feminism#gold star lesbian#gold star lesbians do interact
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greatestjubilee · 2 years
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Your love for sellen invigorates me because I share that love
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thank you me too. im going to put the rest of my response in the tags
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blunt-force-therapy · 11 months
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Aaaaaand here come the Pride posts from religious people
No, girl, I don't give a shit if "Christ's Sacred Heart" beats for me or not. Your Messiah and your saints don't matter. Quit talking about your religion as if it were for everyone, it hurt our people when it was created and it still does now
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garbage-floof · 3 months
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do yall see one of your friends being a massive jerk and doing something slightly offensive and you fucking have a verbal fight w them in your head
like, you're a great friend! but if you don't shut the fick up and listen why this is offensive then we can't even be friends anymore
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sailoryooons · 10 months
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Jungkook: I heard you all said I'm bitchless
Jungkook: *releases song about fucking seven days a week to make things right*
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ctl-yuejie · 11 months
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a bit of a reality check here (and yes, i am going to ask this question in a very biased way anyways), but:
AITA for not wanting another date when the woman you’re meeting doesn’t ask any questions about yourself for like the 5 hours you spend together and approx. talks 1/3 about her ex-girlfriend?
When I told her that I wasn’t really thinking about a second date because of it, she said she was too nervous at first (which is true, she almost 180°ed when I met up with her and was too shy to look into my direction for several minutes) and that she prefers to text people for a long time before meeting, which is where she asks about things she’s interested in (we texted for 1.5 months before meeting which isn’t really my style and I was accordingly bad at texting: she texted me good morning and good night everyday and i was happy when i managed to text her and/or reply to her once a day. I like to think that I tried)
but I still feel it is weird to just talk about yourself and your ex (at hour 4 I gave up on talking about myself without any prompt because whatever I said would be the first and last thing we’d exchange on that topic).
in good (?) news: I know get how Uncle Jim in MLC felt, because she still lives with her ex of 5 years and it did come up very often in conversation. While Wen didn’t tell him, Uncle Jim was 100% right that it makes things really tiring because the other person clearly isn’t in the mindset to start sth new.
If anyone is the type to text a lot before meeting someone: anything where this disconnect can be mitigated?
because I always thought it was standard (and at least my preference) to meet up very early to suss out the vibes. But maybe it’d be better in these cases to not start anything when you’re not texting back as frequently in the first place?
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belladonnaprice · 4 months
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Everyone talking about the bangers in Journey to Bethlehem and nobody's saying a /word/ about how absurd/petrifying/psychotic Mary, Married's Good for You is 😦 Like, they're essentially brainwashing her into giving up her dreams of teaching?
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nooks-cranny-mogai · 7 months
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I think because I'm 22 I see the mogai community, in general, going from the ages of 14 to 18/20 and the few and far between being 28-32. I see the behavior and general attitudes of mid-older teens usually and I'm usually right but I wanna see if I'm just crazy. I feel like there's a lot of teenagers here, especially 16-19.
#mogai#mogai community#mogai pride#actually mogai#mogai flag#mogai coining#clover speaks#being fr though#if your under the age of 16#please dont follow me#its not an ageist thing im just an adult and that makes me uncomfortable#i talk and coin adult things related to adults situations and issues#you dont need to be here#16 and 17 are on thin ice anyway for interactions because yeah#but you best be at least 18 if your gonna come up in my dms even platonically#im happy to inform others but i know my mouth and the jokes i make and thats not kid friendly#not that i make those jokes offhandedly to pple o dont know but still#i curse abit too much for a 14 yr old#like i get it i was 15 saying i was 18 to follow certain artists when i was younger#All kids lie about their age somewhere on the Internet#my google account thinks im like 30 because i set my age as 24 when i was 10 yrs younger 💀#i just didnt want a bullshit parental consent for a google account#i get it but please respect my boundaries#also big worried this comes off as creepy#not my intention#im mostly curious about the age break down of my following and the few lurkers but if this busts containment scp style thats cool too#i get so scared when someone dms me whose a minor and i dont know how to react#like on one hand i dont wanna be patronizing your 5 yrs younger than me thats rude but also i dont wanna be too casual incase#it could be miscontrued as groomy behavior 💀 like i just wanna be cool and chill#which is why i dont allow minors to dm me lol
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