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chissjedi · 7 months
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I am concerned about Thrawn's characterization.
A key part of why Thrawn is somewhat likeable is how he always encourages independent thinking and dislikes blind obedience. Everything Thrawn does is a calculated choice and he encourages that thoughtfulness in all his subordinates.
He would not want an army chanting his name.
His motivations don't add up. Thrawn always said his loyalty was first to his people and the Empire second. He always said that using the Empire was a means to an end.
If the Empire collapsed, he would not build it up again. He would abandon it. He would start over somewhere else and find a different resource. After all, Thawn steals art. He does not make it.
Thrawn is not a good guy. He outright says he ignores his conscience to accomplish his goals and abandoned the same people he claimed to protect for 20 years. But he was a truly complex villain in Rebels and an anti-hero in the books.
Ahsoka, so far, has flattened one of the most compelling Star Wars characters and I am greatly disappointed.
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guinevereslancelot · 1 year
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i think dave filoni was so humiliated by fans roasting him for admittting he doesn't have any idea where the mando story is going that he was desperate to change the subject so he decided to distract everyone by saying the dumbest possible thing he could think of and the first thing that came to mind was "luke isn't really a jedi" because literally what other explanation is there for that string of words
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oreolesbian · 1 year
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still actively seething about how not only did disney ruin everything about luke skywalker and his legacy as a character in the sequels, but they are now taking one of his most beloved legends stories, heir to the empire, and doing it without him
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lukeskywalking · 1 year
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Feeling completely normal over the fact that they took Luke’s backstory, lightsaber, last name, ship, and now his legacy and given it to Rey when they could’ve just wrote the story with Luke in the first place. I’m feeling so normal and understanding and accepting and
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lunarlathe · 1 year
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One of the things I don't want to do is reduce Riyo fighting for the clones as something she's doing because of Ahsoka/another character. I've seen a lot of 'Riyo's fighting for the clones because of Fox' kind of stuff, and though that's fine to think, it ultimately isn't true. She's never interacted with him, barely interacts with Ahsoka from what we've seen either, and I think that sort of statement (unless made in jest which is what I have mostly seen) reduces Riyo's character and her own motivations.
I love that she is fighting for clone rights, that she's also not alone in that fight, although ultimately it is a futile one. It's a brave thing to fight for, and Riyo does it anyway because she believes in it, thinks it's the right thing to do and is determined to make it happen. That's something she decided of her own volition, not because she's got a relationship with another character who is close to the clones/a clone. That's what I love about her. She's deciding what is right and wrong and that growth from being indecisive on Orto Plutonia, to more bold during Sphere of Influence, to now in The Bad Batch fighting against the majority of the Senate for something she believes in. It's just nice to see her character grow a little.
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humandisastersquad · 7 months
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always laugh when i see someone call anakin "the greatest jedi of all time" as if there aren't three movies and an entire animated series that show he was anything but
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bo-katan · 7 months
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Anyway, another sequel project to ignore the existence of 😜
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revenge-of-the-shit · 8 months
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Taking a break to watch actual martial arts movies and then coming back to western action media like Star Wars is so funny. Yeah your spins and flips look cool but they're so inefficient. You're going to get stabbed by the time you're done your massive spin, Anakin. Those twirls are going to expend energy you don't need to expend, Ahsoka
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lordbhreanna · 6 months
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The one thing I miss about Star Wars is the vibes of Reylo and Caltrilla.
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Like those ships wrote themselves, had wonderful thematic contrasts, were full of potential for amazing storytelling within the SW universe and all its weird space magic shenanigans, and the creators did... nothing that was worth it with their own material. They took the blandest, most boring path or simply destroyed the female character (I am still mourning Rey Nobody, even though I could care less about canon at this point in my life.)
I was willing to give Jedi Survivor a chance if, somehow, they pulled the "resurrected Trilla" card, but from what I have checked, they didn't. The game may be good, can't say because I haven't checked anything, but without Trilla and her dynamic with Cal (and also seeing Trilla and Cere interact!!)... it just doesn't sound that interesting to me. Respawn came up with such a great character and decided to get rid of her in one game.
Regarding Reylo, I'm not even gonna mention Episode IX because, while I understand people can enjoy it for a bit of fun or find something good in it (and I am truly happy for those people), that movie made me feel like my intelligence was being insulted, so yeah. Mentally, I am still at TLJ era.
Of course this is my personal opinion and experience with SW, which doesn't reflect anyone else and there's no right/wrong approach to this. I don't like indulging too much in the negative, because a) there are people still enjoying SW and Episode IX and b) fandom is for fun, so if you're not having fun..., let go of that fandom. Which is what I did.
However, I miss it sometimes, but for a saga that holds redemption arcs at the center of its narrative/thematic core, they fuck up a lot of them. Only ones which ended where it should, from what I remember, are... Vader and Kallus? And Revan, more or less.
Guess the answer is the same as always: fuck canon, write fanfic. If I ever manage to be a slighty more prolific writer, just a teensy bit, I would love to redo that one Caltrilla fic I dropped after watching Episode IX because I just couldn't engage with anything SW-related after that clusterfuck of a movie. I orphaned it from AO3, but it's still up.
Anyway, this random SW post is sponsored by a beautiful Caltrilla gifset that showed on my dashboard and reignited my hashtag FEELINGS.
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starfiyah · 26 days
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so you’re telling me they’ll let freddie prinze jr cameo as kanan but tiya sircar was not even considered to play sabine .
i swear to god i’m trying to heal and get over this but it’s just so unfair?!! star wars will do anything but cast a dark skinned woman. every single actor who’s gotten to reprise their VA role is WHITE and now we have two instances (ie clancy brown as ryder azadi) where it actually counts as whitewashing!!
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chissjedi · 8 months
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Ahsoka taking in Sabine as an apprentice is not an inherently bad decision. Ahsoka taking the role as a mentor is fine. They both could learn a lot from each other.
It is the use of the term Padawan that is wrong.
Ordinary people use apprenticeships to train and teach before becoming a master of an art. Even the Sith use that method and terminology.
However, Padawan is a very specific term used exclusively within the Jedi Order. Using this term liberally, incorrectly, could be considered cultural appropriation.
And Sabine's relationship to her Mandalorian heritage was a key part of her story in Rebels. She was strongly invested in preserving their art and history.
Pushing Sabine into a Jedi lifestyle is not only unnecessary, but disrespectful to both cultures and her character development.
I am not saying a Mandalorian cannot also be a Jedi; that is exactly what Grogu's story is about! But, for these characters with this background, it is inappropriate and pointless.
Maybe if we get more insight into Sabine and Ahsoka's history together and her rumored sensitivity it will be okay, but right now it makes me very uncomfortable.
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kaxtwenty · 7 months
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Yeah, I think it’s safe to say that Filoni’s going through his own “prequel era,” like Lucas did.
What I mean by that is that he’s gained just a bit too much clout and prestige at Lucasfilm and not enough people are willing to sit him down and tell him no.
This show’s simultaneously restored my faith in a lot of his abilities, but it’s also shown me that he needs to reigned in and given a proper team of writers to bounce his ideas off of.
The highs were high (Ahsoka and Anakin), but the lows were pretty damn low as well (Sabine using the Force).
The biggest issue with him going to live action is that this new team doesn’t balance out his flaws nearly as well as his old teams did.
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oreolesbian · 7 months
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does… does dave filoni know that the whole “anyone can be force sensitive if they put their mind to it” bullshit fundamentally shatters the entire core of star wars world-building around force users? like - does he understand that?
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lukeskywalking · 1 year
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Dave Filoni missed the whole point where Luke redefined what it means to be a Jedi and he is not the last of the old Jedi, but the first of the new. I thought this was obvious but between this and tbobf claiming that Luke would carry on the “no attachments” rule I truly honestly think that Dave left his media literacy at the doorstep of TCW
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abla-soso · 2 years
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I remember reading something that clicked with me and the more I think about it the more I feel it explained why I'm so deeply frustrated with how the Jedi are written in canon and how the fandom responds to them:
In any other story - either old or new, Western or Eastern - the Jedi order would be the unambiguously evil force, or the well-meaning antagonists, or the deeply misguided good guys that the real heroes of the story need to fight and overcome.
And that's 100% correct.
The biggest flaw in the SW narrative is how it dares to ask the audience something no other story is dumb enough to ask: to view the deeply problematic religious/military organization as the heroes of the story (who only made a few forgivable mistakes). Not the flawed good guys/protagonists, but the actual heroes. The people who we should aspire to be.
Jedi apologists love to accuse the recent overwhelming wave of Jedi critical stories and meta as being the result of the cynical new trend in fandom and popular culture that loves accusing the good guys of any story of being "secretly bad". But I'll argue it's actually the audience finally letting go (heh) of their nostalgic love affair with SW and rejecting the ridiculous demand of the SW narrative.
There is a reason why the sequels needed to have Luke spiting on the old Jedi order and explicitly stipping them of their "heroes" title.
It was about time it happens.
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blackat-t7t · 23 days
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Ok but did anyone actually WANT "tales of the empire"?
Because all I've ever seen people ask for is "Tales of the Clones" or "Tales of the Jedi 2: tales of ACTUAL jedi who WANT to be jedi and STAY jedi and don't leave the order for whatever fucking reason"
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