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decalcominia · 6 months

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I need byeon wooseok to play another villain role but this time he gets the girl

#kdramas have to start having villains as main leads #ryu shioh is so well written imagine if he had a redemption and a love story #all what this show did was turning me into a shioh apologist #how do make a show only for people to root for the villain #byeon wooseok #strong girl gang nam soon #strong girl namsoon

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obisamya · 5 months

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One day you'll figure me out I'll meet judgement by the hounds STRONG GIRL NAM SOON (2023)

#kdrama #kdramaedit #kdramadaily #kdramagifs #strong girl nam soon #lee yoo mi #byeon woo seok #gang nam soon #ryu shi oh #thank u to mitski for releasing i'm your man.... these lyrics r so ryu shi oh core it's craaaazy #gifs.#they make me insane fr #i can ignore the atrocities when every time nam soon is in the room he's like 🥺😍🥰

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deus-sema · 6 months

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It is interesting to note how Nam-soon and Ryu Shi-oh's journeys are twisted parallels of each other; both of them were ripped away from their homeland at young ages but grew up under different circumstances which influenced not only their personalities but also the decisions they would go on to make.

It appears that Shi-oh's obsession with strength stems from the belief that it's only the strong that survive while the weak are doomed, which had been drilled into him by the mafia. Deep down, he craves strength to overcome his vulnerability, which he deems a weakness and keeps concealed with the sole objective of safeguarding himself. Such is his desperation that he is willing to make do with an illusion of strength, even if it kills him in the process.

It's ironic when one considers that, in the first episode, Nam-soon had remarked that she would like a man she could protect.

Because of her experiences, after arriving in Korea, Nam-soon learned the world is more jaded than she could realise. This allowed her to provide a more balanced yet honest answer to Shi-oh's question because even though she is committed to her assigned duty, she hasn't condemned him entirely in her mind........ yet.

I do not entertain any hopes for this relationship's future in the coming episodes but I'll stick to the stand that it was a wasted opportunity to not have her develop a romantic interest in him and explore their conflicted equation in-depth. It wouldn't have mattered if they didn't end up together and have a happily ever after.

On a related note, the chemistry between the two of them is immaculate.

#strong girl nam soon #ryu shi oh #gang nam soon #lee yoo mi #byeon woo seok #kdrama

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magicaldragons · 6 months

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peak romance is saying "be on my side"

"All I wanted, was for you to be on my side. I would've done anything for that to happen." – kang yohan | the devil judge

"Hit me all you want, but be on my side; because even when you hit me, it's for my sake." – nam shin | are you human too?

"I thought you were on my side." – ryu shi oh | strong girl namsoon bonus: "no matter what, you must stay by my side." – ryu shi oh | strong girl nam soon

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kruzbr · 6 months

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sorryy sorry i know hes a terrible guy but he likes a girl soo dsfasadkjf

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lavandaea · 6 months

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*inhales deeply*

There's spoilers ahead so, yeah, be careful.

This weekend episodes have actually broken my soul.

He didn't even need his feelings to be reciprocate, HE JUST WANTED TO BE WITH HER.

Dear writers, some things to ask, why so much screen time to second male lead? Why create such chemistry? Such backstory? (Spoiler alert: that will make us sympathize with the supposed villain) To just fuck*ing rip his heart out and pulverize it like Grandma with the cow bones, yes, just like that.

Let me get this straight, after having been raised in an environment of violence, pain and God knows what else for God knows how long, he falls in love. He experiences ✨feelings✨ ,he puts all his trust in her like never before, he shares his past and then he gets betrayed.

I swear I never seen someone cry so with so much meaning, feeling, with so much back there.

We made progress for the last (at least) five episodes TO JUST END IT IN A SINGLE ONE.

This could have been handled a lot better in a lot of ways and about a lot of topics that I could actually write an essay.

Let's begin the the main leads.

So, in order to have some sort of feeling about ML and FL loving eachother you need to put screen time ON them. Yeah, they support eachother, they have known far before Si Oh, they are funny and a lot of things more. They even kissed and very passionately, wow.

Just one thing, Why didn't I even blink during that scene but found myself hitting the pillow and blushing when Si Oh did such mundane things as taking her home, opening doors for her, fixing her purse, hair, looking at her with those "I love you" eyes,👏feeling👏guilty👏about👏making👏her👏uncomfortable👏 with👏his👏feelings👏for👏her HELLO??, WAVING HER BACK WHILE HE WATCHED HER GO, SMILE EVERY DAMN TIME HE SAW HER?

I´ll tell you why. Because I know, thanks to you, that Si Oh was experiencing for the very first time what it's like to have human interaction that doesn't involve violence or having to be wary of everything and everyone all the time.

Even after having lived a life of shit, even after still living a life of absolute shit he still wanted to be connect, to be happy, to make her happy, to love and be loved. Moreover, I couldn't help just to feel happy for him, sad, angry, fucking rageous (not more than him, obviously).

Meanwhile, I barely know Hee Sik aka the male lead.

I remember seeing his mother once and I think that's what I understood about his private life. Sorry, I forgot about his deceased brother, that could have been a good topic to develop if it wasn't just mentioned once somewhere in the sixth chapter and left there to rot. Other than that, I know he is a cop, loves his cops friends and loves Nam Soon, also he is really loyal and good person.

Nice👍, very nice. But that's not personality or backstory, that's a job and some general traits everyone should have to live in a society and have a job where you usually do the teamwork thingy.

So, what else??

Or does the man just exist for his job and girlfriend? Even Shi Oh had some time to box being a drug dealer and full time whipped for her.

I'm just saying that you want me to suddenly dislike someone you took a considerable amount of time explaining but I have to like this good guy because you just pointed at him 👉🧍, and said, "here's the good guy, love him".

Sorry, I cant do that.

If you haven't noticed, you just made a character I fell obliged to sympathize.

If you wanted to make him evil and hot you should have just made him evil and hot.

It worked just as well with Jang Han Seok from Vincenzo.

Not have him have "REDEMPTION" written all over his face just to go with "Actually, no. He has no chance. 😃". It's, for lack of a better term, frustrating. (Absurd)

Instead, maybe you should have dedicated that screen time for the construction of the main leads relationship.

Oh, yes. Another thing since we are talking about the matter.

ML and FL relationship progress got weaker and weaker since she had started to spy on Si Oh. And then one episode was like "Oh, yeah, forgot to tell you, they are actually dating by now" Bom, a kiss. If I need a kiss to know they are in love, there's something going on back there. Something lacking.

Scenes of them in love: well acted, nice, cute, cool, okay. But it is like picking a random romance book and start reading it ten chapters ahead, they are in love, but how this did happen??? Last time I saw them, they were in a friends-and-some-more zone.

Where's their development?

I know where is it. In the fake relationship, that it was being used just to turn Si Oh into a complete monster with probably not chance of going back.

"You have suffered a lot, yeah, I see. Anyway here's more pain. Suffer more and go cause some trouble because if not, there's, apparently, no plot"

Nice job.

I have been saying this and I will say it again, kdrama writers/directors are not ready for traumatized villains. They are afraid of them.

#strong girl nam soon #ryu shi oh #byun woo seok #gang nam soon #nam soon #kdrama #lee yoo mi #even hong seol and jeong had more chemistry and thats saying a lot

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doontpanic · 6 months

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I can't believe a woman carried me out...

You fell because of me. It's the least I could do.

#strong girl nam soon #kdramaedit #kdramanetwork #kang nam-soon #gang hee-sik #if i could give you one reason to watch this show... there it is #mine #1.05

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glitterytreechild · 4 months

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The nerve of gang nam soon, the pampered kid with FOUR parents who would do anything in their power to provide for her, who has not ONCE in her existence felt an ounce of loneliness, who's trillionaire mother would rip the world inside out for her, who discovers capitalism and has the realisation that the world isn't cotton candy and bubbles but actually evil for the FIRST time when she's 22 yrs old; the nerve THE NERVE of that girl to chastise Ryu Sio, an orphan abandoned by the world, who was used and abused by the mafia, forced to murder people at 6 yrs of age, used like a puppet, torn between a war inside him, who not once in his life received the chance to be human.

Hwang geum ju is a filthy hypocrite with her "people can change if they're given a second chance", where was your magnanimous-forgiving-second-chance giving spirit when you were dealing with someone being forced by one of the most powerful mafias in the world to distribute drugs? As for Gang nam soon, I've never hated a main character as much as I hated her. How could you turn around after someone tells you they've been abused their entire life, trusted no one, and were forced to do terrible things to survive, and call them a bastard? Does nam soon not have an ounce of empathy in her hypocrite body? The parallels between Nam soon eating lunch in a villa with her two mothers and relatives who love her more than anything else in the world and the scenes where Sio sat alone in the place where his orphanage stood? And knowing that despite being abandoned by his parents which resulted in him being abused for years he understood that his biological parents were probably not in a position to provide for him and tracked them down and provided for them? And all this for the drama writers to just include a scene where the main characters on their romantic stroll to muse once about how different ryu Sio would have turned out if the world had shown him an OUNCE OF KINDNESS? Like you guys are seriously telling me that this thought did not occur ONCE in gang nam soon, daughter of philanthropist and believer of goodness of people Hwang geum ju, that this man opening up to you about his traumatic childhood and life and the fact that he does not want to die being controlled by an evil mafia could possibly be a better human if he recieved the chance? This drama could have explored a complex relationship between Sio and Nam soon, where she recognised that he was really a victim of society's evils, Hwang geum ju could have helped Sio escape the clutches of the mafia and they could have taken down this organisation together, but no instead the writers decided to make a drama chock full of loopholes, cringe dialogue, predictable and boring plot "twists", a painfully one dimensional male lead, and a forced romantic relationship between the main characters who had ZERO chemistry. From a kdrama fan who LOVED strong woman do bong soon and only and only started this drama because of bongbong and minmin's 5 minute cameo, I'm beyond disappointed. It ruined my year ending (almost)

#strong girl nam soon #gang namsoon #ryu si oh #ryu sio #byeon woo seok #strong girl bong soon #kdrama

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ladywatereton · 5 months

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As my research deepens, the greater the expansion of my new Roman Empire: Byeon Woo-seok as Ryu Shi-oh.

JTBCDrama literally confirmed via IG account that Ryu Shi-oh FELL IN LOVE with Tsetseg.

Much is said that he only wanted her by force, but Tsetseg was not Gang Nam-soon. He also didn't know about the power of women. So why would Shi-oh look at Tsetseg with anything other than coveting his power other than with affection? Why wouldn't he fall in love?

Tsetseg and Gang Nam-soon were not the same person. Tsetseg challenged him, she was bold and seemed not to feel uncomfortable around him. She listened to him and showed compassion for his sad life story.

And, I still make room to comment on Ryu Shi-oh's stance. When he was around anyone else, he always walked around with his hands in his pockets (which can be considered a disrespectful gesture in Korea). Even when he hit the Delivery Man, he had his hand in his pocket.

Beside Tsetseg, he always had his hands exposed. He treated her as an equal and even as a superior (he sleeps in her presence, proving that he had trust in her to guard him in such a vulnerable state).

I'm not trying to justify the character's actions, but it's unfair to treat everything as black/white. Ryu Shi-oh was a character that had several layers. He was a Psychopath (although I don't agree with the definition in JTBCDrama itself) and could fall in love with Tsetseg.

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beeedelweiss · 6 months

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The Ryu Shi Oh treatment

Oh boy do I have a lot to say.

So Shi Oh is the CEO of Doogo right ?

When we first met him we saw that he was violent and he did not care about being physically violent.

His introduction scene came in episode 1 when he was in that bus thingy watching Nam Soon stopping the plane and being head over heels for her. He is fascinated by her

At the beginning we dont have much info about him : all that we know is that he is the CEO, the one dealing the drugs, violent and scared of nothing.

Then we see him doing his little business drug and wanting to find Nam Soon, then he do finds her.

The chemistry is there at their first scene. Shi Oh is fascinated by her and really likes her, he wants to know more. He is jealous as he sees her having fun downstairs with Hee Sik.

Somehow she comes to aid him at the office, he trust her, he is fascinated by her, by Tsetseg.

The more we see them the more we see a new side of Shi Oh.

Not only do we learn that he can be very tender, soft hearted, he worries about her, cares about her. He wants to help her get a citizenship, drive her home, wants to help her find her own home. He drives her home personnally, they have meals together. He helps her putting her bag well on her shoulder, helps her with her jacket.

She is the only person which can makes him smile.

He is interested in her, and truly cares for her.

Not only that but we also learnt about his past, which he is starting to share with her as well.

He was an orphan and was adopted into a russian mafia group, which truly mistreated him. He could not eat if he did not win hand fight, was clearly being beaten up. We are only starting to see of his abuse, physical and mental.

The fact that he is opening up to Nam Soon (Tsetseg) and explaining that for him friendship and love were never an option but that with her it is finally something he can imagine is so important.

He also confessed and is vocal about his feelings. He trust her, he wants her by his side.

We also saw them bonding multiple times, being away from their natal countries, missing something, Being honest and wondering what their places in society is.

We also saw her standing up for him against her mother. Which he deeply appreciated. She always cares about him and asks him whats wrong

There is this phrase that I really like that nam soon said that was about your place in life : wether someone is in the dark or in the light and she said that he was in the middle. Searching for his light.

We saw in the last two episodes that he keeps thinking about : Nam soon could be his light, he wants to be in the light.

He is trying his hardest to break free from the mafia and the drugs and the antidote are that door to freedom for him.

We also saw how deeply he was worried for her when she did not come to work, how worried he was that it was because of his confession, but also when he took the drug he asked her to stay away from him, why ? probably because he was scared that he could hurt her.

Now the problem is that we are getting at the end of the drama. Soon he will find out that Tsetseg the woman he loves and trust is not who she pretends to be. And he is going to be broken hearted.

I don't see a good ending for him, the most likely cases can be cut to 3 :

Mafia finds him first and kills him since he is disobeying them

The police will arrest him and he will end in jail

He dies during a police operation (I could totally see a scene where he dies in Nam-Soon arms thanking her for making him feel love and friendship for the first time in his life)

Now that is why I am mad. It is extremely unlikely that he will have a happy ending, that he will be with Nam Soon

Which to me is so unfair.

Yes he did hurt and kill people but he is a victim as well.

He has trauma, and a really heavy huge one. It is not a vilain which does it without reasons or only for his pleasure, he is doing it to free himself from the mafia and from his trauma.

What he definitely needs is a therapist. He needs to heal from the pain in his heart.

What makes it so unfair is that I know he is not gonna end up well, he will either die or end up in jail.

And I hates it.

I want him to be happy, to be at peace. His whole life was suffering and trusting no one.

And now that he finally trust and love someone he is gonna lose her. He is gonna lose everything.

I just wish that for once, he would be happy, he would be forgiven just like the girl who tried to kill Nam-Soon.

I wish that he could be with Nam-Soon and heal properly with his trauma.

All those scenes that shows his trauma and childhood is to make us feel for him, feel sympathetic. Only for what ? For them to kill him off (probably).

The message that will be send out will be that even if you have trauma and you start to heal from it, is that there is no way of healing, there is no way of being free.

Shi Oh deserves the hapiness, he deserves to be with Nam Soon.

And I know that he will not get it

#lemme hear your thoughts #kdrama #strong girl nam soon #strong girl nam soon kdrama #gang nam soon #ryu shi oh #gang nam soon x ryu shi oh

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generalizedanxioustroublesbaby · 7 months

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I'm sure that in the last episode of Strong woman Gang Nam Soon we'll see Bong Soon and Min Hyuk make a video game about Nam Soon, and she'll have the little gold wand as her weapon of choice.

#mark my words #strong woman do bong soon #strong girl nam soon #ahn min hyuk #do bong soon #Gang Nam Soon

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decalcominia · 6 months

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this is going to sound biased because not gonna lie I am indeed biased but the pain of sio finding out tsetseg is namsoon felt so personal I just need to vent a little.

In my opinion, if they (sio/namsoon) were the main couple in this show, it would've been so much more complex and intriguing because of how different they are from each other and how in the progression of the storyline they would've changed each other.

on one hand, we have sio, who pretty much just sees the worst in people, is individualistic, doesn't trust anyone and is just a textbook villain since he doesn't necessarily feel bad about his actions either and will do anything to achieve what he wants.

on the other hand, we have namsoon who just screams sunshine in person; she wants to help people and believes that there is good in basically everyone. She doesn't shy away from trusting people and is a very bright and friendly girl who doesn't differentiate between them.

both also have their strong beliefs and principles that they stick to which is, to be honest just a result of their past and, well, in sio's case a result of his trauma. He had to fight to survive and basically earn his right to live, experiencing everything a child shouldn't and being raised in the worst conditions and environment possible, while namsoon, apart from her birth parents much like sio, still got to experience a, let's say, "normal" childhood with loving parents and basically witnessed life always from the bright side, very far removed of the darkness of it all.

now imagine if they had put these two together and how complex their storyline would've been. One conflict would be her first impression of him, which is that he is inherently bad, because as I mentioned, he is the textbook villain, and after hearing of what he did, alongside her mother and everyone else, she too would be convinced he is bad and they're the good ones, which if you look at the bigger picture without considering why he does all of it, is the truth

That being said, another conflict would be their personalities. One would think that because they are on opposing sides of a spectrum, they wouldn't get along at all but looking at the content we got of them being together, despite his personality and principles, namsoon managed to become a safety zone for sio. If they had been the main couple, their time together would slowly conflict namsoon from within because what she personally sees of him, does not match the definition of a villain, therefore confusing her as she proceeds to see his point of view but still being unsure because she also has duties to go after (which is to expose him and his deeds):

and finally, it would take a long time for her to actually see and understand him, but she would eventually understand why he has done the things (and eventually find out his motive as well which is possibly just to find binbin. Idk if that's his actual motive but after today's ep I feel like it is.) and realize that there is some darkness to life but also that nothing is just black and white, good or bad.

and just like how sio influenced her beliefs, she too would help him to change his mind about people, that there are some he can trust and find comfort in (much like how she has so far).

This has gotten so much longer than I expected but all I'm trying to say is that to me personally, their relationship has much more depth and difficulty that would've been amazing to see them work through. All I'm gonna do now is submit into delusion and hope they pull a love alarm in the last three eps or just write some fanfiction.

#wasted potential if I may add #idk they should've just hired me #a villain and a good girl love story???#would've been life changing.#strong girl nam soon #strong girl gang nam soon

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fewwordsmanyriddles · 4 months

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Gang Nam Soon is the delulu in us, K-drama fans.

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weirdhunterangel · 6 months

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This is so tragic. Mostly because I come from so many fandoms where there are a whole bunch of people creating work around plotline villains. Both as a direct effect of existing work and as headcannons. Its acceptable and encouraged.

But I see a lot of people here are like in no way should murderous villain get the girl. Which okay....fair.

I would like to reiterate, this is fiction. A villain can also be a likeable character. Here in Si-Ohs case it stems from the portrayal, that while he does vile crimes, he also sometimes has a soft side that is very apparent. He has a tragic backstory. People like the chance for morally grey or even black characters to be redeemed. In ficition. Its possible.

That being said. Nobody is wrong for wanting the female lead to end up with him. Its not something I'm particularly looking for but the possibilities of what it could have been is high. This could have been the epitome of a darker romance okay?? I stand by that.

And there is no moral high ground in disliking him or not wanting nam soon to end up with him. Saw another post about this that I agree with completely. If the writers wanted us to dislike Si-Oh, they shouldn't have written him the way they did. They should have made a character with absolutely no tragedy or qualities that people just couldnt like. They made him likeable. Because that is how it was intended. And even if it wasnt, I would still be here xD

#strong girl nam soon #lu watches #gang nam soon #ryu si oh #love villains #here for morally questionable characters #its fiction it isnt that deep #or maybe its just me #deep as heck #kdramanetwork #kdrama #netflix

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magicaldragons · 6 months

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"do you understand, the violence it took to become this gentle?"