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[a2zillustration]

My BG3 run is quickly devolving into a messy dating sim (sorry)

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#also I panicked SO HARD because I'd seen a couple people say that dancing with Wyll- #even rejecting him- ruined the Gale romance and prevents it from happening and I didn't see that until after 2 more hours of gameplay #spoilers we're good #bg3 #baldur's gate 3 #bg3 spoilers #act II spoilers #croissant adventures #wyll #tav #gale #comics #we're coming up on my Big Project Comic and uh I hope you like it it's extremely self-indulgent lol #also have you even truly lived if you haven't slept in the same room as your crush while not being able to do anything about it #there's some free a2z lore for you #gale dekarios #breadweave

[bewarethecircles]

I went through every possible emotion in those last 20 minutes, plus some that I made up on the spot! how are y'all?

#we're really all dying together huh #good omens #good omens season two #good omens spoilers #good omens 2 #good omens 2 spoilers #crowley x aziraphale #ineffable husbands #ineffable spouses #ineffable bureaucracy #beelzebub x gabriel #aziraphale x crowley

[huang-er-jiejie]

i. i just realised something about the kiss.

the way when aziraphale puts both of his hands on crowley's back, you can see them kinda shift so aziraphale isn't leaning. he held onto crowley for stability, and leaned in. pushed closer to him. he leaned forward. anyone ever says he didn't want the kiss im going to hunt you down because HE HELD CLOSE!!! HE KISSED BACK!!!!

EDIT: also im like WELL aware he kissed back i was even when i first watched it like its not a big revelation, its just that SOME people☠️ on TIKTOK☠️ KEEP SAYING HE WAS DISGUSTED BY THE KISS???? like i swear some people are watching a different show entirely

#HE KISSED BACK. ANYONE SAYS OTHERWISE I SWEAR TO GOD. #HE WANTS THE KISS!! ITS JUST THAT A PART OF HIM FEELS BAD ABOUT IT! #HE FEELS BAD FOR WANTING IT #even if they spent so long dismantling his belief of 'we're on opposite sides' #hes just always going to feel that way deep down #he wants the kiss. its just that why did it have to happen that way. #good omens #gos2 spoilers #aziraphale #crowley #anthony j crowley #aziracrow #ineffable husbands #azirafell #good omens 2 #'i forgive you' maybe in the way that the kiss can be seen as a temptation #like in the garden of eden #but crowley is the apple. he is the forbidden fruit

[unhingedpirates]

Aziraphale with other people:

Aziraphale with his husband, ON THE SAME FUCKING DAY:

#tbf i'd also make crowley dance #we're not gonna talk about the last time he 'forgave him'. nope. #aziraphale #crowley #ineffable husbands #good omens #good omens 2 #good omens s2 spoilers #gos2spoilers #michael sheen #david tennant #good omens s2e1 #my garbage

[dogstrikes]

I. "What if he didn't get to read that novel... What will happen to him?"

#shes back again. with an orv worm in my brain #orv #omniscient reader's viewpoint #kim dokja #orv spoilers #my art #embarking on a new journey of drawing one of these every month for the whole year #we're off to a good start bc i just barely made it in before february #id in alt text

[cuntfan]

2000s queerphobia era, 2010s queerbaiting era, 2020s queer break-up era

#good omens #our flag means death #interview with the vampire #what we do in the shadows #a league of their own #first kill #we're living but at what cost #good omens spoilers #killing eve

[crowley-anthony]

the good omens fandom going unhinged in the tumblr tags

#goodomensedit #good omens spoilers #good omens #ineffable husbands #hope you don't mind me using your tags #these made me laugh so much when i was looking at them all #we're all feral #ineffablehusbandsedit #crowleyedit #crowley #aziraphaleedit #aziraphale #mine* #3k

[catabasis]

david tennant has made it his mission to break our hearts this year

#and i thank him for that #he's been breaking our hearts for years #and we're not catching a break this year #david tennant #good omens #crowley #doctor who #fourteenth doctor #doctor who 60th anniversary #doctor who spoilers

[inafever]

On how much Aziraphale has learned since season one:

This is about character development. Inside of a story, everything that happens, happens for a reason. It's meant to tell you something, to teach you or the character of your story, something.

So if the story continues and your character repeats the same mistakes again you know that they are bound to be doomed this time, and even worse the audience is going to certainly lose respect for them, cause they have made the same mistake twice, they haven't learned anything, they're gonna do it again another time, they don't deserve a happy ending. (yes I'm talking about good omens here) So you don't do that to a character that matters to you and you respect even the tiniest bit.

A Lot of us here are thinking that this is what has happened to Aziraphale's character at the end of season two, that he has done it again, repeated the same mistake again and has left Crowley to join heaven and it's been because of reasons like wanting to change Crowley (not true, see this post), still believing in heaven's goodness (not true at all), not being on the same page with Crowley (I'm gonna talk about this one especially in this post) and such likes. But these are the things he should've known better about after 6000 years and all the events that we've learnt about especially throughout season two. (It seems to be rather the whole point doesn't it?)

But we all seem to rather believe that he's made that mistake again nonetheless. so what we're doing here is trying to find reasons to justify the mistake and somehow make the reason behind the wrong actions something relatable to ourselves so we can forgive him when the time comes.

In fact I don't believe that he's made a mistake. for Aziraphale's character to be redeemable, what he has done, must be the only option that he's had for saving them both. I don't care what kind of situation could have resulted in him making this decision, but the only reason, the one and only reason, must be his love for Crowley. Otherwise it'll prove that he hasn't learnt his lessons or doesn't love Crowley enough to make a compromise, and in both cases, he's not worthy of love. He won't earn his happy ending by being tortured and feeling sorry and doing the apology dance for Crowley if he's hurt Crowley out of selfishness and stupidity again

But I'm sure he'll earn his happy ending and I'm sure he's learnt his lessons and it's too late for him to have unlearned them all in a matter of a few seconds. (He is an idiot but he's not stupid) and it's mostly because of this, that I believe the reason why he made that decision, must be very different from what it appears to be on the surface.

Anyway, this post is about what Aziraphale has learned and how he's changed.

I have made a post about their moments of conflict from both season one and two, it's here and you can look it up. This is where you begin to understand how Aziraphale has changed since season one because these are his dialogues after he's had a fight with Crowley in the bandstand, season one:

"even if I did know where the antichrist was I wouldn't tell you we're on opposite sides"

"friends? We're not friends. We are an angel and a demon. We have nothing whatsoever in common. I don't even like you"

"there is no our side Crowley. Not anymore. It's over"

And then there's season two, when they disagree on what to do with Gabriel, Aziraphale is the one to point out that they both rely on the life they've built together

He's asking him to help him take care of Gabriel together and in response Crowley leaves

In the final scene he asks Crowley to come back to heaven

"work with me" "We can be together as Angels, Doing good" "I need you."

He says anything he can think of literally to convince him to stay with him and it doesn't work

We start from "we're not friends" and arrive at "work with me. we can be together"

Even if we don't know the reason why he's insisting on taking Crowley back to heaven with him, this is an Angel that has picked up the pace. That wants them to be an us. No matter what.

But these are only a few dialogues. I think there's more than that. I think the show in five and a half episodes (out of six) has tried its hardest to make the point quite clear about how Aziraphale feels about Crowley (or how strongly he feels those emotions). all through the way he looks at him and through his gestures and soft touches from time to time

I'm gonna make another post of those moments separately and I'm gonna link it to this when I do.

update: (here's the post. not just average moments of Aziraphale looking cute, it's something about the way he looks at him)

And I'd like to even compare those wishful glances to some of those from season one, but I can't, cause they are nonexistent in there.

#remember season two is a test of faith guys #we're the job in this one #neil liked this #good omens #good omens 2 #gos2 spoilers #good omens spoilers #gos2 #good omens season 2 #aziraphale #crowley #ineffable husbands #aziracrow #gomens #gomens 2 #neil gaiman #good omens season 2 spoilers #good omens season two #good omens thoughts #good omens analysis #good omens meta #gos2 theory

[sanitizarium]

i read thunder last night and i love their contrast

#warrior cats spoilers #asc thunder spoilers #wc thunder spoilers #warrior cats #wc #a starless clan #asc thunder #frostpaw #nightheart #fanart #art #art.png #i KNOWWWW nightheart is supposed to be pure black but i think. black and orange-brown nightheart pretty. #edit okay we're good u can rb if you want i fucked it up TWICE

[mysticalalleycat]

I think something really interesting about TMA vs TMP so far is the different use of suspense, which I actually think "the cake scenes" (as I've started to call them in my head) are really good shorthand for.

In TMA, we spend four seasons very slowly getting the hang of things alongside the protagonists. We take all of that time to slowly understand how the world works, how fucked up it is, and how fucked up it can get. The narrative waits until we have a deep understanding of that (although maybe not entirely complete yet), until the characters and world have hit a new, very deep low. Then it throws us back to the start. It gives us cake scene number one (Jon's birthday) and says "Hey remember how when this started they were all (mostly) happy and just regular people working a kinda weird job and they were all friends and had joy?" And it hurts! Because we know how bad it is now, so the sharp contrast to how it was before it all started hits hard!

TMA's suspense is built on the audience not understanding what's happening alongside the characters, so the depth of tragedy happening to them can only be understood in retrospect.

TMP doesnt rely on TMA entirely, but it's written with the understanding that the majority of its listeners will have listened to TMA. It knows that a lot of the audience may not know exactly what's going on here, but they know the general shape of the world and they know exactly how bad it can get (thanks MAG200).

Because it's writing for (mostly) that audience, TMP doesn't have to write about its tragedy only in retrospect. The suspense comes both from not knowing what's happening (like TMA) and from knowing exactly what's happening while the characters don't (whooo dramatic irony). The audience knows what the fears are and how they can effect the world--Sam and Alice don't.

So TMP's cake scene (Teddy's going away party) happens at the start. "Look at all these people being (mostly) happy and just regular people working a kinda weird job and all being friends and having joy! Doesn't it hurt knowing exactly how bad things could get for them?"

And it does. We are two episodes in and nothing has happened to Alice and Sam, but it's already very clear that we are audience to a tragedy. Even if they don't end up totally fucked, it's clear that their arcs will be tragic.

#the magnus protocol #the magnus archives #tmagp #tma #the magnus protocol spoilers #man im in deep already #you know its good when im writing essays three days after release #but ohhhhhh man we're in for it

[bribinart]

i haven't even gotten to this point of the game yet and i'm already devastated (prints!)

#i'm only (checks watch) 120 hours in and just began act 3........... #also i'm gonna be real with yall idk how i feel about how this turned out dkfjghjfk #but i'm trying to allow myself to just create and not think too much about it!!!! so we're good!!! AAAAAA #my art #baldur's gate 3 #baldur's gate iii #baldur's gate spoilers #astarion #bg3 astarion #astarion spoilers

[a2zillustration]

We got april fool'd so hard.

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#This was pretty accurate to my real life reaction - Larian got me good. #BUT WE'RE NOT DONE YET AND I'M BEGGING YOU TO BLOCK #ansur quest #IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THIS YOURSELF YET AND DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!! #bg3 #baldur's gate 3 #bg3 spoilers #act III spoilers #croissant adventures #tav #wyll #lae'zel #gale #I know they're not really prominent here but- #ansur #comics

[shysquiggles]

"The theories and analysis the GO fandom has started is giving me BBC Sherlock flashbacks."

I agree, but also I find it really funny that back with BBC Sherlock, the theories and analysis was trying to figure out how a man survived/faked his own death. With Good Omens, the fandom are furiously analysing gay yearning looks and a 5 second kiss, while theorising ways that these two dumb gay 6000 year old men are going to make up, make out and hold hands. I love that for us.

#let us gays have this please #we're queer and need to obsess over this iconic moment for as much as we can #good omens #bbc sherlock #good omens spoilers #david tennant #good omens 2 #good omens s2 spoilers #good omens season 2 #sherlock fandom #sherlockbbc #michael sheen

[varyathevillain]

gonna keep thinking about how Gabriel went back to straightening out his posture and a certain booming and superior tone to his voice when he got his memories back... until he looked at Beelzebub. and then he crossed hands over his chest, breathed out, music kicked in... and it's as if a weight fell off him: his whole body became looser and less rigid, his voice turned oh so soft, even his face shown the way we only saw from Amnesiac!Gabriel - open and happy and in love with the world. in this case, his whole world. absolutely fantastic acting from Jon Hamm to convey just how much Gabriel's love for Beelzebub meant to him, how it breaks his shell of official pompousness immediately.

#the system breaks everyone and we need to destroy it and kill Gd right? #Good Omens Season 2 #GO S2 #Good Omens Season 2 spoilers #Good Omens #GO Gabriel #obviously both Gabriel and Beelzebub need to recognise how *they* fucked Aziraphale and Crowley up #and apologise for the behaviour in like. a proper way not expecting forgiveness #but they're in a honeymoon phase i don't think we're prying them off each other for until season 3 for a proper conversation #text post #Varya rambles #Jon Hamm #ineffable bureaucracy #1k #2k

[coccinelle-et-chaton]

When Neil Gaiman said season 2 would be quiet, gentle, and romantic he forgot to add, "for everyone except that pair of bastards, Crowley and Aziraphale."

#season 2 literally said 'and none for the ineffable husbands' ajgkladfjgkd #love that #i love this suffering #is this me going through the five stages of grief? maybe. we're reaching negotiation. #ineffable husbands #good omens #good omens 2 #good omens spoilers