#sherlock adaptations

[inevitably-johnlocked]

Hello Steph! I know you haven't been listening to the new Sherlock podcast but asdfghjkl it's so good! If you join the patreon you can get the transcripts which might be easier to digest?

They also do mailbag episodes and I have been losing my mind at the meta implications and I think you'd like it too. I made a transcript for that since they don't have one on the patreon (and it would feel wrong to publicly post any of their transcripts) and you can see what I mean!

Sherlock loves dinosaurs! John likes Will & Grace! The little interactions between them!

Asdfghjkl I just love your writing and analysis and I think you'd really like this version of them!

https://www.tumblr.com/eardefenders/740431921828544512/sherlock-co-mailbag-episode-1-transcript?source=share

(linked post in ask above)

Hey Lovely!

Ah, thank you so much your appreciation of me and my work, it means so much to me! I don't get many comments these days on my old meta, so it means the world to me that it still holds up to y'all!

I actually have NOT been listening to it, but it has been recced to me. I don't really listen to podcasts (nor podfics, honestly) simply because if it's something new I have to be paying attention 100% or I won't understand what's going on (usually I put on movies and TV shows I've already seen for background noise). It's a weird quirk of mine, always has been. I'll probably listen to it eventually, but I honestly don't have any plans in the near future to, unless Johnlock is canonized.

BUT I have heard it's REALLY GOOD and an interesting modernization that SHOULD be listened to, so here are the links for all of us:

[APPLE PODCASTS] || [SPOTIFY] || [PLAYPODCAST.NET] || [AUDIBLE]

Again, I will inevitably listen to it, I'm sure, and I am a huge supporter of any and all adaptations <3

#steph replies #chatting with lovelies #sherlock and co #podcasts #sherlock adaptations

[disgruntled-detectives]

I finally have polls! And here’s my very first one!

#Sherlock Holmes #Sherlock adaptations #who’s the best? #Jeremy Brett #basil rathbone #the adventures of sherlock holmes #bbc sherlock

[freddos616]

i feel like sherlock and john are literally so gay in every adaptation that i see, but i don't think of them as gay (for each other) in the original work?

#phrased as a question but is a statement #john watson #forgot his name for a sec there #sherlock holmes #acd holmes #arthur conan doyle #been listening to the audiobooks so maybe i accidentally filtered out the gay #only bit i can think of is when (spoilers) sherlock dies #and there was something that reminded me of jekyll and hyde's #“utterson comma my utterson” #which i thought was also pretty gay #sherlock adaptations #freddos orginals

[storytellingdreamer]

Watching Granada Holmes: The Greek Interpreter

This recap has been written in two parts due to a recent holiday. Unfortunate, as the episode itself was a bit of an odd one. 

The pacing feels slower, somehow, for starters. Despite the fact that it’s supposed to be an action/ suspense case, this only shows in particular moments. 

I suppose that suits the story that introduces us Mycroft, though, and I do like it when they get David Burke to read out bits from the canon stories as voiceovers. 

Oh, yeah. So this one’s category goes in the Case for a Friend/ Family category due to Mycroft. 

and due to both him and Sherlock being Holmeses, I’ll be using their first names in the recap more. 

Jumping back a minute, the opening is a good one - very Atmospheric. Gives you the “uh oh, something bad is about to happen” vibes right from the start. 

Creepy Glasses Man (Kemp, I think, but we don’t find that out until later) is Very Creepy. And then poor Mr Kratides is hit over the head! Uh oh indeed. 

Okay, jumping back to Holmes and Watson after Watson’s delightful voiceover... This is a Meet The Family episode. 

Again, coupley. The way it’s framed, with Holmes just dropping it into conversation, and Watson being all like, “I didn’t know you had a brother,” and Holmes’s little “oh yes”, before Holmes feeds Watson some more intriguing information to encourage Watson’s interest then ends with, “I suppose... you want to meet him?” Like that wasn’t your plan all along in bringing him up, Sherlock? :smirks:

When describing Mycroft and his club, Sherlock says, ”it is the oddest club and Mycroft one of the oddest men”. In the original canon, the word used was not ‘oddest’ but ‘queerest’. I suppose the Granada Holmes folk thought the original line might be a bit too obvious...

Watson is so excited to meet Mycroft, it’s lovely. I don’t think you properly prepared him for the silence of the Diogenes Club though, Sherlock. He’s rather befuddled by it all. 

Sherlock’s expression when he first enters the room and sees Mycroft, before anyone has spoken, easily convinces me that they’re brothers. (All down to Jeremy Brett’s microexpressions - the minute twitch of lips and eyebrows conveying a raft of emotion.)

The deductive game is of course amusing - a shame that’s one of the few true deductive scenes we get this episode. At least Watson enjoyed it, even as it turned into another Lesson in deduction for him. 

And then Mr Melas arrived and the rest of the plot got started. 

I do like how they use voiceovers and flashbacks in this episode. They’ve managed that part well. The suspense and fear caused by Kemp and Latimer towards Melas (and poor Kratides) throught the flashbacks and alternative POVs is excellent. The scenes at the house are particularly chilling. 

I like the character of Mr Melas - he is quick-thinking despite his fear, and his realisation of what he can do as interpreter is a good one which he puts to use well. 

As for Mycroft, well. For someone so smart, Mycroft’s blunder with the papers is easy to see. I’m with Sherlock on the wisdom of that idea. And then later, during Mycroft’s visit to 221b, it’s made plain that Sherlock understands the human cost better than Mycroft. (Again, Jeremy Brett’s microexpressions sell Sherlock’s concern in both scenes.)

I enjoyed the part where Sherlock and Watson are discussing the case so far as they walk - it’s another Detective Lesson for Watson, with Sherlock largely stepping back except where needed. 

I like the scene with Melas at his boarding house - if you’re familiar with the genre of story, you know that the gentleman his housekeeper announces is unlikely to be who he says he is. And yet, after the ending of the previous scene, there’s a little hope. Until there isn’t. If only the Holmeses and Watson had been five minutes earlier! 

The juxtaposition of the scenes of Melas, Kratides and captors + Holmeses, Watson and Gregson at Scotland Yard is well done too. Sherlock knows things are no doubt happening yet he’s forced to sit and twiddle his thumbs while they procure a warrant. And he hates it. 

and then bang! The warrant arrives and they are off, with Sherlock’s impassioned words delivered in strident tones by Brett: “And pray that we are not too late!”

Unfortunately, from here, the pacing collapses. We’re at minute 34 of a 50-minute episode, and instead of it being a race to the finish, it’s... well. A bits and pieces stagger. 

The race to the house, discovery of the villains’s flight, and then discovery of Melas and Mr Kratides is good. 

Watson shouting orders to help Melas is great. 

Holmes inspecting rooms was good too... 

And there are some small moments on the train (e.g. the deductive bits, and the way Sherlock introduces himself by introducing Watson) that are fun. 

But the rest is utter codswallop. The  screenwriter for this episode didn’t understand canon Holmes at all - which means the Sherlock you see in this episode is in parts influenced by the fanon Holmes. Read Plaid Adder’s review if you want to hear more details about why it’s just... not right. One imagines the arguments that Jeremy Brett must have had about saying those lines.

If I’d been adapting this for fifty minutes, I think I’d have added more alternate POV/ flashback scenes at the start - like a different writer did in Dancing Men.  This would mean that we would get Sofia Kratides’s story, and it would turn into what it almost was, a Woman in Need plot. In my adaption, Sofia Kratides’s story is tragic love gone wrong, where a young woman is swept off her feet by a dashing young man, only to slowly discover that he’s not as sweet as he appears, and really only wants her money. 

This would then mean that Watson’s “Holmes, they’ve consulted a Bradshaw” line would occur no earlier than minute 45 of the show... instead of minute 37. I would have also stuck a lot closer to canon regarding the ending, because Granada Holmes made a hash of Sofia Kratides’s character, and Sherlock Holmes’s in the process (as mentioned above). In canon, apparently, Kemp and Latimer escaped with Sofia Kratides, and then Holmes and Watson hear some months later that Kemp and Latimer are dead, with H&W assuming that Sofia Kratides must have stabbed them. You could certainly make a desperate train chase out of that, where the abductors escape by the skin of their teeth, leaving Holmes furious and the viewers shocked. Then snap-cut to some months later and have either a Watson voiceover or H&W reading the newspaper explain things. 

There. Fixed it. Glares.

Ugh. Anyway. It’s now well past my bedtime - I wanted to finish this recap so I could move onto the next episode. I’ve been looking forward to that one! Including the next episode, there are four more episodes left in the season. And I am really looking forward to feeling all the feels in the finale... 

But for now, goodnight. 

#granada holmes #the greek interpreter #watching granada holmes #storyteller’s thoughts #sherlock adaptations

[inkonice-main]

The sad thing about BBC Sherlock is that it did have everything to be the most iconic Sherlock Holmes adaptation in a modern setting (I mean, maybe for some it still is) but instead they decided to ruin everything that makes Sherlock Holmes good, and even dared to turn what is probably the most important friendship/partnership in literature into a bowl full of resentment, toxicity and outright violence which is never properly addressed and just leaves you with a bitter taste on the mouth and a wondering of what was it all for. Which is sad because, at least cinematography-wise, it was a treat to watch.

#sherlock holmes #musings #sherlock adaptations #not even using the tag of the show

[iimr3]

*hitting you with a stick* no benoit blanc movies should not interact. they should not lead up to something. you need to detox from the marvel/sherlock bbc poisoning. they should be completely independent movies (maybe w some cameos/little references for fun) and go on for as long as there are stories rian johnson wants to tell in this universe. i do not want an overarching plot i do not want a team up i dont want a benoit-focused prequel i want some good old fashioned episodic murder mysteries that have nothing to do with each other!!!!!!!!!!! also rian johnson has literally said he's not gonna do a prequel and he wants the movies to all stand on their own

addendum 1: by "marvel/sherlock bbc poisoning" i dont mean that those caused this over-serialization, but i think they are partially responsible for why audiences are expecting it. learn to engage w murder mysteries on the genre's own terms

addendum 2: idc what headcanons you have. i actively encourage you to write fanfic about marta and helen solving crime if you wanna. that is literally what fanfiction is for my guy! if you want to know how phillip and benoit met THAT IS WHY FANFIC EXISTS

#op #knives out #glass onion #benoit blanc #tbh yall need to watch murder she wrote or old sherlock adaptations and appreciate self contained mysteries #where u learn a little bit abt the detective thru the mystery but they arent the focus + there is no overarching plot #THAT IS WHY SHERLOCK IS FAMOUS!

[captmuldoon]

“i wish we could see adaptations where sherlock holmes hates the rich and is allowed to be kind to those around him and uses his abilities to support society’s underdogs” elementary was doing this back in 2012. this was only episode 4.

#sherlock holmes #elementary #joan watson #this show had SEVEN SEASONS #and by its 4th episode holmes and watson had more character depth than a lot of adaptations do in their entire run #this holmes is acd holmes plopped into a modern world and it works so well. SO WELL.

[zelamorre]

Doyle Canon: This is Dr. John Watson. He has managed to have multiple love affairs on three different continents. He is a love machine. A sex god, if you will. Able to woo multiple Victorian ladies.

80% of Sherlock Holmes Adaptations: This is Dr. John Watson. He looks like a hamster.

#Sherlock Holmes #john watson #Like it got better with the RDJ Sherlock having Jude Law #And then Sherlock and Elementary kind of followed suit by not derping up Watson (except for that one episode of Sherlock with the mustache) #But poor Watson gets so hard done by so many adaptations

[prokopetz]

Serialised Sherlock Holmes adaptation which meticulously reproduces all of Arthur Conan Doyle's continuity fuckups, at first seemingly out of excessive concern for fidelity to the source material. Eventually, it's revealed that we're actually looking at a pair of extremely similar parallel universes, each with its own almost-but-not-quite-identical Holmes and Watson duo, played by the same actors.

In the back half of the series, a plot by Time-Travelling Omni-Moriarty threatens both universes, obliging the Holmeses and Watsons of each universe to team up with their counterparts to stop him; the particulars of this portion of the story are such that understanding what the hell is going on critically hinges on the audience's ability to keep track of which nearly-identical Holmes or Watson is which.

The ultimate resolution involves outsmarting Moriarty by having the Watson with the war wound in his leg and the Watson with the war wound in his shoulder secretly switch places, deliberately framed in such a way that, as far as the audience can tell, there was no conceivable opportunity for them to have done so.

#concepts #media #literature #sherlock holmes #arthur conan doyle #adaptations #metatextual wankery #injury mention #swearing

[elinordash]

SHERLOCK HOLMES (1984-1994) ♦︎ 40th Anniversary ♦︎

“To me, the Sherlock Holmes stories are about a great friendship. The two men are interdependent; without Watson, Holmes might well have burnt out on cocaine long ago. And Watson leads a pretty dull life, enlivened only by his adventures with Holmes. I hope the series shows how important friendship is.” – Jeremy Brett

#sherlock holmes #sherlockholmesedit #sherlock holmes granada #granada holmes #granadaedit #johnlock #holmes x watson #perioddramaedit #minee #jeremy brett #david burke #edward hardwicke #tvedit #adaptationsdaily #gifshistorical #dailytvfilmgifs #televisiongifs #tvarchive #tvfilmsource #smallscreensource #filmtvdaily #nostalgiatvdaily #filmtvcentral #userisaiah #userkraina #userhallie #usermoon #crowleyanthonys #i haven't watched the last season yet so that's why i didn't include it. also i know i'm a couple of days late shh #forever grateful to this adaptation even if it breaks my heart

[thankstothe]

One liners the sequel

#acontextual house #house md #gregory house #james wilson #thirteen #remy hadley #robert chase #“irene adler” fucking killed me first time I heard it #Wilson you're fucking asshole lmao #now did he made up a name or the Sherlock series existence is canon #but ducklings didn't seem to catch on to the reference so its prob random #or was it losely based on someone real who house knew and who did “win” like irene in sherlock did #the fact that this is wilson (watson) telling (making up) us the story of irene is very neat adaptation move to me #is it even adaptation lol. just a reference I guess #anyway #still i laughed at that line #and whats in the porntitle is “Making room for Daddy's hot bisexual with boyfriend problems.” #ridiculous #applies to them both #long post #longpost

[inevitably-johnlocked]

The other day I watched Mr. Holmes starring Sir Ian McKellen. Then I decided to check out his other works and came across Vicious. Oh isn't it a delight! What is more, for a split second I thought I was watching the retirement life of Sherlock and Watson (BBC), who are still living at Baker St. LOL!

Hey Nonny!

Oh gosh, that's one I really need to see; I think I avoided it because I've been told it ends kind of bittersweet, and sad endings aren't typically my jam these days, LOL.

I've vaguely heard of Vicious, but skimming the Wiki, seems like something I could enjoy! Thank you for suggesting it! I love Ian, so I'm sure I'll have a good time.

#steph replies #chatting with nonnies #sherlock adaptations #mr holmes #vicious #ian mckellen

[genderqueersherlockholmes]

guys... i just need to say it . its really important . sherlock & co is a podcast adaption of the sherlock holmes stories . its not a podcast adaption of bbc sherlock .

#they would get copyrighted to hell and back if it was an adaption of bbc sherlock that literally could not happen #im sorry its just so hard . i see so many people who obviously are looking at the pod through a bbc-pilled lens and that is just not real #you need to heal from your experiences . bbc sherlock never happened . im sorry . you need to wake up #sherlock & co #sherlock and co

[transsexualism]

#*deep inhale* #sherlock holmes #elementary #soviet holmes #granada holmes #the great mouse detective #new russian holmes #enola holmes #theres no point in tagging the rest #polls #.txt #(not including the show that must not be named for obvious reasons and house bc its not technically a holmes adaptation)

[storytellingdreamer]

Granada Holmes thoughts as I watch

I’ve started watching Granada Holmes. For the uninitiated, this is “a TV series of Sherlock Holmes adaptations produced by the British television company Granada Television, between 1984 and 1994″ (more here). I’m two episodes in and I love it so much already. 

If you want to join me, check out the following links! Link one. Link two. 

I figured I might as well put some thoughts down as I go through the episodes, partly as a way of tracking my progress. There are a LOT of episodes after all. These won’t be big reviews - other people have done that. (For example, check out Plaid Adder’s metafic on ao3 here.) No, I’m just doing to do some bits and pieces... starting with A Scandal in Bohemia and The Dancing Men. 

Note: This is my first true exposure to a Sherlock Holmes story or adaptation, though due to what I call “fandom osmosis” I know bits and pieces about some of the narratives. 

Spoilers ahead! 

A Scandal In Bohemia: 

The set up is intriguing

I LOVE Jeremy Brett’s Holmes. 

David Burke as Watson is fun too. 

The King of Bohemia is an annoying prick and I love how they show that, and the different responses of the characters. 

The whole show felt like a bit of a fun romp with all the disguises and performance stuff

Though I did feel sorry for Irene Adler and glad when she got to have her moment. 

The Dancing Men

I love the scene at the start with the deductions and banter; the way they play off each other... credit to the actors because it really feels like (as said in the first ep) they have been living together for some years. 

Holmes and Watson are the best parts of this episode. 

Another example: the part where Holmes shows Watson how to work the code out by giving two clues - using his own silhouette to demonstrate. (Thank you Brett.) 

And then the part where they crack the code on the last message! The synergy of Holmes writing/ Watson watching then the sudden glance of ‘oh hell’ and then skedaddle!

I enjoyed the set up of The Case, but it became tense very fast and that was hard to watch. 

So much could have been prevented if the Cubitts had just bloody talked to each other drat it! 

So much also depended on timing - if Cubitt’s last letter had made the last post, if Holmes had been able to follow through on his thought to get to Derbyshire that night (instead of the morning). 

Again, thank you Brett for Holmes’s quiet & heartfelt shock/sadness combo... I noticed that sheen of almost tears and the “that can’t be right!” look. 

Anyway I need fix-it fic now. 

I will reblog this post with an addition after watching the next episode in my list. 

#granada holmes #watching granada holmes #sherlock adaptations #storyteller’s thoughts

[spooksicl-e]

new year, old john watson doodles^^

#was toying with a few concepts because i think there needs to be more disability representation in media #and every adaptation ignoring john watson’s injuries is gettin on my nerves tbh fr #apologies for any errors regarding the prostheses! #i’m still learning and forequarter amputations can be finicky to find accurate information about #my art #the @ is my insta #i’ll learn how to draw him ONE of these days #art #fanart #fanartist #sherlock #bbc sherlock #sherlock bbc #john watson #sherlock holmes #johnlock #gen #martin freeman #benedict cumberbatch #amputee