#screenwriters industry

[scriptwriters-network]

Creative Writing Challenge – Part 2 –   October

This MONTHLY challenge is for those who want to work on writing new ideas and who would like to maintain a continuous creativity flow with your writing.

Creatively writing short films are a great way to get started/or extend the passion in your career as a writer. A good short film can further help you develop your style and vision using story, drama, dialog, and imagery.

Find out more here.

#creative writing #creative challenge #amwriting #scriptchat #sciptwrting #screenwriting #write #script #scriptwriting classes #screenwriters industry #writers craft #scriptwriters network #screenwriters network #writers of tumblr #writers corner

[poison-into-positivity]

just learned that David Jenkins’ first show, People of Earth, aired for two seasons and was greenlit for a third, and he scripted the entire third season before the network changed its mind and cancelled it. That is fucking maddening actually.

#bit of a personal rant in the tags here: #I went to school for creative writing and graduated last May #and I got that degree because I want to be a screenwriter #im not doing anything in that field rn because it’s SO hard to get into that industry even at an amateur level #but seeing people who are already in the industry like djenks who are also WAY more talented than me #getting constantly sidelined for the sake of corporate greed #it’s just so goddamn disheartening #it makes it hard to even want to *try* to break into that industry anymore #because like. what’s the point #if anything remotely envelope pushing or interesting or original is cancelled prematurely then what’s the fucking point! #anyway. gonna go check out this show I think #people of earth #david jenkins #save ofmd

[vcendent]

art vs industry

Sometimes I'm having a good day, but then sometimes I think about how industry is actively killing creative fields and that goes away. People no longer go to woodworkers for tables and chairs and cabinets, but instead pick from one of hundreds of mass-produced designs made out of cheap particle board instead of paying a carpenter for furniture that is both made to last generations and leaves room for customization. With the growth of population and international trade, the convenience and low production costs are beneficial in some aspects, but how many local craftsmen across the world were put out of business? How many people witnessed their craft die before their eyes? There is no heart or identity put into mass produced items; be it furniture, ceramics, metalwork, or home decor; and at the end of the day everybody ends up with the same, carbon copy stuff in their homes.

I'm a big fan of animated movies, and I see this same thing happening too. When was the last time western audiences saw a new 2D animated movie hit theatres? I can't speak for other countries, but, at least in America, I believe The Princess and the Frog was the last major 2D movie released and that was back in 2009. Major studios nowadays are unwilling to spend the time and money that it would take to pay traditional animators who have spent years honing their craft to go frame by frame, and to pay painters to create scene backgrounds. We talk a lot about machines replacing jobs, but when the machines come, artistry professions are some of the first to be axed (in part because industry does not see artistry as "valuable" professions). Art, music, and writing are no longer seen as "real" jobs because they belong to the creative field and there's this inane idea that anyone who goes into those fields will be unsuccessful and starving. I'm not saying that 3D animation is bad, it has its own merits and required skills and can be just as impressive as anything 2D, but it has smothered 2D animation and reduced it largely to studios that cannot afford the tech to animate 3D.

And now we have this whole AI thing to deal with, stealing existing artists' work to "train" it to take over those few professions that, until now, required actual people to do them. Internet artists have already been dealing with people complaining about the price of art for years and now have to face their work being stolen to train AI. With AI technology, anyone who undervalues the work of the artist can now get something generated at little or no cost to them, all at the expense of the artists themselves. Why would studios pay script writers when they could just get an algorithm to do it without pay? Why pay actors to bring characters to life or pay models to pose for ads when CGI has progressed enough we could digitally render humans and cut out having to pay people entirely? Why use practical effects or film on location when green screens and adding in-post is faster and so much cheaper? It's no wonder we had the SAG-AFTRA strike. AI has already been trained to write children's books and produce music, continuing down this road will replace authors and musicians too at the convenience of cost. How much longer until the actual, real-life people behind all forms of artistry become completely obsolete?

Industry is just driving the cost of people-made crafts up and up with every mass produced product and every streamlined shortcut to reduce costs, which only makes it harder and harder for artists of all kinds to make a living, as very few people want to pay for the time and skill of artists when they could just pick something off a shelf or feed AI a prompt and get something satisfactory enough, yet not what they actually wanted, for so much cheaper.

#this isnt my usual type of post but this genuinely upsets me #my rants #industry is killing creative fields #art #writing #acting #screenwriting #animation #2d animation #3d animation #crafts #ai #ai generation #sag aftra #sag afra strike #pay your writers #pay your artists #pay your craftsmen #support all forms of artistry

[rythyme]

ok the director of Thame - Po: Heart That Skips A Beat is Mui Aticha Tanthanawigrai, who was one of three screenwriters for Girl From Nowhere, a screenwriter / director on F4 Thailand, AND the lead screenwriter and director for The Shipper. a super interesting track record!!

honestly if anyone was going to try to make a more serious boy band bl romance show, i'm glad it's her

#thame po #gmmtv 2024 #heart that skips a beat #i've said it before but i think the shipper is a chronically misunderstood show #i REALLY loved the style and the screenwriting in girl from nowhere #and like it or not f4 thailand was one of the most popular thai shows ever #this woman knows what she's doing #and she's uniquely qualified to (potentially) handle a queer idol industry romance in a nuanced and interesting way #will she? that remains to be seen. but honestly i'm a lot more interested than i was initially now that i know she's directing it

[genericpuff]

Genuinely curious as to if you asked permission to use Rachel’s characters and she said yes or if you just decided Lore Olympus is popular enough to make a fan comic of and are hoping you don’t receive a cease and desist? Can anyone create a remake comic of original content and just change what you don���t like about it and it’s considered legal if you say the characters belong to the original creator? There is plenty of disappointing media out there that could be remade. I understand you cannot use their characters for profit so is just posting it ok?

Yes, anyone can, because it's called fanfiction lmao Obviously in my case the term "fan" is being used loosely here as at this point it's more like "foe"fiction LMAO but the same principles apply. Unless I try to claim LO is my own creation or make a profit off Rekindled, I should be in the clear. If legal action was taken against me then it would set a precedent against all forms of fanfiction, rewrite, redraw, etc. content around LO which are all essentially doing the same thing Rekindled is doing. I think people tend to view Rekindled as somewhat of an "exception" that's vulnerable to legal action because it's an actual weekly comic put into practice in the same playing field as LO (though they're on massively different bases obviously LOL), but there's not much more separating it from the LO redraw accounts or even the genuine fan accounts that have learned how to draw in Rachel's style (and use it to make their own LO self-inserts and whatnot). I had the time and resources and experience to do what I do through Rekindled, but every redraw, rewrite, fanfiction, etc. account are making the exact same statement I am, whether intentionally or not - "I do/don't like the canon, but/so here's what I think it would be like if it went like this".

There is definitely plenty of media out there that could be remade, and a lot of them are by the fanfiction writers out there who are filling that niche within their respective fandoms. LO is the one I want to do because it's the one that interests me and compels me the most to rewrite.

Not to mention, it's already a bold statement in and of itself to say that I'm "using Rachel's characters", a statement that likely wouldn't hold up in court LMAO Her "characters" are literally just stylized self-insert versions of public domain figures. She did not write The Hymn to Demeter. She did not create Hades, or Persephone, or Hecate, or any of the other characters she writes about. She does not own an entire religion or its deities. The only thing that she really "owns" is the licensing rights to the name "Lore Olympus", and while the style of LO is very unique and identifiable, you can't trademark/copyright a style because that uproots the entire foundation of what art is (ironically no one has had an original idea SINCE the Greeks, we all just learn and adapt our styles based on other artists that we get inspired by and learn from).

Shit, there are series completely unrelated to LO that get harassed or otherwise warned that they could cross into "legal territory" with LO just because they're Greek myth comics. Punderworld, Theia Mania, H x P Ficlets, all of these are comics that also tackle the H x P myth, and while they aren't attempting to do the same thing as Rekindled (as they exist on their own terms) it's really disappointing when I see people talk about these comics purely through the scope of Lore Olympus as if LO invented Greek myth. If WT/Rachel tried to pull rank over the story's "characters", they'd be picking a fight with every other Greek myth comic, book, movie, etc. and they oughta know that's not a fight they're gonna win lol

So everything beyond LO's branding is, in and of itself, fanfiction. Rekindled is just another level deeper by being fanfiction of a fanfiction. As long as I'm not profiting off Lore Olympus' namesake or distributing my work with the misconception that I created LO, it's legally fine. Morally, I'm sure it doesn't exactly make me a saint to do it, it definitely took a lot of hubris for me to say "yeah I don't like how you wrote your story enough that I felt the need to rewrite it completely" and I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking doing so is icky. There are certain lines I won't cross - I don't use the general LO hashtags because my content is very critical and my work isn't really for the fans, I don't encourage anyone to "show Rachel" what I do here because none of what I do here is obligated to be seen by her (and I know it wouldn't be in her best interest to see it anyways, she's literally said that she doesn't like criticism so why tf would I wanna show her a comic that exists to criticize her work lol), and I'm not planning on posting it to Webtoons because that's Rachel's territory. I don't want to overstep both in the legal sense and in the moral one. I think it's more than enough for me to just post my stuff here for the people who are seeking it, and not profit off it or directly affiliate it with LO/Rachel beyond crediting.

All that said, in a moral and legal sense, what I'm doing is literally the basis of fanfiction, and I wouldn't be going to such lengths and spending this much time every week putting out episodes every week if I never cared about LO and how it made us all feel, even if some of us don't love it as much as we used to.

#also just as some food for thought and because i couldn't find a place to fit it in the post #sonic mania ended up being one of the best games in the sonic franchise in over a decade and it was made by a sonic fangame dev #a lot of shakespeare's most beloved plays were also 'stolen' from other works #and don't get me started on the screenwriting industry #many of the books they adapt into film are completely rewritten from weaker source material or material that just won't work in movie form #obviously sometimes it's for worse and not better #but rewriting works you're dissatisfied with is an age old tradition IMO #fifty shades of grey exists and it was literally twilight fanfiction when it started LMAO #innovation is found in fandoms #i could just be haphazardly defending myself tho LOL maybe i'm just an asshole #lore olympus critical #lo critical #anti lore olympus #antiloreolympus #ask me anything #ama #anon ama #anon ask me anything #lore rekindled #lore rekindled comic #lore rekindled ama

[dmitrigirl]

deciding to pull out of my mfa i think is one of the best decisions im making ever. i literally felt my blood warm with a calm sea. ive got time but i dont got funds, right now.

#carrotluvr speaks #im so excited to spend more time doing what i love.... building more of a base in a field... #and im moving to my parks gig in four days.... bless #there wasnt happiness with grad school.... just freaking out #i put down my deposit and burst into tears (bad way) #i cant be 25 and 120k in debt with a coin flip of job security after all of this is done #im 23 like girl chill #AND i dont even wanna go into film industry #i dont even KNOW if i want to do screenwriting as a viable career #im a prose writer and scriptwriter YES but im doing that no matter how i pay the bills #i havent broke it to my folks yet but.... i gotta focus on moving

[writingwithfolklore]

Hi, so I saw your post about different film careers and was wondering if you had any info that could help me. I'm two years post grad from film school working random jobs. I haven't found any legitimate ways to break into the industry. I want to screenwrite and eventually direct but I'm also really into production design and sfx make up/costume design as well. I just want to start and it doesn't matter where. Any advice on finding and getting film jobs ?

Hi!

This definitely depends where you are in the world and what the industry looks like in the city you're in, but I'll try my best to answer this.

You may need a specific certificate to work PA jobs depending on where you are, so do a little research into that. If so, definitely invest in the time and however much it costs to get that and start with as many PA jobs as you can get. Sets are always looking for PAs (I even knew someone who walked up to a random set they found filming and asked if they needed any help (They did) that can easily backfire but hey, it worked for them.) it's a good place to start working and get real experience.

While film school is a great start, you may also want to invest in taking courses out of a local union (a local writer's union, sfx, or for directing I'd recommend starting in camera (3rd ac, etc.) These additional courses were highly recommended to us in my film school, and a lot of my classmates went into doing ac work this way.

With the courses, the certificate, and film school, you're probably ready to join said union, and they may be able to help you get jobs or mentor with film industry people. Not everyone joins a union and it's not necessary, but it's an option for you that may help.

There should also be local sites with film job openings that you should be checking often. Don't snub the unpaid ones, everyone in the industry started with unpaid work, unfortunately it's just part of it. You may be able to find these sites/listings through unions or collectives.

When you do get a set job, make a good impression and try to make as many connections as you can. When these people go on to different sets, you want them to recommend you for that role, so make friends and work hard!

I hope that helps! It's difficult and sometimes takes a lot of unpaid jobs to get going, but if you really want to get into film there's always a place for you. I wish you luck!

#film school #film #film industry #screenwriting #directing #ask box #filmmaking #cinematography

[theogonies]

fuck i'm actually getting mad about this. so weird to me that they drummed up so much publicity around henry cavill being a fan of the franchise but hired a behind the scenes team of people who didn't give a shit. hollywood wants to build out these huge cinematic franchises but they're so uninterested in giving opportunities to people who actually have passion about the stories they're telling. the existence of ao3 is proof that it's not hard to find someone who can write a good, creative witcher narrative. or star wars or marvel or middle earth or what have you. the passion is out there and screenplay writing is a skill that can be taught/learned if you're willing to invest but instead production companies keep churning out the same focus grouped garbage scripts from the same nepotism babies wondering why audiences aren't turning out and engaging like they did for the original ips. maybe it's because sapkowski and cdpr actually wanted to, you know, create stories and not *just* cash in on someone else's worldbuilding without doing the work to see what makes it tick. maybe it's because they liked geralt. just a thought.

#i would love to go into screenwriting #but seeing what my mentors in the industry had to do to sell their work was the most blackpilling shit #and it especially stings when it means seeing something with so much potential from a franchise u love go down the drain like this #but anyway. #rant over. #ronan talks #the witcher

[filmcourage]

This Is A Skill That Writers Should Not Ignore - Charla Lauriston

#writing #entertainment industry #screenwriting #screenwriters #scriptwriting #writing advice #pitching #hollywood #writers on tumblr #film and tv #writing tips #writing help #filmmakers on tumblr #screenwriters on tumblr #cinema #script #filmmaking #writer tips #writing resources #movies #film #writing skills

[leighlew3]

Sometimes you write things that you know will likely never make it to air, especially in the current anti-wlw TV climate, but... but you write it anyway. 

And then you hope, that perhaps, someday... maybe... 🤷‍♀️

#screenwriting #tv industry #lgbtq #hollywood #wlw

[scriptwriters-network]

Creative Writing Challenge – Part 2 –   October

This MONTHLY challenge is for those who want to work on writing new ideas and who would like to maintain a continuous creativity flow with your writing.

Creatively writing short films are a great way to get started/or extend the passion in your career as a writer. A good short film can further help you develop your style and vision using story, drama, dialog, and imagery.

Find out more here.

#creative writing #creative challenge #amwriting #scriptwriting #screenwriting #write #script #scriptwriting classes #screenwriters industry #writers craft #scriptwriters network #screenwriters network #writers of tumblr

[liebermintz]

We need more stories about autistic people written by autistic people, especially films. Especially autistic people in non-STEM fields. Especially autistic creatives.

#autism #actually autistic #autistic life #screenwriting #film #film industry #autistic creator

[elliesgaymachete]

Television is so bleak right now, like especially for wlw, but just in general things get pumped out to make some quick money and dropped as soon as they’re no longer profitable and it’s been a problem for YEARS but it feels like it’s been coming to a head this year what with all the wlw shows getting cancelled and the shit show that is the Warner/Discovery merger. Television isn’t given the time and space and pacing to thrive which means stories are rushed & left hanging, and fans & creators are left disappointed. Literally the only people benefitting from this are the rich executives profiting off of it. They’re literally going to wring everything dry until there’s nothing left. I say this with all seriousness but creatives NEED to be in charge of their own stories or the television industry as a whole is going to continue to suffer

#I’m mad about warrior nun but this has been building for a while now #like I went to school for screenwriting with the hopes of being a tv writer #and while I’m not a writer I currently work in television #but like this decline over the last ten years or so has been prominent and the industry is suffering #and A LOT of people who make a living off this shit are going to suffer if things don’t change

[thecandlesticksfromlesmis]

Are you currently a working screenwriter right now? If so what’s that like? And is the salary is enough to live off of, or does one have to get an extra job

I’ve actually ended up as an editor! Editing was the other discipline I was considering going my masters for, but decided my writing skills were the thing I wanted to work on the most. The salary of my editing job is enough to live on and my hours are super flexible!

I’m gonna be real with you—it’s very hard to get a full on job as a tv writer. And I say TV writer because it is actually impossible to get a job as a film writer. You have a little bit of a better chance getting staffed in a writers room for TV, but still it’s a slim chance of that even happening. And then, if you do get staffed, more than likely the show you’d be working on will get cancelled after one or two seasons and then you are completely out of a job. Literally. You have to start from square one again.

It’s a bad time to be a new screenwriter in the industry. Not only do you get treated like shit if you’re a reader or a writers assistant, but they simply to not promote from within anymore. My time getting my masters was super eye opening. I had some pretty shit experiences with professionals who work in the industry. Either they were telling us we’d not make enough to live on for most of our career, or they were super transphobic towards me. I’m not interested in being treated like shit on the off chance my writing might be put on television. Not only that, but the stories I want to write aren’t ones the industry is willing to tell right now.

So anyway, my advice to you is this—

Decide what is the most important thing to you. If you wanna brave the industry on the hope that one day you’ll get to show your work to millions and millions of people, do it. Absolutely go for it. Just know you will have to push through a lot of shit to try and get to that point. When I sat down and had a word with myself about what was the most important thing to me, it was that I had time in my life to create my own projects and stories with people that I love. I was told by some folks who worked in a writers room that by the time they got back home for their crazy work hours, they didn’t want to work on their own stories. That idea honestly broke my heart. I figured out by the time I graduated AFI, that I was not willing to sacrifice my own creative energy for capitalism’s idea of entertainment.

Now just to be clear—I do not regret getting my masters in screenwriting. In fact, I think going to film school is the absolute best way to practice your craft. I am 100x the writer now that I was a few years ago. I got exactly what I needed from school, and that was the confidence to go out and create my own stuff with exactly the people I want to create it with.

#sorry this turned into a rant #I have a lot of feeling about the film industry #and I remember the last time one of the instructors was transphobic towards me #as I was crying in the bathroom #I looked at my ugly ass in the mirror and said #I’m not fucking going through this ever again #the money that is in this industry turns people into absolute monsters istg #filmmaking #film industry #film school #screenwriting

[nightmareinfloral]

you ever think about the future for more than 5 minutes and become like ';|

#cause i wanna be a writer. right? #but everytime i think abt the comics industry i wanna die #cause who tf is even breaking into it anymore #or screenwriting. but also very hard to get into and a degree in it is useless elsewhere #or becoming a novelist- but like cjsheidgcikrufhukigf #also all this requires me to actually be good at writing which is debatable at this point #so now im spiraling tehehe #maybe i should just drop out and go to trade school

[kraniumet]

every single tony scott movie is queer coded. i don't think every action 80s movie is, and i actually don't think rambo is that gay. commando is pretty gay, that is not a new take. as far as queer coded villains go, mark l. lester, who directed it, has spoken openly on it. the lethal weapons movies were written by shane black, who some people (me, for the first time right now) have described as "only ever making homoerotic christmas movies". beverly hills cop 2 was directed by tony scott. the issue isn't top gun having a normie amount of male gaze mistakenable for gay longing, it's people not drawing gay erotic beverly hills cop fanart. so we agree on that.

#top guns visual language is actually quite peculiar #what these movies have in common is not the form the queer coding takes but the propaganda for the usarican military cop industrial complex #we may belive it was just the virulently sexist 80s idolizing the male form when in fact there was 3 or 4 extremely prolific #directors and screenwriters of the era who's art consistently reads “some flavour of closet case”. #very “people thought freddy mercury was straight”-adjacent #and most importantly. ridley scott directed several movies in the 80s and none of them are gay. #blade runner has a gay character (roy batty) but it's not a gay film. so the closest we get is Legend '85. black rain '89 is like a tony #scott movie but without that genuine sprinkle of weird issues #paul verhooven does make gay movies but almost exclusively about lesbians. etc #post shortening nanoha #i don't watch good movies btw not lately