#qphil neg

[qtubbo]

This is genuinely horrible why did he say this? I understand valuing your kids and wanting to defend them, but guilt tripping a child for their feelings is horrible and just a terrible thing to do.

#Im upset he waited till tubbo was away no wonder sunny is terrified of him #This was cruel this isn’t a philism this is just cruel and unexplainable #qsmp #qphil neg #Discourse #video

[chayannesegg]

honestly I think it’s kinda interesting how phil’s relationships with wilbur, tallulah, chayanne & tubbo are all reflecting back into his view of sunny tbh. like he has such complex delicate interwoven dynamics with all of them and it all gets thrown onto sunny, this poor kid who he loves in theory, but in practice is a stranger to him. 

like wilbur left tallulah in phil’s care and didn’t come back. even now way after he was initially supposed to, wilbur hasn’t returned (that one day aside). and phil, who had already taken on a big commitment watching tallulah, has been left permanently with two eggs in his sole care. and even though he loves tallulah and wil, and won’t want them out of his life, this is a stress for him. it’s a big undertaking for anyone, to care for two kids alone, but especially since tallulah required a lot of changes in his life.

for better or worse, in many ways phil sees chayanne as an extension of himself. they’re similar in a lot of ways, and often on the same page, and it means phil often struggles to catch up when chayanne’s emotions aren’t on the same page as him. we’ve seen this week, phil having such a hard time understanding the depth and breadth of chayanne’s grief. when he catches on, he usually does a good job empathising and talking it through, but when he doesn’t, he really doesn’t and it can be hard to watch. 

the same is NOT true for tallulah. he has, through hard work and practice, learnt how to identify her emotions. he had to. she needed it. she would have been miserable otherwise. she desperately needed asked for the emotional care and birthdays and consideration that chayanne would never ask for. and he’s good at it—tracking her moods, knowing what upsets her & what she cares about in a way that doesn’t come as naturally with chayanne (or sunny or tubbo or anyone else really expect maybe wilbur). but that took A LOT of time and effort, months of work, and I do think he’s a bit wary of the idea of having to do that again, even when it comes to people he loves like chayanne (or god forbid tubbo).

now tubbo is not wil. tubbo is not phil's son. but he’s still not dissimilar to wil in phil’s mind. whatever the backstory is, phil introduces tubbo to tallulah as an old friend of him and wil’s. he makes tubbo his kids’ godfather. he calls tubbo his boy. he looks out for him. but past those first few weeks, their relationship doesn’t progress. they mean a lot to each other bc of their pasts, but they don’t put any work into upkeeping their relationship and phil in particular doesn’t reflect at all on what how that changes their dynamic. and it does change it—this is clear in purgatory, with phil having zero trust in tubbo to protect chayanne and tallulah, and after, with tubbo endlessly poking at phil’s sore spots trying to illicit a reaction he’ll never receive. 

it's also clear in the way phil has no understanding of what’s going on with tubbo. if he’s struggling to grasp chay’s emotions, he’s not even touching what’s going on in tubbo’s head. tubbo’s death makes no sense to him. it’s sudden. it’s random. it’s illogical. it’s stupid. he wasn’t joking about having two lives? he still took a death bet with richas? he’s not come back? he can’t come back? he’s left phil with distraught kids for no reason with no warning. he doesn’t see the erratic suicidal behaviour, the unending depression, the desperation to be loved. he doesn’t want to see it. he doesn’t want something to be wrong with tubbo, but he also doesn’t even know how to see what’s wrong. he’s annoyed he’s having to deal with it and he desperately desperately wants to believe this is all happening for no reason.

bc at the forefront of phil’s mind is still his love for tubbo. of course, phil would drop everything to help tubbo (if he could recognize something was wrong). of course, he would care for sunny as his own. of course, he would make the same sacrifices he’s made for wil. and he assumes he’ll have to. he thought that sunny would now be under his care. that he’d have to figure out the logistics of a third egg to care for. with wilbur, phil was the only person who could ever have taken care of tallulah. the only person he trusted, the only person who knew tallulah enough. now this isn’t true for tubbo. it’s a genuinely illogical assumption for phil to make: three eggs would be a genuine burden on him; they've never spoken about it; there’s a long list of people who would tubbo expects for sunny before; and he doesn’t even know sunny well enough to name these people for her as comfort.

but still in the moment, alone with tubbo’s eggs and dealing with everything he left behind, phil can only think that the exact same thing that happened before will happen: he alone will be left to care for another scared hurt kid of someone he loves.

and here we come to sunny. a kid whose dad he loves. a kid whose dad he doesn’t understand. a kid whose dad is suddenly gone like his son is gone. a kid who would need him like his daughter needs him. a kid who his son needs to protect. a kid he cares for. a kid he can’t afford to care for, a kid he wasn’t expecting to care for, a kid he doesn’t know how to care for, a kid he would care for if he needed to, a kid he doesn’t know why he’s been left to care for. a kid who is somehow a reflection of all these people he loves but not someone he knows at all.

idk i think this tension comes out in the a lot of the comments phil makes of and to sunny. he doesn't know them well enough to distinguish them from his relationships with other people. and as long as no one challenges him on that, we'll continue to hear these misplaced comments from him, that come across so insensitively, even as he tries his best to genuinely help them and their dad.

#qsmp #qsmp philza #qsmp sunny #suicide #philza neg #qphil neg #i guess i'll tag out of an abundance of caution even if i don't intend this analysis meanly #that said he is absolutely being unfair to sunny and hurting her bc of this and he doesn't even realize #and won't realize unless someone else talks to him about it #lest sunny just snap at him some day which i do think is what we're currently headed to #fun fact: i intended to do more analysis of his actual comments but it got too long so instead you just get this :) #even tho i think this covers too much in too little time and could reference more canon events lmao #but it's already a behemoth #oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #also nothing is ever going to justify the 'maybe i won't look for your dad as hard' comment fuck him fr for that #cw wilbur soot #won't delete this but warning he's mentioned here

[dozyrogue]

"tubbo isnt here to ruin it"

QPHILZA WHEN I CATCH YOU🔫

ON SIGHT

#qsmp tubbo #qsmp philza #qphil neg

[terezicaptor]

so does anyone remember when Phil said tallulah was allowed to be mean to sunny bc her dad was gone and that she couldn't know what that was like? So is sunny allowed to be mean to everyone now

#txt #Qphil neg #Death threats in my inbox in 3... 2... #Sorry for being bitter all the time but ummmm it would be kinda hypocritical wouldn't it..

[qtubbo-is-not-fine]

I really want Tubbo to have Federation-approved license to kill, so he could kill anyone and have stable money income

#preferably philza so he would shut the fuck up #he cant do create #he can't do deals #he always in the “-rp points” bullshit #shut the fuck uuuuuuup #phil neg #qsmp #qphil neg

[sweetie-peaches]

Qphil infuriates me and you know what. I’m saying it. Fuck it I don’t even care about the hate anons I’m about to get. I don’t like him. Full stop, that’s it.

I maybe would’ve liked him just a bit more if the fandom around him weren’t absolute assholes to literally everyone.

Probably deleting later but fuck it

#peaches posts #qsmp qosts #qsmp neg #fandom neg #qphil neg

[sadtrashking]

please tell more of how Phil is a bad dad to Chay I wanna hear :]

for context here's what i already said

also for clarification, phil isn't a horrible dad he does love chayanne, and while I mention tallulah none of this is on her.

As the post i said this under says he very obviously prioritizes tallulah's emotions, you can see this in how he handled her being called "trauma egg" compared to how he handles chayannes grief and now trauma of tubbo's death. He automatically assumes chayanne can handle whatever happens to him while tallulah is seen as fragile.

sorry there's not much here i forgot what I was gonna say and my brain isn't in a mood for coherent thoughts

#qphil neg #obligatory not about cc phil #also making him flawed is good writing #it would be an insult to make him a perfect little sad boy who can't do wrong #trust me as a tubbling i can go over all of the wrong qtubbo does #also #phil is a 35 year old adult he can handle criticism and negative analysis of his character #remember he called his own dsmp a hypocrite and wrong in his actions

[tibllec]

idk enough about qphil to do a proper analysis but he has been a right prick to sunny since they met, introducing them to Tallulah as "her main trait is stealing things" WITHIN EARSHOT, it's rude and not even true, qphil did not even give sunny a chance and now this with trying scare her or make her feel bad that Tallulah ""has it worse""???? Mate that is a child. Why are you being mean to an actual child.

#qphil neg #absolutely not maintagging this qphil fans scare me #best posts you'll ever see

[itsbebebrainrotting]

Oof phils insisting tubbo still wants to be back cuz he wants to hang out and was only sad cuz he was missing create. He doesnt understand the qtubbo suicidal ideation 💀

#qphil neg #kinda #thats the intent at least

[missycolorful]

I appreciate how open Sunny is with q!Tubbo, but q!Tubbo needs to take a further step by reaching out to others when Sunny has a problem or misunderstanding with others. If she says someone scares her or that she thinks they don't like her, when that's far from the case, then the air has got to be cleared.

And the problem is that the other people don't know; they are not mind readers, they read the room differently, they can't read this person they don't know as well as the people who do know. Tallulah probably has a faint idea, but her distrust is honest and made clear (Though she's gradually softening up). But with someone like q!Philza, this is not the case. He's just being Philza, but Sunny is not used to him and his mannerisms so they can feel like a bit much. But because he hasn't been made aware of any boundaries or whatever that must be made, he's not gonna change anything! Why would he? He's been given no indication that he should be more cautious around Sunny.

So it becomes the responsibility of the parent (cause it shouldn't be the responsibility of the child) to fix things. This is just how parenting is. To reach out and say "hey, Sunny things you're scary/that you guys judge her? maybe you can talk to my kid to fix this." If he doesn't do anything, then the problem is just gonna fester.

#qsmp #tubbo #sunny #this isn't neg toward any of them #if anything this is me saying this in hopes that we can avoid any stupid fucking drama over this #because let's be real if you think qphil is aware of any of this he really fucking isn't kdnjkdgm

[qtubbo]

When will people admit treating an egg differently from other eggs because of the relationship you have with their parent is bad actually, and you need to treat them as their own individual.

#Phil only sees Sunny as Tubbo extension he treats her like a kid but also like their tubbo and have the same relationship #Which means he is consistently meaner to her then he is to other eggs #Phil is genuinely being bad to Sunny and not in a oh thats just how he is way #In a way he should no better because he is actively choosing to treat Sunny #Like they are Tubbo when their not #WHICH IS BAD #not intentionally mean but still bad behavior that needs to be recognized as bad #This is the same and Tubbo and Dapper. Tubbo was being mean to Dapper because he thought Dapper would be comfortable with that #But that was hurtful to Dapper and needed to be recongzied because Tubbo needed to ask in advance before joking like that #Qsmp fandom neg #neg #crit #discourse #qphil neg

[sweet-potato-42]

Just gonna ask why do people view qphil as qtubbos dad or guardian or equivalent?? I know it was a think in the dsmp era i personally dont see it at all and i think they are simply just good friends

This might be just me and i admit i have some bias since i dont really like to watch qphils character and from my perspective if phil is a parent to tubbo then that is terrible. Like as friends its fine but having your parent figure constnalty judge you, never listen to you and never acknowledge it is not good...

#qsmp #qsmp tubbo #qsmp philza #qsmp neg #sort of i am kinda negative about it #as to why i dislike qphil i just enjoy characters that are kinda reckless and chaotic (I was a qfoolsih enjoyer) and philza is the opposite #same reason im not a fan of qbbh but i enjoyed him during purgatory #qtubbo often annoys me as well but i dont mind as much

[tsukana]

not gonna go into it on main but. i have a lot of feelings and thoughts about the way that qbbh has essentially tricked qmissa into believing that he was actually granted access to one of the most protected areas of phil&missa base that has in actuality only been granted security permissions to phil, missa, chayanne, tallulah, and fit.

#qsmp #qsmp lb #qmisa not realising that its something specaial access because hes always been special to qphil and chay and tallulah because hes family an #ofc he has access to their home. #but qbbh HASNT but he implied to qmissa that he was granted access and has access to tallulahs area. but he doesnt. #im lowkey upset at myuself for being salty abt htis bc @me its just cubitos! chill! phil himself would 90% not give a shit! and yet #tsu talks #anyways dont actually take any of this as qbbh neg tho bc i fucking LOVE this funky little block man. #i am just feeling emotions about my main pov <3

[terezicaptor]

genuine question because i’m confused: if q!phil is possessed, that’s quite literally not him, right? i’m wondering if the confusion comes from those who don’t watch philza and don’t see the context of his lore or relationship with his kids, similarly to how people were upset at him for something he said to sunny in an out of context clip, when it was something they were all being silly and laughing about. i’m not meaning to attack anyone, i’m just trying to understand /gen!!

I'm not talking about the enderking when I say phil isn't a great father. Obviously phil yelling at his kids because an evil entity is making him do it is not his fault and he cannot be blamed for what the entity forces him to do.

I'm talking about what normal, non possessed phil does. He has a joking relationship with his kids, yes, but he's also not great at recognizing their social and emotional needs. His kids rarely get to interact with people outside of him, and he's constantly babying tallulah when she doesn't want it and forcing Chay into something of a child soldier role. Chay has talked to Phil about how he feels like he's forced to sacrifice himself for his siblings and phil essentially told him that he's the older brother and he should suck it up because of that.

Also the "out of context" sunny clip was... not out of context. Sunny is always in character. She was not laughing at what phil said or viewing it as silly. Sunny is genuinely afraid of phil. She does not like him at all. Tubbo has offered for her to stay with phil when she's wanted to stay up after him and she told him she'd rather sleep than hang out with him.

Sunny is ALWAYS in character. Btw. She was not at all taking what phil said as a joke because to her it was not a joke. It was just him being mean to her. She was one month old.

And when tubbo died he laughed and then made jokes about adopting sunny... which is a nightmare scenario for her. The only reason sunny stayed with him is because Chay was also taking her father's death seriously and she wanted the comfort of someone who actually cared being there.

Sunny has never had a good impression of phil, godbless.

#asks #anonymous #Qphil neg #Phil neg #Neg #discourse #Also phil is an average father btw. Not a bad thing to necessarily be. But I'm tired of ppl acting like he's a good father #Anyway guys how long until the crow death threats flood in

[masonjarart]

begging q!philza to take his kid literally drowning himself more seriously instead of just brushing it off as a joke like sit down and comfort that child please he is literally screaming at you that he is not okay fit is one of my main povs and ramon does shit like that all the time you can tell the difference between an egg being silly and dramatic vs them being unable to handle big emotions and not knowing how to express it these are children children who have been through very traumatic things and experienced their siblings dieing at a young age they understand death means they will never see that person again and q!tubbo is chayannes best friend and now some weird thing is saying strange things about him and your dad is telling you that he's dead but it will be okay? hows a kid supposed to react to that? someone please hug this child

#qphil crit #idk if its neg? tell me if i should change it at i will lol #idk the way i saw him handling chay vs lullah today annoyed me a bit #like yeah hes a tough kid but he's also a child you know? #also im not saying qfit handles ramons tantrums perfectly but there is deff a difference from him #and how we saw qphil act today #idk the more i think abt it the more I'm interested in thinking abt the diff in their parenting styles with ramon and chay #bc ive always thought of those 2 as very similar #but fit and phil care for them pretty differently #qsmp #qsmp chayanne #tw mention of death #tw self harm #tw suicide #adding these to be safe

[qtubbo-is-not-fine]

"Sunny feelings are valid" okay now say this without laughter, Phil

#qsmp #phil neg #qphil neg