#protestant marriage

[historyofmemes]

News everyone! Greece is now the first Orthodox Christian country to legalize civil same-sex marriage!

The same bill also gives same-sex couples full parental rights!

#lgbt #lgbtq #lgbtqia #greece #queer #we did it gays! we went against the Church's protests and legalized civil gay marriage! #I can now legally marry YOUR MOM HAH gottem

[homielander]

like yeah of course tom thinks shiv is a scorpion because he doesn't know she compromised her position and sacrificed her brother so he wouldn't go to prison. he doesn't know she refused to divulge any information about cruises to gil in season 1 before she was certain tom would walk away unscathed. he doesn't know she shut down her brothers' offer to fire him, doesn't know she ensured he'd have a place in the company post-acquisition, doesn't know that the first time she indelicately interrogated matsson about whether she'd have any power and influence at waystar gojo was literally immediately after matsson brought up the idea of firing tom. and it's her fault he doesn't know that she's protected him at nearly every turn because she won't tell him. and it's looking more likely with every passing episode that he'll never know 😔🔫

#ALSO. i just remembered that he still thinks shiv ratted about the press conference to gerri. lol!!! #tomshiv #tom wambsgans #shiv roy #succession #so glad shiv brought up that HE offered to go to prison cuz ive been saying that..... #like dude u expect ur emotionally unavailable wife to protest the idea of u going to jail when youve just told her it's logistically sound #well yes okay that's reasonable #screams #succession spoilers #EDIT i do not know why anyone is interpreting this post as me blaming tom. what part of 'he doesn't know' did you guys miss #not that he is blameless in the marriage obviously but i think it makes sense that he doesn't believe shiv even cares about him

[queerism1969]

#intersectional feminism #radical feminism #liberal feminism #feminism #patriarchy #intersectionality #incels #child marriage #protesting #activists #bangladesh

[the-busy-ghost]

Alright uninformed rant time. It kind of bugs me that, when studying the Middle Ages, specifically in western Europe, it doesn’t seem to be a pre-requisite that you have to take some kind of “Basics of Mediaeval Catholic Doctrine in Everyday Practise” class. 

Obviously you can’t cover everything- we don’t necessarily need to understand the ins and outs of obscure theological arguments (just as your average mediaeval churchgoer probably didn’t need to), or the inner workings of the Great Schism(s), nor how apparently simple theological disputes could be influenced by political and social factors, and of course the Official Line From The Vatican has changed over the centuries (which is why I’ve seen even modern Catholics getting mixed up about something that happened eight centuries ago). And naturally there are going to be misconceptions no matter how much you try to clarify things for people, and regional/class/temporal variations on how people’s actual everyday beliefs were influenced by the church’s rules. 

But it would help if historians studying the Middle Ages, especially western Christendom, were all given a broadly similar training in a) what the official doctrine was at various points on certain important issues and b) how this might translate to what the average layman believed. Because it feels like you’re supposed to pick that up as you go along and even where there are books on the subject they’re not always entirely reliable either (for example, people citing books about how things worked specifically in England to apply to the whole of Europe) and you can’t ask a book a question if you’re confused about any particular point. 

I mean I don’t expect to be spoonfed but somehow I don’t think that I’m supposed to accumulate a half-assed religious education from, say, a 15th century nobleman who was probably more interested in translating chivalric romances and rebelling against the Crown than religion; an angry 16th century Protestant; a 12th century nun from some forgotten valley in the Alps; some footnotes spread out over half a dozen modern political histories of Scotland; and an episode of ‘In Our Time’ from 2009. 

But equally if you’re not a specialist in church history or theology, I’m not sure that it’s necessary to probe the murky depths of every minor theological point ever, and once you’ve started where does it end? 

Anyway this entirely uninformed rant brought to you by my encounter with a sixteenth century bishop who was supposedly writing a completely orthodox book to re-evangelise his flock and tempt them away from Protestantism, but who described the baptismal rite in a way that sounds decidedly sketchy, if not heretical. And rather than being able to engage with the text properly and get what I needed from it, I was instead left sitting there like:

And frankly I didn’t have the time to go down the rabbit hole that would inevitably open up if I tried to find out

#This is a problem which is magnified in Britain I think as we also have to deal with the Hangover from Protestantism #As seen even in some folk who were raised Catholic but still imbibed certain ideas about the Middle Ages from culturally Protestant schools #And it isn't helped when we're hit with all these popular history tv documentaries #If I have to see one more person whose speciality is writing sensational paperbacks about Henry VIII's court #Being asked to explain for the British public What The Pope Thought I shall scream #Which is not even getting into some of England's super special common law get out clauses #Though having recently listened to some stuff in French I'm beginning to think misconceptions are not limited to Great Britain #Anyway I did take some realy interesting classes at uni on things like marriage and religious orders and so on #But it was definitely patchy and I definitely do not have a good handle on how it all basically hung together #As evidenced by the fact that I've probably made a tonne of mistakes in this post #Books aren't entirely helpful though because you can't ask them questions and sometimes the author is just plain wrong #I mean I will take book recommendations but they are not entirely helpful; and we also haven't all read the same stuff #So one person's idea of what the basics of being baptised involved are going to radically differ from another's based on what they read #Which if you are primarily a political historian interested in the Hundred Years' War doesn't seem important eonugh to quibble over #But it would help if everyone was given some kind of similar introductory training and then they could probe further if needed/wanted #So that one historian's elementary mistake about baptism doesn't affect generations of specialists in the Hundred Years' War #Because they have enough basic knowledge to know that they can just discount that tiny irrelevant bit #This is why seminars are important folks you get to ASK QUESTIONS AND FIGURE OUT BITS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND #And as I say there is a bit of a habit in this country of producing books about say religion in mediaeval England #And then you're expected to work out for yourself which bits you can extrapolate and assume were true outwith England #Or France or Scotland or wherever it may be though the English and the French are particularly bad for assuming #that whatever was true for them was obviously true for everyone else so why should they specify that they're only talking about France #Alright rant over #Beginning to come to the conclusion that nobody knows how Christianity works but would like certain historians to stop pretending they do #Edit: I sort of made up the examples of the historical people who gave me my religious education above #But I'm now enamoured with the idea of who actually did give me my weird ideas about mediaeval Catholicism #Who were my historical godparents so to speak #Do I have an idea of mediaeval religion that was jointly shaped by some professor from the 1970s and a 6th century saint? #Does Cardinal Campeggio know he's responsible for some much later human being's catechism? #Fake examples again but I'm going to be thinking about that today

[alphacrone]

love seeing high school kids organize real protests for actual world issues bc when i was in high school the only time my peers and i managed to actually pull a protest together was when we organized a sit-in to protest the new rule that we weren’t allowed to sit in the hallways during lunch

#we really didn’t have enough cafeteria space for all of us #so sometimes you had to eat in the hall #we liked it but admin didn’t #oh there was also sort of a protest against the #‘no consensual hugging’ rule #but that came more in the guise of hugging people non consensually #very loudly #our vice principal hated that rule he was so exhausted by us #there were real things we could have been protesting #gay marriage wasn’t federal law yet #iraq war was still going on #rick perry shot a coyote with a handgun during his morning jog #and yet. and yet. #this is not to say other teens of the time weren’t protesting. they were #this is about my idiot peers and i #we were not organized

[nerdyqueerandjewish]

Tw sexual abuse, child abuse

The pastor of the church my family went to growing up is weird and homophobic and transphobic and writes letters to the local newspaper about how we gotta ~protect the children~. He started this in the mid to late 00s.

His son in law recently got busted for distributing child pornography and he wrote to the local paper recently about how “actually the best marriages are the ones where people show the most forgiveness to each other uwu”

You cannot make this stuff up. If this was in a piece of media people would complain it was too heavy handed.

#I feel bad for everyone involved but they are making a point to be like ! the marriage is important ! #and it’s like no - fuck that guy! #they aren’t even catholic - Protestants get divorced all the time #child abuse tw

[durn3h]

One of the most interesting things about religion to me is that so many people don’t even see the mental gymnastics they are doing to try and shape the biblical texts into a framework that is acceptable in the modern day and it comes out looking like something that none of the authors would have approved of.

#not to mention that they were written by authors at different times and for different purposes #so they say lots of different things #which makes it easy to pick and choose the interpretation that best matches what you want #like the ‘one man one woman’ definition of marriage that doesn’t exist literally anywhere in the Bible #women were property and men could have as many as they wanted #but then once the Greeks influenced them a bit in the New Testament it says leaders of the church should have one wife #so that means the Bible is against polygamy even though every man in the Bible had multiple wives #or the people that say the Bible is against slavery #even though there is literal chattel slavery described in the Old Testament with commands on how to do it #and in the new testament slaves are told to obey their masters #then they say that they aren’t slaves just servants #which is completely false #it reminds me of how so many Protestants are vehemently against alcohol #so whenever the Bible refers to wine in a good context they say it’s juice #and whenever it’s bad it is wine #even though several different words are used that basically all refer to fermented alcoholic wine #they translate them all differently as needed #like how Jesus said sell all your belongings and give them to the poor #then the Bible tells how literally all of the early Christians sold all their possessions and donated the money #and now people say that just means to be generous #and then don’t even leave a tip at a restaurant because they hate handouts

[withoutaconscienceorafilter]

SCOTUS just handed down a ruling that affects basically 50% of the people in this country and we’re all outraged, distraught, overwhelmed, fearful ... but what are we DOING about it? This affects half of us. And next they’re coming after the LGBTQIA+ who aren’t already in that 50%. What are we DOING about it? I feel like the frog in the pot of hot water, and we’re still just sitting here without moving while things are starting to boil.

If you have a march, an event, a protest idea, an organization, a  mutual aid network, ANYTHING (that won’t get the FBI coming after you directly), please spread it.  We need action.

#politics #abortion #scotus #news #rights #gay rights #queer rights #gay marriage #protest #donate #donations

[fictionadventurer]

💍

#i am never more glad to be catholic than when i hear protestants talk about how people treat single women #i'm sure there are women in catholic circles who get pressure to marry too #but there's a wider understanding that marriage isn't the highest calling #a single woman *could* have a religious vocation #and even if she doesn't family isn't the only thing she can do with her life #we are all called to be saints no matter our station in life #so this makes the marriage obsession among protestants feel very weird and i'm very sorry for you all #and i hope it gets better

[xelidonia]

In honor of Greek Independence Day, here's a conversation that I overheard my grandmother (your average pita-baking, Saints-praising, extremely-devout-Orthodox Greek Yiayia) having over the phone with her cousin:

Yiayia: "...marriage for homosexuals???"

(At this point I start paying attention.)

Yiayia: "But there's always been gays around. And lesbians. Even in the old times."

Guy on the other end of the phone: annoyed arguing

Yiayia: "Yes! Even in back in my village, we had lesbians. Two of them, "male-females" [αρσενοθήλυκες]. One of them was named Marlena, and her mother was our neighbor growing up. A good family! After the earthquake [of 1953], she and her wife moved to Athens. The rest of the family..."

Guy on phone: homophobic old man noises

Yiayia: "Saint Paul doesn't like it? Saint Paul doesn't even like normal marriage! He says all sorts of things, that Saint Paul... Tell me, have you ever read the New Testament in Modern Greek? My daughter got me a copy, with everything modern, and I read it every day, and I understand so much more now. You should try reading the New Testament in Modern Greek sometime. It might help."

#greek posts #modern greek #γιαγιά #greek independence day #25th of march #a barn swallow's diary #context: greece recently legalized gay marriage despite the church's protests #I had no idea my grandma was that tolerant... #probably won't come out to her though. she's one of the relatives whose feelings I actually respect. #and she's got enough to worry about besides my gay ass

[whats-in-a-sentence]

In 1895, at the age of 24, she fell in love with a factory worker, James Sullivan, and since she was opposed to the bridal vow of obedience, they decided to live together without marriage. The night before they moved into their home, her father, brothers and a so-called expert, Dr George Fielding Blandford, interviewed Edith Lanchester and agreed that she was insane.

The doctor issued the certificate giving the cause of her mental illness as 'over-education'. She was handcuffed by her father, and taken, protesting, to an asylum where she was bullied, coerced and assaulted.

"Normal Women: 900 Years of Making History" - Philippa Gregory

#book quotes #normal women #philippa gregory #nonfiction #90s #1890s #19th century #edith lanchester #biddy lanchester #falling in love #factory workers #james sullivan #obedience #wedding vows #marriage #defacto partner #living together #father #brothers #family #expert #doctor #george fielding blandford #interview #insane #mental illness #education #handcuffee #protesting #bullied

[agoddamn]

The fixation on marriage in Jediwank always throws me for a loop because...it's Star Wars! Marriage is just a legal thing, it's not what makes a relationship real. Marriage can certainly provide useful legal protection, but Star Wars is hardly a legal drama. Han and Leia don't spend the OT wondering when they'll get married because marriage simply does not matter that much.

#something something irony that anakin not being able to deny himself marriage resulted in his daughter living on the run #every time i see marriage drama i just wanna go stop being so protestant about this #star wars

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[shirzan140102]

More than 20,000 Iranian Girls under 15 Got Married over Nine-Months

Statistics from Iran show that over 20,000 girls under the age of 15 were married off from the period of (about?) April/May-ish 2022 to January 2023. Aside from the obviously disturbing fact that this is in effect legalized rape of children, I have to wonder how many of these poor young girls will be subjected to a suffocating environment where they will suffer from all kinds of abuse.

In this post, I discussed the tragic story of Mona Heydari, who is an example of a child bride being married off to an abusive husband. Mona was married at 12 and became a mother at 14. She ran away from her abusive husband a few years later and ultimately was brought back to Iran... only to be beheaded at the age of 17 by her husband (presumably as punishment?). The kicker is that the perpetrators of these "honor killings" often do not receive the severe sentence they deserve (i.e., sentences that are typically handed down to murderers). In fact, in Mona's case, her parents, who had signed HER death sentence at age 12, apparently pardoned her husband and, thus, the already short sentence was further reduced to a mere 8 year prison term.

And you know, I cannot help but worry about how many of these 20,000+ new child brides will meet Mona's tragic fate several years down the line. (I obviously hope this isn't the case.) But then again, this is to be expected of a regime that sexualizes girls before they even reach puberty and clearly regards them as objects.

SOURCE

#free iran #freedom for iran #woman life freedom #women life freedom #women's rights #feminism #end child marriages #child marriage #iran protests #iran revolution #and please pray for these poor girls

[vox-anglosphere]

A dramatic pictorial of King Henry VIII's six wives set to period music

#Six Wives of Henry VIII #King Henry VIII #Protestant Reformation #House of Tudor #monarchy #English history #royal marriages #UK #male heir #line of succession #divorce #abuse of power

[four-otters-in-a-trenchcoat]

I can't believe it's been 16 years since the Tilos weddings and we fucking did it gay marriage is legal in greece!!

#for anyone interested in 2008 a mayor in a small island in greece performed two political gay weddings as protest #there was a loophole in the legal definition i think #ok I'll shut up now #gay marriage #lgbt #queer news #valentine's day #greece

[voidsuckers]

it pisses me off when zionists act like israel is some bastion of gay rights and marriage equality when, not only can gay people not get married, but if you're not orthodox you also can't get married (unless you convert to orthodoxy by a rabbi approved by israel)

like, even muslims have greater marriage equality in israel than that

israel is not a safe space for even jewish people

#can you imagine going to israel expecting to be accepted for being jewish and then finding out you can't get married if you're reform #not recognising marriage based on sect is one of the most absurd things i've ever heard of #it would be like if in ireland we just stopped recognising protestant marriages #txt

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