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captainwidowspring · 7 months

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I definitely agree, it really is wild that some people actually think that Nico was some meek innocent victim, or that John's reaction was unreasonable. I guess it's a testament to how effective the show's anti-John-Walker propaganda is, for it is hard to see how else so many people could become convinced of such a clear untruth. Indeed, it's similar to how in Civil War, another propaganda-heavy film, some people actually think Steve was the one who attacked Tony in Siberia, despite the fact that Tony was the sole aggressor. And heck, the efficacy of the anti-John-Walker propaganda is further demonstrated shortly after Nico's death; many people think for some reason that John started the fight for the shield, when it was clearly Bucky, and John literally said "You don't want to do this," when it became clear a fight was imminent. Propaganda is really no joke.

Perhaps the most frustrating thing about people acting like Nico was an innocent victim is the fact that he is particularly guilty. From the way many people talk about Nico, one would think he was a random civilian—indeed, the person cited above actually implies that he was a "defenseless noncombatant"—but he was literally a hostile enemy attacker. Now, @captainpikeachu nicely explained why all the Flagsmashers are blameworthy: "if a group of people lured you and your loved ones to a location just so they could kill you and instead got your loved ones killed, does it really matter who physically did the killing when they’re all there to help?" But Nico was much more involved in what happened than most of the other Flagsmashers were.

First of all, Nico played a very active role in the attempted murder of John. Minutes before the tables were turned, Nico had caught John and held him helpless specifically so that Karli could stab him to death. Nico knew full well what he was doing, and he did it deliberately. So it's not like Nico was just standing around chilling, he was actively trying to cause harm.

And this supposed innocent victim very nearly succeeded in taking John's life. It's a really good thing that John ended up deciding to take the serum—he had been agonizing over whether to do it—because this allowed him to confront the Flagsmashers on a somewhat more even playing field. Otherwise, Nico would have been able to murder John himself; he wouldn't have even needed Karli's help. It was only because John was able to so effectively fight back that Nico had to focus his attention on subduing John instead of being able to immediately go for the kill.

And indeed, the fact that the serum helped make it possible for John to hold out against the Flagsmashers for so long is the only reason that Lemar was able to rescue him, as Lemar saved John at literally the last possible second. It really looked for a moment there like John was a goner; that is why Karli got so mad when she was thwarted. If Lemar had been any slower, or John had been imperiled any sooner, Lemar wouldn't have reached John in time: and John's blood would then have been on Nico's hands, probably literally as well as figuratively. So the serum is a major reason why Nico's attempt to get John killed was unsuccessful, but even with that and the presence of Sam and Bucky, John barely survived the attempt on his life.

And second of all, Nico is also directly responsible for Lemar's death. Many people take Nico's cry of "It wasn't me!" at face value, and accept it as the truth, but it is quite thoroughly false. Nico might not have been the one to strike the killing blow against Lemar, but the fact remains that Lemar would not have been murdered without Nico's contributions. Indeed, Nico's attack on John is the reason why the murder attempt bore any fruit at all, because John had been doing a pretty good job of frustrating the Flagsmashers' assassination attempts before Nico assaulted him. But Nico's assault made John vulnerable, and was instrumental in creating the situation that got Lemar killed: for this was the reason that Lemar was forced to throw himself in harm's way, as well as the reason why John was unable to defend Lemar from Karli's subsequent wrath.

It would have been pretty clear that Nico was culpable in John's murder if Karli had successfully killed him, so it is unclear why people cannot see that Nico is culpable in Lemar's murder simply because the victim changed. While the person who ended up dead wasn't the one Nico had been aiming for, the death still happened as a direct result of his actions.

Thus, it's quite frustrating when people try to demonize John for what he did while absolving Nico, completely ignoring the fact that minutes before the incident Nico had been quite determinedly trying to kill John, and was only narrowly kept from succeeding. And those efforts directly led to Lemar getting killed, which is why Nico's claim of innocence would have been particularly galling. Nico simply received a taste of his own medicine.

So, unsurprisingly, that take which adopts the usual tired view that John is a villain while Nico is innocent is quite thoroughly untrue. For not only was Nico neither defenseless nor surrendering, but also, John did actually have jurisdiction in the situation.

First of all, Nico was far from defenseless. It's really quite maddening when people act like Nico was powerless just because he didn't have a weapon on him, for this is not even close to the case. Again, minutes before, Nico had been able to render John completely helpless—which he accomplished without the aid of any sort of weapon—and Lemar had just been killed, also without a weapon. A video nicely summarized why Nico was not defenseless:

"[W]hy do people act like this is Walker killing someone who’s unarmed?. . .We all saw what Steve and Bucky can do throughout the MCU. They can smash through walls, rip doors off their hinges, hold a helicopter in place, throw people around like ragdolls, and as we saw with Lemar’s death, can literally kill people with a single punch. How can you possibly claim that someone is unarmed when [they can do these things]? What’s to stop [Nico] from breaking out when he has the chance to do so, and continuing to help Karli? Which is exactly what he would do, because as we’ve already discussed, he is surrendering [not really but I'll get to that] because he has literally no other choice, not because he stopped because he felt guilty."

In fact, come to think of it, there is absolutely no reason why Nico could not have just grabbed onto John's shield and held it, instead of simply lying there and getting killed. As we saw, he's just as strong as John, so he would certainly have the strength to keep the shield off his chest: and there was nothing to prevent him from doing this, as he was completely uninjured (unlike John) and his arms and hands were not restricted at all. But of course, if Nico had put up such resistance to John, the show would have a much harder time demonizing John and acting like Nico was harmless. Therefore, they got around this by not showing Nico during the incident.

Not only was Nico not helpless, however, getting mad at John for killing an adversary that he had a momentary advantage over is quite hypocritical, for Sam did something similar earlier in the show. In the middle of the fight at the beginning, Sam blew up a helicopter that still had several unconscious bad guys in it. These people actually were defenseless, as they were out cold, and they no longer posed an immediate threat to Sam. So anyone who is angry at John should be angry at Sam too. But the people who bash John rarely bring this up: for because heroic music was playing, and because the bad guys were unconscious and so unable to scream or beg Sam to spare them, Sam killing enemies who were temporarily disabled is not seen as a bad thing. It's only a problem when John does it, apparently. Such blatant double standards really help demonstrate how influential framing can be.

Second of all, not only was Nico not helpless, but he was also not surrendering. For one thing, while Nico was running, he paused to hurl a concrete trash can at John: so it's not even like he was just fleeing, he was still attacking John as he ran. For another, when John managed to knock Nico over—which took several tries—Nico attempted to get back up not once but twice: once after John initially knocked him over, and then a second time which prompted John to put his foot on Nico's chest in order to keep him down. If Nico was actually interested in surrendering, he would have stayed down the first time, as repeatedly getting back up strongly indicates a desire to keep fighting.

And for yet another, Nico yelling "It wasn't me!" is not in any way indicative of surrender (nor is it even true). That was not an attempt to yield, it was an attempt to convince John that he was attacking the wrong person. (Even though he wasn't, for again, Nico was heavily involved in the attempt on John's life that ended up taking Lemar's, and was in fact the reason it was even possible; he is just as responsible for what happened as Karli.) The only thing that could possibly be considered an effort to surrender is Nico having his hands up: but since prior to that point he staunchly refused to stop fighting—throwing the trash can at John and not staying down—and the words he spoke as he made the gesture were trying to divert John's attention rather than actually surrendering, having his hands up was not enough to cancel out the all the other indications that he didn't want to surrender, especially since it wasn't even clear whether he was trying to surrender or just gesticulating. That is why people who want to surrender often put their hands behind their head, to avoid confusion. Considering how stubbornly Nico was fighting before, if he was yielding he needed to make that abundantly clear, and he didn't, not even close.

Third of all, John did actually have jurisdiction in the scenario; he was literally on a government-sanctioned mission to deal with the Flagsmashers. Handling the Flagsmashers was actually his responsibility, and the reason why he was fighting them in the first place. Indeed, it's not even like the government was mad at John for killing Nico, as that meant one less Flagsmasher for them to deal with; they were mad at him for giving them bad press. That is why they chose to give John an other than honorable discharge, for this meant that they would not have to go through the trial that would be required if they gave him a dishonorable discharge, and risk having unfavorable information come out. Thus, John got no chance to stand up for himself, and instead got quickly swept under the rug. Now, John tried to point out the injustice of the situation—"I only ever did what you asked of me, what you told me to be and trained me to do, and I did it. And I did it well," he said—but of course, the show wasn't done demonizing him, so it just ignored him and cut him off so that he would not get in the way of the attempt to discredit him. But in any case, saying that John didn't have jurisdiction in that scenario is completely untrue, because he absolutely did. Sam and Bucky were the ones who didn't have jurisdiction, and in fact they should have been wanted criminals for breaking Zemo out.

So yeah. The rebuttal to the ridiculous framing of Nico's demise that is shown above is quite accurate. John did not kill "a defenseless guy who was surrendering"; John killed a supersoldier who had just willingly and knowingly attempted to murder him (and succeeded but with the wrong person), and who showed no remorse for what he did, just panic that he didn't have the upper hand anymore. It really is insane how completely the propaganda has twisted many people's views of the situation.

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breckstonevailskier · 8 months

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Honestly, if anyone was out of line here, it's the Dora Milaje for trying to kill Walker and Lemar because Walker touched one of them.

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variant-nightwing16 · 5 months

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John, reading from the QnA box: “what that mouth do” complain, that’s what it do.

Lemar: *wheezing his lungs out*

Bucky: help-

Sam: someone actually asked that?

John: yea, probably some white dude who has too much audacity.

Sam: HA!

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johnmihombre · 1 year

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When John met Olivia this tried to make her laugh to like him but she just thought it was weird Zero evidence but no doubt

( happy 33rd birthday to gabrielle byndloss )

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ex0rin · 11 months

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+bonus feral super soldiers:

#winterwalker #john walker #bucky barnes #wyatt russell #sebastian stan #tfatws #the falcon and the winter soldier #cara gifs #someone take photoshop away from me #i should be writing #john walker tag #bucky tag #ps: this is a pro walker tumblr i will fight #i wanted to slow them down more but then the fight looks especially bad and like they're not hitting each other at all

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connection between wartime administration & federalist-lean?

There's an argument that wartime service and experiencing Congress' failures firsthand as Washington's aide de camp pushed Hamilton further into the ideals that would later be seen as Federalist: a national instead of state outlook, a permanent military power, and a strong, efficient government.

I was wondering if that argument can be applied on a broader scale: is there an overall connection between revolutionary wartime administration and federalist-leaning political beliefs?

I'm by no means qualified but for my own curiosity's sake, I tried to find the political inclinations of former leaders in the war as well as members of Washington's family, who arguably should have seen the same inefficiencies as Hamilton.

Major Generals:

Washington: Tried very hard to be nonpartisan, but pretty federalist when all's said and done. Especially in 2nd term as president and in last years of life Horatio Gates: Supported Jefferson's presidency, so assuming he was leaning Democratic-Republican? Henry Knox: Federalist Philip Schuyler: Federalist William Alexander, Lord Stirling: Not sure John Sullivan: Federalist, led drive in New Hampshire for Constitution's ratification Thomas Mifflin: Federalist according to Wikipedia (was also aide to GW from June to August 1775) Arthur St. Clair: Federalist. Governor of Northwest Territory, removed by Jefferson in 1802 due to political party differences. Benjamin Lincoln: Federalist, strong policies and presence in Massachusetts Thomas Conway: Unreliable source says Federalist William Moultrie: Some sites say Federalist but he had falling out with Washington because of his pro-French actions towards Genet. Possibly nonpartisan.

Washington's family (Aides, Culper, Life Guard. If they died before we can quantify as "Federalist", then not included):

Note: I tried to include length of service and timeline, arguably important (there during Valley Forge or good period?), but it's difficult in consideration of leave and such. Used Wikipedia's dates.

Edmund Randolph (August - November 75): Wiki says Federalist but I know enough about him that he was often the swinging vote in Washington's cabinet, and that he didn't sign the Constitution because he thought it too strong. Tench Tilghman (August 76 - June 80 | June 80 - Nov 83): Died in 1786. I shouldn't include him but raise a glass for our hardworking Tilghman. Robert Harrison (Nov 75 - May 76 | Military Sec May 76 - 81): Died in 1790. Wikipedia says Federalist. John Fitzgerald (Nov 76 - July 78): Couldn't find John Walker (Feb - March 77): Unreliable source says Federalist Samuel Blachley Webb (June 76 - Jan 77): Couldn't find William Grayson (Assistant Sec. July - August 76 | Aide August 76 - Jan 77): Leader of Anti-Federalist faction with Mason, Monroe, etc. died in 1790 Alexander Contee Hanson Sr. (Assistant Sec. June - Sep 76): Federalist according to Wiki Alexander Hamilton (March 77 - April 81): Is this even a question? Stephen Moylan (March 76 - June 76 | Sept. 76 - Jan 77): "Firm Federalist" according to Founders Online James McHenry (May 78 - August 80): Federalist, GW's Secretary of War in 2nd term when cabinet members were much more partisan. Richard Kidder Meade (March 77 - November 80): Couldn't find. I know that he was very close with Hamilton, which makes me think it possible that their politics had some similarities? But entirely speculation. Hodijah Baylies (May 82 - Dec 83): Federalist. According to Founders Online, Gallatin was advised against Baylies because he was a "decided and we believe a sentimental federalist”. David Cobb (June 81 - Jan 83 | June 83 - Dec 83): Wiki says Federalist Peregrine Fitzhugh (July 81 - Oct 81): Not sure if same Peregrine Fitzhugh, but in a letter to Jefferson in 1807, said: "It is true I have been called a Federalist, and feel a pride in being so: but my Federalism is firmed in those principles which dictated the correct and memorable declaration that we were all Federalists all republicans" William Stephens Smith (July 81 - June 82): Federalist (member of Congress as Federalist in 1812) David Humphreys (June 80 - Dec 83): Federalist. He was part of the Hartford Wits and wrote the poem The Anarchiad. "In 1802, Thomas Jefferson...decided to replace Humphreys...Historians speculate that Humphreys's closeness to the Federalist Party motivated Jefferson’s decisions." from Mt. Vernon Richard Varick (Aide & Priv Sec May 81 - Dec 83): Apparently Federalist and later mayor of New York Benjamin Walker (Jan 82 - Dec 83): Federalist, elected to Congress as Federalist

Caleb Gibbs (May 76 - Dec 80): Couldn't find Nathaniel Sackett: Couldn't find Benjamin Tallmadge (1778 - 1783): Federalist, part of minority in Congress during Jefferson & Madison administrations

Other aides who might've had administrative work, although I'm not sure:

Aaron Burr: Very short run with Washington, and Israel Putnam's aide. Technically Democratic-Republican, but some historians have noted his politics did not always align with a party.

James Monroe: Aide to Stirling, Republican-Democratic

Concerns:

First concern: I'm not sure if the other major generals' aides would see as much administrative work directly with Congress as Washington's aides. I'm under the impression that other generals would report to Washington, than Congress, but I'm not sure.

Second concern: I also want to add that other factors would have most definitely played a role, such as familial and economic interests, which may or may not have been influenced by the war. Still, I thought it would be an interesting exercise.

Third concern: A lot of this is very shallow research as I did not have the time or energy to really dig into all of them. Please let me know if there is any inaccurate information (even Federalist or Democratic Republican is a very broad term and I'm sure their beliefs varied).

Please let me know if you see any inaccurate information, or anyone/some branch I did not consider!

#alexander hamilton #george washington #aaron burr #the aides de camp #amrev #amrev fandom #revolutionary war

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betterskatethannever · 4 months

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2023 best of

best parts

Cyrus Bennett - HUF FOREVER / Johnny's Vid / 7 Ball

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ghost-whump · 5 months

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For the Spotify Wrapped ask game - 16! <3

For @writereleaserepeat’s Whumpify Wrapped askgame!

#16. Standing in the Rain - Billy Talent

CW: sexual harassment, past teacher/student relationship, manipulation, mistreatment of sex workers, transphobia-adjacent?, victim blaming, depression, implied drug use, let me know if i’m missing anything!

It started so small.

So small.

Staying after class on Fridays, not to be tutored, just to talk. I think you’re interesting, kid.

Exchanging dark polaroids of questionable taste just not to fail. You trust me with this, don’t you?

Kneeling under a desk while the older man graded homework all the other students did. A+ job down there, kid.

Maybe that’s what started it. All meticulously designed to lead down this path. Just because some science teacher thought he was cute.

Not all of it was bad. Dr. Whumper was kind of hot anyway. And it definitely could have been worse. He could have forced it on him. He could have blackmailed him. Dr. Whumper could have hit and abused him. But he didn’t.

It was Whumpee who came to him. It was Whumpee who offered the arrangement in the first place. It may have been Dr. Whumper who buttered him up and carefully wooed him, but Whumpee could have stopped it.

Casual hookups with Dr. Whumper turned quickly into a scandal in their small town. Empty beer cans lobbed off the back of pick-ups, rocks chipped off sidewalks, and anything else teenage boys could find became a permanent obstacle to be dodged. Pinned against brick walls, TEACHER’S PET WHORE scribbled on his forehead by teenagers he’d never met.

Girls ignored him, boys tormented him, parents hates him, and teachers punished him.

Then one day, the morning after his mother screamed at him for nearly the whole night, he ran away.

January 13th, 1983. The day it ended. His new birthday as well, he’d soon decided.

It was hard for a 15-year-old to survive on his own—he’d known that from the start. But it was laughably easy how many men offered to drive him a few miles in exchange for a quick “payment,” as many liked to call it.

The big city was easier. A new name and casual confidence among the locals became a necessity if he didn’t want to get caught. Sex sold less there, and somehow more at the same time. He could sidle up on anyone and drag them in, but many brushed him off. Typical street-walker, one had called him.

He made his debut in the alleyways and backstreets, mingling with the local prostitutes and semi-frequent addicts. They taught him how to pick up Johns like a pro, always get paid, and never get caught. Invaluable knowledge it seemed, in the line of worked he found himself in.

Dirty needles and tight, red skirts lined his new path. Lost in the high of heroin, LSD, or anything else he could find, things got easy. Yet none of his friends— his new family —understood. Even the older workers looked down at him with pity.

Some let him sleep on their couches, helped him forage, showed him children’s hostels, but it never stayed for long. He’d return to the streets eventually.

Time passed quicker by the day. Soon a few months turned to a year and still, no one had come looking for him. He looked somewhat believably 18 now, a large selling point for him at least.

Old enough to be legal, young enough to be fun.

Then he turned 18 for real a while later. Not much changed. He’d donned a mask of innocence for so many years, it never really wore off. Playing on the bimbo-esque naïvety of his looks reeled in yet more and more clients, he’d never changed the game.

But soon that stopped working. Once he’d started growing hair in strange places and his eyes hollowed of their shine, it didn’t work. A rube, a fake, an act— it wore off.

Bruised feet forced into too-small heels click-click-clicked down the sidewalk, he’d lean over into big cars and bat his lashes. A little man inside, usually some big-shot business man faker than he was, would greet him. Some yelled at him to get in, others were respectful and asked his prices. None saw him as more than an object.

As the years drew on, he’d dread the hum of an engine slowing as it passed. Their eyes would twinkle as they caught him, ensnared him like a fish on a hook, and even though he hated it… at least they still wanted him.

He guessed he did too.

A/N: woah i didn’t expect to write this much!!! i just got carried away and kept going lmao. thanks so much for the ask, i really enjoyed writing this <3

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jmdbjk · 1 year

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White Day, Pt. 2

For our second date of the evening, JK changed into a spiffy crisp white button down and proceeded to fluff and primp his hair for 3 minutes. He hasn’t forgotten all the hair styling tips. Look at him scrunching up the top for some extra fullness. You don’t spend ten years in the stylist’s chair and not learn a few tips about how to manipulate your hair.

Jimin showed up in the comments and JK went off the rails a little bit, trying to show off his wardrobe change and then tried using his smooth lines to make sure Jimin doesn’t wander off ...

Come on Jimin, isn’t it a little late to be playing hard-to-get? COME BACK! PAY ATTENTION!

A commenter said let’s date for 5 minutes and JK said, sure... then he tried to scroll back and find the name of the person so he’d know what to call them... and their name was John Kanya? Did the translator mean Jeon Kanya? HAHAHAHHAAH! Way to go Kanya! One step ahead!

He shared a song that he said Tae really likes and then he tried to search for a song request in the comments. He called Siri a punk because Siri couldn’t understand JK’s pronunciation of “old love.” Bless him...

Oh but when he found it, GOOD JOB whoever requested that song! So dreamy and romantic for our date night with JK!

And yes, he had the music turned up loud and was yelling at us over the music JUST LIKE IF WE WERE ACTUALLY IN THE CLUB! I can see why he enjoys the interaction with us on Weverse live. It really is easy for him to connect with us and have real interactions in real time (as long as Army isn’t behaving like he’s 15 years old again.)

The sweetest thing was he saved these songs to his library AND he practiced speaking English at the same time. Armys did good here. He was having fun.

He reads English very well, and I’m sure he understands 99% of what he hears. Its the pronunciation and conversational vocabulary parts that are tricky.

And then he opened up to us a little bit...

I can see why he ditched Instagram. It’s too fake and impersonal.

Y’all, I started laughing out loud when the next song request came on and the vibe of it made him proclaim he should be drinking whiskey shots and not highballs HAHAHAHAHA! He is a blast. FYI, there are cocktails made with a mixture of whiskeys and they have names like 3 Wisemen (Jack Daniels, Johnnie Walker and Jim Beam) and Four Horsemen (Jim Beam, Jameson, Johnnie Walker, and Jack Daniels). Ugh. I am a whiskey sipper, not a whiskey shooter. And apparently, JK is also NOT a whiskey shooter either. So playful.

And philosophical JK rolled around and he told us he says again and again, he can’t be our #1 priority, that we should prioritize our own lives and whatever obligations we have going on. He said this while putting more of Bam’s eye drops in his eyes and over-dramatically acting like he was crying.

For about the next twenty minutes he tried to get in the mood to sing and then he saw Namjoon in the comments and they had an adorable exchange which ended with JK singing a song that Namjoon suggested.

I wonder if Joon had an ulterior motive behind asking JK to sing a variety of genres...you know our leader is always thinking... regardless, Kookie was having fun.

This goofball... said he was pacing himself as far as drinking because he had to really go to the bathroom. But we would have never known right? His reason: because he is such a pro. LMAO!

Oh! and then Namjoon came back in the comments and told JK to hurry up and release an album! THAT’S RIGHT JOONIE! LIGHT A FIRE UNDER JK’S ASS! And JK said he has a plan...well... from the mouth of the man who said he wasn’t a planner... oh then he elaborates that NOT having a plan is in itself a plan. STOP TRYING TO WORM YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS!

He rambled on and on how he’s not lived with a plan up until now. Kookie-pookie, that’s because you’ve never had to manage your own time before. I think he was being vague in that he really doesn’t have a plan to release anything. He does not have that fire burning in his belly that Jimin, Hobi, Namjoon and Yoongi have. Each of those members have different fires burning. Jungkookie is living up to his free-spirit ways. He is very confident in himself and he has confidence that Army will always love him and he’ll stay on the path that shows him being himself. I said what I said. Or he may drop an album tomorrow. Who knows? We sure don’t.

He really is the opposite of a Gen Z-er. Except for his use of social media. Which is null and void mostly. Typical Gen-Z in that aspect.

He closed our second date of White Day by confiding with us that he had to pee really really bad.

#white day with jungkookie #welcome to JKs jazz bar #this man sitting in his apartment in the dark talking to millions through a tiny screen #i pondered whether to post this because there is no time to hit the pause button and reflect #but i needed to talk about jungkook because he IS important

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Those were some amazing points you made about Walker being needlessly framed as a bad guy by The Falcon and The Winter Soldier's narrative. It definitely is not unlike Wanda and other members of Team Cap being vilified in Civil War. Morally speaking, I'd say the whole act of Walker bludgeoning Nico is similar to Cap using the shield to disable Tony's suit, right down to the fact that they were using force against someone who still very much posed an active threat (Tony being just a bit more obvious an active threat given how he was actively trying to murder Bucky).

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You are definitely right that John using the shield on Nico and Steve using the shield on Tony are both similar in that the shield was being used to subdue an active threat. And funnily enough, another similarity between those two moments is that the shots of Steve and John bringing the shield down on someone below them both served the same purpose: they were both intended to turn the audience against the shield-bearer even though the shield-bearer was not acting unreasonably. This was done by playing up the apparent helplessness of the person who the shield was being used on, despite the fact that both people had come very close to killing their respective shield-bearer, and were still a significant danger to them at the time of the shield's use. Though obviously this manipulation was done with more intensity in John's case, and so was more successful.

Now, due to the fact that Steve and John used the shield in such a similar way, people love to compare the Siberia fight and Nico's death scene: and all too often, people who like Steve but hate John will point to Siberia as an example of why John is not as good a Captain America as Steve. However, the problem with this is that while the actions taken by Steve and John are similar, the circumstances surrounding them are not. Despite the surface-level similarities of the two situations, there are also major differences, so comparing them is really not fair. There are two main reasons why the situations are not directly comparable.

(1) Tony hadn't killed Bucky. He may have blasted Bucky's arm off and then kicked him in the head, but Bucky was still alive, and could recover from this. Thus, while Steve was certainly very angry, he was not filled with the blinding rage and anguish that Bucky's death would have caused.

And we saw how clearly furious Steve was at Tony just injuring Bucky, how it gave him great strength despite his exhaustion and serious injuries: so it's like, if Tony had actually managed to kill Bucky, would Steve have been able to stop at just disabling the suit? If Tony had murdered Bucky and robbed Steve of his best friend, of his longest-running relationship, of the person who had been a heimat (home-place) for as long as he could remember, of the last remaining person who knew Steve before he became Captain America, of the last remaining person who had been with him in the 1940s, after he had literally just gotten all of this back—all while Tony knew full well that Bucky was not to blame for the supposed reason that he had been trying to murder him—would Steve really have been able to control himself enough to spare Tony?

Meanwhile, John had just lost Lemar; Lemar who was his friend who fought beside him, who he trusted with his life, who he probably couldn't imagine his life without, who was one of the few people with whom he could just be John and not Captain America. Unlike Bucky, Lemar wasn't just badly injured, he was completely dead. And Nico might not have been the one to strike the killing blow against Lemar, but he played an active role in the murder, as he is the reason that Lemar had to save John in the first place, and he prevented John from being able to defend Lemar from Karli. So he was definitely not innocent.

Then to add insult to injury, Nico yelled at John, "It wasn't me!" even though he played a major role in Lemar's murder. And Nico being the one to say that would have been particularly insulting to John because he is the one who prevented John from being able to do anything other than watch while Lemar was killed. This is what causes John to lose it and kill him, as if you watch the scene it's clear that John made no move to harm Nico until after he said that. It would be like if Tony killed Bucky and then had the audacity to say, "I didn't mean to!" even though such a claim would be demonstrably not true.

Thus, Steve when he got the upper hand over Tony was not forced to deal with as much emotion as John had to when he got the upper hand over Nico. Tony had merely injured Bucky, not played a part in his murder like Nico had with Lemar, and Tony also did not go on to say something that would salt Steve's wounds, the way Nico did to John when he sought to minimize his role in the incident. So Steve already had a huge advantage over John in that respect.

(2) There was also the fact that Tony is just a normal human. This meant that all Steve had to do was disable the Iron Man suit in order to decisively end the fight. That was obviously not the case for Nico, as since he was a supersoldier, he was just as strong as John and could not so easily be rendered harmless. Indeed, people often seem to conveniently forget that just a few minutes before Nico had been holding John completely helpless, and would have been complicit in his murder had Lemar not stepped in, so Nico was by no means outmatched by John. Perhaps John could have tried to knock Nico out, but if the helicarrier battle in The Winter Soldier is anything to go by, supersoldiers don't remain unconscious for very long. So unlike Tony after his suit had been disabled, even though John had Nico on the ground, Nico was still very much capable of threatening John, and hard to safely neutralize. Despite John's advantageous position, there was no easy way for him to quickly and decisively subdue Nico. And indeed, if Tony was a supersoldier and so disabling the suit did not remove the threat he posed, Siberia would have been a very different story.

What also gave Steve an advantage in the situation was the fact that Tony was wearing a metal suit. This way, Steve had ample opportunity take out his anger on the armor without hurting Tony. Indeed, while Tony and Friday were discussing Steve's fight pattern, Steve appeared to be blindly pummeling Tony rather than actually trying to defeat him. And after Tony kicked Bucky in the head, Steve furiously punched Tony's armor three times before he used his shield to disable it. Considering that his goals at that point were to take off Tony's helmet and break the arc reactor, neither of which could be effectively accomplished by punches, this appears to be a calculated effort by him to release enough of his built-up fury that he could restrain himself enough to spare Tony.

However, there was obviously no equivalent conveniently available way that John could harmlessly take out his rage toward Nico. And it's definitely worth wondering whether Steve would have been able to control his anger as well as he did had he not gotten the chance to let some of it out first.

Therefore, Steve had much less to deal with than John did, as well as a safe way to release some of his anger. This is why trying to use Siberia as an example of why Steve is better than John is disingenuous, because Steve was dealing with much kinder circumstances.

The following would be a much more directly comparable situation. At the beginning of the Siberia fight, when Tony tries to missile Bucky in the face and Bucky turns it aside, the redirected missile causes a section of the building to collapse. Now, a few moments before this, Tony had produced some ankle-cuffs from his suit and put them on Steve. Steve managed to get out of them, though, which was very lucky because he had been in the section of the building that was collapsing.

However, imagine that Steve hadn't in fact been able to get out of the cuffs, and so had been crushed to death by the falling debris. Now, imagine that shortly after this, Bucky managed to get into a position where he had the upper hand over Tony (and for the sake of direct comparison, suppose that his suit was still somewhat functional, so he was still a threat). If Tony then panicked and yelled, "I didn't mean to!" and Bucky then lost it and killed him, would Bucky subsequently be demonized for it?

Honestly, probably, but there are plenty of people who would be able to forgive Bucky for being off-balance from his best friend's death, especially since it would be easy to see why Tony yelling what he did would have caused Bucky to lose it. It would also probably be easy for many people to see that Tony said "I didn't mean to!" because he was afraid of what Bucky would do to him, and not because he wanted to surrender, was actually remorseful about Steve's death, or had even lost his desire to kill Bucky. In addition, while people might be able to extend sympathy toward Tony due to the fact that he most likely didn’t actually mean to kill Steve, this would not obscure his responsibility for Steve’s death. While he might not have intentionally or directly killed Steve, he would still be responsible for the fact that he had been trying to kill Bucky, and this would undermine the sincerity of his claim because he had been aiming to kill, it was just that the wrong person ended up dead.

It is therefore quite frustrating that many people cannot extend the same compassion to John, when that is pretty much the situation he was in. He was just as off-balance as Bucky would have been after his best friend's death—while subsequently being further unbalanced by an insulting half-truth that his adversary uttered—and Nico was just as guilty as Tony would have been. While Nico saying “It wasn’t me!” might have been true in that he wasn’t the one who personally ended Lemar’s life, it was still the case that his attempt to murder John directly contributed to Lemar’s death. And it is clear that Nico was only upset because the person who ended up being killed was not the one he had intended—he would have been quite fine with it if John had perished—and the person he had actually been aiming for had regained the ability to fight back.

And Nico yelling, “It wasn’t me!” was no more an attempt to surrender than Tony’s words would have been. It was just him trying to absolve himself of responsibility for the situation he had helped cause. And his lack of intention to surrender is further demonstrated by the fact that he tries to get back up multiple times. The second time John hits Nico with the shield, he falls over. Nico then tries to get back up, so John hits him with the shield again. He tries to get back up yet again, so finally John puts his foot on Nico's chest to keep him down. It is only then that Nico yells, "It wasn't me!" This is not the behavior of someone who is interested in surrendering, this is the behavior of someone who is terrified that they don't have the upper hand anymore. If Nico had wanted to surrender, he would have stayed down the first time.

If we're looking for an analogous scenario that involves Steve, though, a much more closely comparable situation would be to see how he reacted after he thought Bucky had been killed. And even just a surface-level look at the situations reveals the fandom's hypocrisy. When, after Bucky had supposedly been killed by a member of the terrorist organization he and Steve were fighting, Steve vowed not to stop "until all of Hydra is dead or captured", people had no problem with it, even though only the one Hydra agent was involved in Bucky's apparent death. So Steve doubtlessly killed plenty of Hydra agents who were not even present at Bucky's fall to avenge him, but this was not seen as troublesome. Yet, after Lemar is killed by a member of the terrorist organization he and John were fighting, when John kills one Flagsmasher, who played an active role in Lemar's murder, minutes after he had been forced to watch the murder while being restrained by that same person, he is suddenly completely evil?

In fact, reflecting on Bucky's fall further reveals the fandom hypocrisy, for the Hydra agent is exactly as responsible for Bucky's death as Nico is for Lemar's death. After all, all the Hydra agent did was knock Bucky from the train, which Bucky initially survived because he managed to grab a handlebar. His "death" came when the handlebar gave out before Steve was able to grab him, which is not at all the Hydra agent's fault.

However, if Steve was subsequently shown killing that Hydra agent, even if the Hydra agent tried to deflect the blame and cried out, "I didn't mean for that to happen! I was just following orders!" it is not likely that people would then be all like "Steve is such a monster!!! He killed someone who is not entirely responsible for Bucky's death!!!!!" For while the Hydra agent might not have been the only one responsible for Bucky's "death", he clearly played a major role, and had still been previously been trying to kill Steve.

Indeed, it is pretty obvious how ridiculous trying to defend the Hydra agent would be, so it's baffling that people cannot see how ridiculous it is to try to apply that same argument to Nico. Just as Bucky's fall from the train could not have happened without the Hydra agent, Lemar's murder could not have happened without Nico's contributions. And just like the Hydra agent was previously trying to kill Steve, Nico had previously been engaged in trying to kill John.

Of course, people's lack of willingness to forgive John might be partly caused by the fact that The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was hating on John from the beginning, while neither The First Avenger nor The Winter Soldier (nor The Avengers (2012) or Age of Ultron) extensively hated on Steve. This way, even though there was significant hatred directed toward Steve in Civil War, it was somewhat tempered by the previously balanced portrayals. John unfortunately had no such advantage.

Thus, while it is not hard to see why people are tempted to compare the Siberia scene to Nico's death scene, acting like one is worse than the other is misleading, for they are too different to provide an accurate comparison. More comparable examples can be thought up, and these are very revealing.

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breckstonevailskier · 8 months

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A great video essay showing that really, John Walker’s actions weren’t all that bad. He’s just the victim of unfavorable narrative framing.

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variant-nightwing16 · 5 months

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U.S Agent aka John Walker! :D!

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During The Off-Season, The Old Cincinnati Reds Had Some Curious Side Hustles

It’s coming on World Series time, yet again without the presence of the Cincinnati Reds. As the die-hard fans turn their attention to the hot-stove league or the minutia of their fantasy teams, few give a thought to how today’s players spend the off-season.

In the early 1900s, every professional baseball team enjoyed a post-season romp. The happy few battled it out for World Series honors. But the also-rans kept playing on barnstorming tours, competing with amateur or semi-pro teams for a week or two after the final official game. Once this last hurrah was done, the players scattered to their side hustles.

Not that they needed the money. Rookies earned something like $1,800 in 1900 while stars pulled down $4,000 or more, and those figures translate to $64,000 to $140,000 in today’s dollars. Usually their off-season jobs were an investment in the future, when the pro years ended. Winter jobs were often far removed from the skills required on the diamond.

Reds second baseman Ed Phelps, for example, spent his winters earning a degree in business. Bob Ewing, who pitched for the Reds from 1902 to 1909, scurried home to Wapakoneta each fall to oversee his farm devoted to breeding champion harness-racing horses. Charlie Chech lasted only four years in the majors, pitching in 1905 and 1906 for the Reds, so it’s a good thing he was able to work winters as a pharmacist in St. Paul. Jack Ryder of the Cincinnati Enquirer reported [26 October 1905]:

“Chech is a graduate of the pharmacy department of the University of Wisconsin and is a practical druggist. He has bought an interest in one of the leading drugstores of St. Paul and will spend the winter mixing prescriptions and selling the festive tooth brush, the dry, deceptive sponge and the innocuous drugstore cigar.”

Orval Overall pitched for Cincinnati in 1905 and 1906 and wintered in California, where he helped manage his family’s hotel and fruit ranch. John Barry wandered through Cincinnati twice during a decade in the majors, and spent the off-season coaching football at Niagara University, his alma mater.

Pitcher Tom Walker (1904-05) clerked winters in a Philadelphia clothing store and had a reputation for up-selling hand-me-down suits. According to the Cincinnati Post [2 December 1904]:

“Tom is said to be a wonder, and able to hand out a line of talk about ‘all wool and fast dye’ in a most convincing fashion.”

Miller Huggins was a local boy, who grew up in Walnut Hills and earned a law degree from the University of Cincinnati. After 13 years as a second baseman, he went on to manage the St. Louis Cardinals and the New York Yankees during their glory years in the Twenties. Throughout much of his career, Huggins partnered with Cliff Martin to run a tobacconist’s shop. Per the Enquirer [9 November 1907]:

“Miller Huggins is handling the festive coffin nail, the flagrant ‘two-fer,’ and the lordly ten-center, at his popular smokehouse on Fountain Square.”

Outfielder Fred Odwell’s four years in “The Bigs” were spent in Cincinnati, but his financial future lay in the Empire State. According to the Enquirer:

“Fred Odwell owns a large quarry at his home in Downsville, N.Y., which he superintends during the winter, while his brother looks after the work during the summer. The business is a paying one, and Oddie is well provided for when his ball-playing days are over.”

Apparently, the grass was greener working for Uncle Sam, because Odwell, after a stint as a real estate broker, landed an appointment as postmaster for Downsville.

Hans Lobert logged five years as an infielder for the Reds while he built houses as a carpenter and contractor in Pittsburgh over the winter months. The Reds made something of a fuss about one of their 1907-08 pitchers, Andy Coakley, attending dental school on the East Coast, but it didn’t take. Coakley spent most of his post-playing career running a New York insurance agency while coaching baseball at Columbia University. In that collegiate gig, Coakley discovered a slugger named Lou Gehrig, so he had that going for him.

For a couple of years, the Reds had an actual doctor on the team, but he may not have been much use if a teammate was injured. Doctor Frank “Noodles” Hahn was a veterinarian, specializing in horses and cattle. While pitching for Cincinnati, Hahn enrolled in the Cincinnati Veterinary College. From 1900 until 1919, Cincinnati was home to its very own veterinary school, organized and operated by a consortium of local animal doctors. Noodles did so well in class that he was recruited after graduation to join the faculty of the college and taught there for several years.

A native of Nashville, Hahn confessed that he had no idea how he earned his distinctive nickname, although he had been called “Noodles” since he was a young boy. Hahn landed a pitching spot in the minors when he was just 16 years old and was recruited by the Reds in 1899 before he turned 20. Hahn’s rookie year was one for the record books as he won 23 games while losing only 8, posting a 2.68 ERA. Over seven seasons with the Reds, Hahn racked up 127 wins and 92 losses although he pitched for some decidedly lackluster Cincinnati squads. On 12 July 1900, Hahn hurled a no-hitter against the powerful Philadelphia Phillies and later struck out 16 Boston batters in one game. Problem was, the Reds never ranked higher than fourth in the National League during Hahn’s time in Cincinnati. After several seasons in which he averaged 300 innings, Hahn’s arm gave out. He limped through a half-season with the New York Highlanders, then decided to find another line of work.

It appears that old Noodles could have chosen a couple of careers. The Washington Post [17 June 1906] declared Hahn the best piano player in baseball. There was talk he might have pursued music professionally.

It was large animal veterinary work that finally won out. For a while, Hahn coached and pitched for some semi-pro teams, but he spent decades as a federal meat inspector in Cincinnati. Until he was over 70 years old, Hahn kept a locker at Crosley field. He would visit the ballpark on game day, work out with the team and pitch batting practice, then change back into his business clothes to watch the game. When the Terrace Plaza opened an ice-skating rink on the eighth floor, septuagenarian Noodles Hahn was there, showing off his fancy technique. He died, aged 80, at his retirement home in North Carolina.

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