#my take on Jay i guess

[colorfulmess14]

Getting punched by Nya gave Jay a very familiar feeling.

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#ninjago #ninjago dragons rising #my take on Jay i guess #comic #did i just make thus conic for that one very detailed drawing? #yes #yes i did #lego ninjago jay #ninjago nya #jaya ninjago #fan comic #fan art #artist #black artis #lego #lego fanart #lego ninjago #artists on tumblr #artwork #fanart #digital art #fanartist #art #artist on tumblr #character art #dragon rising #sketches

[givemewallywestorgivemedeath]

Hi, im researching for a fic im writing, and i want to ask if you know whats up with Jai's messed up connection to the speedforce? and also how the fuck do they use the speedforce to get super strength? how does going fast translate into being strong? Do you know what issues to read to learn more about this? like why do Jai (& Jesse?) have super strength, how did they do this? Why did they do this?

So Jesse's strength is a very quick and easy answer so I'll address that first before jumping into Jai's whole thing.

Jesse's mom is Liberty Belle, a hero with super strength. Jesse inherited her father's speed and her mother's super strength. She's just... I don't want to say that she's better at being a speedster but high key she is. Jesse only figured out her super strength recently and it's still pretty touch and go. She used to only have the speed and then that fizzled out and she only had the strength for a bit and then it switched back to just speed again. She seems to have both powers now though and she seems to know how to use them both so fingers crossed 🤞

Jai is a whole different ballgame.

So Irey and Jai were born as fraternal twins. There were two things wrong when they were born.

A) Only Irey was born with a speedforce connection. Jai technically wasn't born with powers at all. Irey had wrapped her speedforce connection around Jai to share her powers but it was significantly damaging to both of them.

and

B) Their shared speedforce connection was tainted with Black Flash energy. (Negative Speedforce)

So let's talk about the Negative Speedforce energy. This is the stuff that turns speedsters into Black Flashes. This is what permanently killed Johnny Quick. One touch of this stuff will obliterate a speedster entirely. It's one of the only ways to permanently kill a speedster because it corrupts their speedforce energy in a way that cannot be undone. So there isn't anything left to bring back.

And this stuff was creeping through the twin's shared connection like a virus. That's what caused their fatal aging disease. Their speedforce connection was so out of wack and their bodies didn't know how to fight off this energy and their metabolisms went into overdrive. Aged them both to 100 within six months. Thankfully Wally figured it out and was able to absorb the Negative Speedforce energy. This cured the twins and deaging them down to five ish (but caused some serious problems for Wally).

Okay so back to point A. Their shared speedforce connection. Irey was sharing her powers with Jai subconsciously and that's why she couldn't run. She didn't have enough energy to. She could only vibrate through stuff. Jai also didn't have enough energy to run but he had other serious issues because he wasn't a speedster like Irey. His body wasn't built to handle that much energy.

As a result Jai had some weird stuff going on. Jai's main power was to hyper accelerate the growth of his muscles. This would give him temporary super strength. I say 'super strength' but realistically Jai on par with extreme weight lifters. He wasn't Superman levels of strong. But, again, Jai's body couldn't handle this so everytime he used his power he had about five minutes until he passed out. Then someone would have to feed him or he'd go into shock.

He also had some other strange things. Like his DNA mutating and devolving when he got stressed. Basically his DNA went 'back in time' and Jai shape shifted a bit. This wasn't something he could control and it was very very very bad.

Irey eventually took her half of the speedforce connection back, which cemented her connection and stopped them both from having seizures. Jai was not happy about no longer having powers. Even less happy about Irey being a child prodigy speedster. Although Irey shared her powers with Jai in emergencies (which gave them both superspeed because Irey had a stronger connection and more skill as she grew older), they couldn't do this without Jai being in extreme pain. Also his seizures coming back.

Now we need to talk about the speedforce surge. The speedforce surge is this insane amount of wild speedforce energy that has to go somewhere or it'll explode the world. It's an overload of energy. To explain the scale of this thing, it caused the mass extinction event that wiped out the dinosaurs.

Wally tracked this dangerous surge down before it destroyed reality and he absorbed it until he could figure out what to do with it.

And...

Well he gave it to Jai.

Jai's speedforce connection is the surge. Jai operates on this untamable wild speedforce energy. So Jai now has A LOT of energy to work with but it doesn't really work the same way typical speedforce energy does. That's why he can't run. (yet at least. can't run yet)

Instead, the surge energy ramps up Jai's friction barrier, healing factor and his metabolism. That doesn't sound like much but hoLY FUCK it's op.

Every speedster has a friction barrier that they generate when they run. It stops their skin from melting off when they reach top speeds, the wind from tearing their bodies apart, bugs from hitting them with the force of bullets, their bones from shattering every time they take a step, ect, ect. Their friction barriers can only do so much (they act as a cushion, they don't make them invulnerable. They won't stop a bullet for example) and they only really work when the speedster is actively running.

Jai put all of his goddamn energy into his friction barrier. The child is literally invulnerable. I'm not even joking. And it's constant too, it doesn't switch off.

Jai's metabolism and his healing factor are why he has super strength. Simply put, Jai has a lot of energy. A LOT. And what doesn't go to his friction barrier, goes to his cells. His healing factor is also amped up and would take care of any muscle tears, fatigue, lactic acid build up, dead cells, ect almost instantaneously. What I'm saying here is that Jai's body is in perfect condition always and he has an unlimited amount of energy for his muscles to use.

Jai has super strength because he doesn't have limits. Jai turned Minecraft from Survival Mode to Creative Mode. He can extend any amount of force without any negative consequences on his body. He uses his strength to do his Thunder clap move which is canonically, at 8 years old, stronger than a Kryptonian's Thunder clap. It's confirmed that Jai is still figuring out how to channel the surge energy correctly, so he's not there yet, but one day he will be stronger than the Kryptonians.

Which is insane.

Honestly Wally is the embodiment of 'I will do anything for my children' because Jai was sad about not having powers so Wally gave him a dangerously unstable energy source (that's killed millions of people) that has the equivalent energy of two stars colliding. AT EIGHT. Wally gave a CHILD this unlimited unchecked power!!

Anyway, father of the goddamn year. I love that man. He would truly do anything for his children and now I'm pretty sure his son can't die so 10/10 decision.

#i mean if he did die he would come back like every other speedster but i genuinely don't think Jai can die like at all #with his healing factor and invulnerability? itd be tough to take him down #dc #dc comics #the flash #kid flash #wally west #impulse #irey west #thunderheart #jai west #surge #jai can't run rn tho at all. no speed at all really. he doesn't have the energy for it! literally all of his energy goes to his body #or his barrier #there is ZERO energy left for speed of any kind #i don't know WHY his speedforce connection prioritizes his health over speed but im guessing it has to do with him not being a speedster #Jai is literally not built for this. my headcanon is that he STILL isn't built for this. so the surge over compensates #EVERYTHING goes into his healing factor barrier and body. to keep him healthy and safe #its overcompensating massively #anyway that part is just a theory #could also be psychological on Jai's part. like he remembers not being built for speed. he remembers his body breaking down #and his friction barrier being almost non existent and the heat and wind ripping into him everytime he ran #it could be that Jai puts everything into his barrier and body to keep himself safe because he remembers what its like on the other side

[onsideramen]

For a lack of better words, my thoughts on dragons rising season 2 part 1 is as follows:

*SHAKING LIKE A DOG HYPED UP ON TEN BARRELS OF ACID, THROTHING AT THE MOUTH, RIPPING APART THE GROUND, SCREAMING, YOWLING EVEN, SOBBING, SETTING THE WORLD ON FIRE, MORE SOBBING*

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#ninjago dragons rising #lego ninjago #dragons rising season 2 #no spoilers here actually!!!! #just my ever rabid thoughts on this show #by the way #I Love Cole #and Jay I guess but Cole #he is everything #Feeing fed #In fact lost my silly goofy mood though #Joyous whimsy is shredded apart #someone please share some of their joyous whimsy with me #needed for the healing process #it takes a little less than 4 hours to binge this season by the way

[daydreamerdisease]

Ok but like how do you all come up with system names? Because I’ve never seen a system name that wasn’t cool as fuck. Feel free to reply/reblog with your system name!

#Jay speaks #not a system myself but this is an observation I’ve had ok #they’re all so cool?? did it come naturally to you or did it take time?? tell meeee #idk if it’s the equivalent of being trans or what but that’s the like the only reference I have?? #it took me FOREVER to come up with a name lmao #dissociative identity disorder #osdd #ossd system #did system #uhhh idk how to tag this cause I don’t want to go into personal spaces?? I guess it could just be for my followers tho?? #let me know if there are better tags! esp for those systems that don’t identify or like medicalizatiob #*medicalization #<<- I spelled that wrong four times jfc

[duusheen]

okay but hear me out: do you think Leif did so well with his daughters because he idolized his mom and adored daphne but jay reminded him too much of his dad and so his resentment and him finally being the one with power in the relationship took over??? like they even sorta named the kid after journey and leif & journey KINDA made up but he never actually really dealt with the impact his dad's alcoholism had on his childhood.

first of all. i love you 😭💖👏🏽 And the short answer is yes! Now, the long answer...

I mean, it's never been a secret that Leif enjoys the company of women. Growing up in a household with two men after losing his mom, it makes some sense. Now, the two most important women in his life have been Lindsay and Daphne, both much more mature than him, who dedicated themselves to taking care of him. Can you see that? Because I see some mommy issues there 🤣🤣 Leif's weakness extends to his daughters, being permissive and understanding.

Now, about "fixing" things with Journey… I guess Leif could never fully forgive him for the alcoholism thing, and Journey knew it, but no matter how many apologies were made, the past couldn't be erased. They both agreed to leave it behind for the sake of the entire family.

As for Jay, he not only reminds Leif of Journey but also of himself. We all saw how difficult it was for Leif to decide to leave college, to fight with his dad during that time in his youth when he didn't know exactly what to do with his life until he took the big step to become a freelance artist. A part of him doesn't want Jay to go through all that and have his dreams crushed, especially since being a musician might be even harder than being an artist. The problem with Leif is that he won't put in enough effort to truly UNDERSTAND Jay. He said no, Jay said yes, and from there it all went downhill lol. It didn't help at all that Jay chose Miracle as his life partner because Leif and Lindsay… yeah, not good. Another person he has hurt and has never apologized to.

In essence, Leif has always lived in a bubble where he's the center of attention, and anything that doesn't go his way, he simply brushes aside. The problem is, now that he's lived long enough, he's realizing that all his decisions have only served to push away the people he cares about. Especially because his fight with Jay somehow affected Daphne and the girls, given that he simply disappeared from everyone's life. But even so, I'm not sure if he knows how to take the step and say "I'm sorry"

#I'm not saying his actions are justified but those following the legacy from the beginning know he has his reasons #Good reasons? Bad reasons? I guess it depends #I like to keep my characters in shades of gray; no one is 100% good or 100% bad. It all depends on perspectives #take Jay for example. I think it's wrong that he disappeared from his entire family's life just because he had some problems with Leif #And now he's moving on as if nothing happened. Eventually he'll have to look back and reckon with his choices #du replies #i just love this kind of asks 😭 #pollock extras

[blujayonthewing]

had the thought 'it might be interesting to also collect a cicada nymph before it can molt and keep it as a wet specimen' and then immediately the concept of a cicada quietly growing underground for thirteen years to finally, finally emerge into the world only to get killed and put in a jar before it ever has a chance to stretch its wings just because some idiot thought it'd be neat nearly made me cry

#'jay aren't you gonna eat them' yeah #it's different #the main reason I stopped collecting insects after DJ and I broke up is that I get Weird about it #it's a weird... like. so vulnerable species notwithstanding #one thing about bugs in an ecosystem is that they're highly abundant and-- on an individual basis-- disposable #they lay a zillion eggs because they're getting eaten (or just stepped on even) by every other goddamn thing alive #in general my sincere belief is that a hobbyist with an insect collection is literally fine #but on a PERSONAL level because I'm not A Scientist and I know my personal desire for an insect collection comes down to 'they're pretty'-- #feels weird. feels bad! feels like a bad reason to kill something even if killing that specific thing isn't measurably harmful to do #same way I feel about people killing spiders when I JUST SAID I would take care of it #like... okay there are a zillion other grass spiders where that came from but YOU are still a dickhead for doing that for no reason #ANYWAY. I'm making a collection exception for magicicadas because 1) okay @me come on there's gonna be a zillion. it's literally fine #and 2) this double emergence feels like such a genuinely big deal to me! first one in ~200 years and there won't be another for ~200 more!! #if I can collect scientifically viable specemins it feels like... there's a point to that #beyond 'I saw a butterfly so pretty I just HAD to kill it 🥰' you know?? #... this has all come a bit tangential to the post I guess lol but... just feels existentially cruel #lots of cicada nymphs are going to get stepped on or eaten before they can molt into adults and I know that but it still just.. makes me sa #they live SO LONG. they've waited SO LONG for this. aahhh... #about me #cicada quest

[cherrysnax]

havin the weirdest crisis of my life

#this is like. did related so im gonna sound completely uh #what’s the word. odd and shit for a sec okay? okay #so I’ve been here. hi im cheri silver yknow me for about 20 years total but jay used to front for years when we were in middle school #im not the. original host I guess but I’ve been around since #we were in the early single digits and never left #so im the host right? I existed to go thru the Trauma #but. it’s been my life for so long. my parents don’t know Her #they’ve only known me #but like. we’re finally starting to let go of that trauma #errr not let go but make peace with it. and we’ve been holding onto it for so long. I’ve been holding on to it for so long #but.. who am I without it? like yes that’s my trauma but also. is my purpose over?? is that why we haven’t been able to draw? #I’ve been the host for 20 years this is my life #my friends my gf my life my hobbies it’s mine not anyone else’s #I let others take the wheel when I can’t (or they forcibly do it for me) and jays been gone for like 3 years he only came back because I’ve #been being traumatized everyday recently. but like. will I have to go too?? #reintergration is not really our goal. never has been but like #if we do. will I be here or will She come back? we’ve had false alarms before but it’s mostly been decided that it’s my front my life #maybe im just triggered all the time and that’s why I feel extra out of it #less myself #New Traumas are happening to us everyday #but yeah. I dont talk abt this aspect of my life much but it’s so scary to think about #I’ll talk to Chevy when they get off of work tomorrow abt it if it’s still like. freaking me out #I am me. we are a bunch of niggas but I am me. #did niggas when the identity disorder makes them dissociate smh #😫

[introspectivememories]

jon kent is so fucking funny. he sees a dictator and is like "is anyone gonna overthrow that?" and then just doesn't wait for answer

#this is so fucking funny #jon 2 hours into the injustice world: hmm maybe it's time to overthrow someone #he has to do it #like the same way babies need a nap every 3 hours #if jon kent doesn't overthrow a dictator every 6 months he will get cranky #if only jay was there. literally would've backed jon up immediately #jon: babe i think my dad here is a dictator #jay already prepping his laptop and costume: say no more. i'm ready #i didn't even have to guess what happens next #i saw the panel where jon figures out that everyone is scared and just #me taking off my glasses and pinching my nose bridge: he's gonna fuckin overthrow injustice supes isn't he? #the text in the corner: 'NEXT: REBELLION' #me sighing tiredly: jesus fucking christ jon. can't take you anywhere #jon kent #dc #aosjk

[dnahelix]

okay, listen to me, LISTEN TO ME *grabs you violently by the shoulders*

we all know that skully mostly (out of what we've seen) takes form of jay—for what reason, we dont know—and ive seen many people draw skully as jay and tim tearing up as he realizes that jay isnt dead. the thing is, he is dead. if anything, hes just a husk of who he used to be, skully isnt him.

so lets say jam is canon for a second, if skully and tim were to ever meet, and skully reveals themselves as jay, tim would probably be incredibly shocked. not only is "jay" wearing a mask like he did before, but he.. sounds different? depending on how tim reacts though, he disregards it, probably extremely relieved that his old friend—his friend that lasted with him up until the very end and he most likely blames himself for his death—is actually alive, and not dead like he thought. by some MIRACLE, hes somehow alive.

but wait, it doesnt make sense. "jay" doesnt let tim touch him, he sounds different, they puts the mask back on before anything can happen. tim is probably confused, and so utterly concerned because it seemed similar to how his behavior was when he was in his masky state, but then skully confesses everything.

and time stops. because jay wasnt alive. nor was brian or alex. they just.. lived? inside them? but they werent actually alive. he feels betrayed, scared almost, because this thing in front of him stole his previous friends faces.

none of them were actually alive.

#ok i honest to god dont know why i made this #but basically my take if skully and tim ever met #i dont think jay and the rest are necessarily dead #but they definitely arent alive either #kind of.. purgatory?? i guess?? #idk how to put it in words #its like they still exist #but they dont actually exist in real life

[feline-evil]

This site barely runs on desktop for me currently, i don't really know whats up but i've seen other people allude to it so it's not just me. It's not having an ad blocker on either which is one thing i tested so. That's fuuuuuun.

#jay talkin #im taking the weekend off to rest b4 big moving stuff next week cuz im so tired. hi #my fucking. chronic pain and fatigue kicking my ass. ive packed nearly everything in my room lol #shits rough but we move!!!! wish i could scroll on my time off but a well guess sites busted #between how hostile and unpleasant twitter is and how busted this site is im kinda just grasping at straws #when it comes to having fun online LMAO which is a shame i like the social part of social media!! #im too exhausted lately to be truly chatty and social but once i get my energy back i wanna be more talkative. its fun

[creepiefarm]

i hate u ppl who took everything jay ever said about tim as Fact

#u were supposed to See and Figure Out that jay is an unreliable narrator struggling w trust and being made extra paranoid/mistrustful bc of #operator sickness. but instead they took it as confirmation that tim is lying and hiding things for Bad Dangerous Reasons #and not like. yknow. his own safety and primary? cuz jay wasn't actually owed any knowledge of tim's personal medical history? #*privacy not primary #tim was not lying about the things ppl say he was (ie not remembering when masky fronts). the few times he did lie was about things that #only affected his own safety and privacy. n i just (bites u bites u bites u bites u) #no one even said anything today i just saw a quote and it made me think about how many ppl just blindly beliehe jay #AND I GET IT! to an extent. i'm bad at unreliable narrators bc Autism. i spent the first season n a half being like ughhhh #i just don't think alex is up to anything good :/ but jay trusts him so i guess! i have to #but that's why mh has entry 59. that's why it has jessica. to make sure You the Viewer r realizing how jay is acting is Not Goof #by that point ur supposed to realize he has a skewed view of everyone around him #n im not saying jay was all bad or that he had bad intentions bc i think he genuinely wanted to help n make sure alex n jessica were ok #i'm just saying i get pissed off when ppl take what he Said as proof that tim was lying n scary and bleh #help these tags are infinitely longer than my post. anyway i gotta get back to farming #creepie.txt

[ahalliance]

sorry still miffed about this . even if you don’t understand that categorisations of race are incredibly nuanced and change depending on the country surely you can take a cursory look at the history of France and Algeria and like . put two and two together . you don’t need to know the intricacies of the subject to do that

#france as an entity discriminates against the people of their ex-colony . wow . what a shocker . who could have guessed #discourse #jay rants #SORRYYYY im not annoyed at anyone in particular just at the general like . unwillingness of people to take a step back and think outside of #their own spaces #there is sooooo much idfk SOOOOO MUCH but you don’t see me commenting on that shit!! BC IM NOT KNOWLEDGE ENOUGH #knowledgeable* sorry my fingies r cold #and if u don’t know it’s a fantastic opportunity to learn!! #see i just looked up the subject again and discovered that algeria was a colony longer than it has Not been a colony! wow ! what the fuck ! #and the boomer xenophobe frenchies get mad about people with algerian heritage in france . literally what did u fucking expect

[bluffmotel]

you know that vine where two waffle house workers are violently fighting each other all while the guy recording is like “can i get a waffle? can i PLEASE get a waffle?” that's jay during the pool scene fight

#my vision is SOUND and true #jay being like can i get a waffle? as tyler's head is smashed into concrete is peak jay holt #he's like okay i guess i need to use my manners ahem can i PLEASE get a waffle? all while vince is drowning horrifically #anyway i am working on other adfaugust prompts but ummm i am slow so take shit posts ❤️

[ne0nwithazero]

One of my goals this year is to become more and more earnest in the things I like and be true to the kind of person I am, whoever that is

Trying to keep myself from mindsets like "Oh, I'm so cringe for liking this for X or Y reason" or "Yeah I like this but I need to show that in an insincere sarcastic way because I somehow convinced myself that that will keep me from getting hurt"

Idk, I feel like I have so much love and passion to give to the world, and it's just a shame to waste it on insecure remarks 😂 At some point it's like I don't really know what personality traits I have because so much of my identity is buried under insecurities and trying to protect myself from people

#Jay Talks #Not really a vent #Just some random thoughts I guess #I have a long way to go in order to fully train my brain out of those thought processes #Specially due to trauma reasons and people antagonizing me over things I liked and how I presented myself #My real friends like me and I think Ive always tried to encourage my closer circle to embrace passion and have no shame for enjoying things #Maybe I should take my own advice lol

[purplecatghostposts]

No context meme based on a new fic/AU idea I have

Jay: It seems you bitches have come to a standstill in the Ark! You have thirteen seconds before I fucking explode you Hot Topic wannabe and you orange gumball son of a bitch. You have done nothing but ruin my life, shut up before we all die again

#marble hornets #this was in my drafts and god I fell in love with this AU again #it’s VERY NOT comic compliant but fuck it I’m making up Ark lore #three guesses who Jay is talking to #(it will not take three guesses) #he is. so very tired and done #fed up with these peoples bullshit #he wants his boyfriend back #very ‘Stop fighting or I will TURN THIS CAR AROUND’ vibe #yes this is based on the sonic fandub audio

[risingsunresistance]

consider me on hiatus for a week unless we get skyblock news or something, i dont feel like being social here

#i'll delete this post if i randomly feel better and change my mind but it's not looking likely rn #i am. i am exhausted #i know i go through ups and downs here a lot but this one is Very Down #the only thing keeping me from privating this blog rn is the thought that i dont want the ppl who hate me to be happier with me gone lmao #new years resolution dont let the haters win 😌 #i cant find a reason to post rn. if you need me i'll be on main o/ #priv i'll be on priv as usual lol #happy new years sorry for being depressed JHDFJ. slash jay i dont guess its that bad #idk something something grief combined with preexisting issues really taking a toll on me overtime and starting to get worse #i dont care enough to analyse it i'll just keep avoiding it till i cave and finally move blogs amen #chat #i say a week bc i know i'll probably feel beter when i get to campus on the weekend #i'll HAVE to show off the AE flag in the window of course