#messianic judaism

[redditantisemitism]

Here’s an interesting one-is this antisemitism? I think so. Let’s discuss:

First, the context. This comment was left on a post containing this meme, poking fun at the messianic “Jews” (they aren’t Jewish) and antisemitic Christians that appropriate Pesach.

Now. This person does make a few correct statements, and I’ll give them credit. They’re right that a lot of Christians and Christianity are antisemitic. But with that out of the way, let’s look at the myriad of ways they’re so very wrong:

I'm not going to pretend to know a lot about Passover

User admits that they are not qualified to be making judgements. As a Christian it isn't their place to tone police Jews anyways, but especially since they admit that they have no idea what they're talking about.

I would refrain from throwing all Christians under the bus

I'm sure they would. That isn't what is happening though, and framing it like this highlights their defensiveness- they aren't trying to have a productive conversation, they just don't like seeing Christianity being portrayed this way. Playing the victim, and not for the last time.

The Catholic church has largely been the main culprit here

Interestingly, there is a Catholic elsewhere in the thread blaming the Protestants. Typical Protestant vs. Catholic stuff, and this user is using it to attempt to distance themself from the "bad" Christians. Also, in my experience, almost every Christian "seder" I've seen or heard of has been held by a Protestant sect of some sort.

it's important to know that all the while the persecution was happening to jews by christians, there have been other christians speaking out against it.

More of the same, see above. "not all Christians!"

Please don't forget about the Christians who are willing to lay down their lives for the Jewish people.

Here's where the fetishization starts. Also, literally nobody asked you to do that, don't use us to feed your martyr complex. Also also, where exactly are these Christians, because they've been doing a shitty job.

Christians like myself are perfectly capable of seeing Yeshua in the Passover without changing it, or preaching to you up and down about it.

And this is where the explicit antisemitism starts, as opposed to the red flags we've been seeing. This person, based on their language, seems to be some sort of "Torah believing Christian"- something inherently appropriative and antisemitic.

Furthermore, YOU SHOULD NOT BE SEEING JESUS IN PASSOVER. That is, at best, idiotic, and at worst, actively antisemitic. It's certainly supercessionist. JEWISH TEXTS DO NOT PROPHESIZE JESUS. Christians should not be touching Pesach uninvited in ANY way, regardless of if they change things or not.

Yeshua didn't change it and neither should we

This person demonstrates an astounding level of ignorance. Any modern Seder would HAVE to be different than any Seder Jesus might have held (assuming he even existed), because it is impossible to do it like him. There is no temple to offer animal sacrifices at, like there would have been at the time. Regardless, not only should Christians not be changing seders, they shouldn't be touching it.

They then rant for a while about how Easter is bad. Which. My dude. That's your holiday. Go fuck around with that and leave Jews alone.

Please have patience and a soft heart for Christians who believe that:

More "not all Christians", this time with an added level of playing the victim. Hard pass.

-Jews don't need to be converted

Even stopped clocks are right twice a day.

-Christians have the holidays and events wrong

Uh? No? Is this some weird Christian intracommunity thing? Your holidays are your holidays, leave ours alone.

-the dietary laws were upheld by yeshua

Regardless of if this is true or not, Jesus was Jewish. This poster isn't. Kosher is for Jews. Christians aren't entitled to Jewish practice just because they worship a Jew.

-all of the torah was upheld by yeshua

see previous bullet point.

-the Jews are the chosen people of God

Typical Christian misunderstanding of "Chosen". "Chosen" to uphold the mitzvot, not to be better, or put on a pedestal. This is another example of how they fetishize Jews, and it does not get better.

-the Jews come first

See previous bullet point. Fetishization like this is disgusting and harmful. It removes humanity and personhood from Jews, instead presenting us as some mystical object of worship that we never claimed to be and can never live up to. We are not a zoo exhibit, we are a vibrant and living culture.

-salvation is of the Jews

See previous bullet point. We are people, not a tool for your salvation.

-the Jews have been entrusted with the words of Yah*weh

See previous bullet point. Also super disrespectful to just throw that name around in Jewish spaces, but I don't know what I expected from an antisemitic, philosemitic Jew fetishist.

-we should be suffering with the Jews, not against them

WE ARE NOT FUEL FOR YOUR MARTYR COMPLEX. Plenty of Jewish suffering would be alleviated if Christians like this person would just leave us alone. But they don't actually want Jewish suffering to stop, because then they'd lose a tool and a way to play victim.

they end with a plea not to lump all Christians together with the "bad" ones- something literally nobody was doing. Once again, it's a lot of "Not all Christians!!!" and their own self-victimhood. They say not all Christians are "like that", which is true. But this one certainly is.

Chag Pesach sameach everybody, and stay off the fuss bus.

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[zionultra]

Things that really confuse me about messianic Jews is why they still bother to have payos or why they wear tallit, kippot, or tzitzit?? Crazy enough I’ve even seen some put on tefillin. The xtian Bible literally says that the laws and “old commandments” of the Torah are done away with in Jesus. So why wear them and follow those Mitzvot ? Secondly, 99% of them are born jews. And probably at least 50% grew up with real, pure Judaism, so how can they think worshiping moshiach is ok ???? If anyone on jumblr is an ex-messianic pls share your experiences and stories ! But please, if you are still in the messianic movement or just a Christian do not interact with this post.

#am yisrael chai #jumblr #judaism #jewish #messianic Judaism #jews #israel

[creature-wizard]

TMW somebody's like "I know all about Judaism because my father was a Messianic Jew!"

...No.

If you knew the first thing about Judaism you'd know that the Messianic movement is just Evangelical Christianity appropriating Jewish culture.

What you are is an antisemitic ignoramus.

#judaism #messianic judaism #antisemitism #christianity #evangelical christianity

[thewayofyehoshua]

His name is Yehoshua

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[rw7771]

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[karryalane]

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[tuviapollack]

The Scapegoat and the Biblical Miracle That’s not in the Bible

The Scapegoat and the Biblical Miracle That’s not in the Bible

I love goats. I think they are the greatest of all times. And I’m so happy we no longer push them down cliffs, as we used to do back when the crimson thread turned white. Oh, you have no idea what I’m talking about? Well, buckle up, because Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, is upon us again. On this day we are fasting for 24 hours, remembering our sins and asking God and people for forgiveness.…

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[msguidedangelann]

THE LION OF JUDAH SHALL ROAR OUT OF ZION!!

( Joel 3:16-17 KJV ) “The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter HIS Voice from Jerusalem; and the Heavens and the Earth shall shake: but the LORD will be  the hope of HIS people, and the strength of the children of Israel. So shall ye know that I AM  the LORD your GOD dwelling in Zion, My Holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be Holy, and there shall no strangers pass through Her any more.”…

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[darknightmaretimemachine]

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[kira-ani-mcgrath]

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[thejewitches]

No antisemitism, bigotry, or proselytization will be accepted. We will be watching closely & utilizing the delete and block buttons as needed.

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Like we say, context is key. Jews have been using fish as protective symbols for centuries…but that isn’t the same as the Jesus fish! Red flags come in varying shades. Always use context & look for more before making assumptions.

Remember: interfaith solidarity doesn’t include coercion, trickery, subterfuge, appropriation & lying.

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[hindahoney]

Let's talk about appropriation of Judaism, and hijacking Jewish history

"According to Halacha, Jews who abandon their Jewishness by choice become 'meshumadim' (An example being messianic "jews" of Jewish ancestry). Though Jewish by lineage, they cannot claim any privilege pertaining to Jewish status. To make it simple: if we don't claim you, you don't get to claim us."

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[thewayofyehoshua]

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[thatjewishzionistscout]

Jewblr, I’m feeling some things.

Okay, so I grew up as a messianic Jew, and I have abandoned the religion, and I’m looking into converting into Judaism, but I just feel conflicted.

My grandparents survived the Shoah, and when they immigrated here my grandmother converted, bringing my grandfather with her. She did it for a sense of comfort and protection,

I grew up inside the messianic church, but I had access to very traditional Jewish traditions thanks to my grandparents. (I.e my grandparents still used a scroll for the Torah, and praying in Hebrew, and much else.)

I was told growing up that I should be proud of my Jewish ethnicity, and that I shouldn’t abandoned it. But talking with other Jews who grew being negatively affected by messianism, it makes me what to abandoned that Judaism. I want to abandon it so that the messianic church can’t continue to harm the Jewish community.

I want to convert to Judaism, for a closer tie to my grandparents and to my ethnicity, but I’m finding it very hard to actually give up beliefs I grew up with,

So any help would be appreciated Jewblr,

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[rw7771]

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[karryalane]

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