#matesprit

[arty-e]

This moment definitely didn’t make me think of a certain romance system in a certain webcomic

Nope not at all

#my art #secret life smp #secret life #secret life fanart #trafficblr #life smp #life series #traffic series #ldshadowlady #zombiecleo #smallishbeans #ldshadowlady fanart #zombiecleo fanart #smallishbeans fanart #mcyt #mcyt fanart #low-key homestuck #kismesis #matesprit #quadrants #fanart #third life

[umbreoncomplex]

quadrant blurring/mixing emojis. f2u

#homestuck #homestuck quadrants #homestuck emoji #matespritship #moirailegiance #kismesitude #auspisticism #matesprit #moirail #kismesis #auspistice

[rainismalyce]

Edits of an autism creature nonverbal communication image for Quadrant romance

Bonus: Flushed Pity Version

#homestuck #quadrant romance #troll romance #matespritship #moirallegiance #moiraillegiance #kismessitude #auspisticism #matesprit #moirail #kismesis #auspistice #autism #autism creature #nonverbal #non verbal #nonverbal communication #reaction image #Kismesisitude #kismesissitude

[tricksterchalcedony]

Quadrant Purring Emotes!

made these since the ones i was using before were made by an abuser of mine, plus i like these better

will be posting a few more sets, and maybe do some requests? let me know if theres a set you'd want!

download the full pack

#tc.art #emoji #custom emoji #discord emoji #homestuck #quadrants #hs quadrants #moirail #kismesis #matesprit #auspistice #homestuck emoji #purring emoji

[poorslaindoll]

@davekatweek day 3: Quadrants

I’m among the group of people who see Dave and Karkat’s relationship as being unofficially in all four quadrants. Like they pretty much just call each other boyfriends because it’s easy, but they interact with each other in all four quadrants more or less. Obviously they bicker and mess around, comfort each other, and act affectionate, but specifically that one scene where Dave made John and Karkat fist bump just came off as SO ashen to me oh my god. So John gets a little cameo :)

#my art #digital art #artists on tumblr #homestuck #homestuck fanart #davekat #davekatweek2023 #davekat week #dave strider #karkat vantas #john egbert #quadrants #matesprit #moirail #auspisticism #kismesis

[doggirldoodles]

> Karkat: become marketable plushie (WIP)

#homestuck art #hs fanart #homestuck #karkat vantas #homestuck karkat #Karkat #katnep #davekat #dave strider #work in progress #art wip #sewing #plushies #custom plush #Moirail #stuffed animals #kismesis #matesprit #auspisticism #karkalicious

[hyenarena]

the only difference between the lego batman movie and holy musical b@man is the character thats obsessed with batman throughout it.

also using homestuck quadrants to define relationships in media is just so right and correct and accurate

also batman is bruce wayne’s fursona.

#batman #lego batman #lego batjokes #batjokes #superman #dc #the lego batman movie #lego batman movie #homestuck #homestuck quadrants #troll romance #quadrants #kismesis #matesprit #i dont know what to say but i know that im right #starkid #holy musical b@man #holy musical batman #brian holden #joe walker #joe walker batman #brian holden superman #batman is bruce waynes fursona #original content #but probably not that original actually #hot take #maybe? #holy musical batman is a love story #and so is the lego batman movie #superbat

[fuckkrat]

LOVEFOOL

#i quess i can consider that as #my art #homestuck #homestuck quadrants #hs quadrants #quadrants #matesprit #kismesis #moirail #auspistice #lovefool

[bluekittyyoyo]

ALTERNIAN CULTURE ANALYSIS: APATHY AS ANTITHESIS. AN ESSAY ON TROLL SOCIETY'S UNDERSTANDING OF EMOTIONS

listen to me. it only makes logical sense that trolls would have a strong understanding of the idea that the opposite of "love" is actually antipathy; having no strong feelings whatsoever. I know what you're saying, "but the quadrants have love and hate as a dichotomy, they clearly think of hate as love's antithesis-" no. wrong. the quadrants are obviously not representative of every emotion a troll can have, the quadrants are a concept of ROMANCE. see there's the keyword here. love and hate are both integral parts of this romance, they do not exist in opposition to each other as in one cancels out the other, they are two sides of the same coin. having quadrant feelings for someone regardless of alignment is indicative of caring about them, of being passionate about them. I know those words typically have purely positive connotations when used about human romantic understandings but disconnect that for a second. basically it comes down to a slightly warped version of "horseshoe theory" (where supposed opposites, in this case love and hate, are actually closer together than the middleground). I think this concept is firmly supported by canon, examples off the top of my head:

from the quadrants explanation;

"The relationships each quadrant describes tend to be malleable, if not volatile,"

as stated with the pitched/flushed vacillation and the canon examples of pale/flushed, but also I think it is implied (though less so) that it applies to every quadrant and there are many ways unexplored in canon that every quadrant can bleed into another.

this famous line:

"It should be noted that in troll language, the word for friend is exactly the same as the word for enemy."

this quote being on the page where equius pesters gamzee, citing that he does so with regularity and thus considers him a "friend" (but that's not the whole picture). this adds to the notion of these relationships not being considered opposite but stemming from the same root idea of investment in a person.

I think it's very interesting because I believe the authorial intentions of incorporating hate as an integral part of troll society and culture is meant to contribute to the idea of them as a cruel and violent society, and while that may have some truth for the ways in which individuals treat each other peer-to-peer in average situations I actually think the real overarching effect it has is trolls coming off as a more emotionally honest society at the cost of simplicity and peace.

the implications of hate being considered on equal terms with love to me paint an image of a society that encourages embracing all emotions to the fullest extent, a society that might even consider the worst thing you can be not as someone who is filled with hate but in fact someone who does not care at all. I'm reminded of the conversation between vriska and aradia in hivebent:

vriska calling her a "miserable soulless witch" followed by repeating she hates her and "only regrets killing her cause it made her so BORING!!!!!!!!"

of course we also see plenty of times that "not giving a shit" is a thing that trolls are naturally inclined to do because you only have so much emotional resource to devote to a finite amount of things. moreover that alternia is a society that encourages emotional "balance", to embrace the love and the hate both with the same passion.

again as karkat rants to vriska also in hivebent:

"A WELL BALANCED PERSON IS GOING TO HAVE A GOOD DISTRIBUTION BETWEEN HATE AND THE VARIOUS PITY HUMORS."

you may also recognize this conversation as the same one where karkat claims this (rather infamously imo):

"PITY IS OF COURSE JUST THE TONED DOWN VERSION OF THE CENTRAL EMOTION, HATE."

(adding more to the "trolls believe hate and love come from the same emotional source" pile even if the manner of it is slightly off-center here)

and vriska's response to karkat's ranting:

"Did you learn this crap from your awful romance movies?" "THEY'RE REALLY INTRIGUING SOCIOLOGICALLY."

I hope this presentation makes it clear but for the audience in the back: karkat's interpretation of emotional composition of trolls is most likely complete bullshit and not at all factual nor, in my opinion, should be taken as biological information about trolls. for that reason I believe the reference to humoral medicine is completely intentional, invoking the imagerey of bullshit pseudoscience. just in the same way as I don't think it would be reasonable to make any similar claim about the nature of human emotions (and anyone who does is trying to sell you something). in A6A615 dave even states that "both humans and trolls are emotionally versatile sentient beings that can feel many hells of different things".

what I'm mainly getting at here using these quotes is that there is a cultural precedent for the claims he is making. karkat did not spawn these ideas about emotions out of thin air or scientific research, he got them from watching romance films. which particularly, as presumably low-culture media in much the same fashion as our own, would in fact make them excellent case studies on the general cultural attitudes of the society that consumes them. and that society, as karkat observes, makes indications that a) emotions of hate and love stem from the same source and b) trolls ought to have a balance of negative and positive emotions, where apathy is considered more undesirable.

so what I mean to say from all these observations, my formal opinion: to trolls there can exist this nebulous feeling of being emotionally attachment to someone, to desire any kind of relationship with them. and with that the average troll has a far better understanding that the most devastating response possible is actually none at all; to be completely unaffected by them.

so what am I saying with all this? it is my idea that in troll culture, trolls have a concept of relationships and emotions that can exist as a nebulous idea of just being *passionate*, of caring about something or someone and the distinction between negative or positive is merely a nuance rather than an opposition, and the actual socially reviled opposition to this feeling is being apathetic.

for example a troll rejecting another for a particular desired quadrant is heartbreaking (or diamondbreaking, spadesbreaking etc), but as there exists a desire for connection generally by virtue of the desire at all, it would be less devastating and possibly could become just as fulfilling for the connection to exist as a different quadrant, even on the other side of red/black. the most devastating possible outcome of a rejection would be that of total apathy, of the idea that one inspires no passions, no emotions of any kind in a person.

and with that established now we can get into my ideas about how alternian media rating systems work, such as a troll equivalent to rotten tomatoes where movies/books/films etc are rated on 5 different scales (also possibly two different modified 3 scale versions) in addition to a simplified two-scale version where the measure of "good" is based on "how much did this work inspire emotional reactions in you vs how much did you not give any shit at all"- the cane hooks me by the neck and pulls me off stage

#homestuck #homestuck analysis #homestuck theory #homestuck speculation #alternia #homestuck quadrants #quadrants #matesprit #moirail #kismesis #auspistice #uhhh is there a fucking tag for like. troll cultural-worldbuilding #because that's my favorite fucking thing and like the number one topic in my brain like 80% of the time #also if anyone is interested in that troll rotten tomatoes thing I would actually love to talk more. in a separate post #so please shout at me that you want it please please please #long post

[breadfacednerd]

#davekat #kardave #homestuck #karkat vantas #dave strider #homestuck trolls #gay people real #autism real #karkat #matesprit #kismesis #y'all deserve a banger after that cringe i posted #hs

[quadrantbot]

TO THE VERY BASICS IN QUADRANTS (COMPLETELY CANON IN HOMESTUCK)

Blackrom

PITCH RRLATIONSHIPS ARE BASED ON MUTUAL HATRED

THEY'RE ALSO BASED ON MUTUAL RESPECT

PITCH ROMANCE TAKES THE ADMIRATION FOR THEIR GOOD TRAITS AND THE HATRED FOR THEIR BAD TRAITS AND PUSHES YOU TWO(or more) INTO BETTERING YOURSELVES AND EACH OTHER

Palerom

The initial creation of the pale quadrant WAS intrntuonally made for lowbloods to pacify highbloods, however I believe that as a general society it expands more than that even with our canon examples

Moirails have a mutual caring for each other and much like REDROM, a mutual pity. Redrom tends to be a lot less active in helping with those they pity, moreso just pitying each other rather than the moirails where they pity each other and Activelt try to help each other

Moirails are not platonic I will whack your head right off if you say they are JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE A NON CONCUPISCIENT QUADRANT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE NOT ROMANCe ok sorry

Redrom

As I mentioned with palerom redrom is basically the concupiscent and less actively involved pitying quadrant. They tend to act more similarly to a regular human romance but it is EXPLICITLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE HUMAN LOVE AND TROLL PITY ARE DIFFERENT THINGS

Redrom partners tend to have the more basic romance things, but they are also often capable of wallowing in that pity together rather than doing anything about it?

Ashenrom

ASHENROM IS ROMANTIC BETWEEN ALL PARTIES. WELL, MAYBE NOT THE TWO BEING HELPED IN THIS WAY, BUT THE PERSON DOING THE HELPING HAS ROMANTIC FEELINGS FOR BOTH OF THEM. ASHEN FEELINGS.

The difference between ashen and pale tends to be that ashen wants to calm a conflict between two trolls and palerom tends to focus on one individuals feelings over everyone elses

Ashenrom is usually used to prevent pitch infidelity AND is also sometimes used within pitch relationships to prevent it from becoming unhealthy

(Since this description was helpful in one server. Haha!)

#homestuck #homestuck quadrants #homestuck shipping #hs quadrants #hs shipping #palerom #moiraillegiance #moirails #info #Redrom #matesprits #Matesprit #kismesis #kismessitude #blackrom #Ashenrom #auspisticism #auspisce

[screpdoodle]

I am extremely normal about them-

It's been a while since I've drawn my main Homestuck ship, but I felt it was about time to draw some good ol' PB&J

The lineart turned out a little thicker than I wanted, but for what basically amounts to a (relatively) quick doodle, I'd say it's not too bad :3

#homestuck #homestuck fanart #HOM3STUCK #gamzee #gamzee makara #gamzee fanart #tavros fanart #tavros #tavros nitram #gamtav #gamzee ❤️ tavros #PB&J #peanut butter and jelly #matespritship #matesprit #ship #ship art

[ro--lal]

Hii can ii get matchiing mate2priit/Kii2me2ii2 erii2ol iicon2 wiith a 2ort of dark theme

iit2 for my partner and me. iim a 2ollux fiictive, he’2 an Eriidan fiictiive

she kis on my me til i sis

#requests open #homestuck #icon #pfp #homestuck icon #sollux captor #sollux captor icon #eridan ampora #eridan ampora icon #matesprit #matespritship #kismesis #kismesistude

[yaboipandy]

so i tried to mix the quadrants

im proud(ish) of this

so here you go: pandy's homestuck deca-dants

#homestuck #homestuck quadrants #matesprit #moirail #kismesis #auspistice #railmesis #materail #nemesprit #auspmate #auspesis #moirastice #pandy rants

[tricksterchalcedony]

Quadrant Bonk Emotes!

homestuck bonking emotes! requests are open!

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#tc.art #discord emoji #custom emoji #homestuck emoji #emoji #bonk emoji #moirail #matesprit #kismesis #auspisticism #homestuck #quadrants #hs quadrants

[acidicpenumbra]

homestuck quadrants!! because i have autism and i like reading too much into them. 

pls note this is my personal reading of them and while i am extremely confident in my definitions the way theyre defined leaves some of it up for interpretation. im welcome to hearing other interpretations!! also i can clarify if needed :3

i think its important to start off with something very very very important

all quadrants are ROMANTIC, including both the pale quadrant and the ashen quadrant. it is troll romance! please don't ship siblings as moirails i promise it is not platonic thank you!!

all quadrants are based on a mutual care and respect. there is affection! there is admiration! basically, despite not using the word love, ALL quadrants are based on that deep caring and affection that love usually would 

hussie didn't make great examples for most of these but meowrails is a good moirail example so hey thats a win

matesprits! pity/flushed/red romance

in canon it's described as the closest thing to human romance, but it is more complicated than that because instead of a relationship based on love like human romance is, it's based on PITY. 

most regularly you do the same stuff as you would in a human relationship, and theyre functionally VERY similar, the main factor is pity instead of love!! as my friend hal said, "what a pathetic man... i need to take care of you"

moirails! pale romance

in canon it's described as platonic soulmates, but also throw that out the window because it is troll Romance. theyre there to pacify and sort of like ground and balance each other. it's also said in canon that it has sort of a fate thing and that it just Happens. So. take that as you will

in a moiraillegiance you deeply care for your moirail! much like you do for whatever other quadrants but you sort of do more of a protecting / improving role there too. pale and black quadrants have a lot of overlap!! blackrom is just hate pushing for improvement whereas palerom is affection and concern pushing for improvement. 

kismesissitude! hate/black romance

in the most basic way i can describe it, blackrom is having a mutual respect for someones positive traits but having a greater hatred for their negative ones. 

it's like "if you didnt have all these bad traits, you'd be great." and you push each other to get better and fix those worse things about yourself out of a deep caring for them!! the bad traits are seen as ways you can improve and you put effort into bettering each other and yourselves because you see the good they can be. my quote this time "wow you're a pathetic man. get better about it this is pathetic."

auspisticism / ashen romance

ashenrom is a more interesting quadrant because even in canon it's not explored very much?? there are some mentions but it isn't expanded on. they exist mostly to keep kismesissitudes healthy OR to prevent any pitch infidelity. 

it is ALSO romantic (TROLL ROMANCE.) and comes from a place of caring from the parties involved. theres mediating! support! they make sure everything is ok between trolls and mostly are there to keep things from getting COMPLETELY out of hand. hal quote again. "you are both so pathetic. stop."

basically trolls seek out the most miserable whelps for their quadrants usually. just a little bit. half joking

#homestuck #homestuck quadrants #kismesis #kismesissitude #moirail #moiraillegiance #redrom #blackrom #palerom #ashenrom #how do i TAGGGGG I AM AGONY meows #haiiiiiiiii best friends #if i have to fix anything i will but also autism?! #matesprit #matesprits #matespritship #auspisticism #quadrant rambles #caliborn rambles