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Master Mutaito w/Young Master Roshi uses Mafuba to seal Piccolo Daimao
Dragon Ball | King Piccolo Saga
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“…you have mastered much of my teachings well but at this point I fear you may NEVER learn my most important lesson…how to respect women….”
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RESEMBLANCES OF THE PAST
Kuririn = Mutaito
It appears to be that Toriyama's design of an older Krillin was meant to resembles Master Mutaito.
His hair and mustache are similar to Mutaito's except Krillin's hair isn't fully gray & his moustache is shorter. Both Krillin & Mutaito are of short stature as well. And another visual similarity is that Mutaito has a nose that is barely pronounced & Krillin is noseless.
Son Gokū = Grampa Gohan
Toriyama's drawing of Oldman Goku has a moustache that resembles his Grampa Gohan's, but he's also holding Roshi's staff.
There are aspects of Sun Wukong that were used for Grampa Gohan as well. Example being how Gohan being friends with Gyumao (Ox King) when Wukong was friends with the Ox-Demon King in Journey to The West. So, Goku is in a way, a continuition of Son Gohan's story which is inspired by a portion of Sun Wukong's story.
I just think it's cool that Goku & Krillin end up resembling one of Roshi's previous students & Roshi's master. Makes me wonder if Toriyama had designed Goku & Krillin to resemble them on purpose. 🤔
#Krillin#Kuririn#Mutaito#Master Mutaito#Goku#Son Goku#Grampa Gohan#Son Gohan#Dragon Ball#Dragon Ball Z#Dragon Ball GT#DB#DBZ#DBGT#resemblances#now I want to draw Oldman Krillin wearing Master Mutaito's gi & Oldman Goku wearing Grampa Gohan's clothes!#eventually I will
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Sneak peek at a fic I started today (i wrote 4000 words in one day...)
Oh my God, they were roommates-
THERE WAS ONLY ONE BED!!?!
#yeah its about young roshi#following on from my fanart of young roshi and shen#yeah im just gonna use roshi and shen as their names like the english dub#should i make shen and Roshi have gay sex?#dbz#dragon ball z#dragon ball#dragonball#fanfiction#dbz fanfiction#master roshi#crane hermit#tsurusennin#master shen#master mutaito
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Ashido could also nom on Master Shen for the Evil Containment Wave since he was also Master Mutaito’s student and presumably also knows how to perform it.
This is true, that would work, but I doubt Garaki or Ashido know that
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You're the only one I can think of right now that can maybe see what in trying to get at but have you ever seen Bill & Ted's Exellent adventure? Would it be possible, with the "help" of Future Trunks, to compile Goten & Trunks's excellent adventure? One of my main questions is what parts of history they'd visit? Would they go within their parents' time like when Vegeta and Nappa arrived or go as far as Bardock or when S Broly was sent off?
I have so defintiely said that Goten & Trunks are Bill & Ted before. Last I watched the movie they were all I could think of. I have defintiely written fanfiction where Goten & Trunks say things like "radical" and "most unrighteous."
That is a FASCINATING and Inspired idea to enlist Future Trunks's help and time machine.
I think that the most objectively correct answer here is that they visit the parts of history most notable in the original dragon ball or mentioned therein - When Goku took on the Muscle Tower, when he later took out the Red Ribbon Army, Piccolo Daimao's initial appearance where Master Mutaito first used the Mafuba, the lost-to-time appearance of the unnamed Namekian and his efforts to become the next Kami, maybe the 21st Budokai Tenkaichi ... Even the events of the first episode, the fateful encounter between Bulma and Goku.
They would probably be contained to Earth so IDK about Bardock and Broly.
This would be such a NICE little way to bring back to relevance and to appreciate the type of story that dragon ball was when it started! They can even visit the characters of Dr Slump since they did make an appearance in Dragon Ball.
WOW! What a cute idea! Future Trunks can bring them places and Goten & Trunkz can just be like woah... Radical, dude!
THIS IDEA IS DELIGHTFUL! Thanks for sending it in! Goten & Trunks as Bill & Ted FOREVER!!
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Hot take (granted it’s about a show almost 40 years old but I’ve never seen this come up anywhere else): Muten Roshi, the Kame Sen’nin, is one of the most traumatized characters in Dragon Ball.
Yes. This dork.
Wait, wait, hear me out, I know his reputation, but bear with me...
I’m essentially expanding on thoughts I’ve had for a while and started putting into to words through an ask for @dragonballwish but I had another epiphany on the subject a few days ago and now it’s all boiling over.
All right, everyone knows Roshi is the OG Dragon Ball sensei character, the one in the memes about perverted old men, who people probably like to laugh at but maybe not talk about at length. I’m not going to list instances of the sort of behavior that gave him this reputation, IYKYK and all, but what if Roshi had a reason for living isolated in the middle of the ocean, away from people, interacting more with animals and sea creatures than other human beings, who in all likelihood will die long before he does?
No, I’m not accusing Toriyama of doing anything other than his usual MO of flying by the seat of his pants, I’m just saying, the pieces are there for a pretty compelling narrative/character arc.
Roshi’s vague about his personal history. When Dragon Ball gets rolling with the Wuxia elements of the story, he’s iffy about taking on pupils; he primarily makes the initial offer to Goku because he’s Gohan’s grandson. He only takes on Kuririn after the boys bring Lunch back to Kame House for... let’s call it companionship. Despite his choice to live alone, one could infer that he’s actually truly lonely. Hell, his goofy perversions could easily be the result of extended isolation, which all of us know does weird things to the mind.
Wish actually brought up this point; his isolation likely started after seeing the results of his teachings in Ox-King and Son Gohan, one a pillager, a murderer and a hoarder of treasure, the other thankfully not violent but uninterested in interacting much with the world (seems like Gohan also had his own sad story.)
He takes great pains to keep Kuririn and Goku from getting swelled egos; perhaps not only for the sake of their growth, but so as to avoid the mistakes he made with his previous pupils, Son Gohan and Ox-King.
He’s unfazed by most forms of threat to his life; Goku’s Ozaru form startles him, sure, yet he refuses to kill his student despite clearly being capable of doing so and chooses a far more drastic alternative instead. The Red Ribbon army showing up at his house only get taunts, a chuckle and a beating until someone takes Lunch hostage. Even then, he discourages her more violent persona from killing the soldier who threatened her; his appreciation for the sanctity of life could be part of his own disciplines, but it’s just as likely something shaped by his experiences.
He drops out of the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, despite hints that he could’ve gone to the finals again if he’d continued; he plants seeds of altruism in Tien’s mind to sway him away from Shen’s violence and in his words, foster the growth of a new hero.
We only learn anything of substance about Roshi’s past when 22nd Budokai arc ends and kicks off the start of the Piccolo Daimao saga.
And it’s here that we see Roshi well and truly rattled for the first time.
Roshi fought Piccolo Daimao alongside Mutaito and his fellow students; the battle cost him the lives of his friends and his master. Worst still, Shen, the only other martial artist shown to have survived the fight and the Kuririn to Roshi’s Goku, turned bitter; the last friendship Roshi had became so sour and resentful that neither of them could stand each other.
When the time comes for Roshi, Tien and Chaozu to confront Piccolo, the old hermit refuses to let anyone else face him; for all he’s lived through, he wouldn’t survive fighting another doomed battle alongside friends.
Toriyama doesn’t show or explain anything else about Roshi’s past, but we can infer that, at some point in the intervening years before Goku’s story begins, Roshi established his reputation as the Kame Sen’nin, while Shen did the same as the Tsuru Sen’nin.
In contrast to Shen, who garnered his reputation alongside his brother for taking the technique and skills he learned from Mutaito and twisting them for the purposes of torture, pain and assassination, Roshi must have gone to lengths to heal, at least somewhat, from the trauma and survivor’s guilt and grow stronger. Personally, I think to assuage his guilt, he would’ve traveled and helped people (maybe ‘twas in this time when he met and grappled with Korin) as something of a... hero.
I know it might feel like a stretch to see him that way, and I suspect he doesn’t feel much of a hero himself despite the somewhat flashy façade he puts on as Jackie Chun. But consider this fact:
There was a time when Roshi could ride Kinto’un.
We don’t see it, nor is it explicitly stated (that I can remember) but both Roshi and Turtle are surprised when he falls through the magic cloud instead of landing on it when he passes Kinto’un on to Goku. So something that happened between his Master’s demise and the start of the story we’re shown that robbed his purity of heart, at least by Kinto’un’s definition.
Again, was this traumatized survivor narrative what Toriyama intended for Roshi? Probably not.
I’m just saying, all the pieces are there.
#not a fic#Muten Roshi#Master Roshi#Kame Sen'nin#Dragon Ball#Dragonball#DBZ#headcanon#fanon#fandom#Bruce Rambles#brainworm#trauma#Bruce talks about
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Underappreciated Dragon Ball Character:
The Crane Hermit's Story
The Crane Hermit is introduced as a very one-dimensional mustache twirling bad guy who quickly faded into obscurity, but after digging into his history and connecting the dots, I found him to be a rare 3 Dimensional villain from classic Dragon Ball.
I mean the dude starts out as a rich snob, humbles himself while befriending his one time enemy and forges a brotherhood with other martial artists under the same dojo. He even is so loyal and brave to the point of fighting alongside his brothers in arms to the bitter end against a horde of Demons. To top it all off, he was even willing to do it again when suggesting they come back and try to defeat King Piccolo again right after barely surviving their first encounter with him. This is very much in tune to what many noble members of the Dragon Team would do, meaning at one point, Crane was a redeemed villain like half the Dragon Ball cast, but willingly CHOSE to return to his old evil ways.
And this only happened after his master gave up the fight which turned his heart away from the light, as if GOODNESS itself betrayed him and/or the lure of the evil King Piccolo's power could've swayed him to be the self-serving man he is today. I would love to explore that side to him because there has to be something still awesome about him for Tien to have held such high respect for him
This is the story that I pieced together from watching a string Crane Hermit related episodes.
He is first introduced in Roshi's picture book as Roshi's good friend and owner of Inoshikacho with early designs before they shaved their heads and started wearing their master's uniform, like in the flashback of them fighting against King Piccolo. Those designs are used two more times, when Roshi climbed Korin's Tower and trained for 3 years gaining the power pole and Nimbus, so they must've looked like that for a few years at least. We get more details on their lives when Mr. Popo sends Goku to the past and meets a sort of cowardly or at least less confident Roshi, we know that this is more of a simulation of the past because this is basically used again for the humans to fight some weak Saiyans in early Z, so the events of Roshi and Crane starting out as romantic rivals in their teens and Crane's highly inflated attitude without any strength yet to combat Kid Goku implies that he came from a wealthy upbringing like a lot of similar people in old Kung Fu movies. You put these together and you got a very interesting character
Here is how I rationalize it-
Roshi and Crane's bickering/ fighting over a girl likely got them disciplined hard by their mutually shared master, Mutaito. (Whom they both respected and studied under) Young Crane respected enough to restart his training over from scratch rather than being expelled during the Kid Goku goes to the past episode, so the probability that this would once again apply to a young Crane and possibly young Roshi in this new context seems pretty high. The punishments was probably super harsh and severe, probably was too much for Crane's flunkies to bare and they quit early, but NOT Roshi or Crane. They both are WAY, WAY too stubborn to quit early. Plus the thought of not wanting to be outdone by the other is what probably aided in pushing themselves past their limits throughout the harsh punishments and the intensive training.
So now it's basically two teenagers, one from a humble background and the other from a privileged background. Both with a lot of beef. Now stuck together alone. So while they're busy being bickering and competing, perhaps that girl they both were interested in, Fanfan, found herself a boyfriend in the meantime, leaving both of them heartbroken.
Now, since they are in the same boat together, they can start relating and bonding with one another as teenage punks do. Talking about mistreated they are, how unfair things, mostly complaining and roasting one another, etc. But the important thing is, they put their differences aside to overcome the challenges in front of them and this newfound bond leads them to becoming best friends.
The rivalry while healthier becomes stronger with time though because they're young and brash so Roshi goes to Korin's Tower at some point for bragging rights and Crane probably did something equally outrageous in an attempt to one up him, like maybe he won a Martial Arts Tournament or completed some grand trial of their dojo or something.
After being studying together for many years, they shave their heads and join the other students in wearing the formal uniforms of their master, so this is likely the peak of their disciplined lifestyle as Martial Artists.
Eventually this school made a stand and fought to the last man against Demons that terrorized and devastated entire cities and destroyed armies, harming countless innocents in the process. So in order to face such a threat implies a strong brotherhood and loyalty within the group.
Also the effect of his master giving up the fight being one of the factors for his turn toward evil implied that the Crane had great respect for him and that was the greatest disappointment of his life, plus the allure of power that King Piccolo showed must've been too tempting for him to resist so he left the losing side and returned to a lifestyle similar to his origin, using his skills in service of his own self and living it up in a lavish style (as shown in how much of a big spender he is and comparing his hotel room to the Turtle School's). In doing so, he purposely pushed away all the great teaching his Master had taught him, deeming them as weak or worthless for what he believed to being truly strong in his own distorted mind. He desperately needed someone like his Master to correct his misconceptions, and maybe at one time Roshi tried to, but failed because Crane closed off his heart to his once best friend (kind of like Gintoki and Takasugi frrom Gintama) who exemplifies everything he now hates and stands against.
Though some lessons still stuck, like loyalty, specifically to his brother Tao. Which is his prime motivation in the 22nd tournament was to avenge his brother and he even lamented on how they never patched things up so he tried getting justice for him instead of blaming himself. Dodging accountability, but accepting responsibility. Proving maybe even he is not too far gone, if he felt their was even a point to change.
But that doesn't mean he was the nicest brother. His pride and jealousy couldn't stand the idea that his brother was far more naturally gifted than him and so he attempted to sever one of the few remaining bonds he has in his long life of losses, with his own hand because of his own inferiority complex.
He allowed his greed, anger, pride, and jealousy blind him to what would've been his greatest legacy as a Master of Martial Arts. His students. The most well known are Tien and Chiaotzu. Who he long since failed to guide them to the righteous path which led them pass the point of no return. Tien and Chiaotzu were one in a million prodigies that he wanted to turn into a mere weapons at his command. To make matters worse, these self-centered, cruel and down right malicious teaching actively corrupted Tien's nature and forever shut his Third eye's truest abilities. So he didn't nurture his disciple like he was completely capable of, instead, he actively/incompetently crippled his number 1 student forever preventing him from reaching his full potential by stealing his birthright. Truly failing as a Master.
He makes one last appearance in the 23rd Tournament feeling betrayed and wronged, but leaves as a coward. It is such a shame to see what once was a great man, how far he had fallen.
His Death. Toriyama mentioned that he and his brother Tao Pai Pai got in over their heads and died somewhere in the middle of Z off-screen. In-spite of all of his gifts, he utterly failed as a Master by actively trying to spite everything his Master taught him and what did all of his efforts and years of experiences gift him with? An inconsequential death that will not be remembered, which is heartbreaking for a man who was once and could've forever remained as great as the fan-favorite Master Roshi. It is a shame because unlike his teacher, he never redeemed himself, not even in death. What could've been a Legend, instead turned into a Cautionary Tale.
Honestly, it is such a shame that this character wasn't utilized more. I've got a few more Crane Hermit related headcannons, some from when he was younger, some of how he could've been used after the 22nd Martial Arts Tournament, like a role in the King Piccolo Saga since that is so closely tied to his past, watching his continual, but strained relationship with his students, etc.
#@bushidraw#dragon ball#crane hermit#dragon ball classic#tao pai pai#general tao#tien#tenshinhan#master roshi#muten roshi#headcannon#dbz#cautionary tale#shen#shin#crane shcool#failed master#master mutaito
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Dragon Ball 102
Last time on Dragon Ball... OH FUCK KRILLIN’S DEAD
He had gone back to the arena to fetch Goku’s Nyoibo and Four Star Dragon Ball, and then Goku found him and the World Tournament Announcer laid out on the floor. The Announcer, at least, is okay. He explains that some monster barged in and took the Four Star Ball and a copy of the Tenkaichi Budokai roster. Krillin tried to fight the creature, but it was just too strong.
Goku is livid. A lot of people have asked why Goku didn’t just turn Super Saiyan right here. Personally, I think there’s more to turning Super Saiyan than the emotional shock of your best friend getting killed. For one thing, Goku wasn’t there when it happened. I think there’s a difference between finding Krillin’s dead body and watching him get slaughtered while you’re powerless to stop it. Also, Goku isn’t nearly as strong now as he will be on Namek, and I think that has a lot to do with it.
Nevertheless, this scene has a lot to do with Goku being a Super Saiyan. It’s all well and good to talk about Goku “transforming” into a Super Saiyan, but you can argue that he always was a Super Saiyan, since he eventually figured out how to tap into that form. And this righteous fury we see from him is what sets him apart from most of his species. Nappa and Raditz never felt this way in their lives, or they never allowed themselves to feel this way. Goku has this capacity throughout his whole life, and so when he’s finally strong enough to cross the threshold, he has the emotional intelligence to carry him to the other side.
He grabs his Nyoibo, asks Bulma for her Dragon Radar, and rushes off to hunt down Krillin’s killer. Roshi tells him to wait, even orders him to stop, but to no avail. After all, Goku’s hungry and tired, and any monster who could beat Krillin so easily would probably be too much for Goku while he’s less than 100%.
Oolong finds a piece of paper on the floor with a mark on it.
And once Roshi sees it, he realizes that he knows who’s behind all this.
King Piccolo.
Okay, so here’s my perspective on this. I watched DBZ first, and it was pretty clear from casualy watching the early episodes around 1998 or so that Piccolo was the bad guy before Z got started. All we really knew about him was what little the edited dub revealed in flashbacks or exposition. Goku said that he wanted to take over the world, though he never understood why, and it was pretty clear that Goku had been the only thing standing in the way of that goal. While the early sagas of DBZ involved the good guys having an uneasy alliance with Piccolo, it was clear that no one really trusted him, and they were terrified of what he might do if left unchecked.
All of this led me to wonder just what Piccolo had done as a villain. I think he struck me as a sort of Dr. Doom or Skeletor archetype at the time. He wanted to conquer the planet, which suggested that he probably pulled some schemes that might have almost worked if Goku hadn’t come along and punched him in the face. Yeah, he was super strong, but he must have been fairly restrained if the world was still in one piece.
Then I finally get to the first episode of the King Piccolo Saga, and it turns out to be way, way worse than I ever imagined. Krillin’s dead, and that’s just for openers. Piccolo had once terrorized the world a long time ago, and he had a horde of demonic creatures helping him kill innocent people right and left.
This is one of the best filler scenes I’ve seen so far. While Roshi tells the story of King Piccolo’s first reign of terror, we’re treated to this horriffic sequence of scaly green monsters flying around, blasting energy beams out of their mouths, stalking frightened humans, and crushing any and all resistance.
This monster was about to descend on an innocent woman, until some guy tried to beat him up with a pipe. But the pipe just bent around his body like it was nothing, and then the monster mauls him instead. Now imagine that the entire world is like this, and you start to understand the horror of King Piccolo.
And through it all, King Piccolo’s just enjoying the whole thing. Why did he do all of this? Why turn the whold world into a charnel house? We never really get an answer to that.
Piccolo’s monsters eventually came after the dojo that Master Roshi and the Crane Hemit used to belong to. He doesn’t really mention why this conflict happened, but my guess is that that Piccolo’s creatures were just going after everyone. There was probably no strategy to it at all.
I’m pretty sure these are Roshi and the Crane Hermit, although I have trouble telling which one is supposed to be which. The one on the left looks a little more like Roshi, though.
I’m not sure when this was supposed to have happened. I’m pretty sure the Funimation dub established it was fifty years ago, but that doesn’t make much sense. For one thing, of all the characters Roshi is telling this story to, only Tien has even heard of King Piccolo, and he hasn’t heard much. If King Piccolo had been around only fifty years ago, then Bulma’s parents would probably know about him, since her grandparents would have surely lived during that time.
Also, Roshi is well over 300 years old, so if he looked this young fifty years ago, he must have aged really badly since then. So I’m pretty sure Funi goofed, or I’m misremembering something. It makes a lot more sense if the King Piccolo crisis happened a lot longer ago. Two hundred years, minimum.
Whatever the chronology, Roshi and the Crane Hermit were only able to beat back Piccolo’s minions, and never King Piccolo himself. Not even their master, Mutaito, could stop Piccolo, although he swore to oppose him with all his power.
Piccolo wounded the guy, but he managed to survive, thanks to his superhuman vitality. Only, he left Roshi and his other students before he was healed, and he promised to return one day.
Roshi thinks that the magnitude of the Piccolo crisis was what turned the Crane Hermit into the villain he is today. That’s pretty heavy stuff. Piccolo is so evil that he inspired other evildoers to turn to evil.
Getting back to the story, one day, years later, Mutaito returned, having finally mastered a technique that would save the world from King Piccolo.
So he went right up to King Piccolo and zapped him with the Mafuba, also known as the Evil Containment Wave. It didn’t kill Piccolo, or even hurt him...
Instead, it directed him into a vessel, which could be sealed with a sacred talisman. I don’t know why he picked a rice cooker, but his options may have been limited in those days.
The only downside to the Mafuba is that it kills the user. So it was up to Roshi to deal with the imprisoned King Piccolo.
So he dropped it into the bottom of the sea. The only way King Piccolo could possibly have returned would be if someone found the jar and opened it. Tien and Chiaotzu wonder if the Crane Hermit might have done it, but Roshi says that he never would have dared to unleash such horror again. So the question is: Who would be dumb enough to find King Piccolo and set him free? What sort of colossal idiot would... oh, who are we kidding? It’s Emperor Pilaf.
Worse, Pilaf told Piccolo about the Dragon Balls. He thinks King Piccolo would want to wish to rule the world...
But no. Conquering the world is easy for him. What he wants is eternal youth, so he can have the vitality and longevity to rule the wold forever!
Pilaf tries to suggest that Piccolo should share half the world with him in exchange for all of his help. It was Pilaf who found Piccolo’s jar, released him, set him up in this cool airship, and he told him about the Dragon Balls and the Tenkacihi Budokai. Piccolo replies that he’ll think it over.
As for the Dragon Balls, Piccolo has one of his goons named Tambourine looking for them, and he’s on his way back with one right now. What the Pilaf gang doesn’t understand is why he had Tambourine steal the tournament roster while he was at it. Piccolo explains that it was a martial artist who sealed him away for so long, and so he considers martial artists to be the only possible threat to his plans. Any one of them might possibly know or reinvent the technique that sealed him away, so he plans to kill them all, and the Tenkaichi Budokai roster makes a nice list of strong fighters to kick off his purge.
Back at the arena, Roshi has reached the same conclusion.
Meanwhile, Goku, who knows none of this, has finally caught up to Tambourine.
#dragon ball#2019dbliveblog#king piccolo saga#goku#krillin#master roshi#mutaito#piccolo#pilaf#mai#shu#piano#tien#chiaotzu#yamcha#bulma#launch#oolong#puar#crane hermit#tambourine#dbmovieliveblog
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Guess who went full fanboy and Kame'd up his DS4?
#dbz#dragon ball z#dragon ball#dragonball z#dragonball#dragon ball super#dbs#krillin#son goku#goku#yamcha#master roshi#kamesennin#mutaito#playstation#ps4#video games#gaming
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Young Master Roshi (Turtle School) & Young Shen (Crane School) of Mutaito Dojo kill Demon Clan members
Dragon Ball | King Piccolo Saga
#goku#dragon ball#akira toriyama#piccolo#master mutaito#master roshi#master shen#piccolo daimao#demon clan#mutaito dojo#80s anime#martial arts
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This is just a little timeline for the Koji & Kikami story to help me keep everything organized
263 - The child of Katas lands in Yunzabit Heights
310 - The child of Katas leaves Yunzabit Heights
380 - Garlic’s plan to put out the Sacred Fire is hatched
395 - Garlic seeks out Annin under the guise of training
400 - Kikami is taken under Annin’s wing
433 - Koji is born
444 - Koji’s home catches fire, family dies
454 - Annin sends Garlic and Kikami to seek training from the Sacred Tower so one of them might become the next Guardian; Garlic changes his plans to make use of the opportunity; Kikami is betrayed and crashes into Koji’s homestead
454 - 455 - The Spice Rack Saga; Kikami and Koji go on a road trip to find the Sacred Tower while being hunted by Garlic’s demon’s; Garlic reaches Korin Tower and has to keep up the façade of goodness to assure his spot as Guardian
Late 455 - 456 - The Garlic War; Kikami and Koji reach Korin Tower and reveal Garlic’s scheme to Korin; a bunch of fighting, idk I’ve not hammered out this part yet; The Guardian confronts Garlic, Garlic opens up the Deadzone and is pushed in by the Guardian
456 - 459 - The Guardian Arc; Peace time; Kikami trains to become the next guardian; *UPDATE* Koji learns magic, uses gardening skills to make Senzu beans grow (Korin has had a difficult time with them); It’s revealed that Garlic Jr exists and wants revenge; Arc finishes with Kami and Piccolo splitting
460 - The Guardian dies; Kami ascends to Guardian; filler with Koji/find something useful for Koji to do; Piccolo begins to scheme and build his army; Piccolo seeks out Garlic Jr, use his Deadzone technique to lock away Kami (keep Piccolo unopposed by a serious threat while not threatening Kami’s life) in exchange for a seat at the table for world domination
461- 465 - The Piccolo War (plus Garlic Jr) Saga; This one’s a mess buckle up; Piccolo and Garlic begin reign of terror; Other stuff; Koji is killed (not sure if by Piccolo or Garlic Jr) while advancing plot/protecting village (noble sacrifice? *UPDATE* delivering senzu beans, stolen by garlic/piccolo?), enough strength for a tearful goodbye with Kami; Pissed Kami fights somebody, Deadzone is opened, maybe Garlic Jr falls in (?); Master Mutaito adapts the Deadzone technique into the Evil Containment Wave; Piccolo is sealed away in rice cooker; Kami creates the dragon balls, wishes Koji back to life but something in the way/not within Shennron’s power, instead wishes her soul proper rest in afterlife (because she was killed by demons, soul forced to aimlessly wander in misery)
741 - Koji is reincarnated, born to Shirumo and Dr Mito Chondria under the name Miso Chondria
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I honestly think that giving Krillin, Tien and Yamcha a personal disciple would do them great on all levels! Getting stronger, bonding, teaching each other their own concepts, it can really work! That's what I've been doing in DBX2 with my earthling characters Torrta, Ravito and Linni respectively, and yes, they're named after pasta dishes.😶
I totally agree with you. I like that you have your OCs training under them. If we got this in canon I'd love it to be these characters...
Marron
Of course I think Krillin should train his daughter. Her father is the strongest Earthling & her mother is a super powerful cyborg (who Marron probably inherited abilities and potebtial from both).
Tenshinhan's students & Yurin
This would be good for both Tien & Yamcha since Yamcha is shown & mentioned to hang out with Tien from time to time. As well as that stated in interviews by Toriyama. Yurin would be a way for Yamcha to get over his fear of women a bit more but also be a teacher for her. It could go romantic or platonic. Tien could focus on his students (as he already does in DBS) and show how he fashions his training for each individual student.
Something I'd also like to see is oldman Krillin teaching a new Kame school. For 1, its an idea Toriyama had in DBO where Krillin had a New Turtle School & Tien had a New Crane School. Plus I had a post from a yr ago (will find & post soon) about how oldman Krillin looks like Master Mutaito. So him teaching new student would almost be like Mutaito all over again.
If we were to go the GT route, I'd have old Master Krillin training Goku Jr. & Vegeta Jr. as an homage to Mutaito teaching Roshi & Crane Hermit as well as a homage to Roshi training Goku & Krillin. It would aslo resemble Whis training Goku & Vegeta.
(The Paradise Herb grants longevity, so Krillin could live a long time just as Roshi does. But that's combining Super ideas with GT's story.)
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What is your favorite arc in OG Dragonball and why?
The Piccolo Saga.
I consider Demon King Piccolo and the 23rd WT/Piccolo Junior to be one big arc so I’m counting them as one. It’s kinda cheating but oh well lmao
First of all it has one of my favorite arc openings period. Krillin gets killed which is like HOLY SHIT and then they find the piece of paper with the mark of the demon on it. And Master Roshi’s face when he realizes what is happening is just amazing. His whole backstory about Mutaito and how Shen became an asshole partly due to being so helpless during King Piccolo’s reign of terror is great too.
Also it introduced one of my favorite attacks in the whole series, the Evil Containment Wave.
Three of the main cast gets killed off without a sweat and then this dude just KILLS SHENRON. like nobody has ever thought to do that ever again and really makes Piccolo stand out as a threat. Hes like yeah thanks for my youth back ok you can die now.
Tien’s Redemption, Roshi’s sacrifice and Goku sesning it despite being half way across the planet before Ki sensing was a thing, Piccolo destroying the entire island at the WT, so many awesome moments in that arc.
Then in the 23rd WT you had so many awesome fights like MY BOY KRILLIN vs Piccolo. Dude went all out and Piccolo even admitted he had to try a little bit which says a lot imo, Piccolo vs Kami is awesome too.
AND THEN THERES BEST WAIFU CHICHI
And most of all, that arc has my favorite fight in the entire FRANCHISE. Goku vs Piccolo Junior.
This fight was just so awesome. i love how they were completely equal and just kept one upping each other. Goku was crippled by the end and tbh I love the brutality of it. After the Saiyan Saga you never really saw that type of thing again because the brutality of those fights really brought them higher imo.
i can go on for a while about this lmao
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