#mainstream versions

[incognitowetrust]

Unpopular opinion as someone who doesn’t even read comic books, play the Arkham games, or is even technically really “into” DC and Marvel as a whole, but I’m gonna say it anyway because I guess I need to vent or something…

The existence of Harley Quinn and the ways she is typically handled as a character really friggin’ gets in the way of my ability to enjoy The Joker. Why? Hm, well, I suppose the simplest way of describing it is that… like… cartoony evil-bastards are loads of fun because they’ve got big personalities and whatever they are and/or the situation the characters are in is separate enough from reality. It’s not hard to enjoy the conflicts between characters, because nothin’ like good ol’ escapism via witnessing worldbuilding. However, if you add some form of motivation/conflict/etc that’s not only dark and edgy and gritty, but a bit too close to shit that happens in the real world, suddenly the tone of literally everything is different. Not to say that “edgier” interpretations of superheroes and supervillains are inherently bad, though admittedly I feel like a lot of these attempts ironically actually lose their emotional maturity and heart when they attempt it.

Harley wouldn’t bother me as much if she had some more self-agency. Like, okay, I get that she’s also not sane and whatever, but she’s not exactly dumb, she’s capable and independent when it’s convenient. If she gave zero fucks and couldn’t be emotionally hurt by Joker, as well as not being afraid to be a danger to him in return, then her typical role at Joker’s side wouldn’t bug me. However, she’s pretty damn submissive to him, and so many damn times over and over again what keeps happening is she puts total blind trust and love in him, and he deliberately screws her over, and her reaction is of genuine hurt and surprise. Cue surprised pikachu face. I understand that some would argue that they’ve got a good character dynamic (good as in well-written and fucked-up-with-a-purpose), because of a variety of reasons, and I also understand that Harley as a character, Joker as a character, and their relationship/dynamic/etc has varying iterations and interpretations, but… Imma be real with y’all, I’d rather just enjoy some campy villains and not have to also sit through some domestic violence that’s just… there. I don’t care if it’s fictional and iconic, lemme hear Mark Hamill’s glorious voice sass and troll the hell outta a sad man dressed as a bat, in peace. Part of it also might be the fact that Harley is also (like many comic book women) often a sex symbol. You know, like that shitty Suicide Squad outfit the actress friggin’ hated, and is unimpressive design-wise at best. I don’t really even feel like elaborating on the ways I’d figure blatant-sexy-Harley is an issue for me. Blah blah blah really it’s simply one thing that when paired with the other things makes it problematic and obnoxious.

Anyway, uh… yeah I think I’m just done. For some reason I got a bunch of pesky thoughts buggin’ me, and I had to write the basics of it down so my brain could relax and switch subjects; a common problem of mine. In a world where real women are killed every day by their partners, and good representation matters, and representation that isn’t bleak-as-fuck also matters, AND bruh sometimes I just want an enjoyable distraction from the world and I’m not ashamed to admit that… I just kinda wish I didn’t have to manually filter through abuse-victim-Harley in order to find and enjoy hammy (especially Hamill) Joker time.

#random thoughts #vent #the joker #harley quinn #villain likability #edgey villains #mainstream versions #abuse #domestic violence

[watcher0033]

The disparity between the actual Hades and his Furies + his satan allegory = Bad Reputation is nothing short of hilarious. 😂

#finally #this is the Hades that I’ve been waiting for #like seriously #the broody tortured in solitude version of Hades that’s been mainstreamed to death is cute #lol #but being the most chill among the big three with the LEAST dysfunctional marriage/relationship #doesnt hold up the bad boy broody/bitter ole hoe reputation ya know #pjo tv spoilers #pjo tv show #percy jackon and the olympians #hades #pjo hades

[demonontheroad]

My target audience is just myself at this point

Do you see my vision

#tervo #thats the only way i imagine them #no hate to the mainstream hcs #a little hate to the canon version #solar opposites #solar opposites korvo #solar opposites terry #korvotron #terrance #my art #digital art #artists on tumblr #fanart

[professorxsmokesweed]

*if yes please reveal what version of cherik!‼️

#i dont watch the firefighter(?) show hence the question mark cause im not completely sure they are firefighters #anyways i wanted to know what everyone else thinks :3 vote now on your phones! #personally i think the chances of bigscreen cherik kissing is very low if it happens it would be a less mainstream version #btw do we have sometimes kinda bad photoshop kisses like destiel does? the movies happened during destiels heyday so i feel like we should. #cherik

[daylighteclipsed]

But honestly. Why would Nomura choose to start the paopu sharing scene with Sora focused on Riku. Why would Nomura choose to have Sora frowning and reluctant to share paopu with Kairi until Kairi clarifies it doesn’t mean they’re a couple. Why would Nomura not tell the voice actors this scene is romantic if it’s meant to be romantic. Why would Nomura consider not having Sora and Kairi share paopu at all. Why would Nomura choose to have Sora start questioning what romantic love and true love are in KH3. Why would Nomura have Sora notice the parallels between himself & Riku and Anna & Elsa just to begin wondering what he and Riku are (according to the novel, Sora doesn’t feel like ‘siblings’ is the right answer). Why would Nomura directly parallel Riku’s feelings for Sora with Hercules’ romantic feelings for Megara. Why would Nomura choose to not show Sora acting ‘romantic’ (in the eyes of the general audience) with Kairi until after Sora forgets Riku’s true love sacrifice (and arguably other things about Riku) and associates Kairi with his savior — a situation that parallels another romantic Disney tale, The Little Mermaid, and is not unlike Sora associating Namine (and then Kairi) with the person most precious to him in CoM when it’s actually Riku that Namine has replaced in Sora’s most precious memory, the meteor shower promise… another memory that Sora may have forgotten. Why would Nomura choose to show Riku’s true love sacrifice multiple times, emphasizing how important it is, if that moment/memory is not going to be vital later. Why would Nomura choose to visually parallel Riku’s true love sacrifice with the meteor shower promise. Why would Nomura specifically shut down the possibility of Riku/Namine when he’s usually pretty indifferent to shipping. Why would Nomura choose to not have Kairi’s memories hold an important connection to Sora beyond the knowledge that unreality exists, and then in the same breath, give Riku an important, personal connection to Sora through his dreams. Why would Nomura choose to make Riku the only one who can go after Sora, who has the power to save him? Why would Nomura choose to parallel Riku with Cinderella and Aurora whose “dreams lead her to her true love”? Why would Nomura do any of this if Sora/Riku’s not happening.

#me: do NOT get your hopes up #also me: #kingdom hearts #soriku #i hope that dudebro from 9 years ago who said nomura’s waiting for homosexuality to be more accepted/mainstream before confirming sora’s #into men knows they’re a prophet that was living a decade ahead of everyone else #probably getting too deep but it IS interesting that the little mermaid — the original and disney version — were heavily influenced by #gay men struggling with their sexualities #the disney version has a significantly happier ending bc howard ashman #believed in a happy ending for him and people like him #if they ever do a modern remake it should and would most accurately be a love story between two boys #or girls #anyway. i think it’s also significant that nomura has said the characters like aqua or axel are not getting a ton of focus in kh4 #and kairi is with these ‘unrelevant’ characters #like not only is she staying behind she’s probably going to be part of the side character b-team that comes in to fight in the bigger #battles later #i hate the way she’s treated in these games but nomura’s making it p clear this way that this isn’t about kairi #this is about sora and riku and possibly probably concluding their stories #since arguably kairi’s story irt sora has mostly wrapped up. that’s probably why nomura chose to have them share paopu #so that nobody would be left wondering if/when it’s going to happen #i didn’t forget nomura paralleling riku & sora with yozora & nameless star #it’s just unclear right now what yozora and nameless star’s relationship is #it leans towards romantic but I’d rather wait for confirmation

[clownprince]

Don't mind me just having a Moment over how lucky I am to be alive in a time where a trans nb character openly showing his top surgery scars is casually depicted in a mainstream comic...

#ghhhh #I'm not entirely sure if this is a first time thing for dc #as in the top surgery scars specifically #but I'm Fairly sure it is (?) #I don't know. just. having dc publish this #such a Massive company and with a pretty mainstream comic #if you see me crying over this panel no you don't #(I am not used to actual representation ok...) #also jane in the prev comic... #a metahuman version of DID but in the current incarnation at least they seem to be handling it well? #gnawing on this comic. masticating furiously #jules jourdain

[carnivalcarriondiscarded]

if you have some, do you have any headcannons for barnaby?

honestly! not really! i don't have hcs for any of the neighbors!

#the way i interact w/ welcome home is uh... slightly differently than how i interact with more mainstream / company-produced media #like if you compare how i talk about the neighbors/wh to how i talk about characters on say... my dc blog #there's probably gonna be a notable Difference! #with mainstream/company stuff i go Hog Wild with hcs and aus and i form my own version of everything in my head #(while still understanding & respecting canon as the true source) #but wh is Different! i can't really do that! #it isnt some big production created by a team & mass released #where the actions of some fans just fuckin around and having fun won't directly affect anyone or even reach the ears of the creators #and where upon releasing it everyone Knows that its gonna be dissected & torn to shreds & played with like barbies #wh is more... personal? there is one main creator. these are His characters. its Their story. #i can't in good conscience make headcanons and honestly? id much rather stick to canon trivia & facts than create my own #theyre not my facts to create or believe in!! #sometimes ill make a post saying 'hey this would be cute / neat' #but as soon as i post im tossing that thought away. i dont let them stick or become hcs #(NOTE THAT I AM NOT BASHING ANYONE WHO MAKES HCS. THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL OPINION!!! MY OWN PERSONAL INTERNAL RULES!!! FOR ME!) #rambles from the bog #like even with the lights out au im being careful with it. im trying to be faithful & respect the characters and the source #its an... exploration i think #ive never approached making an au this way bc usually im just flinging characters around and treating canon as a chew toy - scrap for parts #but i cant do that here! im Not Complaining At All im simply stating! i cant! #sorry you probs weren't expecting a lil mini rant in tags my b <3 #this has just been in my head since i first discovered welcome home #i remember feeling myself start getting really attached & interested #and i recall telling myself 'ok. we cant approach this the way we would other things' #and i have done my best to Stick To That. ive relaxed a lil since then but im still standing by my one rule #Be A Little More Normal About This Than I Would If It Were Mainstream / A Company-Made Production

[yuridovewing]

As a fellow Dovewing lover, it's frustrating how the fandom watered her down into a whiny brat who never cared about Ivypool. I mean, seriously? Not only did Dovewing care about her sister (reacting in horror when Lionblaze, her own mentor and Jayfeather are willing to potentially sacrifice Ivypool's safety by employing her as her spy instead of trying to get her out of the Dark Forest's clutches, hiding a thorn in her nest to cover for her scarring from her training).

Heck, even the scene where she tries to feed Ivypool her catch during a hunting patrol was demonized because 'she was trying to make Ivypool break the code like SHE does, as if it doesn't matter' and because she got upset when Ivypool started arguing with her! But you guys said she didn't care, right? Plus, people act like being forced into a prophecy is something you should be grateful for, as if it didn't irreparably change her close relationship with her sister? As if Lionblaze and Jayfeather didn't still keep her out of the loop (and for all the fussing they made about keeping it a secret, Lionblaze confesses his power to Cinderheart and Jayfeather doesn't even care).

Meanwhile Nightheart is angry he isn't orange and hates his mom for being exiled and the whole world has to stop for him. 🤪 And Bramblestar is simply so tortured by having an evil father, the only choice is to train with him and his evil half-brother and hide this from his wife! (But remember, it's bad when that witch Squirrelflight hides the parentage of the three from him, even when Blackstar and Leopardstar were still around after being complicit in the torture and killing of halfclan cats.) Why are these male characters sympathized with, even when they actively harm people (Nightheart forcing himself into Sunbeam's life by lying to everyone about being her mate without even asking her if she would be fine with that beforehand), Bramblestar (we all know what he does), but when Dovewing or any other female character is upset, people freak out and call them whiny brats or abusive for (checks notes) asking her partner if he loves her anymore after they argued multiple times in a book. Really makes you think! (Sorry this is so long, you just have based opinions!)

dovewing being characterized as this flighty airheaded vain popular girl stereotype in fanon is like. one of those biggest "we didnt actually read the books" things in the fandom. like theres so much fanart where shes grinning and giggling over the prophecy and shes besties with the trio and shes got preferential treatment, and then in the actual books shes basically the autistic kid no one actually likes. people really, REALLY overexaggerate that one scene where she snaps at ivypaw and brags. (and i dont wanna shit on amvs but i am forever side eying how the animation community handled dove back in the day. more than one person animated her getting murdered. normal.)

i do think its gotten better recently at least. but wow does it feel like at least one person on the writing team has a bone to pick

(also awww thank you <3 no need to be sorry i love getting stuff in my inbox)

#it does also feel so insidious to me just how long the bramblesquirrel conflict was painted as ''equally kind of wrong'' #the ppl who put words in squilfs mouth sometimes which. btw ill get to that when i read the book #and tbf part of it is that sometimes abuse isnt as easy to spot if youre primed to the mainstream version of it #like. bramble isnt a born evil wifebeater everyone can see coming from a mile away. hes a complex guy with his own insecurities #and his own goals and people he openly cares about. and even in some fanon stuff i see ppl kinda erase that part of him #(which i wont pretend im above- ive been trying to walk that line myself) #and that doesnt match how abusers are usually percieved by the public. or in this very series. #like. the main excuse for clear sky is literally ''hes sad his sister died and tried to save her! no one changes THAT much'' #anyone can be an abuser. you could be an abuser. i could be an abuser. that doesnt mean that we ARE but we are capable of it #and the thing that catches ppl off guard is that abusers are really good at hiding who they are and theyre often charming #i often hear this account of abuse that goes something like ''my parent abused me but no one believed me bc theyre nice in public'' #you dont know whats going on behind closed doors. and ik this is about funny kitties at the end of the day but its quite telling #so... yeah bramble has his nice moments. hes got his GREAT moments even. i love his relationship with his mom for example #but those moments dont mean that hes not capable of being worse. of being a monster to his loved ones #its why squilf keeps getting sucked back in. hes not a one dimensional asshole. hes capable of being kind to her. #and thats what makes his disgusting moments hit so much harder #wow ok i got off topic in the tags but yknow. idk i got feelings abt this matter as someone who's experienced toxic relationships

[obsidiannebula]

Husband apparently found some posts of people complaining about trying to play Divinity: Original Sin 2 after enjoying BG3. And to that I say, just be glad you weren't playing with my husband, whose favorite battle strategies were "Laser Ray everything and I mean EVERYTHING in his path" and "use Internal Combustion on allies to turn them into walking time bombs if that maximizes the number of enemies hit, and also out of combat just for fun"

#dos2 #no but im not surprised some people who loved bg3 are bouncing off of it cause thats just how it goes #when a franchise or developer gets mainstream acclaim after already making a lot of games #a lot of people wont even bother to look at previous games #some will #and some will come to love them just as much as old fans #and others will bounce off it because its less polished or just plays a little different #to me bg3 felt a TON like dos2 except with d&d rules with which i was already quite familiar #to people going backward to dos2 it may not feel as similar #dos2 is also much more linear #also playing a custom character is even less interesting than making a tav is #in both games the origin characters are just FAR more interesting ways to experience the plot than customs #but idk it is actually kinda fun to make a custom tav. in dos2 i do not recommend doing anything but an origin run #ugh i cant stop rambling dos2 is so good you should really try it #if nothing else you need to discover the far cooler version of elves #uh. cw for cannibalism with them though

[shokuto]

I feel like we're possibly living in a timeline where Spider-Gwen overtakes the original Gwen Stacy and the martyrized version of her...that's pretty damn funny

#I mean regardless no one's willing to appreciate OG Gwen as she was so I can't say I mind #It's just crazy that she was established as a love interest to another character and the version of her that could be replacing her #in the mainstream was created on the complete removal of any romance between them #spiderman #spider gwen #gwen stacy #ghost spider

[lion-sensei]

when are they going to play an etrian odyssey at a GDQ

#they're mainstream enough now right #there are even PC versions now

[ruthless-to-a-fault]

So I really liked Zoom Academy for Superheros as a kid, a widely panned kids movie from 2007 starring Tim Allen. I rewatched it fairly recently and wrote a little thing, I never ended up posting it. But here it is for funsies, I've never posted any fanfic before and I have no spelling skills. I hope anyone who also remembers this weirdly dark childrens movie likes it.

Its similar to the story you know

It starts the same, a lone survivor barely 17 powerless in the desert. The bodies of three friends scattered around him and a brother gone. Nothing left to bury.

The sheer amount of nuclear energy released by the vortex jack creates finds it's way into the atmosphere. Resulting in a generation of children born with powers. Not enough to cause a fuss but the neighbours aren't too surprised when Cindy uproots a tree to shake out her frisby. Kevin down the street can make little wind gusts, Cindy's power level though is enough to catch attention.

As is Dylan's, Summers and Tuckers, when he uses it that is.

So they all end up in that miltary base. Jack with the promise of money if trains them, he rather take the carrot than stick. The jail he'd end up in probably looks less like a prison and more like a fresh ditch and bullet in the head.

The kids go of course because they're parents say so and so does the military. Their parents sign waivers and are fairly compensated for their loss. On that day they go from children to military assets, an important distinction where legality is concerned.

The story is much the same, jack is jaded, the children adjust as best they can to their environment. Holloway gives encouragement as best she can knowing she is likely sending children to die.

Better a heros death she tells herself, they'll get comic books written about them just like jack. The comic books don't mention that he's always late thinking he'll get there faster than he can, or that he's deaf in one ear, or that below the left knee he is metal.

They expose the children to gamma, of course they do. One child's life is not worth what Concussion could do. Dylan is the first. They reason better the invisible kid go crazy than one that can lift a truck. It unlocks his clairvoyance `mindsight` jack calls it. He vomits for days afterward but he does not go crazy and he does not die.

Concussion shows up before the military can dose the rest. Jacks powers reactivate to save Cindy. To this day there is still shrapnel in her arm from shards of the metal net, too small for the surgeons.

Concussion sends back the rocks that summer throws at him, most miss. One doesn't, it hits her right in the eye. Cindy thinks the eyepatch she wears after is cool so summer does mind too much.

Tucker manages a good hit in before a blast sends him into rocks that leaves him paralysed from the waist down. He always says it could be worse, if he lost an eye like summer, that would be it. God forbid the world be deprived of his baby blues.

Dylan comes out relatively unscathed. The gamma damage stays however, it was a miracle that jack lived past 40 and it will be another if he does.

Connor is saved. Thanks to jack, Concussion is just his big brother again. Still 19 and no longer trapped in a space between here and now.

Jack however, there is a reason his powers stopped working. It isn't a mental block caused by the pain of losing his family. It was self defence. The speeds he could move at weren't sustainable on his body, especially after the first vortex. So his body shut it down.

He is nearing 50, he is not 17, his body gives up. Jack is Zoom for a fight, jack gets to be Zoom once more before he drops from exertion and does not get up.

Summer and the rest take the ship and Connor. You can't track space tec, staying hidden helps when you've got a friend that can see around corners. They live in a house a little bit too small for them in a city easy to get lost in and try to adjust back to civilian life.

Connor is old enough to pose as an older brother and the kids get to go back to school. It's easier to make friends now at least, high school bullies aren't very scary anymore. Connor disappeared in the 80s so the all the technolgy is a riot. He misses he brother and blames himself for his orginal teams deaths.

The new family helps him move on. When Cindy finishes high school they move out to a farm. Summer finds business is easy when you can sense emotion, so money isn't a problem.

Cindy can lift all the heavy objects she wants. Summer loves the animals and tucker is a mean cook. Dylan learns to garden. Connor fixes stuff when it breaks and retrofits tuckers chair with tracks and others gadgets inspired by the ships design.

There is a horse named jack because he's the fastest they have and whenever the gang needs a break they go brush him. Everyone knows it means to leave them be. They all have their own demons.

They sell things at the famers market. The community is endeared if confused by the odd family. They don't ask questions, they are all out here for their own reasons and tucker makes the best pies in town.

They heal, away from the military. They are not heroes. They are a family and they are happy.

#zoom academy for superheros #I only write fanfic for obscure shit im too cool for mainstream #tim allen is still the worst guy you know even in this version #i know nuclear radiation doesnt work like but the movie thinks it does so its true in my heart #i love traumatised bitches making families

[celestiachan]

style savvy au where all the different styles/tastes/whatever are edgy as shit and there are only three non-edgy styles and one of them is still alternative

#xenon screams #style savvy #this has been sitting in my brain for several months #why are there only three edgy styles in style savvy. why is one of them kinda mainstream #you can't just dump scene emo punk grunge and rockabilly all into one style and then have specifically jgoth be its own thing #yes i know rock is vkei. but in the english version they call it punk. and it has arm warmers and bright colours which is associated w scene #anyway. i think that would be kinda neat. rosie that is specifically scene. yolanda that is rokku gyaru. alinas already gothic lolita #can you tell the only game ive finished is styling star

[surprisinglydomestickakashi]

My favorite part about being still into Naruto is the way I'm into it means I frequently have to tell algorithms that I don't actually want to consume Naruto like they want me to. Don't give me bland voice over theories from people who need to be reminded of minor characters. I need my clinically not-normal girls, gays, and theys to talk with about the little side guys they have entire lives mapped out for, the interpretations that include their favorite filler episode because they like it and above all else people who don't shit on the women characters or only consider them, annoying and useless or waifu material.

#you ever stop interacting with the mainstream version of a fan of something #and forget how condescending and stupid they are #one time i was reading kakashi retsudan at an airport and someone asked me if i knew who the guy on the cover was #when i said yes he was like but really or just from that book #like dude none of thr short stories make sense if you haven't seen naruto shut upppppl #he tried to slamder sakura to me and i would not have it #i had to block this one channel that would act like an expert but still has not put together that naruto calling tsunade granny is not #evidence that his theory of tsunade being minatos mom is true #like thats just a cultural way of addressing a woman her age she explicitly states she had no kids #and it wouldn't even change his one idea of kage nepotism because shes still a senju granddaughter #like the fact she doesnt have kids is why there are no senjus around #and why the heck would Minato not take her last name if she was his mom #it is killing me so i needed to vent here #he just says it like its fact casually after he dropped his theory video too #not to stereotype but ohhhhbmy god cishet anime boys are a f #different breed (derogatory)

[sincericida]

The many versions of Andrew Garfield

This is the cutest thing ever!

#andrew garfield #the many versions of andrew garfield #fucking cute #fan art #peter parker #spider man #tasm #the amazing spider man #boy a #the social network #silence 2016 #mainstream 2020 #breathe 2017 #tick tick boom #sam under the silver lake #never let me go #99 homes #hacksaw ridge #sincericida

[cto10121]

There are literally at least 5 major MAANs I know of (‘90s Branagh, Joss Whedon’s version, the David Tennant/Catherine Tate version, the Shakespeare in the Park version, the Globe Theater one), plus a loose film adaptation that was a hit.

Meanwhile all the recent major R&J productions was that horrible film one with the butchered Shakespeare that bombed, the stupid gnome one, and the Orlando Bloom one. And they still haven’t adapted the French musical.

#😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 #romeo and juliet #no i don’t count & juliet fuck it #what do you mean yet another r&j #the leo di caprio is the only major mainstream version #and it’s so overrated #with the second most horrible shakespeare #there have been more stage productions but they haven’t been big #oh and there was the one they did amid quarantine #nobody says ‘why hamlet’ or ‘why macbeth’ #it’s called a classic #classics are meant to be redone!!!!