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firawren · 14 days

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Pride and Prejudice 1995 text posts, part 3 of ?

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fangerine · 19 days

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"You have bewitched me, body and soul, and I love...I love...I love you."

PRIDE & PREJUDICE (2005) dir. Joe Wright

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bethanydelleman · 6 months

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Do people miss that Darcy didn't want to marry Lydia off to Wickham? He tried to get her away first. She refused. And then he didn't go all masculine hero and physically force her to leave. I mean maybe you could argue he should have, but he respects her incredibly stupid choice and makes the best of it.

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anghraine · 1 year

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This is unnecessarily long, but: I was just thinking about Wickham's predation on fifteen-year-old Georgiana Darcy and then, almost exactly a year later, Wickham's predation on sixteen-year-old Lydia Bennet.

There are obvious parallels between the two incidents. In fact, they're so obvious that I think the incidents are sometimes treated as equivalent, with the consequences only differing by happenstance. I don't think that's true, personally.

There are some mechanistic sort of differences—Wickham put a lot more effort and planning into the Georgiana situation. He wanted to marry her for her money and to make her brother suffer. She had to be isolated from people who would look out for her interests, he had Mrs Younge in place, he had known Georgiana as a child and was able to exploit his own previous kindness to her as her father's godson, etc.

And Georgiana, despite all of this, and despite being swept away by a teenage infatuation with an extremely attractive man, was still uncomfortable with it. She was worried about disappointing a brother who raised her and whom she deeply loves and admires. When her brother actually showed up by surprise, she decided to tell him everything; Darcy takes pains to give her credit for this. Adaptations generally downplay Georgiana's active decision-making here, but the only element of chance is Darcy deciding to go to Ramsgate at all. He insists that he was only able to act because Georgiana chose to tell him what was going on.

This isn't meant to be an indictment of Lydia, though. Does she admire the parents who raised her? No. But why would she? Especially why would she admire a father who treats her mother and sisters and herself with profound contempt and no sense of responsibility? Why would she ever confide in him?

It's not like Lydia doesn't confide in anyone. In fact, she too confides in an older sibling, her sister Kitty. And in one sense, her trust in Kitty is not undeserved. Kitty does keep the secret. Presumably, she does this because, despite her occasional annoyance with Lydia, she is very much under her influence and goes along with whatever Lydia does. Regardless, she is trustworthy in that sense. Moreover, we see at the end of the book that Kitty is easily improved by being placed in better environments and taught how to behave. She just didn't know better.

How was she going to judge Lydia's situation correctly? Who was teaching her to judge anything correctly? Certainly not their parents.

If Mr Bennet had bothered to interest himself in his younger daughters and try and influence them for the better, impressionable Kitty is probably the one who would have benefited the most. The whole Lydia/Wickham thing would have fallen apart before it went anywhere if all the girls had been been properly raised, even if Lydia did exactly the same things.

And Lydia likely wouldn't do the same things if she'd been brought up properly and, you know, treated with a baseline of respect rather than being openly mocked by her father, the person most able to affect her development. Instead, at barely sixteen, she's been continually rejected by her father, over-indulged by her mother, and flattered by adult men (28-y-o Darcy says he and Wickham are nearly the same age). And she still tells someone what's going on, even though she doesn't care about her parents' opinions or the consequences of her actions. And she was under the protection of a colonel and his wife at the time, who also could have told someone or acted, and didn't.

It's not that nobody could have done anything about the Lydia/Wickham situation. It's that nobody did until Darcy found out and tried to extract her. But it was, in one sense, too late. To Lydia, he's just some unfun acquaintance who says boring things like "go home to your family and I'll do what I can to cover for you." That is, he tries to do what he did for Georgiana.

But Lydia is not Georgiana—she did not choose to tell him about any of this. She did not want to be extracted because she didn't know and couldn't be quickly made to understand what marriage to Wickham would mean in the long term. And she didn't care what her family thought because she had no reason to, pragmatically or psychologically.

Georgiana, otoh, did care about her family's welfare and the good opinion and affection of the head of her family. But despite their radical differences in personality, the most fundamental difference between the girls IMO is that Georgiana had every reason to believe that disappointing Darcy and losing his respect would be a change from the norm.

Normally he is affectionate and attentive towards her. They write each other long letters, he defends her to other family members, and praises her frequently. Georgiana, quiet and intimidated though she may be, talks more when he's around. Disappointing him had actual stakes for her.

Put another way, the potential loss of his good opinion mattered to her because he's gone to the trouble of raising her as well as he can and forming a good relationship with her. She chose to tell Darcy the whole thing because he had earned her affection and trust in a way that Mr Bennet has utterly failed to do. Even Darcy happening to visit Georgiana at Ramsgate comes from his affection and attention to Georgiana's welfare, even if he couldn't have known what would follow from checking on his sister at that particular moment.

Chance is always part of life, and it's part of the novel and these situations. But a lot of how these scenarios wound out was not determined by chance but by long-existing patterns in these girls' educations and relationships.

#this actually spun off from a different post about the contrast between darcy and mr bennet #they're alike in some ways but it only makes the differences all the more glaring #and i don't think we see that more than in how they conduct themselves towards the young girls in their care #and in the drastic consequences of how they educate and relate to those girls #georgiana and lydia made choices but there's a point at which harping on choice!!! and personal responsibility!! doesn't have much value #and the contributing factors and context of those choices matter so much more #anghraine babbles #long post #austen blogging #austen fanwank #georgiana darcy #lydia bennet #fitzwilliam darcy #george wickham #mr bennet #catherine bennet #some unflattering references to mrs bennet but this is more of a mr bennet hate post :)

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didanagy · 30 days

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PRIDE AND PREJUDICE (2005)

dir. joe wright

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myfandomistingling · 9 months

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#mr bennet #p&p #pride and prejudice #pride and prejudice 1995 #pride and prejudice 2005 #mr darcy #elizabeth bennet #colin firth #matthew macfadyen #jennifer ehle #jane austen #keira knightley #memes #funny #but true #darcy x elizabeth #lydia bennet #depression barbie

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greengableslover · 1 year

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No, seriously, Lizzy. When did you first know you were in love with Mr. Darcy? It came on so slowly I hardly know... but I believe I must date it from the time I first saw his wonderful grounds at Pemberley.

PRIDE AND PREJUDICE (1995) dir. Simon Langton | Episode 6

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thoumpingground · 8 months

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So when Darcy went to fix the Lydia/Wickham situation, he first tried to get Lydia to return home, only bribing Wickham into marrying her when she wouldn't. This is sensible by modern standards, but we know from everyone else's reactions Lydia *failing* marrying Wickham would bring the Bennet family shame. Darcy knows this, and doubt he planned to leave the situation as is. So how did he originally plan to fix it?

I think Mr. Fitzwilliam Darcy was gonna channel his inner Emma Woodhouse (didn't have to dig far, they're very similar people) and play matchmaker. In my headcannon Darcy checked his "Possible Husbands for Georgie" list against his "People who owe me Gargantuan favours" list and offer whoever came up money to marry Lydia.

Now, he would want to spare the Bennets of as much of the scandal as possible, and wouldn't want to take the merit in front of Lizzie, so all would most likely happen discreetly through Mr. Gardiner, while Lydia was in London, and she would move to her husbands immediatly after.

However, I wanna propose a different scenario: Lydia returns to Meryton. Scandal ensues, the Bennets are disgraced. Then, within two weeks, a random well-off man shows up intent on courting Lydia and *only* Lydia. He heeds nobodys warnings and gives no explanations. Lydia loves it. Every other mum in Meryton is furious. The Bennets are confused and paranoid. Imagine the drama. The intrige. The million questions still unawnsered long after Lydia eventually gets married and leaves. Bingley marries Jane (cause of course Darcy still told him he'd been wrong to pull them apart, and Bingley would) and Darcy's still somewhat around. Maybe him and Lizzie get together, maybe not, but every time the topic comes up he gets all sheepish and awkward and she gets suspicious and it's a thing. It's their new dynamic.

#picture a binder for “people who owe me Gatgantuan favours”#and like a few pages for “Possible husbands for Georgie” in a folder #“why would Darcy waste a good man on (ugh) Lydia?” i fear someone might ask?“#because Darcy's a good considerate person. he was trying to save her for a bad marriage in the first place.#not saying he'd give up the top pick but he wouldn't set her up with anything less than safe and decent #also as annoying as Lydia is she doesn't deserve abuse. Austen makes a point of telling us even with Wickham she's got her family's support.#also also the top pick is probably Charles and he's taken so #jane austen #mr darcy #lydia bennet #mr. gardiner #lizzie bennet #decent guy.#pride and prejudice #classic literature

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green-mochi-blog · 1 year

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When we talk about Pride and Prejudice we always discuss the change and the work Darcy did on himself, which is fine, because it was a major change and for good, which helped him be a better person

But we never talk about the change Elizabeth had to make, and not just in herself, but in her whole fucking family!

That woman had to hear from the mouth of the person she hated the most that her family was ridiculous and the cause of her dearest sister's misfortunes and sadness, and she didn't want to believe it. All to return home and realize that Darcy was right, her family was a mess!

Lydia was a derailed, shameless child with no sense of responsibility, and Kitty, despite being older, was following in her footsteps

Mary, despite all the hours she put into her studies, had no sense of selfawareness and no common sense, which made her embarrassing at social events.

The mother was vain, gossipy, ignorant and impertinent, and more likely she used to be just like Lydia in her youth. Probably the reason why she encouraged such behavior.

And the father, the one person Lizzy adored so much, was not only aware of all these shortcomings, he allowed them and even entertained himself with the ridiculousness of his wife and daughters, without bothering to correct them or set limits, something that he found annoying and uncomfortable.

And Lizzy would have been well on her way to becoming just like him if it weren't for Darcy's criticism.

Lizzy understood that any chance of fortune and happiness in the future for her or her sisters would be undermined by her own family.

They had already done it with Jane, and would continue to do so if Lizzy did nothing about it, so not only did she have to correct her own behavior, she also had to make an attempt to correct that of her family, which was nearly impossible for her without the support of her father and Jane, and unable to reveal what she knew from Darcy

#pride and prejudice #elizabeth bennet #fitzwilliam darcy #mr. darcy #jane bennet #lydia bennet #kitty bennet #mary bennet #jane austen #period drama #that family was a mess #poor lizzy had so much work to do #and completely alone

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toss-a-coin-to-your-stan-account · 4 months

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one thing I love about pride and prejudice is that wickham marrying lydia is never portrayed as a "well they deserve each other" situation. even while lydia is loud-mouthed and arrogant and conceited the book still makes clear that she's young and naive about wickham's intent and her running off to marry him is consistently portrayed from elizabeth's point of view as an awful thing. the "joy" and relief surrounding the confirmation of their marriage comes from the fact that it was the only way the situation could have ended in a way perceived as "respectable" and not because it was actually a good thing. for all of her flaws and negative character traits lydia is still a teenage girl being manipulated and groomed by a horrible worthless man and the book doesn't shy away from that. thank you miss austen

#mine #pride and prejudice #lydia bennet #mr wickham

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elizabeth-freaking-bennet · 1 year

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Mrs. Bennet and Lizzie

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bethanydelleman · 1 year

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The thing about Pride & Prejudice is we are given both the "perfect victim" in Georgiana and an imperfect one in Lydia. Lydia does not stir or even seem to want our compassion, but she is a victim. Jane Austen does not kill or truly impoverish Lydia, instead she assures us that her family, even the main character of the novel, will always protect her. Jane Austen cared about imperfect victims.

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exigencelost · 3 months

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Lydia Bennet hours again! Lydia Bennet sets the stakes. Whatever happens to Lydia is the worst thing that can happen to a woman who misbehaves, followed by the best rescue she can expect from a man possessed of influence and capital. Lydia Bennet spells out the stick and carrot of why Elizabeth needs a husband. The cruelty visited on Lydia by the other characters and by the narrative serves to illustrate the material dangers of being a woman in this time and place and is what gives the story teeth. Reimaginings of Pride and Prejudice that soften Lydia's fate and soften Elizabeth's condemnation of her are, intentionally or not, striving to create a story with no stakes, a completely safe romance that need not cause the reader or viewer any anxiety. Not only do you sit down in front of a romcom knowing that the girl will get the boy in the end; you know that nothing really bad can happen to anybody in the story, and there is nothing that the characters really stand to lose other than a momentary emotional disequilibrium. This is a perfectly fine thing for a story to do, but it has little to do with Austen.

#austen #lydia bennet

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queen-paladin · 11 months

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Mrs. Bennett Tevye

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High-stress levels from trying to marry off five daughters