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carnivalcarriondiscarded · 7 months

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hello again everyone i'm putting on my tinfoil jester hat & passing out Hefty grains of salt. its batshit theory time!

in short: i think Julie is gonna get violent & might end up killing someone - or she'll at least try. and i'm pretty sure something terrible is gonna happen to her.

in long: hoo boy. strap in

first off, i'd like to say that i love womens' wrongs And rights! all of this is said with utmost affection & respect for Julie. i love it when characters do terrible things, its interesting and so tasty for the story and their development <3

second disclaimer: most of this is just based off of what we have / know as of now. which is, admittedly, not much! so despite having short arms, i may be reaching very far! i'll get the based-on-knowledge part of my thoughts out of the way before getting into the more abstract I'm Just Making Shit Up At This Point part (educated guessing, yk yk!)

not sure where to start so i'll begin with what starting this line of thinking - flower symbolism. I've gone a little bit into it in a previous post from a while back (where i just made observations about the neighborhood map), but i'll restate the relevant parts. there are two flowers in the neighborhood with greek myths attached, and similar ones at that: the hyacinths outside of the Post Office, and the sunflowers outside of Frank's house.

most people know the hyacinth myth! Apollo, while playing metal frizbee with his (male) mortal lover Hyacinthus, Apollo's thrown discus bounced off of the ground and accidentally hit Hyacinthus in the head, killing him - then Apollo turned the spilled blood into the hyacinth flower. in another - popular - version of the myth, the wind god Zephyrus was jealous and blew the discus off course to kill Hyacinthus. as for sunflowers: Clytie, a nymph, was in love with Apollo and grew jealous of his relationship with a princess, Leucothoe. Clytie informed Leucothoe's father of the relationship, and he buried Leucothoe alive as punishment. Apollo turned his murdered lover into a sunflower. two flowers attached to greek myths about Apollo falling for a mortal, and that mortal gets murdered by a jealous non-mortal.

next, I would like to bring attention to This Concept Artwork from 2021. now i'm not gonna use this as a definitive "oh this exists so it must mean-" but there are always elements of concept work, especially Canon concept work, that sticks or can allude to themes or information that will be revealed later in the story. concepts are concepts for a reason - it means there's a solid idea that's being explored in depth, most times for use (especially that deep into the story crafting).

specifically, right now i'd like to look at the type of flower Julie is holding. pansies. normal ones + the primary fucked up pansy. pansies are symbols of love - both romantic and platonic, but predominantly platonic. it can also symbolize nostalgia, thought, admiration, remembrance, and can even be used as an "i'm sorry" flower. in victorian times, it was often used to represent forbidden/secret love.

stick with me, i'm getting to the point i promise

now, another thing is how much of Julie's character (meta-wise & in regards to the WH show as a production) is centered around love. her house is the "cutest" or most feminine one in the neighborhood, and it's downright infested with hearts, from the windows to the bushes to the chimney. she exists as Frank's foil, and it's almost definitive that she was meant to be Frank's love interest (there's just. so much evidence that there's no way that's not it). and just look at her! she looks like a love interest! if WH was a real show that i sat down to watch, i'd see her and immediately go "oh, ok, that's her base role"

this contradicts with what we know of her character - Julie seems big on platonic love, loving her friends, but other than that? she very much steps around what her house/character design is trying to say. she's hopscotching right over what the production wants from her. the only thing she kinda sticks with is the whole flower thing

but. but but but. i wonder! after the update, I'm pretty confident that the neighbors are influenced by the "script" and the workshop, even if they're not aware of it. see: the difference in how they act in the "recovered media" (where they behave more like they're characters playing out a bit, their dialogue has no natural lulls and it just sounds like a (really good) script) vs the 14 audios & the phone calls (natural dialogue, they seem more layered & like actual people instead of just characters, there's no set shenanigan - they're just doing their own things). and we can assume that the latter audios are from the neighbors off-script off-the-air.

despite this, they still somewhat try to fill their roles. the question is: how much of that is authentic, and how much is them still feeling that pressure to perform? just like how We as people feel pressure and expectation from societal rules/norms, even if we're not conscious of it. like, say... kids growing up thinking being queer is wrong, even if they've never been directly exposed to / made aware of homophobia/transphobia. We fill in the absence of being told "this is right" with "it must be wrong", and We act accordingly

so apply that to sapient puppets who were (again, most likely) made with set relationships, dynamics, and character details in mind. they're meant to be This Way, even if they want to be That Way, and that internal "programming" has to conflict, at least a little. like how I've seen Clown mention that homophobia will/may be a theme, and the only way i can see that happening among puppets who have never been directly exposed to it is if the above happens: they feel pressure from something they're unaware of. expectation from a "higher" plane of existence. as above, so below.

OKAY NOW WE'RE GETTING TO IT I PROMISE! blend this all together into Frank & Eddie catching feelings. they weren't meant to fall in love. they're not supposed to be together. it's - from the perspective of Playfellow & society (in the time period WH was active/created) - wrong.

Julie is supposed to be with Frank. Frank is supposed to be with Julie. in a way, they are together - they're best friends. they're foils. they were created to compliment each other and click. in the media audios, they're almost always together. if one of them is in a scene, so is the other.

so what happens if Frank starts to pull away? if he starts to spend more time with Eddie - what if Julie feels like she's being pushed out? what if she asks Frank to come play, only to be told he already has plans with Eddie, and if Julie tries to join in, what if Frank tells her no?

if it were me in this situation, I think I'd start to panic a little. everything has always been the same - it's always been Frank and Julie. that's how it's supposed to be. Frank and Eddie, well that's just - that's just wrong! and if, at this hypothetical point in the story, things are tangibly starting to degrade/go wrong, Julie might cling even harder, panic even more.

you see where I'm going with this? what i meant with the flower symbolism and what it could point to?

their world is falling apart, and Julie's one constant - Frank, her best friend, her grumpy rock - is pulling away. for Eddie. the mailman. and so what if the jealous "lover" takes action? Julie can make things go back to normal. she needs Frank, and in her mind she's losing him, but she can't lose him. she can't. and maybe that little whisper of expectation that she can't hear but feels nonetheless, fuels this fire. it makes her feel justified, makes her feel the need to act and "correct" this. maybe if she gets rid of the distraction, Frank's love and attention will be hers once more.

i mean, people do insane things when they're under that much pressure. from current probably-horrible events, a loss of control in their own life, their closest person seemingly distancing themselves, subconscious pressure from societal expectation. especially when it comes to love - platonic or romantic. w/ Julie, i'm pretty sure it's platonic in regards to Frank. though she is bi, so you never know! could be both!

and maybe it won't be about Frank & Eddie, if any of this turns out to even a little right. maybe there's a factor I'm not considering or haven't seen yet. but i really do think that there are things pointing to it.

like yeah, the Concept Art linked above. the caption saying "liar", the specific species of flower, Julie holding it over her mouth as if keeping a secret, the hammer. not sure if the person standing over her is her primary puppeteer, an abstract, or something else (it seems cracked?) but that's not what this theory is about!

then there's the flower patch - both behind her in the concept art, and the one behind her house on the map. it's striking me now that the two look very similar. they have mostly the same flowers, even. blue/yellow/white/orange "daisies", some daffodils, what i think are roses (it's hard to tell specifics on the map). an odd choice to make them so similar (unless it's coincidence!).

when I first saw the patch, my immediate thought was "holy shit is that a body dump?!" bc it's oddly green compared to the rest of the map, it's placed at a noticeable distance behind Julie's house - as if it's supposed to be "hidden", and it's the lushest spot in the neighborhood. now, to provide a counterargument to my own claim: it could be very green because that's how things are shaded, it looks like it's at a distance from the house bc the map is 2D, and its the lushest spot bc Julie's all about flowers - also, i doubt flowers would spontaneously grow since we can assume none of them are real. it's a puppet world of props. but who knows.

(and okay this might or might not be relevant but we can assume Julie is the one who made the chalk drawings on the path, right? i think there's a spiral in front of her house. just making a note of it.)

and there's just how much "pressure" seems to be on Julie compared to the others. she doesn't match her house. she doesn't fit her "role" the way she's meant to. AND OH AND I ALMOST FORGOT - by the swingset, there's now a bowling ball and what looks like red scissors. idk about you guys but i associate scissors with Eddie. he's all about crafts, after all! now i'm really reaching but hey? murder weapon? Julie does seem fond of bowling balls... that's a perfect bludgeoning weapon to have on hand (in abundance!)

in conclusion, i just think Julie has major potential to do some deliciously fucked up stuff. in fact, i hope she does! it could be handled/done in an absolutely fascinating way, and could have intriguing consequences.

who knows, maybe i'm right about her trying to get rid of Eddie (not out of malice or anything, just fear & pressure), and there'll be a whole thing where he keeps on coming back, completely unaware that she tried to off him, bc he's a puppet and it's probably really tough to kill something that wasn't really alive in the first place. i mean, in This Observation post i made about some new map secrets, there's a strange window shine on the Post Office door that could be spelling out either "nexus" or "new us". that plus the apparent extra hands/faces behind the door... Eddie is quite accident prone. who's to say he's not used to being replaced by himself? it's not like he'd remember. or is that the reason his memory is bad? holy shit wait - no wait this is a tangent. sorry. this post is about Julie lmao maybe i'll make a different post for this Eddie Thought i just had bc ough. ough...

and also, before anyone tries to come at me - because there's always people who twist words to Start Shit or misinterpret/miss the point - i'm not saying that Julie is like... homophobic. or hates Eddie. or is a "jealous crazy-" just. yk? and if you think that, maybe reread the post. or take a reading comprehension class <3

AS FOR THE SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAPPENING TO JULIE. this is based on Two things and also Vibes. this section will be mercifully short compared to the rest of this clusterfuck of a post

so in the Livestream Trivia doc compiled by @/theneighborhood watch, yes i'm referencing this again sorry, there's this tidbit:

that, plus This Artwork, which features Julie (they're her shoes!) standing at the edge of an apparent chasm (the edge of the set, i assume) paints an interesting hypothetical picture. maybe she wanders a little too far and falls off the edge of her world. maybe she discovers something and Wally has to do something he doesn't want to do, but "needs" to. hey, who knows. maybe she is gonna hurt / try to hurt someone, and in an attempt to save them / stop her, Wally pushes her - either accidentally or on purpose, either way the end result would be the same. now I'm just pulling things out of my ass so lets move on lmao

then there's the Unknown Record in the website's media section. i actually recorded the audio and sped it up - i'll post that video later - and it seems to be an excerpt from Alice in Wonderland. the only part of it i've been able to clearly pick out is "Alice found herself falling down.... down... down..." followed by, presumably Alice speaking - who's high pitched voice reminds me of Julie's. so that's another point in the Julie Goes Bye-Bye Via Rapid Descent theory. or just goes temporarily missing! it could be that the only relevant part of the above trivia tidbit is the "falling down a cavern", and not the "never seen again" part. but it could. be. both.

though! though. Clown has stated that if all the neighbors were to take on roles in Alice in Wonderland, Wally is the one who would be Alice. which follows his direct connection to the spiral/eye pit, and the phrase "down the rabbit hole". so it could be either or. it could be both! it could be neither! this is all speculation, which brings us to....

the end! we made it! i hope you're still carrying your Hefty grains of salt! soon you'll be able to fill a large chicken-shaped shaker with it all!

#ok ive been feeling a little Clearer upstairs lately so i think this is actually written the way i wanted #the brain fog lifted just enough to be insane on main!#sorry about all the flower symbolism #i just think its there on purpose! why choose those specific flowers! why Draw specific flowers in a fictional puppet world #where not even the animals are real species! theyre just generic/fictional 'butterfly' 'beetle' etc #and how eddie and frank's main flowers are practically the same story just in different fonts #how julie is 'meant' to be frank's lover. the meanings of the pansy. the flower patch.#welcome home speculation #wh speculation #wh theory #homebogging #'i connected the dots' you didnt connect shit 'ive connected them'#i stg im gonna eat drywall....#and hey. maybe this is all just wishful thinking #i love it when fictional women do bad things. its catnip to me!#we'll see we'll see #wow i actually dont have much to say in the tags. i put it all in the main post. this is a rarity!#i just think it would be interesting if julie clashed with frank/eddie #that could be downright Fascinating...#well whatever happens ill enjoy it! im im right - awesome! if im wrong - awesome!

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tweedstoat · 1 year

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Look I get that they're probably just more relevant to the Northern plot of the story but I just find it weird that Allyria is betrothed to a marcher lord and there's no mention of Ned being invited to the water gardens....also Ned being named after the man who KILLED Arthur.....there is so much anger at and within that family GRRM explain....

#lord dayne tried to work OVERTIME naming ned after the guy who killed his brother to restore his rep with the dornish i just know it #look yall we hate arthur too!!!#the rest of dorne: too little too late but also wtaf is wrong with u guys #lord dayne: fuck it guess ill have to marry my sister to our ancient enemies tm #also as a friend pointed out arianne never thinks of allyria AT ALL despite the fact that theyre probably young women of similar ages #and allyria is neds heir until he has kids #oh ALSO it mustve been a recent thing because the Daynes were important and liked enough in dorne before cause elia went there #on her betrothal tour #asoiaf #asoiaf memes #valyrian scrolls #the great dayne shunning theory of 2022

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figureskatingcostumes · 9 months

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Xiangyi An's free program costume at the 2023 World Junior Championships. She skated to The Theory of Everything and Song for the Little Sparrow.

(Sources: 1, 2 and 3)

#Absolutely love this dress #Just want to lengthen the skirt a tad #Xiangyi An #Figure skating #China #Women #2022–2023 #2023 Junior Worlds #The Theory of Everything #Jóhann Jóhannsson #Song for the Little Sparrow #Abel Korzeniowski

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asshatproductions · 1 month

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Feel free to elaborate in the tags!

#i'm asking because i've got a little theory about men tumblr chooses to thirst over...but i've got to verify this first #i wish you could make the duration of polls longer cuz I would like to just keep this going.#timothée chalamet #dune #dune part 2 #timothee chamalet #willy wonka #wonka movie #wonka #little women #call me by your name #ladybird #cmbyn #lady bird #polls #my first poll!

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gnnosis · 8 months

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“i forgive you” + little women (2019)

if you think about it. if you think about the parallel to 1x04. “how could someone as clever as you be so stupid?” “i forgive you.”

[ gif credit @tonystar ]

if you watch this scene. specifically the Face Journey aziraphale goes through before saying he forgives crowley. the Face Journey says that was mean. that was uncalled for. i know you didn’t mean it like that, but it hurt me. what he chooses to say is “i forgive you.”

and if you think about The Scene. “you idiot. we could have been… us.” “i forgive you.”

[ gif credit @scruffyobiwan ]

in 1x04, it’s crowley’s line, then aziraphale’s right after. in 2x06, it’s crowley’s line, then the kiss, THEN aziraphale’s— so it leaves us going “is he forgiving the kiss? the love? the rejection? the ‘idiot’ (in a nice parallel to ‘so stupid’)?” something very interesting is going on there as many people have pointed out, and as neil has said the ambiguity is intentional….. i don’t feel like anyone has 100% determined what the “real” meaning is (if such a thing exists).

the Face Journey aziraphale has here is very different than in 1x04…. the kiss, obviously, changes things. but really…. it’s not so different. that was mean. that was inappropriate timing. i know you didn’t mean it like that, but it hurt me. “i forgive you.”

all i know is i cant stop thinking about how much it reminds me of THIS.

[ gif credit @thatonekimgirl ]

“no, laurie, you’re being mean.”

amy’s choosing fred. it’s convenience. it’s expected. it’s practical, he’s wealthy. it’s not what she wants. laurie offers her another option. she turns him down. she doesn’t just turn him down— she says “no, laurie— you’re being mean. stop it, stop it.” she says “i will not be the person you settle for…not when i’ve spent my whole life loving you.”

it’s not 1-to-1 — crowley isn’t “settling,” he’s confessing a LOOOONGstanding reality. aziraphale isn’t second choice to an equivalent jo march.

but the situation. “you can’t leave me this bookshop” and “don’t marry him.” “i forgive you” and “you’re being mean.”

if you think about it. what aziraphale isn’t saying about the kiss is why now. why like this. why when i’ve just had to make this choice, when i’ve been offered this opportunity, when (maybe, if you believe some of the theories out there) i’m protecting you from something worse than you can even imagine. when at least, if i have to go, i’m offering you a place by my side. “i need you!” it’s now, after 6000 millions of years that he’s choosing to confess? to bring physicality into their relationship? no, crowley — you’re being mean. stop it, stop it.

what he says is “i forgive you.”

#good omens #good omens 2 #good omens season 2 #good omens meta #good omens theory #good omens speculation #aziraphale #crowley #aziraphale and crowley #ineffable husbands #little women 2019 #good omens 2x06 #good omens 1x04

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suavis-nook · 2 years

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Little Women color palettes ✨

~directed by: Kim Hee-Won

For more:

instagram || twitter

#little women #little women 2022 #little women kdrama #kim go eun #uhm ji won #littlewomenedit #wi ha joon #nam ji hyun #park ji hoo #kim hee won #color palette #color theory #kang hoon #movie blog #aesthetic

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jutenium · 7 months

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Well, hi

It's an experimental drawing with Bartimaeus in the guise I drew when I started reading The Ring of Solomon (no spoilers, please, Ukrainian translation has recently been announced, so I'll be waiting for it), or, well, similar to it:

#no particular reason for it actually i just love women #and Maeus too #the bartimaeus sequence #bartimeus trilogy #bartimaeus #a lot has happened #like me watched Jojo #(almost twice already)#(and you can already see it in my art)#how did I manage to keep 372839 jojo thoughts and theories in my head all these months? a mystery #(actually it's just that my little brother and sister have been watching too so we discuss it from time to time)#the geek family HEHEH i grew them in a culture

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tortured-hauntedswiftie · 1 month

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i need some moots so here are tags of fandoms I am in and things I obsess over <3

hey people ✨🫶🌷

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puthyflapps · 1 year

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Not them dying to bring Sarah back and absolutely hating their characters current plotlines 🫣🫢🤭

Carmen De La Pica Morales stans rise!

#marja Ryan Lewis and that writers room need to be cleared out #bring back Ilene chaiken and let her take a sledge hammer to this show because they’re ruining the shows legacy #was the original a little messy? Yeth but Ilene knew how to have a good time!! the show was funny and it was fun to watch and for the most #part the plot made sense AND MOST IMPORTANTLY we got to see women loving women on screen #I think MRL wanted a show where she got to write about all kinds of queer people but she couldn’t do it so she took TLW and basically piggy #backed off the name and legacy of the original show #obviously more queer stories should be told BUT TLW is supposed to be about lesbians and it’s like pulling teeth to get them to show 2 #ladies kissing like why can’t we have a sexy fun time????#and not to sound like an old fart but showrunners and writers nowadays ig think that they have to inject politics into everything and I hate #when gen q tries to broach these topics because I’m not here to learn about theory bitch I’m here to see these gals get their puthies ate #the original definitely had moments that were a little political but it never tried to center that – they just wanted to show the lives of #lesbians the way that str8 shows depicted the lives of str8 people and I loved that #moral of the story: if they want a s4 they need to kick some people to the mf curb and get back to what made the original so fun and special #and obviously as I always say: BRING CARMEN BACK YOU COWARDS!!!!#the l word #the l word gen q #kate moennig #leisha hailey #sarah shahi #sharmen #shane x carmen #pants podcast

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eveneechan · 1 year

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The meaning of shoes exchange symbolism on Little Women (2022)

Shoes exchange is important element in series.

Each time someone do shoes exchange, they receive things (from act of love), but they gave away things too (result of bad omen)

The director mentioned giving shoes is act of love.

But there's old supersition that said give shoes means give bad omen.

Both indeed applied here. Let's analyze it

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Started when Injoo's pink heels got broken. Hwayoung offering her sneakers so Injoo could comfortable walk to hills.

After arrive at hills, Hwayoung offering Injoo her Bruno Zumino, so Injoo could feel confident playing rich at resto.

Kinda back a bit to Injoo's broken pink heels, it's like foreshadow of Red Shoes and bad things around it in future.

These were first hint of symbolisms:

Heels = rich life, but there's danger

Sneakers = simple, but comfortable life

Injoo later give the sneakers back to Hwayoung, symbolizing she gave away comfortable life in exchange to have the Bruno Zumino (rich play & money)

We know what happen next after Injoo receive the heels and give away the sneakers:

Hwayoung give Injoo her luxurious yoga membership + Bruno Zumino heels + 2B Won! And hoping Injoo could live at her dream apartment with her sisters (act of love)

But in exchange, Injoo need to use it all wisely or her life in danger (bad omen)

But we know Injoo, she's reckless (and we love her for that)

When Inhye said she will going to Boston for study, Injoo immediately came to Sangah's house. She's wearing Bruno Zumino and offering the money to Sangah for Inhye's school

At this moment, Injoo's dangerous life is started; Sangah - aka the main villain - found out Injoo has the money and still close with Hwayoung all this time

Yes, seems like Sangah didn't know Hwayoung still close with Injoo all this time

Hwayoung probably realise Sangah tried to "playing" with Injoo if she know Injoo close with her.

That's why Hwayoung tried to make her friendship with Injoo as secret to fooling Sangah and to protect Injoo

But now Sangah know that Injoo still close with Hwayoung - just like what she planned since beginning for her play.

Sangah restarted her discontinued play and continuing her plan to playing Injoo's life.

Meanwhile at Singapore, Hwayoung just realise her plan to make her friendship with Injoo as secret was failed and Sangah tried to play Injoo's life, when she read the manipulated article that Sangah prepare to lure Injoo to Singapore to find her

Hwayoung knew immediately Injoo must be in danger and tried her best to protect her; by throw herself in between car and truck, tell Injoo to run, reporting Injoo's littering, and the most important thing:

Hwayoung took Injoo's heels and exchange it with her sneakers;

It's symbolism of Hwayoung took back all bad omens (heels) that Injoo received and give back the comfort (sneakers) to Injoo

Hwayoung back to Korea after recovered to save Injoo from being punished over her mistake, and receive the punishment

Injoo is now free and situation started back to normal (she wear sneakers in last ep)

But Injoo choose to leave and back to save Hwayoung, who got kidnapped by Sangah bcs she still on dangerous life zone (she still wear the heels)

Conclusion:

Shoes exchange is symbolism of series' main theme: capitalism;

Because in order to give/receive something, there's something that you need to pay

But at same time, shoes exchange is also symbolism of act of love between Injoo and Hwayoung

Both Hwayoung and Injoo are very similar. They grew up in similar poverty condition that made them understand each other and could feel each others' pain; it got symbolized on how they have same shoes size, and many of their shot are like they are half to each other, or looks same

It made them want to share things to each other because that condition; and it got symbolized through shoes exchange

But sadly, in world of capitalism, there's things that they need to pay; and it got symbolized through their matching scars - symbol of battle scars that they receive because "the shoes exchange"

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