do you think billdip is a proship? cause some account with ships of mable and dipper did some proship month thing and included billdip. it made me feel weird cause billdip is nothing like proship :<
I just go by this definition:
If I had to label it, I'd call Billdip proship for sure. You really need to consider what often goes into the classic billdip dynamic; all the tropes and cliches that give it a particular flavor, as well as a "problematic" flare.
Your typical "Bill Takes Over the World and Dipper Makes a Deal That Saves His Family But Now He Belongs To Bill" fics, or the ones where Bill turns Dipper evil or just straight up possesses his body. Most of what Billdip is revolves around a power imbalance. If not, it's Bill being pushy and possessive. It's important to note that what's "problematic" varies between viewers, and while most Billdip shippers probably don't pay any mind to it, it's good to keep in mind that those who don't are going to process this relationship through the lense of canon. They don't see what we see. Explain what Billdip is to anyone out of the loop, and they imagine a 12 year old boy and a literal triangle.
The term "Proship" in of itself it pretty subjective. It really depends on where you draw the line, if at all. That being said, I've gotten pretty deep into things, and I'd say Billdip's one of those ships that doesn't have any particular Does or Don't, fandom-wise. Gore, sexual slavery, manipulation, age gaps, power imbalances. It's very prevalent in the Billdip community, and I'd go so far as to say it seldom pulls punches. Which I love.
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♣ + gaya and evan tbh
Gaya and Evan, Buenos Aires, Summer 2024.
A secret polyamorous relationship : they don't really fit the expectations their families have for them. Evan doesn't want to walk into the steps his father. Gaya neither, she wants to stand on her own. Money, power, heritage, get married, have kids : that's not for them. Are we ... Deviant? Or are we like, fucked up? Like there's no way out for us? It takes a little bit of exploring and questionning for Gaya to understand that she only feels good with her lovers. Evan, he's so free and she becomes a little more free when she's with him. It turns me on when I watch you kiss him. Do it again. She whispers to him with eyes she only gives to them, the lobe of his ear in between her teeth. What we do here, they can never know.
Send me ♣ + a ship and i’ll tell you…
Who is the better dancer?
Evan is the better dancer, especially due to his hispanic heritage and being a stuntman as well. He is naturally at ease in his body, fast on his feet, comfortable. He makes fun of Gaya for how stiff her dancing is : waltz is so boring. In the summer in South America, they dance on the beach. Gaya moves well, too well, she is suave and moves her hips perfectly to the rythm. "When did you get this good?" He questions. " Maybe I've been taking classes behind your back to outdance you and well, prove you wrong." She says wrapping her arms around his neck, pulling him closer. "God you're a maniac." He says. " Mmmm I knowww." She with a grin as she kisses him.
Who likes the outdoors more and who likes the indoors more?
Evan likes the outdoors more, in fact he's constantly : in the outdoors! If his skin is used to the sun and he gets this beautiful tan that Gaya likes a lot - Gaya on the other hand has a very sensitive skin and often wears caps whenever outside with him to protect it. Gaya enjoys the indoors more so she can have all the privacy she needs when its just them.
Who’s a cat person and who’s a dog person?
They both a dog person. Evan is confortable around them and they are comfortable around him as well. Gaya is into big dogs, the Kangs have many dogs they go hunting with. Yes, she likes Big Scary Dogs (grrr) - but often ends up with Navi snoozing on her thighs, that's Evan's bunny.
Who’s more social?
Evan is definitly more social, in fact during gatherings, people naturally go to him to talk to him. Gaya does have her fair share of handshakes due to her being the Kang heiress but conversations with her turn shorter. "Ugh I feel... Silly caring about that but. People don't really like me, right? I can tell. I feel out of place, sometimes. You're just so good at this - I'm not." She would confide in him. "Nonsense. Come on." He would tell her while bringing her into conversations with him, helping her feel more comfortable.
Who makes the bed every morning?
Housekeepers would usually make the beds but since their relationship stays away from the public eye, Gaya takes care of it and she tidies the room.
Who likes to keep the house cold and who likes to keep the house warm?
Evan likes the house warm as he lived in warm places meanwhile Gaya never turns up the heater. She complains a lot about it at first, Evan turning the heater on all the time : "Ugh WHY is it a Billion degrees in here? EVAN? EVAN?!" Yes she is annoying but she soon understands with the room being this hot, he walks around shirtless which is one of her favorite views. "Yeah you know what, Nevermind~"
Who takes longer getting ready?
They get ready together but they always end up getting distracted, sometimes they even mess around a bit while undresssing each other so it takes literally forever to get ready.
Who likes scary movies and who likes funny ones?
Evan being curious and talkative often talks during movies no matter what genre it is, questions regarding cinema in general or the themes picked in the movie, or theories - Which Gaya loves and replies to all the time, they can have endless passionnate debates while matching a movie which would annoy anybody watching it with them : " Can. You. Both. Shut the fuck up." Their friends would say.
Who screams when they see a bug and who ends up killing it?
None of them scream.
Who is more technology challenged?
None.
Who would be more likely to burn something in the kitchen?
Gaya does not know how to cook to save her life. However, the less they let help and housekeepers interfere into their lives as they want their privacy the more she watches Evan cook for them in the kitchen. "Can you stir that for me?" He asks when taking care of something else yet when he returns 5 minutes later : it's half burned. "IT WAS JUST A STIR GAYA-"
"YOU DIDNT SPECIFY THE SPEED NOR THE DIRECTION OF THE ROTATION OF THE STIR- HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO ALL THAT??"
Who talks in their sleep?
Gaya talks into her sleep and it's usually very concerning, death threats towards everyone she knows. Evan listens, well, concerned but perhaps as long as she doesn' say his name it's fine......
Who leaves the cap off the toothpaste?
None? It's not hard to close the goddamn toothpaste.
Who likes getting dressed up more?
They both don't necessarily overthink the way they dress nor are addicted to clothes and appearances in general. But hey obviously both have their own styles and the effortless vibe to carry it.
Who’s better at tying ties?
Gaya takes care of tying Evan's ties whenever he wears one for a formal event, she likes doing so. They often chat when she does.
Who recorded the answering machine message on the house phone?
They once recorded an answering machine message when being completely wasted and they 100% forgot about it until someone who called tell them. "Guys... About the answering message on both of your phones... What was that about?" And they suddenly remember they did That. "Fuck-" "Ok so for how long..."
Who’s better at planning romantic things?
Evan is. He doesn't necessarily plan "things". Him being spontaneous actually simply lead them to share simple times together in places that happen to be romantic : on a roof, in the grass, after a long drive, in a foreign country, on a beach. He cannot stay still and so whenever she follows him, adventures naturally follow and it does feel romantic.
Who takes up more space in the closet?
They both take so much space in the closet due to the tons of clothes they receive from brands. Also Evan's clothes are a little more fun than Gaya's who mostly wears woman suits, a lot of black and white even though she has pretty dresses. Sometimes she would grab one of his shirts to lounge in them. She looks a little more gentle , a little solfter when she wears his colors.
Who has more of a sweet tooth?
Gaya has a sweet tooth but doesn't admit it so whenever he happens to order a piece of cake or whatever, she pretends she wants to "taste" but ends up eating all of it.
Who drinks more often?
They both drink often as they often celebrate or often attend events and gatherings. They also have parties on their own, in their hotel rooms for example and like to get tipsy and have fun.
Who is most likely to laugh during a serious situation?
Evan is. Which causes Gaya to tell him to Be Serious. Gaya is Oh so serious however, he clearly has a positive impact on her which causes her to laugh as well when he starts laughing. So in the end, it's both of them laughing.
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im thinking abt zero constructs again and i think its tough to really communicate the Vibe i want it to have but also i maybe never talked about it super in depth?
but anyway as a thesis statement it's mostly about how much faith you put into the evidence of your senses, and also the intrinsic gulf of understanding between all people. there's a fundamental youness to every person that never quite gets communicated through interactions. and then imagine the youness was erased from reality entirely, and then something else came in, a blank slate, unmolded clay, and tried to reconstruct the you out of the them; out of what everyone else thinks that person was like.
say the slate can perceive those thoughts and those preconceptions perfectly. could they be a perfect you even just from an external pov? how many people could they convince that they were the one they were replacing? because they can perfectly mimic what the other expects them to be like—but that's regardless of whether or not that perception is correct. they have no idea if that conversation partner misperceives them, is overlaying their own biases or malformed beliefs onto the personal idea of them.
so that's dusk and helic. continually-updating copies of deleted people, trying to convince society at large that they haven't changed at all.
meanwhile they're cooking in these bad templates, all these people who half-know them or don't know them at all, immediately judging them based on a scarce glance. meanwhile that snap judgement becomes a part of them because they're such well-polished prisms, they're made to be mirrors.
and then barry and emmet show up, and after months-to-years of these bad copies, they're faced with the two people who know their original basis better than anyone in all the world. and oh god, oh fuck, they had it all wrong. they've got to scramble in the milliseconds they're given to try and throw up a better front; how was dusk supposed to guess how much dawn liked touch, that it would be immediately and distressingly wrong for her to not tackle-hug her friend after so much time apart? how was helic supposed to intuit that it wasn't just a resting face, ingo never really smiled, but his subtle-shift version of a 'smile' was immediately recognizable to his loved ones anyway? they didn't know, they were perfect mirrors but they didn't ever really know—
...on the other end of this, though. the b-side and the first thesis. you thought you lost the most important person in the world and now they're standing in front of you again, and you, right now, gun to your head, say that they're not real. it's not even a matter of wanting, this isn't about pretending to themselves because they want it to be true. it's just that—it's been a while, they've gone through so much, and so much more importantly, what if you're wrong? are you willing to gamble on the chance that you've just told the real them you've changed so much that i don't even recognize you as yourself anymore?
but more generally "i think they've been replaced by a construct" is a completely bonkers thing to say about someone unprompted. if we're talking snap judgements then humans really prefer it when things go how they expect. it makes way more sense for the thing that walks like dawn and talks like dawn to actually be dawn, ditto with ingo. so then the question becomes, once they get cozy with that assumption, how much doubt does it take to make that mental jump? how high do you need to stack the differences before it tips?
on both sides it's about believing one thing, without even really having to think about it because duh, of course, and then the slow realization creeps up on you from behind, that the entire time, you've been horribly wrong.
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