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egnaroo · 2 years
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Terrible news Ezra Miller, the star of "The Flash,"  gets jailed again in 2022.
Terrible news Ezra Miller, the star of “The Flash,”  gets jailed again in 2022.
Better known for pulse-pounding and armrest-griping cinematic creations Ezra Miller rose to fame as one of the most sought-after actors. No doubt that struck by Cupid’s Arrow, thousands of girls fall in love with him.  Ezra, born on 30 September 1992 in Wyckoff, New Jersey started his acting life in 2008 with his maiden cinematic appearance in After School directed by Antonio Campos. Talent, as…
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sassylittlecanary · 10 months
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You can argue the merits of either JL cut all you want, but Zack Snyder and Joss Whedon are both sexist filmmakers. Their sexism just manifests itself differently.
Whedon did the stereotypically sexist close-up shots of Diana’s butt and had Barry fall with his face in her cleavage. His filmmaking style utilized women as objects.
But Snyder’s the one who put the Amazons in glorified bikinis and looked at the “5 men:1 woman” ratio and thought “Yup!! Gender equality achieved!” as though there aren’t like fifty other female superheroes who could’ve been added to the team like in the comics. His filmmaking style tokenized female representation in an already-male dominated genre.
Both versions cater to the male gaze, just in different ways.
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claudia1829things · 2 years
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Warner Brothers’ Failure
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WARNER BROTHERS’ FAILURE
I now see why Warner Brothers Studios had failed to create a plausible shared universe with comic book movies.  The studio's decisions regarding the DCEU have been inconsistent for the past five years . . . ever since it had decided to use Joss Whedon to chop up "Justice League" and pass it off as a MCU film.  If there was a moment when the DCEU began to die, it was the release of "Justice League" in 2017.  "Zack Snyder's Justice League" gave the studio an opportunity to continue with the Justice League/Darkseid story arc, but the WB idiots refused to grab that opportunity.  Warner Bros has been trying to repeat the success of Disney's MCU.  But apparently, the studio lacked the patience to achieve this.  Like many moviegoers and television viewers today, it wants instant gratification.  Warner Bros failed to recall that it took Disney six films to really solidify the MCU with the release of "The Avengers".  Unfortunately for the MCU, it seems to me that it has been in the process of experiencing a slow death since 2016, with the release of "Captain America: Civil War".
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they-re-not-dolls · 2 years
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gilgadusimp · 2 years
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Warner: let's boycott Ray Fisher and make a movie only with Ezra Miller The karma gods:
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artist-issues · 2 years
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Joss Whedon and Faith
You know, I noticed that between Firefly, Avengers, and Agents of SHIELD, there’s always one or two exciting Christian themes,
You know, like how in Avengers, Cap says, “‘There’s only one God, ma’am.” That’s a very Christian line. Like, you have to have at least spent some time around Christians, who are staunchly monotheistic and would actually say something like this, to write THAT line instead of something vaguer and more stereotypical which a thousand other writers might’ve added.
Or how in Firefly you have Shepherd Book and his line about “you don’t fix faith, River. Faith fixes you.” And in SHIELD you’ve got Mack (and Elena) who both are characterized as Christians; and Mack even says at one point, when a villain is ranting about judgement or something, “‘I guess you’re not a New Testament kinda guy.”
So I got curious. And I thought, “this guy is at least curious about Christianity, enough to know some real things about it and about Christians. Or else he wouldn’t choose to write characters this way.”
Then I looked it up. And apparently, if Joss Whedon actually believes what he says he believes (which is doubtful; it’s certainly not true when it comes to his proclaimed feminism) he’s not only an atheist but an existentialist and an absurdist.
Which makes sense. Because when you look back at how he writes his “Christian” characters, you realize that they’re all missing something. Real faith. I’m not talking about Captain Mal and his abandonment of his beliefs, although I could.
I mean, with the exception of Cap, all the characters I mentioned up there. Joss writes the wisest of his Christians, like Shepherd and Mack, as if they don’t believe Christianity is the only truth. He writes them as if they, themselves, understand that their “faith” is just what gets them through the day. A coping mechanism. A crutch.
And Joss Whedon has said “I think faith is an extraordinary thing. I’d like to have some, but I don’t, and that’s just how it works.” Which, first of all, is such a cop-out, because you’re managing to sound very complimentary toward Christians, like they have a special superpower you don’t have. But you don’t believe there is a God. Because you’re an atheist, Joss. So what you’re actually saying is, “It’s extraordinary that they’re able to dupe themselves into thinking something is real that isn’t. Must be nice to live in denial like that. I wish I could be less honest and smart, and dupe myself, too, but I just can’t. I’m too real.”
Ugh.
And that’s my point. Joss doesn’t actually understand faith, or he’d realize he has it already.
“Faith” is believing what you know to be true, even if you don’t have all the answers. It’s not believing what you HOPE is true even if you don’t have all the answers. Because then everyone would believe in Santa Claus. “I don’t know how his reindeer fly, but I just really like the sound of Santa, so I hope he’s real so much that I’m going to ignore that.”
That’s not faith. Faith is sitting down in a chair. It’s saying, “I may not know what wood that chair is made of; I may not know who made it; I may not know how much weight it is designed to carry. But I’m sitting down in it because I can see that it has four legs, it is in a public space where people have sat before, and I have sat down and been held up by chairs in the past.” It’s taking what you KNOW is true and acting accordingly, not taking what you HOPE is true and acting accordingly.
Everything you do during the day requires faith! Cross the street without getting hit by a car, or swallowed by a sand pit. Drive your car without getting hit or having the engine spontaneously explode. Put on a shirt without it unraveling. You don’t KNOW everything about the air you’re breathing, or the car you drive, or the clothes you put on. You don’t even know 100% of what’s happening in your own body 100% of the time. But you act according to what you DO know. That is called faith; it is also called acting according to reality. Everybody has “faith.” It just depends on WHAT you have faith in. Because guess what? I could put my faith in the chair and it could crumble and snap and dump me on the floor. Then I put my faith in the wrong thing. Maybe I should’ve gathered more true facts to base my faith on first.
You could put your faith in the wrong god. The God of the Bible isn’t that.
It’s not a crutch, it’s not a coping mechanism worldview, it’s recognizing reality and responding accordingly. It’s saying, “I read the Bible, and it’s claims are the only thing that make sense of the objectively true things around me, so I have to either believe it or live in denial of truth.”
Because then when something really bad happens, you can fall back on what you know is true. There is a God, specifically the God of the Bible, and I can know that He is real and He is good because there is more TRUTH in favor of those two facts than there is on the opposite side.
So yeah, Joss Whedon doesn’t understand faith. Is what I’m saying.
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dccomicsnews · 2 years
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Hope (?) For Henry Cavill's Future as Superman in Warner's 10-year DC Plan
Hope (?) For Henry Cavill’s Future as Superman in Warner’s 10-year DC Plan
Hope may still exist for actor Henry Cavill’s involvement in future Superman films. Reports indicate Warner Discovery are strongly leaning towards Cavill reprising the role of the Man of Steel. The following excerpts are from an interview with insiders Umberto Gonzales from The Wrap: Gonzalez: The Multiverse has to stay, if they want to keep [Supergirl actress] Sasha Calle and bring back a new…
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ljones41 · 2 years
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Neil Turitz on Synderverse Fans
I read this article written by columnist Neil Turitz about Snyderverse fans titled “The Accidental Turitz: Warner Bros. Learned the Hard Way Not to Give Zack Snyder’s Rabid Fans What They Want”.  
When did Snyderverse fans develop this reputation for being rabid or bullies?  Because they had instigated a campaign for Warner Brothers Studio to allow Zack Snyder to release his own version of “Justice League” . . . after the 2017 movie was butchered by Joss Whedon and Geoff Johns?  I mean . . . the movie was butchered.  Very few people will deny it.  Snyderverse fans are not the first and last fan base to use petitions to get what they want.  
Fans of the CBS series, “Jericho” had embarked on a campaign and submitted a petition to convince the network to overturn their decision to cancel the series and give it a second season.  I don’t recall anyone describing them as “rabid”, “fanatic” or bullies.  So, why did the media decide to dump these labels on Snyderverse fans?  And why was it a crime to request or demand, if you will, that a director’s original vision of a movie is given a chance to be seen?  Because that is all many of these fans wanted.  And nothing else.
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rogersstevie · 1 year
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gar: two hours ago i was inside a stomach trying to kill a ghost snake kory: and two hours before that we were fighting zombies tim: and i kissed bernard dick: big night for everyone
GOD i love this show sm
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stefanoavvisati69 · 9 months
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Un ex dirigente del DCEU ha appena chiarito quanto siano stati redditizi i film di Zack Snyder per la Warner Bros.
Snyder ha iniziato il DCEU con Man of Steel, con Henry Cavill, nel 2013. Il film ha incassato 668 milioni di dollari in tutto il mondo, un miglioramento di 277 milioni di dollari rispetto a Superman Returns del 2006. Continue reading Untitled
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"Viv and the Lackadaisy team solved everything like adults, didn't any of you haters watch the GlitchX livestream?"
First off, I love how people are so sure that Viv and her inner circle aren't still continuing to talk shit about other indie projects on Discord or that Viv isn't still liking tweets from hardcore stans that harassed the Lackadaisy team.
And second, why are you acting like celebrities who don't like each other can't put aside their differences when it comes to public events?
Ray Fisher put aside his hatred for Joss Whedon to promote the godawful theatrical cut of Justice League at press junkets back in 2017, Bret Hart still showed up to give a speech at the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony back in 2006 even though his relationship with the company was still sour at the time, and everyone who ever had the misfortune of working with Justin Roiland had to pretend like they liked the guy in public because they didn't want to get fired or blacklisted.
Also, I have a hard time believing that the GlitchX organizers didn't have a sit down with both parties beforehand. Because I seriously doubt the Lackadisy crew would have agreed to do the livestream if they didn't know that Viv was gonna be participating beforehand.
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Is It Really That Bad?
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I don’t think I’ve ever felt like the universe actively conspired against something until I witnessed the production of The Flash.
Since 1991 there have been quite a few proposals for Flash movies, but they never really got off the ground for whatever reason. Following Barry’s debut in Justice League, a movie finally was announced before multiple delays due to rewrites, in particular to cut Ray Fisher’s Cyborg from the story after he went public about the awful shit he had to deal with under Joss Whedon. Things seemed hopeless until It director Andy Muschietti came onboard, at which point production on the film finally started to go smoothly. Sure, there were rumblings about Ezra Miller having episodes on set, but that’s just typical actor nonsense, right? Surely it couldn’t get any worse!
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Look, I’m here to review a movie so I’ll keep this brief: Miller committed crimes. Lots of crimes. So many, in fact, you’d think they were method acting for the role of Reverse-Flash. The thing is, despite all of this, Miller was basically given a slap on the wrist by the studio, being forbidden from doing promos and press tours (oh no! The horror!). And as if the situation wasn’t already a fucking mess, while Miller’s crime spree was ongoing WB canned the nearly-complete Batgirl movie that featured Michael Keaton and Academy Award-winning actor Brendan Fraser while simultaneously inflating The Flash’s budget to nearly $300 million with reshoots. It seems baffling to cancel a movie that was nearly done and that people were marginally interested in for the sake of a movie that people were losing interest in quickly due to its star’s erratic behavior, but remember: Leslie Grace isn’t white, while Ezra Miller is. WB is never beating those racism allegations at this rate.
With a normal movie, this is where the nonsense ends. BUT WAIT, THERE’S MORE!
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This film was meant to smooth out the clusterfuck continuity of the “Snyderverse” with a soft reboot, with Henry Cavill filming a end-of-movie cameo alongside Miller, Gal Gadot, Keaton, and Supergirl’s actress Sasha Calle to establish the new direction of DC going forward. Unfortunately, the hierarchy of power at DC changed, and Gunn shot that down. While this meant the ending would probably not get people confused with regards to upcoming projects, it also meant the movie wasn’t going to really have any closure for the old universe. Affleck, Cavill, and who knows who else are just gone, and the future is just a big old question mark. At least Aquaman is safe, maybe?
Literally none of this news was very reassuring to fans. Nothing above is any good for a film’s perception to audiences under normal circumstances, but here we have all this news coming to a fanbase that genuinely did not want this fucking movie. The DCEU was already divisive when the film was announced, and Miller’s portrayal of Barry doubly so; the fact it was adapting Flashpoint was seen as lazy and uninspired, not to mention its not really a story that lets Flash stand on his own merits, making it seem more like this movie was just an excuse to reboot; it was a multiverse story in a day and age with an abundance of such stories, and it was releasing around the same time as Across the Spider-Verse to boot; and Gunn’s reboot plans meant this story was likely a narrative dead end. This movie had an uphill battle the likes of which haven’t been seen since Sisyphus.
But much like that mythological figure, the boulder came crashing right back down when the numbers came in. The movie would likely need to gross $500 million at minimum to break even after factoring in the reshoots and advertising, and it only managed half of that with a pitiful opening weekend followed by a massive 73% drop. It now sits alongside films like The Lone Ranger and Mortal Engines as one of the most expensive bombs in history, to the point where WB would have saved more money by cancelling it like they did with Batgirl. And despite glowing praise from the likes of Tom Cruise and Stephen King, it received middling reviews from mainstream critics.
Audiences haven’t been any less mixed, but considering most people weren’t particularly excited or invested in this film’s existence this is basically a miracle. Sure, there’s plenty of people out there saying this is the “worst comic book movie ever” like they do every time a new superhero movie drops, but even more people are saying they enjoyed the film… although even they tend to have some severe criticisms.
Even though I knew most of what was going to happen in the movie going in, I wasn’t really sure what to expect given everything surrounding the movie. But you know me, I’m willing to give almost any movie a chance, and bombs this big don’t happen every day, so even before it was voted on I was trying to make time to check it out. So sit down, microwave yourself a snack—
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—and watch as I try and determine if The Flash is really that bad.
THE GOOD
The biggest shock of this film is that Ezra Miller is actually really good here.
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Their Barry is still a bit of a goofball, but he’s clearly matured as a character since his precious appearances. They managed to make him much more charming and likable than he ever was, and this gets compounded when he interacts with the younger Barry and gets confronted with how annoying he was before. I think young Barry could have come off as really insufferable, but the fact he annoys everyone around him and also ends up maturing makes him a lot more endearing.
Miller really kills it with the emotional moments, particularly the ending encounter with Barry’s mom and the scene where old Barry snaps at young Barry. The film is really carried by the dramatic, emotional moments far more than any of the superheroics, and Miller manages to sell a lot of it very well. It was to the point where I started thinking, “I really wouldn’t mind if they stick around.” Then a scene where Barry says the Justice League has no real psychiatric help or where his younger self ends up repeatedly exposing himself in public by accident happens, and then I remembered, “Oh yeah, aren’t they a mentally unwell criminal?”
Unsurprisingly, Michael Keaton absolutely kills it in his role as Batman, but much more shockingly is that Ben Affleck's brief return as Bruce is pretty great as well. I always thought Affleck, much like Henry Cavill, was desperately trying to give a great performance while weighed down by bad writing; here, he gets an actual poignant scene where he talks to Barry about how dwelling on tragedies isn't the way to do things, and you should try and move forward instead. It shows he really could have been great if given better material to work with.
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Okay, enough being nice to Affleck, I wanna talk about Keaton again. As much as the marketing hyped him up and as much as he is obviously the most blatant fanservice possible, it's still so cool to see him in the suit again. I am not immune to nostalgia pandering, and as corny as it could have been from anyone else, the zoom into his face when he says The Line really is a highlight of the movie. Keaton has a great deal of charisma, and while there are issues with Batman they aren't his fault at all. Most impressively, he doesn't steal the show away from Miller like I thought he would; he enhances the scenes he's in without stealing the spotlight completely from their performance. I feel like this is a problem in a lot of movies like this, where the lead gets overshadowed by a hyped up character, but somehow The Flash of all things managed to avoid this.
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And as bad as the cameos could get, this movie gave two of the greatest cameos ever put to film with the return of the GOAT George Clooney Batman and, best of all, Nicolas Cage Superman from the unmade Superman Lives, fighting a giant spider to the death just as God intended. I am not immune to the charms of Nicolas Cage.
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Overall, this movie presents us with a solid story, plenty of fun moments, great character dynamics, and more... for the first two acts, anyway.
THE BAD
Once this movie hits the third act, it basically just loses any and all focus and becomes a big dumb video game-esque battle against Zod and his forces in a bland desert landscape. While both Barrys admittedly get some pretty cool moments sprinkled in and Keaton’s Batman’s second death is actually a well done emotional moment, Supergirl ends up being completely wasted, with her sole role being to angrily scream and then die repeatedly.
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This actually highlights the problem with Kara in this movie: She’s basically nothing but a plot device and has zero personality, and a good 80% of her dialogue is just angry screaming. As hot as Sasha Calle is and how much she obviously wants to make Kara compelling, she is given so little to work with that her efforts end up being fruitless. She does nothing of consequence after helping Barry get his powers back, and could be replaced or written out of the story and it would still make perfect sense.
Zod’s inclusion is pretty baffling as well, especially since they chose to water down one of the only good things from Man of Steel into a boring, generic doomsday villain. You can really feel that poor Michael Shannon would rather be doing anything else, and his bored performance just highlights how poorly implemented Zod is in the plot. Like, the Fladh has some of the best and most colorful DC villains in his rogues gallery, one’s that are often overlooked because Batman’s villains sell more toys. Why not highlight some of them instead of taking a Superman villain and stripping him of all personality to the point the actor clearly has no passion for the role? Cutting Zod would make cutting Supergirl even easier, and then two of the biggest problems with the movie are gone!
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The third act does manage to mostly rerail itself once it goes back to Barry trying to unfuck the timeline, with only a disgustingly egregious bit of fanservice that I’ll discuss in the next section hampering it. But at the end, despite the incredibly based George Clooney cameo, there’s just so many unresolved and unanswered questions, with the biggest one being who killed Barry’s mom? Considering her death is what kickstarted the whole plot, you’d think this might come up, but it never does. A lot of other things come up and get dropped too, like whatever was going on with Batman in the opening, but maybe I’m just crazy for wanting elements introduced in a plot to have significance beyond just being there to be cool.
Even beyond that, there’s the fact that Supergirl and Keaton!Batman’s final fates are never really resolved, something that apparently wasn’t a problem in early versions of the film since they showed up alive in the final scene. As much as I loved seeing Clooney, I think trading him for getting some closure for Keaton and Calle would have been more satisfying.
Everyone harps on how bad the CGI is—and it absolutely is, don’t get me wrong—but for the most part I found it endearingly bad. Like the opening with the CGI babies? That’s too goofy for me to hate. But once the movie revolves into bland grey and black CGI bad guys and creepy deepfake celebrity cameos, I stop being quite so forgiving.
Oh, and on the subject of cameos, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one as pointless and unfunny as Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman showing up out of nowhere (complete with theme music) to make Bruce and Barry look like dumb assholes. Imagine thinking this was a good idea.
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THE UGLY
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The biggest point of contention surrounding this movie is the CGI necromancy used in the aforementioned cameo clusterfuck from the climax, which gives us George Reeve, Christopher Reeves, and Adam West posthumously reprising their DC roles in non-speaking appearances (there’s archived audio from West, but his cameo isn't really focused on to the point you can barely tell it's him) where they just stand there before the camera swoops around like in that Saul Goodman gif.
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I think this is one of the very few times where I actually think the outrage is mostly justified. To be clear, I’m not getting mad on behalf of dead celebrities I never knew, and as long as the filmmakers went through the proper channels and the estates of these stars were properly compensated, I don’t have any legal objections. All of my distaste is coming from a subjective, moral standpoint.
I have never liked this CGI necromancy ever since Rogue One popularized it. I find it really gross and distasteful, and in most cases I think finding a lookalike actor would be preferable than playing Weekend at Bernie’s with a computer generated facsimile of a dead person. In The Flash, I understand having lookalikes would diminish the wow factor of the crossover, but there was an extremely easy workaround to this: Have cameos from all the living DC stars.
Was Brandon Routh not available to put on the Superman tights? Would it have been so bad to let Grant Gustin pop in for a cameo? They acknowledge Helen Slater, so why not Melissa Benoist? Hell, if you want to reference bad, campy movies, have Shaq show up as Steel or Josh Brolin pop in as Jonah Hex! Or even Ryan Reynolds, I’d bet he’d be down to return if you gave him a real suit this time!
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Like there’s just no excuse for ghoulishly parading around dead guys when there’s so many alive guys you could use instead. People can complain all they want about the fanservice and cameos in the past few Spider-Man films, but at least they only had returning characters played by living actors. And when this movie already has the niche, out-there Nic Cage Superman cameo, proving they were down to do things as out there and inoffensively creative as reference unmade movies, it’s really just inexcusable. It doesn’t ruin the movie for me, but it makes me lose a bit of respect for the people who okayed this over less offensive cameo ideas.
IS IT REALLY THAT BAD?
To my surprise, this film actually turned out to be pretty good. Not “great,” not “the best superhero movie ever,” but genuinely mostly good and enjoyable.
My opinion is that the movie is good in spite of itself. The third act is truly a hot mess, the stupid desert battle against Zod is awful and boring, Supergirl is depressingly pointless, so many plot points are just dropped or otherwise forgotten, and the CGI necromancy is nothing short of ghoulish. But the rest of the movie is truly a lot of fun. Barry and his younger self have a fun dynamic, Keaton really manages to take what little he’s given and show that he’s still got it as Batman, the Clooney and Cage cameos were delightful, and most importantly the emotional moments are actually effective.
I think with a bit more polish this film could have actually lived up to the hype around it. There is a great movie in here being suffocated by fanservice and CGI but still managing to get a few gasps of air regardless. I think if they’d kept the conflict more grounded or made Reverse-Flash the primary antagonist, things might have turned out better.
I think its score is pretty fair. My friend @huyh172 described this as “the worst good DC movie,” and it’s an assessment I fully agree with. It’s not as good as Aquaman, Wonder Woman, The Suicide Squad, the Snyder Cut, or Shazam!, and it’s definitely not as bad as stuff like Wonder Woman 1984 or Josstice League. It’s also a bit too enjoyable to be mid. It’s just a really solid movie held back from true greatness by some damning flaws… and really, that makes it the perfect capstone to the "Snyderverse," a cinematic universe that had some solid movies but was held back from greatness by incredibly bad ones.
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reginaldqueribundus · 2 years
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this is so funny. Aquaman has defected to the other side. he's literally the only one left. Ben Affleck would rather do anything else than play Batman again. Ezra Miller and Gal Gadot are too busy abducting teenagers and defending Israeli war crimes, respectively, and if Ray Fisher ever sets foot on a Warner Bros lot again it'll be so he can blast Joss Whedon with an actual laser cannon.
the curtains open on Justice League: Omega War or whatever and it's just the guy who played Martian Manhunter in the Snyder cut, talking about how happy he is to be there
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