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#it took the entire movie of conflict to get loki to destroy jotunheim and he was crying and it wasn't even about killing the people then
worstloki · 2 years
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MCU really lost the opportunity to cash in on Loki's entire time with Thanos and the denial/reclamation of his past on Asgard and being hurt by his family and being Jotun and loving his family regardless and being a master sorcerer like wow what part of his identity did the show cash in on exactly
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xsandramx · 5 years
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Stay p.22
Why, Hello! How are you guys? So, another chapter, Hope you like it! As always tell me what you think! And many thanks for reading this crap!!
Disclaimer: don’t own marvel… sadly
Warnings: Language
(this means it’s flashback or memory or something. Thank you!)
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Chapter 21
“Now you see me brother.” Loki says, letting go of the illusion. His cell was a mess, and he wasn’t in such a good state either. My eyes started to water. It’s been so long since I’ve seen Loki. Well, since I’ve seen a sane Loki. But again, he doesn’t look very sane to me. “Did she suffer?”
“I did not come here to share our grief. Instead I offer you the chance of a far richer sacrament.” Thor said, his voice cold.
“Go on.”
“I know you seek vengeance as much as I do. You help me escape Asgard and I will grant it to you, vengeance. And afterward, this cell.” Loki chuckled.
“You must be truly desperate to come to me for help. What makes you think you can trust me?”
“I don’t.” Thor replied shortly. “Mother did. You should know that when we fought each other in the past, I did so with a glimmer of hope that my brother was still in there somewhere. That hope no longer exists to protect you. You betray me, and I will kill you.” Loki slowly smiled.
“When do we start?” he finished, leaning his head forward. Thor smiled and turned away, looking at me. I stayed behind, as he requested. He wanted to talk to him first.
“You were right. I didn’t need your help to convince him.” Loki frowned, moving forward, trying to see who he was talking about. Thor didn’t move. Obviously, he wanted me to come to him. I hesitated. I don’t know if he wants to see me. And to be honest I’m not sure I want to see him either. We stayed in silence for some time before I started to walk towards them.
“I told you.” I said quietly, crossing my arms in front of me. When Loki recognised my voice and saw me approach them got up quickly.
“Elisabeth!”
“Well, I’ll see if there aren’t any guards coming our way, I’ll be back shortly.” Thor said, leaving us alone.
As soon as Thor was gone Loki spoke up.
“You’re not coming with us.” He said seriously.
“What the hell? This is the first time we see each other since New York and that’s the first thing you have to say to me?”
“Don’t try and change the subject Elisabeth, you won’t succeed.” He continued, starting to change his clothes.
“What are you doing?”
“I’m changing my clothes! Preparing to go!” he stated as if it was obvious.
“Are you trying to make me embarrassed so you can have the higher ground?” I yelled at him.
“If that’s what you wish to think.” He said calmly. “Just turn around if it bothers you!”
“You could’ve used magic.” I complained.
“Are you done?” he asked sarcastically.
“Shut up.” I mumbled. We stayed silent, only the sounds of him dressing were present. “Are you done?” I asked this time.
“I am.” I turned around, facing the familiar looking Loki that I once knew so well.
“Good, I’ll call Thor.” I said turning around again.
“No wait.” He called. “I am sorry Elisabeth. I never meant to hurt you. You must know that.” I stayed still, my back still facing him. “We have our differences. You must think that I’m the villain, but you do know that I’m not evil.” He continued. “You know that I’m not entirely at fault here.”
“And that’s your problem. You use the fact that you’re not the only one to blame to take the burden of everything you’ve done out of your conscience.” I inform him, turning to face him. “Loki, for once in your life can’t you make an effort to see the bigger picture?”
“And what might that be?”
“Are you serious? You could’ve destroyed one planet! Two actually if you count Jotunheim!” I sigh as I finish saying that last part. “Okay, you win! Whatever.” I started to walk away. This time he didn’t say anything. “Thor!”
 “I’m not hungry.” Jane said and Sif and I attacked. Literally.
“Good. Let’s go.” Sif said.
“You have such good lines! Oh, hi Jane!”
We then run to where we were meeting Thor and Loki. I don’t need to tell you what happened next. But that was one hell of a slap! I wish I did that!
At the end, I stayed behind like they wanted. I dreaded the moment they would return. I also knew that it would be better if I didn’t interfere. I mean, sure, Loki dies, but as always, not really. So, I decided to go to my quarters and stay there until Loki came to get me. I know that Thor won’t come because he’ll be just in a rush to get to Jane, even if he comes to talk with Odin, who is in fact Loki, the actor of the century.
After what I suppose were a few hours, I fell asleep. I woke up with a feeling that someone was watching me… Loki.
“Are you a creep now? Watching me sleep?” I said, with a sleep voice. I made a disgusted face while getting up because of my morning breath, well I don’t know if it’s morning, but my breath is bad.
“What does me watching you sleep have to do with being, as you say, a creep?” he asks, innocently.
“Wow, you almost seemed like the old Loki that I knew.” I said sarcastically, while walking to the bathroom. But, of course, as he was in the way, he stopped me.
“I still am that Loki.” The way he looked at me while saying this almost made me believe him. But the thought of his powers and that he could be using them on me, made me snap out of it.
“No, you’re not.” I whispered. I gently took my arm from his grip and walked to the bathroom.
While I was in there, I thought about my situation. I mean, any other person would’ve probably gone crazy with all this. But of course, not me, no, not Sofia. I really want to believe Loki and deep inside I know that he isn’t bad, but damn, forgiving a character in a movie from a outside perspective is much easier than when you’re inside said movie. After all this thinking, I decided that I would stay for a few days and see how this goes.
It pains me to say that Loki is actually trying to gain my trust again. And sometimes it’s like he’s a little puppy following me around. He goes with me to the library, he makes me tea and brings it to my room, he is always asking how I am and if I want to join him for a walk. So, as you guys must be thinking, there’s no need for me to say that I am also trying to get things to be as they were before. We’re friends. Even though I have not forgiven him, nor do I think that I will anytime soon.
“What are you reading?” Loki asks as he comes into my room, letting down the illusion of his father. Oh yes! I didn’t get to mention that since he’s supposed to be dead, he has to keep up the image of Odin. Even though, we both know that he’s father is no longer with us. He’s in that care home, Shady Acres I think it is called. I would be worried for Odin, and ordered Loki to bring him back, since I know that Loki would do it if I asked, he’s been as if afraid of me, but I know he’s okay. Maybe he’s even enjoying the stay.
“Pride and Prejudice.” I answer quietly. Never taking my eyes off the book.
“Fitting for the situation.” He murmurs but I ignore.
After a while of me continuing to read and him braiding my hair, which is very long now, I decided to finally ask him. And by the way, yes people, Loki braids. Quite well really. I also was surprised by this!
“Loki, I need to ask you something.” I say, closing my book and laying it on my lap.
“Of course, Elisabeth, anything.”
“I want to go back to earth.” I say calmly. I am actually a bit scared of his reaction, seeing as the last time we saw each other he kind of blamed me for the attack he did on earth.
We stayed silent for some time.
“Have I done something wrong?”
“What? No! Of course not!” I exclaimed, turning around to face him.
“Then why do you want to go back?” he asked, looking almost hurt.
“I have been here for quite a long time already, and I miss the others.” I try to explain. He looks conflicted for a while.
“As you wish.”
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ageofgeek · 6 years
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Infinity War Thoughts and Review
First, I'm going to start off with a non-spoiler review (above the read-more).
So, after seeing Infinity War last nigt, I am actually traumatized. I feel like I'm in the 5 stages of grief, and I'm still in the Denial phase because the ramifications of this movie haven't set in yet. I am still so fucking shocked by what happened in that movie. And while I will undoubtedly be entering the next phase - Anger - fairly soon, I am going to try to be somewhat coherent and logical about this, so I'm gonna talk about the movie in broad strokes (again, no spoilers!).
First of all, Marvel did a great job at balancing all of those characters. I know a lot of people were very concerned about 30+ superheroes in the same movie, but they did a great job. As much as I hate to say it, they were very smart to "center" the film around Thanos, and then use his quest to get the infinity stones as the grounding for the rest of the characters and their missions.
That being said, this movie was an emotional rollercoaster. Goddammit. Tragic, gut-wrenching moments were quickly and almost abruptly followed by Avengers-typical quips and humor, and there came a point in the movie where my brain was like: "Alright, yep, that tragic thing just happened, time to wipe your tears and move on because the movie is already 10 steps ahead of you while you're still reeling.". And while that sucked for someone like me, who wants to cherish every single one of my babies, it did create an emotional environment wherein you felt the urgency. When tragedy struck, you didn't have time to mourn or think or become angry, because the stakes were too high. And I had the feeling that what I, as an audience member, was feeling, was similar to what the characters themselves were feeling. As these awful things happened to the people that they love, Thanos is still growing more powerful every second, and those characters had to swallow painfully, maybe shed a small tear, and move on. And that was one of the most tragic parts of this movie for me: the way that things had become so dire that individual lives didn't - and couldn't - matter anymore, not even to the people who love them the most.
In general, I wouldn't say that this film was enjoyable to watch - much like I wouldn't say that open heart surgery would be enjoyable - but it was definitely an incredible film. High intensity, beautiful cinematography, some stunning visual effects (and some less so - see: Thanos' bulk and height compared to the other, non-CGI characters), and there was a real loyalty to the arcs and lives of these characters. The ramifications of Infinity War will definitely need to be addressed in the 3 Marvel films that follow (Ant-Man and Wasp, Captain Marvel, and finally Avengers 4), and I'm looking forward to theorizing frantically on the Internet for the next year as to what will happen next.
And now, let's move on to the SPOILERY discussion. AGAIN, SPOILERS ARE AHEAD: BEWARE!
God, alright, let's start at the beginning.
Opening up on the Asgardian refugee ship being attacked by Thanos, I just, god. That entire scene destroyed me, right off the bat. First of all, Heimdall's death was so upsetting (and Thor's reaction to it was so painful), but here's a question that a lot of people have been asking: What happened to Valkyrie? Did she leave the ship before they got attacked? God, I really hope Marvel doesn't give her the "Sif and Jane" treatment - it seems like women in the Thor movies always just get forgotten and brushed off, which, wtf?
But moving on - fuck, Loki's death destroyed. Right off the fucking bat, I was sobbing at this fucking movie. Goddammit. I knew that it was probably gonna happen, but it didn't make it any less painful (also, oh my god, Thor screaming through the gag when he died and then crawling over to his body and cradling him, god that FUCKED ME UP). I mean, there are already a few good theories floating around which argue that Loki could have escaped death once again (i.e. why didn't Loki's corpse revert to his Jotun form after he died? Also, why would he just foolishly try to attack Thanos with a knife? He knows Thanos' strength better than almost anyone else (except Gamora and Nebula) - he would not have just barreled ahead and attacked him! There's also the point that while Hulk and Thanos were fighting, Loki went off screen, and when he returned, he was all jovial and did the ballsy (and foolish) stab move. Why would he be that confident, unless he had a plan and had already saved himself?).  But anyway, that’s enough theorizing.  Even if Loki did die for real, I will be smiling through my tears because he died a hero.  They didn’t fuck up his character development from Ragnarok - he died trying to save his brother and his people.  He died embracing his family, and all parts of his identity (”Prince of Asgard...rightful king of Jotunheim...Odinson”).  Even if he is dead for good, I’m proud of my boy.
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Now, switch to Tony(!!!) and Pepper(!!!!!!!) jogging in Central Park, talking about their wedding and babies!!  I actually squealed during that scene.  FUCK I love them.  Also, the fact that Tony specifically mentioned that he dreamed about Pepper being pregnant makes me think that she actually is, because we’ve been told ever since Age of Ultron that Tony has somewhat prophetic dreams/visions, for some reason.  If he was right about Thanos, why isn’t he right about this?  Just saying!  (Oh god, please let Avengers 4 have Tony and Pepper’s baby).
Doctor Strange comes through the portal and we have the Science Bros reunion hug :’) God, they haven’t seen each other in 3 years, and Bruce’s confusion over the breakup of the Avengers was both funny and sad.  And Tony’s face when he says “Steve Rogers” - not “Steve” or “Cap” or “Capsicle”, but his full fucking name.  The divorce is still real and apparently, NOT RESOLVED IN THIS MOVIE because THEY NEVER EVEN FUCKING SPOKE TO EACH OTHER.  I came out of that film saying to myself, “...Wait, there wasn’t even the flip phone call?!  Bruce called Steve, and it was off screen!  What the fuck???”  Dammit, Marvel, why did you play me like this?  There better be fucking resolution to this conflict in Avengers 4.
Anyway, the first fight scene with Ebony Maw was pretty awesome, because Stephen and Wong’s magic was cool but we ALSO GOT TO SEE TONY’S NEW ARMOR!!!  Our entire theater began to cheer when his armor began to come out and aghh, it was so beautiful, I’ve been waiting 5 years for this moment!!  It seems like he still doesn’t have Extremis, but still, the nanobot armor is a great improvement (all of the phasing that that armor could do was awesome!).  And Peter’s introduction, of course, was great.  And my emotions! when Tony basically told Peter to let go of the spaceship and trust him, and Peter did and he got the Iron Spider armor!  (which, holy shit, I love it, A++).
Also, when Tony got on that ship and Pepper called and she was so upsettttt, okay, i need to move on, that was too painful
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Switch to Vision and Wanda in Scotland, POST-COITAL!!!!  FUCK my Scarlet Vision heart in this movie was fucking fulfilled and also broken, god, I love them so much.  I just, the fact that they’ve been visiting each other for 2 YEARS and secretly dating and hE ASKED HER TO STAY AND SHE DID, fuck, I love them, why is this movie so cruel to my babies?
Ok, but also, how many fucking times does Vision get stabbed in this movie?  He gets stabbed twice(?) in the fight in Scotland, and then a third time in the woods of Wakanda at the very end.  Which, there wasn’t an explanation as to how the Black Order’s weapons were able to pierce vibranium?  I guess there was kind of the implication that the bonds between Vision’s neurons/molecules were weakening, so weapons could slip through?
Anyway, the introduction of Team Cap to fight off Proxima Midnight was pretty awesome, ngl.  I pretty much forgave them at that point (although not entirely.  Still a little mad at Cap).
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But then they go home to RHODEY!  Which, yes, I grinned and wiggled in my seat when I saw my baby following in the footsteps of his best friend and pissing off Ross.  Although, still pissed that Rhodey didn’t put up more resistance to Team Cap before seemingly forgiving them?  Like, even if Rhodey forgave them for what they did to him personally, there’s no way that he wouldn’t have given them shit over what they did to Tony at the end of CACW.  Come on now, Marvel.  I have to wonder, based on what Don Cheadle said in an interview, if there are deleted scenes where Rhodey is more standoffish towards them at first.
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This is where things kinda get a little muddled in my head, because things were moving so quickly, it was difficult to keep track.
At some point, the Guardians were introduced again, and they stumbled upon Thor and split up.
Thanos took Gamora because she knew where the soul stone was, and tortured Nebula to get that info out of her.
They went to Vormir, where the soul stone was, and WHAT DO YOU FUCKING KNOW, Red Skull is there.  That cameo honestly shocked the FUCK out of me.  I sat there with my mouth open for at least a full minute, that just caused my brain to short circuit, goddamn.  I was honestly wondering if they were ever going to bring him back (since the Tesseract doesn’t necessarily kill you, it’s the space stone, it just teleported him), and his appearance in this movie actually reminded me of his role in Avengers: Assemble, when he uses one of the stones(?) to become “Cosmic Skull” or whatever?  Yeah, anyway.
So, there’s no way that Gamora is dead for real, right?  Like, that’s some bullshit.  THAT.  IS.  BULLSHIT.  MARVEL.  I don’t know if Zoe Saldana’s contract ran out, but there is at least one more Guardians movie and there’s no fucking way that she isn’t in it, come on now.  Same with Groot (although that happens at the end).  Gamora’s death feels a bit more final, though, compared with the “dust deaths” that happened at the end, so I don’t know.  Dammit, that one hit me hard (and I wanted to punch Thanos for shedding that single fucking tear, lol, FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE).
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Everyone goes to Wakanda while Tony and co. are on Titan, and the dual final battles begin.
Shuri is there (YAY!), and so is Okoye, being a badass, and M’Baku, and T’Challa!!  It’s only been a few months since we saw Black Panther, but fuck, I missed them all.
Shuri is a fucking sassmaster with Bruce (and Tony, by proxy), in Vision’s body composition (although, didn’t Ultron technically make the body, and Bruce and Tony just finished it and integrated it with JARVIS and the mind stone?).  Anyway, whyyy did this movie give me hope like that by them desperately trying to find a way to save Vision while also destroying the mind stone?  Fuck you.
Wakanda’s defenses hold up SUPER WELL, like, lol, fuck you Proxima Midnight and Cull Obsidian, if it wasn’t for T’Challa decision to open the barrier to give Shuri more time, they never would’ve gotten in to Wakanda.  And then there’s the big fight scene, which was awesome!  I loved the 3 women team-up against Proxima, with Okoye, Wanda, and Natasha.  That was, ungh, fuck, I was so aroused by that scene.  GIVE ME AN ALL-FEMALE MARVEL MOVIE, YOU COWARDS.
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Switch back to Titan, and there was a very important scene with Stephen that I forgot to mention.  He used the time stone to look into millions of possible futures, and they only win in one of those universes.  That is SO.  IMPORTANT.  because Stephen is absolutely about the greater good, we saw that on the ship when he said that he wouldn’t hesitate to sacrifice Tony and Peter for the time stone.
So the fact that Stephen then GIVES THANOS the time stone to save Tony’s life is SUPER IMPORTANT.  Because if there was only one universe, one set of events, where they won, then you better fucking believe that Stephen is going to follow that universe TO THE LETTER.  Why would he get all sentimental now to save Tony’s life?  No, there are either 2 ways to interpret Stephen’s actions: 1) In the universe where they won, it was necessary for them to “lose” first by Thanos getting all of the infinity stones.  Thus, despite what the others on Titan thought, Stephen never intended to subdue Thanos and take the gauntlet, and really only intended to eventually “give in” and give him the time stone.  Or 2) The only way to defeat Thanos is for Tony to be alive.  Tony is instrumental for Thanos’ eventual defeat, and so, Stephen thought it was a necessary sacrifice, to give Thanos the time stone in exchange for Tony’s life, and thus, the chance to defeat Thanos for good.
I’m kind of leaning towards the latter, although both are certainly possible.  The fact that Thanos KNEW Tony - specifically calling him “Stark” when they first met, and saying that “we are both cursed with knowledge?” - fuck that really points to Tony having cosmic significance here, and I am INTO it.  I’m kinda worried that they’re gonna have some sort of Harry & Voldemort link(?), where Tony has been having visions for the past 6+ years about Thanos, and Thanos has been having similar visions about Tony?  IDK, but I’m definitely gonna be reblogging a shit-ton of theories regarding this.
But fuck, when Tony was stabbed.  WHEN TONY WAS STABBED.  I literally almost threw up.  Like, I was kinda prepared for it, but fuck I really was not.  I WAS NOT PREPARED, AT ALL.  Just, his face when he was stabbed, I just wanted to cry and hold my baby and wrap him in a blanket burrito and NEVER LET THANOS TOUCH HIM EVER AGAIN.  I can’t even really talk about that scene, because it fucking destroyed me and I don’t want to think about it.
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Wow, and back in Wakanda, we have another heartbreaking scene, fuck me in my fucking asshole.  Wanda having to destroy the mind stone, and thus, Vision.  WOW.  WOWWW I was crying so fucking hard, FUCK, why do I love Scarlet Vision so much, this movie wouldn’t have been so painful, goddammit.  I also want to wrap them both in blanket burritos, because this is so unfair.
But, the good thing about Thanos using the time stone to get the mind stone back is somewhat a good thing, because Vision’s body was no longer destroyed - he just had the mind stone ripped out of his head.  He’s an android - as long as his “corpse”/body is still intact, there’s the possibility for them to retrieve the mind stone and resurrect him.  So, I kind of have tentative hope for Vision?  But I don’t know.
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And then.  We get to the very end.
Thor comes in and stabs Thanos (which, thank God) (also, i totally forgot to mention that whole subplot with Thor, Rocket, and Groot, along with surprise cameo, Peter Dinklage???  What the fuck?  I mean, I wasn’t complaining, but I was super shocked).
But Thanos is able to snap his fingers and then he disappears...and they all begin to turn to dust.
This was such a bold move by Marvel, I can’t even explain it.  Like, even if it all gets ret-conned and they’re all brought back to life in Avengers 4 or some shit, it’s still a SUPER BOLD MOVE to end one of your biggest movies with HALF OF THE PROTAGONISTS DYING INSTANTLY, and the antagonist seemingly WINNING.
But, another part that was very important - before Stephen faded away, he told Tony that “this was the only way”, which again, only supports the theory that Stephen knew exactly what he was doing and that this was the only way for them to win.
Honestly, watching all of them die was really painful.  Bucky, Sam, Wanda, T’Challa(?!?!?!?!), Stephen, Peter Quill, but...
As many people have already said, my heart broke when Peter started fading away in Tony’s arms.  Fuck that scene fucked me up.  As someone in the theater said, “HE’S JUST A KID, MARVEL.”  Like, goddammit.  And the fact that he felt it coming because of the spidey sense??  Wow, how much more painful can you get, I hate this!!!  And him falling into Tony’s arms, oh my god, just kill me already.  I don’t want to talk about it.  I can’t even think about it anymore.
Just.  Ugh.
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Alright, I’m done.  That’s my thoughts.  It ended on such a sad and hopeless note, I honestly don’t know where to go from here, other than read fluffy fanfiction for the next few months and reblog the shit out of theories and metas.
FUCK.  This movie really fucked me up.
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