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caffeinated-beverage · 8 months
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HETALIA SMELL HEADCANONS (I worked super hard on this, so pls look at it, appreciate it, and reblog? esp with comments bc i love seeing ur comments ^u^)
N. Italy: Garlic-flavored armpits
Germany: Normally, he just smells like sugar and cinnamon.
Japan: Rainwater
America: Hot dogs and bacon
England: Nosebleeds
Fr*nce: cheese
China: Braised pork belly and warmth
Russia: A mixture of booze and warmth
Canada: Poutine
Belgium: Chocolate chip waffles with a hint of strawberry
Luxembourg: Blackberrie-scented cologne
Netherlands: Money
Austria: Rose-scented perfume
Hungary: Warmth and fresh bread
Liechtenstein: https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Sanrio/Hello-Kitty-71771.html
Poland: Cream soda
Prussia: Snow cones
Slovakia: Fresh-baked cheesy bread
Switzerland: Goat milk
Estonia: TV static
Latvia: Hot cocoa & cookies
Lithuania: Lithuania.
Belarus: Mint
Bulgaria: He smeel like he boozin' & loosin'
Moldova: Halloween candies & cheese puffs
Romania: Red-flavored kool-aid
Ukraine: Fresh-baked blueberry bread and warmth
Denmark: Hairgel
Finland: Christmas!!!!!!!!!
Iceland: Hot cocoa & cookies
Norway: Fish-flavored snacks
Sweden: Coffee
Cyprus: Shark.. :/
Greece: Cats
Monaco: Money
Romano: Italian pizza
Spain: Tomatoes & olives
Portugal: Olive oil
Turkey: Roasted turkey
Egypt: Sourdough bread
Cameroon: Fresh-cut grass
Seychelles: the ocean
Hong kong: Mango pudding
Macau: Something sweet
Korea: Milk chocolates
Taiwan: Japanese Cherry Blossom™️
Thailand: Mangoes
Vietnam: Japanese cherry blossom™️
Philippines: A mixture of mangoes and Cucumber Melon™️
Indonesia: Hibiscus and rose hips
Singapore: Strawberries
India: Indian food and warmth ❤️❤️❤️
Australia: Cucumber melon™️ and sea water
New Zealand: Milk chocolates
Cuba: ICE CREAAAM!!!
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myrddin-wylt · 1 year
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i can remember NZ exists because of kiwis. The nation I wouldn’t know it existed if hadn’t been for Hetalia is Seychelles. Literally how does everyone remembers her, it’s literally a bunch of tiny islands somewhere between Africa and the Indian ocean (with no disrespect for seychellois if there’s any reading this)
Seychelles has a population of 100,447 people and it's currently 4am there so I don't think any of them are going to see my blog lol.
is Seychelles even real. do we have proof? have YOU ever met anyone from Seychelles? what about anyone you know, have THEY ever met someone from Seychelles? statistically Finland probably doesn't exist and Seychelles has half the population of Finland so clearly, by way of statistics, it is 100% certain Seychelles does not exist. I did not take statistics.
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Hetalia: World Stars Episode #1: Oddballs Part 1 Transcript
This episode has a World Meeting.
Cat: Snore! Meow…
Narrator: You are entering a world of oddballs.
(Cat: Meow…)
Narrator: Some exist for mere days, while others endure for ages, and some change beyond recognition. Some born of pure passion; others, material desires.
{Caption: ?}
Narrator: But all pacify us as their true masters dig their tendrils into our pockets.
(Cat: Meow?)
Narrator: This is the world of Youtubers. Psych, they’re governments; Hetalia’s back!
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{Caption: Pop}
Italy: Auh, good! I just barely did not make it to the meeting! Italy’s here! Mark me present!
Hungary: Did you get any sleep?
(Vietnam: Hm?)
{Caption: Stares}
Italy: Oh crap, was I the only one who hadn’t shown up yet?
Austria: Not quite.
Dream Spain: I got a late start.
Austria: Spain emailed us a little while ago and said he would be late, so someone is doing even worse than you.
Italy: Yay for me! I am not quite the worst of---auh!
Germany: You could try to be on time for just one meeting, dummkopf!
(Italy: Auha! Aah, aah! Auh, auh!)
(Dummkopf!: Idiot!/Fool! → German)
Italy: Ah!
Germany: Be more like Japan.
(Italy: Ah!)
Germany: He got here before even I did.
Italy: Aah!
(Germany: Auh!)
Japan: Euh!
Italy: Yay!
Japan: I realize it is your custom, but perhaps you could…not…bathe me in saliva?
(Italy: Ciao, ciao! Smoochie, smoochie, smoochie, smoochie! Ciao!)
(Ciao!: Hello! → Italian)
Germany: We won’t get mad if you slap him.
(Italy: Smoochie, ciao, smoochie!)
(Ciao: Hello → Italian)
Italy: Ah! It's okay, Japan; your issues with intimacy do not bother me!
Japan: Thank you very much. I am sorry to impose on you.
Seychelles: Now I’ll continue my presentation. My home is a humble place isolated in the fair waters of the Indian Ocean.
Dream Seychelles: Ahonhon!
Seychelles: The sun and stars gleam brilliantly off the sea.
(Dream Seychelles: Ahonhonhonhon!)
Germany: The important points are all summarized for you here.
(Italy: Auh?)
Italy: Ah! Thanks, Germany! I was on an errand before the meeting, but then a cute girl showed up and I forgot about it completely.
Germany: You were late because of a girl?!
Italy: And she didn’t even look at me. My horoscope was horrible today, so I blame the stars.
{Caption: Italy likes horoscopes}
Dream Italy: Ve!
Italy: But the errand was to get this photo developed and I did do that part.
Germany: Eh? A photo of what?
Italy: You and a group of random guys getting wasted, European-girl-wasted, at Oktoberfest!
{Caption: Germany is serious, but even he can get carried away during Oktoberfest}
Germany: DUAH! YOU CAN’T JUST SHOW THAT TO EVERYBODY!
France: Surely you can show it to me, non?
(Non?: No? → French)
Germany: Duah!
(Italy: Auah)
France: Ahonhonhonhon! A picture, s’il vous plaît!
(S’il vous plaît!: Please! → French)
France: I have a lovely photograph for all to see!
Germany: The cheese-eating swine! There is no choice! Special move! Wer andenes…KUGELSCHREIBER!
(Wer andenes…KUGELSCHREIBER!: Who else…PEN!)
Italy: That was such a cool word!
Japan: A special move?
Germany: KEE-YAH!
{Caption: Note: Kugelschreiber means a ballpoint pen in German}
France: Ahaua!
Austria: We have not even finished yet with the meeting, idioten!
(Italy: Germany is the coolest! Yay for me! Yay for me!)
(Idioten!: Idiots! → German)
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{Writing on whiteboard: Meeting in order for Greece to improve in the future}
Germany: Moving on, we’re still looking for ways to help Greece deal with his debt, so please speak up if you have any ideas.
France: Perhaps he could sell to Hollywood a low-budget Greek knockoff of a low-budget Hollywood film like the one named Murderous Tomatoes Attack.
Germany: You mustn’t wish this into existence.
(France: Honhon!)
Germany: And if you do, you shall watch it no fewer than 15,000 times.
(France: Whoo ooh ooh, ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh, ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh…)
Italy: Ooh, over here! They should elect hot people to run their government and charge a subscription fee!
{Caption #1: A pretty woman and a handsome man are in trouble!}
{Caption #2: Their pretty bodies will make you want to invest!!}
Italy: Hot people don’t have to be good at things!
Germany: Are you---yes, of course you’re serious; I forgot who I was talking to. Eum…but that might work.
Hungary: They should try and be more productive, perhaps working longer hours would be the best?
Germany: Greece goes to work early and stays quite late, so he actually spends more time on the clock than most anyone else here. The problem ist how little of it is spent doing actual work.
(Ist: Is → German)
Greece: I know.
Germany: What’s that, Greece? You think you have a good idea?
Greece: Hm…what if we just abolished the concept of debt?
Germany: Uh, we’ll need to have a sidebar about that.
{Caption: Hahahahahaha}
Hungary: Blah blah blah, blah blah blah!
(France: Blah blah blah blah blah!)
(Britain: Blah! Blah blah blah!)
(America: Hahahahaha!)
Germany’s thoughts: They get so unmanageable when you ask them for anything at all.
(France: Blah blah, blah blah blah!)
(Britain: Blah blah blah blah!)
(America: Hahahahaha!)
Russia: Friend Germany!
Germany: Eh?
Russia: Would you notice me why for I am being so quiet today?
Germany: I hadn’t even noticed you were being quiet.
Russia: But now I say so to you, yes?
(France: Blah blah blah blah!)
Germany: Since you insist on pointing out how quiet you are, I suppose it will not kill me to ask you why.
(France: Blah blah blah blah blah blah! Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah!)
Russia: For paying very close attention to words of America and allow me to make good reaction.
Germany: Dueh?! So you’re only talking to me to make threats against someone else?!
Russia: Ehum! No, is joke! I always am listening to everyone very well, for to me, sound of voices is precious. And in the long winters of my homeland, there are no such voices to be heard. Only the piercing howl of the wind, and the roaring of the tundra in my heart.
{Caption: Hahahahahaha}
Russia: But later, I come here and listen to voices of dear comrades, and friendship thaws the ice of loneliness.
(France: Blah blah blah blah! Blah blah blah blah! Blah blah! Blah blah blah blah blah!)
(Britain: Blah! Blah blah blah! Blah blah blah blah! Blah blah blah!)
(America: Hahahahahaha!)
Germany: Ja? I never knew it meant so much to you.
(France: Blah blah blah! Blah blah blah blah blah!)
(Britain: Blah blah blah! Blah blah blah blah blah!)
(America: Hahahahahaha!)
(Ja?: Yes? → German)
Russia: And then they start to piss me off again. What is best way of killing that has not yet been banned by convention?
(France: Blah blah! Blah blah blah blah blah! Blah blah!)
(Britain: Blah blah blah! Blah blah blah! Blah blah blah!)
(America: Hahahahahaha!)
Narrator: This is what we’re all here for, right?
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Liechtenstein: What are you burning there, Germany?
Germany: Ist my remorse.
(Ist: Is → German)
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ask-mauritius · 3 years
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[ According to the most popular (Gen 1) Pokemon per country, here’s the Indian Ocean Commission with theirs! ]  
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urmomsstuntdouble · 3 years
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also you know something i think is interesting about the nations is that they had no way of knowing it would be them who made it to the present day. of course, when you’re making a piece of historical fiction you have all the foresight in the world so you know which countries to include and how to portray them and all that, but like. take it back 500 years. think about all the nations that no longer exist. and i dont just mean the ancients, i mean shit like. holy roman empire is the best example i can think of, but you know how, like, i have this friend who would be ukrainian by today’s borders, and the kingdom their family is actually from no longer exists. i think a lot of the nations must feel a lot of survivor’s guilt because of stuff like that
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askfreedumbland · 7 years
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“I have been lucky enough to avoid his wrath today, but France... poor guy.”
@ask-indian-ocean
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immuchobligedtoyou · 2 years
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Seychelles' character page from the Hetalia☆Collezione.
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Here's an attempt at translating what it says:
Seychelles' profile:
[Pronoun] Watashi (formal "I")
[Height] 155 cm (5' 1")
[What I want now] A pokémon that isn't a water pokémon
[What I like to do] Observing giant tortoises, self-promotion (not very enthusiastic)
[What I want to try] To make a movie in Seychelles and make one think "Oh, let's go to Seychelles"
[Favorite flower] Angraecum eburneum
[Favorite sweets] Daube de Banana
"The surprisingly strong natural daughter of the Indian Ocean"
"Himaruya-sensei's World☆Tour
It seems that the women are strong by nature, and the center of the family seems to be a mother. So, she became an energetic girl who can do some things throughly."
Germany: "The cultures of different countries fused and there were many unexpected things..."
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"A business person who loves to invite customers and sells well year by year. Since she's airheaded and tolerant, she absorbs new things more and more."
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"Everything is unique, but what you should pay attention to is the food!! However, she likes salted salmon."
"Her specialty is food that is multinational and super unique"
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Hetastagram @ Seychelles
"Oh no...
#squall #baptism of the island of everlasting summer #let's go home today"
"Happy~!!
#salted salmon #imported goods"
Japan: "what a sense of affinity......"
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"A country where the women are strong
#women are hard workers #women live long #on the other hand, the average life expectancy of men is..."
"Butt!
#coco de mer #endemic species"
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*please note I mostly used an app to translate this so it's probably not 100% accurate!
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peonycats · 3 years
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If you had the opportunity to rewrite and redesigne hetalia what would it about
never create hetalia in the first place because hetalia is a constant reminder of our forefathers’ sins
okay but seriously? I do understand why hima made a lot of the decisions he did- Europe is comparatively easier to personify and even do anything with “national stereotypes” because unlike many other places, a lot of Europe didn’t get their land cut up and forced ppl of wildly differing backgrounds into the same “nation”
Europe’s centuries of petty medieval to Late Middle Ages bullshit is easy and fun to joke abt because most people aren’t really gonna get offended by you roasting the Hapsburgs or the Lancasters, as opposed to many other countries with very recent and very touchy traumas (this is also why I suspect that hima poured so much more effort and energy into western Europe as opposed to the east)
With all of that said, if I were to rewrite and redesign hetalia.....
Explore more ancient history and the civilizations frm way back when, as well as just lesser known fields of history!!
MORE GIRLS (I personally would personify France and Russia as women, and maybe even America)
stop microscopically focusing on western europe, and get some Africa, Polynesia, SEAsia, Middle East, indigenous peoples groups, Latin America in here bro
Put more of an individual spotlight on Seychelles and not just her relationships with Western Europe or random countries she interacts with despite having many deep and complex relationships within Africa and the Indian Ocean
Switch Finland and Norway’s personalities
Give Turkey a full beard
Persia = Iran
Overhaul Italy’s personality (I hate the very simplistic ditzy pasta loving persona with a fiery passion lmao)
Overhaul Prussia’s personality at that too
Stop defining Cuba solely by his relationship to western nations and explore him as a characters and his other relationships (this is a bit of a pattern you see)
Completely overhaul Asia and how their relationships with each other
The first few seasons of the Axis powers slice of life bullshit??? gone
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ello, do you kill for how much money? not that I'm asking for someone to be killed... just wondering, lovie.
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“Wanna talk prices later?”
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“Sometimes water is alive, and when it is, it asks for a dead man’s head.”
This is what I - as well as Romania and the elders of the Maramures region - believe. There is one legend of a church and a few houses that got covered during a flood. I’ve heard a distant church bell one Easter night while in the village of Tisa. which is near the lake.
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Another, much darker (and much more favorable on my part) tale are of the Bottomless Lakes. It once swallowed the guests to a wedding after they tried to cross it during the winter. Another lake, Vinderel, has a vortex somewhere within its waters that can swallow even the strongest of swimmers. Young girls used to bathe in the lake - a ritual which would promise they would get married within a year - and one girl was yanked into the depths... even though she was tied to shore.
And finally, my favorite of them all. The legend that speaks of bloody pieces of flesh floating upon the water’s surfaces.
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@ask-indian-ocean
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hetamavi · 5 years
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Seychelles Deserves Better
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Seychelles has an interesting history with the Hetalia fandom. And by “interesting”, I mean a not good history. For a long time, she was the biggest victim of character bashing because of being seen as a threat to fan favorite ships.Things have overall gotten better for her these days, but it’s rare to see her getting love independently of things like shipping. She doesn’t have a big following that loves her for her. She’s just largely recognized as the character a lot of people hated at one point.
This bothers me. It bothers me a lot, because Seychelles is easily one of my favorite characters. I adore this character. So for this post, I’ll go into various areas of who she is as a character and at the end, I’ll add in some bonus bits of information about her that I didn’t fit into the other sections. Credit towards Hetarchive for most of the translations used here (there’s also an excerpt from volume 6).
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Seychelles
A beautiful archipelago in the Indian Ocean, Seychelles radiates happiness and a love of her home. Some of her hobbies include music, frolicking on the beaches of her islands, prank calling England, napping, being a tour guide, and showing off her butt shaped coconuts.  
The people of Seychelles are described by Himaruya as being adaptable to an unusual degree (this is also the explanation he’s given to explain her mellowed out attitude around England compared to how she acted around him in Gakuen Hetalia). Aside from being cheerful and adaptable, she’s excitable to a fault and this leads to her not being capable of keeping exciting secrets.
It’s rumored that she stays at home because she can’t get the kind of fish she likes elsewhere. Fish aside, she seems overall happy to stay on her islands and help with the tourists there instead of going somewhere as a tourist herself. However, she’s not reclusive and likes showing up to parties thrown by the other nations and getting involved in things such as group costume contests. She’s overall a very sociable person.
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A lot of Seychelles’ character is shown through various strips of her hanging around tourists nations (Germany, France, her unnamed African friend). These strips mainly focus on educating readers about the Seychelles archipelago, with Himaruya even including details in one instance for how Japanese readers have to go about flying there. But these strips do also give a good feel for how good she is at showing others all the great qualities of her home in a way that it doesn’t even look like she’s working as much as she’s joined in on their experience to have fun herself. Seychelles has fun interacting with others and bringing them along in how her daily life goes.
One more important detail to finish up the basics of her character. She LOVES her beloved Mr. France. In contrast to their more rocky relationship (thanks to France’s perverted behavior) in the unfinished Gakuen Hetalia game, Seychelles’ behavior from more recent material shows unwavering admiration towards him and a desire for his approval. Himaruya puts it best here:
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The Student
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Fitting of a character that was introduced in a school setting, Seychelles is shown maintaining her studies concerning the rest of the world. One strip features her naming off the G8 members for a pop quiz.
She also seemed to have studied the individual countries named in the quiz. Despite her struggling to remember his name and the two overall seeming unfamiliar with each other judging by the dialogue, Seychelles had a sense of what kind of personality Canada would have. She at least knew enough to know that him being a show off is very out of character.
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However, she’s still a bit lacking in terms of worldly knowledge. She made the mistake of acting as if she could frolic around in snow as if she were at the beach. And while the image of Seychelles playing in snow is admittedly adorable, it’s also a horrible idea. Because of her high average temperature, cold weather takes a toll on her, even being capable of causing her to pass out if she’s exposed to it too long. Cuba ended up having to carry her to warmth. Speaking of Cuba, almost immediately after this incident, she mistook him for an Asian nation.
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Worldly knowledge aside, Seychelles is also increasingly becoming better at pulling in tourists, a business she’s been relying on more and more. She’s been described as an airhead in canon, but her marketing talents show a charismatic side of her that’s skilled in persuasion. It’s said she relies a lot on her looks, but she also knows how to sell the idea that her islands are an ideal vacation spot in a way that’s so natural, the promotion fits well into casual conversations. 
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Such strips give the impression that we’re watching this character grow up in order to keep up with the rest of the world. France even comments on this, telling Seychelles how much she’s grown.
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Insecurities
Seychelles is a character that is almost always shown as having a smile on her face. She’s one of the most consistently happy characters in the series. However, she does have her own share of insecurities.
For one, when described as “quirky” by her friend, she seems a bit hurt over it.
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She’s an isolated archipelago hundreds of miles away from the rest of Africa that describes herself as not being able to relate to continental African nations. It leaves her feeling like the odd one out. And being left off the map doesn’t really help in making her feel better.
None of this makes Seychelles unhappy, she’s quite resilient when it comes to facing hardships, whether it be feeling left out or having to put up with England. But this does show Seychelles is a rounded character who has more going for her than just being the happy-go-lucky island girl. She has grievances, yet remains very satisfied with her life at the end of the day.
Conclusion
Seychelles is one of the happiest characters in the series. Her presence makes for some especially feel-good strips in an already usually very feel-good series. However, she’s not one dimensional in her happiness and has insecurities which makes for a more well developed character. She also as a pretty firm place in the series. She’s a go-getter star student that offers the perspective of someone working hard on becoming more and more developed. And that hard work has come with success with Seychelles being classified as high income.
Seychelles deserves so much more than the stigma of once being the most hated character in the series. She also doesn’t deserve to be dismissed as shallow and one dimensional when she’s someone with clear insecurities and goals that she’s working towards. She’s an overall great character.  
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-She likes to prank call England. She’ll even attempt to pass that task on to someone else if, whatever reason, she herself can’t do it. England goes along with these prank calls.
-She has conversations with Madagascar about animals.
-France says she’s a good cook and Germany described one of her dishes as “deep”. -She’s extremely protective when it comes to her country’s nature and is very strict about littering.
-The women in Seychellois society are super tough.
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Welcome!
This is the main hub for two group blogs, this is a hetalia oc blog for the 7 continents and the 6 oceans. You can be like an entire Hetalian like form of like Europe, Indian Ocean ect. This is mostly a collab group blog so once you join we will email you the blog. We will do collab drawings together and have fun in general. So come on down and join our little au!
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hetamavi · 6 years
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Did England Raise America?
It’s widely accepted in this fandom that England raised America. If you’ve ever seen or, unfortunately, got caught up in a shipping war concerning UsUk, it’s an argument I can guarantee you’ve seen be thrown around.  
However, that argument is one I want to call into question. Because, the thing is...England DIDN’T raise America.
Throughout this analysis, I will cover why the two don’t qualify as an adopted family relationship. Both Hetalia canon and historical information will be used. I will also use this perspective to analyze the two as separate characters. All translated images used here are from hetarchive and hetascanlations.
One more thing! This analysis is not intended to convince you of anything as far as shipping is concerned. Whether England raised America and whether the UsUk relationship is romantic are two distinct topics. I have many motivations for writing this analysis. Trying to tell you what to ship is not one of them.
LOOKING AT IT HISTORICALLY
The first American colony was established in Jamestown, Virginia in 1607. The American Revolution started in 1775 and ended in 1783. If we were to say the American colonies were still considered colonies until the very end of the war, this would mean that Great Britain and the United States had a colony-colonizer relationship for 176 years. A relatively very short time period for a society to be established and then grow until finally declaring and winning Independence. So.  
How did this happen so quickly?
The answer lies in the fact that, from nearly beginning to end, the British left the colonies to take care of themselves. Which makes sense logically when you think about it. Britain had its own regional issues and the distance provided by the Atlantic Ocean wasn’t making governing the American colonies any easier. So, Britain neglected to do so. The biggest British presence in the colonies came in the form of Royal Governors, but even their power was more theoretical than actual thanks to the power over the purse assemblies (which consisted of colonial elected officials rather than anyone appointed by the King) wielded over these governors. If a Royal Governor didn’t comply with the needs and wants of the those in the colonies, their paychecks were cut short. In they were compliant, they would get bonuses. This power over the Royal Governors only increased as time went on until the Assemblies were the main governing power in the colonies. (Source) (Source)
The most significant attempt at having any form of British policy came in the form of the Navigation Acts which were passed in the later part of the 17th century. The Navigation Acts were an attempt to regulate colonial trade, but what can I say other than they were very poorly enforced policies that failed on every level? Again, due to issues such as distance, it would have been more trouble than what it was worth to actually enforce the Navigation Acts so smuggling became a pretty common thing in the American colonies. (Source) (Source)
Unintentional neglect evolved into a degree of intentional neglect starting in the 1720s with the appropriately termed period of “Salutary Neglect” (though Great Britain started to loosen up its control even more than it already had starting back in the 1690s). Edmund Burke, who served as a member of British parliament, can be credited with naming this unofficial policy:
“That I know that the colonies in general owe little or nothing to any care of ours, and that they are not squeezed into this happy form by the constraints of watchful and suspicious government, but that, through a wise and salutary neglect, a generous nature has been suffered to take her own way to perfection; when I reflect upon these effects, when I see how profitable they have been to us, I feel all the pride of power sink, and all presumption in the wisdom of human contrivances melt, and die away within me.”
Starting in the 1720s with Robert Walpole’s (Great Britain’s unofficial first Prime Minister) rise to power, Great Britain intentionally started to turn a blind eye to colonial activity, particularly the already mentioned smuggling. The idea was that if the colonies were left alone to flourish, Great Britain would profit. This “let them do whatever” mentality lasted until the end of the French and Indian/Seven Years’ War, when heavy taxation started to take place in the colonies to pay for the war. And, thanks to the poor reception (to say the least) of the heavier taxes, Great Britain, for the first time since the colonies were first established, made more serious attempts to have a prominent presence in Colonial America (with things such as the “Intolerable Acts” and more taxation). This heavier presence combined with the previous long-time neglect is what led to the American Revolution that kicked off only 168 years after the first colony was established. (Source) (Source) (Source)
To sum this all up, Great Britain had a glaring lack of presence in its American colonies that led to a strong sense of autonomy. This sense of autonomy led to the American Revolution.
SO WHAT ABOUT HETALIA?
Now that it’s been established the notion of England raising America doesn’t make much sense from a historical perspective, it’s time to move on to Hetalia itself. After all, Hetalia doesn’t always perfectly match up with history so I can’t just end this on nothing but historical facts.
So, what about Hetalia then? What is the pre-Revolution relationship shared between America and England?
It’s one of absence and rapid growth. Let’s start from the beginning.
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Here’s something from one of the earliest canon portrayals of colonial America. The strip starts out with England thinking of all the responsibilities he’d have to take on as America’s guardian. But the strip ends with England coming to the realization America is perfectly fine by himself, alluding to how the real-life colonies were self-sufficient without any British supervision. It’s a quick reference to colonial history, but one telling of what’s to come.
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Here’s something a bit more telling. England leaves America and returns to find he’s developed into an adult or almost adult physical appearance. The first thing I want to talk about is young America’s reaction to England leaving him. While it’s not abnormal for a child to be upset when left alone, America is upset to the point of sobbing and begging England not to leave. Is that the type of reaction a child would normally have to being left by someone who was constantly around? No. Because normally the adult figure would return very shortly. But that’s not the case here. America is upset because he knows that once England is gone, he’s not going to stop by again any time soon.
Moving on to the second part of the strip, my first point seems to be proven right. Even with America’s quick physical growth, England must have been gone at least for a few years for such a dramatic physical change to have taken place. Speaking of, there’s that rapid colonial growth I was talking about earlier! We’ll get to see more of that later.
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Now we move on to the Davie strip. The comic starts in Davie’s childhood and ends after his death. While I can’t say for sure, I’d guess this was a time span of 60-70 years and, judging by America’s appearance, took place during the earlier colonial years. Which leads me to suspect America’s growth started to REALLY speed up starting in the late 17th century, early 18th- around the time when Salutary Neglect was most prominent. Not long after the likely time Davie passed away.
So, 60-70 years. And America was a colony for only 176 years (less if you want to end at the beginning of the Revolution). And England has only two brief appearances, with each being many years apart going by Davie’s changing physical appearance. I think that information makes this comic the most telling in how often England was around colonial America.
It also makes thing a bit more tragic doesn’t it? The America I see here is that of a very lonely child who craves attention and company. So, he latches onto Davie, who is unfortunately a human that quickly passes away.
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Moving on, we get a strip that shows America’s unusually fast growth. By the time he has a teenage body, Canada is still around toddler age. Also, worth mentioning is that America is seen with a book in both latter two panels and Canada’s way of approaching America and his wording in the very last one implies America is constantly busy. This is the diligent America I needed to see to completely match him up with colonial America in reality.
Here we do NOT see England holding his hand throughout this learning process. America is shown taking on the task of learning politics on his own and of his own free will. This is where the “England raised him” argument becomes extremely frustrating to me. Combine this strip with the one with the buffalo from earlier, and we get to see a hard-working, self-sufficient America that brought upon his own quick growth in the absence of his colonizer. A reminder not to take his modern obnoxious personality at face value. He is, in fact, VERY competent.
THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
And with that, it’s time to talk about the American Revolution. I want to bring attention to the “I’m no longer your brother” line. This dialogue if often disregarded, since you can’t actually cut off familial relationships with words. However, I don’t that gives the full picture of what he means here. This is NOT a declaration of a sudden, immediate change.  
Think back to everything I’ve talked about up to this point. America showing a capability of handling himself at a young age, England’s absence throughout his growth, America growing up extremely quickly, the diligence and dedication he showed in teaching himself throughout that speedy growth…
Again, he is not making any sudden declaration of cutting familiar ties. He’s acknowledging something that has already happened. America has proven he’s more than capable of being fully independent by raising himself up into someone capable of taking a stand against England in under the time span of 200 years. The child England found is gone and England needs to acknowledge that.
With that said, let’s talk about England for a moment. Particularly his state of mind throughout all of this.
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In Europe, England had NOBODY. He was the black sheep, the guy with no friends. So, he turned to America, or rather the idea of America, as a source of comfort.
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America became his emotional crutch. But, besides such a thing being unhealthy, his relationship with America was, for the most part, not something represented in reality. He liked the IDEA of there being someone there for him. Once you get attached to at least the idea of a person always being there for you, you don’t NEED to constantly be there with them. As long as America is there waiting for him when he does have the time to stop by, his imagination can do the rest with sugarcoating reality. This is an accurate take on the different perspectives of the British and the colonies, with more emotional investment thrown in to make England seem more sympathetic and human. The British thought of the colonies as an entity completely subordinate and loyal to Great Britain. But the colonists didn’t really see things in that way. All the time they had spent left to their own devices had built up a spirit of autonomy.
When the Revolution breaks out, he reacts to the possibility of abandonment violently. Of course, there’s practical reasons to not want to lose the American colonies. But in England’s case, he seems to be driven by his emotional investment and reliance on America. Everything builds up until England finally breaks down in the end.
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It’s not the cutting of familial ties that makes this scene so tragic. It’s seeing reality catch up to England. It’s seeing his loneliness and fear of abandonment completely exposed. It’s seeing that he kept fighting even when he had no Army behind him (possibly because everyone else had already given up). It’s seeing even some of America’s soldiers giving England looks of pity. It’s seeing America looking down on him and commenting on his fallen image.
As sad as this is, it needed to happen. Being under another nation’s rule was becoming a hinderance to America’s further growth, and England had become unhealthily attacked to something that amounts only to a fantasy. The bond was a toxic one.
MODERN TIMES AND CONCLUSION
Keeping this section brief, I’ll end this analysis on this scene.
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America says he’s jealous of the kids specifically. Because, these kids have something America himself didn’t get the chance to have: a fulfilling childhood loaded with consistent affection.
America didn’t have an affectionate childhood, he was mostly alone. Or put more accurately, he didn’t have much of a childhood AT ALL. His early days weren’t anything you can attach much familial love to. He was more like an orphan than someone under the loving care of a father/brother figure. He was alone, so he had to grow up and raise himself (in this case, that happened on a more literal and physical level).
Saying England “raised him” is a dramatic misrepresentation of what happened and it’s a dramatic misrepresentation of the depth both characters have.
England wasn’t upset over losing a son. He was upset over losing an emotional crutch that he rarely even got to see. He broke down, because of insecurities that were an issue far before the Revolution happened. His miserable appearance during the Revolution wasn’t just apart of some isolated event. It was a look into England’s very troubled and lonely mind.
America wasn’t just some kid who decided to rebel against daddy. He was someone who had thrown away his own childhood, so he could raise himself. Nobody was there to help him. What he accomplished was through his own hard work and he, understandably, wanted that to be recognized.
And to those of you who are still put off by the title “brother” being used in America’s colonial days, remember that it’s a title that’s used very loosely in the series with the biggest perpetrator being “big brother France”. In this way, having a “big brother” indicates having a friendly relationship with an older male, especially one in a higher position of power. Another example of non-related characters using “brother” to describe each other are Norway and Denmark (with Denmark also addressing Iceland as such and overall thinking of himself as a “big bro”).
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Did England Raise America?
(NOTE: I have spent so much time reuploading this only to find apparently linking sources is a no-no. If you want to know where I got the historical information from, do not hesitate to ask!)
It’s widely accepted in this fandom that England raised America. If you’ve ever seen or, unfortunately, got caught up in a shipping war concerning UsUk, it’s an argument I can guarantee you’ve seen be thrown around.  
However, that argument is one I want to call into question. Because, the thing is...England DIDN’T raise America.
Throughout this analysis, I will cover why the two don’t qualify as an adopted family relationship. Both Hetalia canon and historical information will be used. I will also use this perspective to analyze the two as separate characters. All translated images used here are from hetarchive and hetascanlations.
One more thing! This analysis is not intended to convince you of anything as far as shipping is concerned. Whether England raised America and whether the UsUk relationship is romantic are two distinct topics. I have many motivations for writing this analysis. Trying to tell you what to ship is not one of them.
LOOKING AT IT HISTORICALLY
The first American colony was established in Jamestown, Virginia in 1607. The American Revolution started in 1775 and ended in 1783. If we were to say the American colonies were still considered colonies until the very end of the war, this would mean that Great Britain and the United States had a colony-colonizer relationship for 176 years. A relatively very short time period for a society to be established and then grow until finally declaring and winning Independence. So.  
How did this happen so quickly?
The answer lies in the fact that, from nearly beginning to end, the British left the colonies to take care of themselves. Which makes sense logically when you think about it. Britain had its own regional issues and the distance provided by the Atlantic Ocean wasn’t making governing the American colonies any easier. So, Britain neglected to do so. The biggest British presence in the colonies came in the form of Royal Governors, but even their power was more theoretical than actual thanks to the power over the purse assemblies (which consisted of colonial elected officials rather than anyone appointed by the King) wielded over these governors. If a Royal Governor didn’t comply with the needs and wants of the those in the colonies, their paychecks were cut short. In they were compliant, they would get bonuses. This power over the Royal Governors only increased as time went on until the Assemblies were the main governing power in the colonies. 
The most significant attempt at having any form of British policy came in the form of the Navigation Acts which were passed in the later part of the 17th century. The Navigation Acts were an attempt to regulate colonial trade, but what can I say other than they were very poorly enforced policies that failed on every level? Again, due to issues such as distance, it would have been more trouble than what it was worth to actually enforce the Navigation Acts so smuggling became a pretty common thing in the American colonies.
Unintentional neglect evolved into a degree of intentional neglect starting in the 1720s with the appropriately termed period of “Salutary Neglect” (though Great Britain started to loosen up its control even more than it already had starting back in the 1690s). Edmund Burke, who served as a member of British parliament, can be credited with naming this unofficial policy:
“That I know that the colonies in general owe little or nothing to any care of ours, and that they are not squeezed into this happy form by the constraints of watchful and suspicious government, but that, through a wise and salutary neglect, a generous nature has been suffered to take her own way to perfection; when I reflect upon these effects, when I see how profitable they have been to us, I feel all the pride of power sink, and all presumption in the wisdom of human contrivances melt, and die away within me.”
Starting in the 1720s with Robert Walpole’s (Great Britain’s unofficial first Prime Minister) rise to power, Great Britain intentionally started to turn a blind eye to colonial activity, particularly the already mentioned smuggling. The idea was that if the colonies were left alone to flourish, Great Britain would profit. This “let them do whatever” mentality lasted until the end of the French and Indian/Seven Years’ War, when heavy taxation started to take place in the colonies to pay for the war. And, thanks to the poor reception (to say the least) of the heavier taxes, Great Britain, for the first time since the colonies were first established, made more serious attempts to have a prominent presence in Colonial America (with things such as the “Intolerable Acts” and more taxation). This heavier presence combined with the previous long-time neglect is what led to the American Revolution that kicked off only 168 years after the first colony was established. 
To sum this all up, Great Britain had a glaring lack of presence in its American colonies that led to a strong sense of autonomy. This sense of autonomy led to the American Revolution.
SO WHAT ABOUT HETALIA?
Now that it’s been established the notion of England raising America doesn’t make much sense from a historical perspective, it’s time to move on to Hetalia itself. After all, Hetalia doesn’t always perfectly match up with history so I can’t just end this on nothing but historical facts.
So, what about Hetalia then? What is the pre-Revolution relationship shared between America and England?
It’s one of absence and rapid growth. Let’s start from the beginning.
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Here’s something from one of the earliest canon portrayals of colonial America. The strip starts out with England thinking of all the responsibilities he’d have to take on as America’s guardian. But the strip ends with England coming to the realization America is perfectly fine by himself, alluding to how the real-life colonies were self-sufficient without any British supervision. It’s a quick reference to colonial history, but one telling of what’s to come.
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Here’s something a bit more telling. England leaves America and returns to find he’s developed into an adult or almost adult physical appearance. The first thing I want to talk about is young America’s reaction to England leaving him. While it’s not abnormal for a child to be upset when left alone, America is upset to the point of sobbing and begging England not to leave. Is that the type of reaction a child would normally have to being left by someone who was constantly around? No. Because normally the adult figure would return very shortly. But that’s not the case here. America is upset because he knows that once England is gone, he’s not going to stop by again any time soon.
Moving on to the second part of the strip, my first point seems to be proven right. Even with America’s quick physical growth, England must have been gone at least for a few years for such a dramatic physical change to have taken place. Speaking of, there’s that rapid colonial growth I was talking about earlier! We’ll get to see more of that later.
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Now we move on to the Davie strip. The comic starts in Davie’s childhood and ends after his death. While I can’t say for sure, I’d guess this was a time span of 60-70 years and, judging by America’s appearance, took place during the earlier colonial years. Which leads me to suspect America’s growth started to REALLY speed up starting in the late 17th century, early 18th- around the time when Salutary Neglect was most prominent. Not long after the likely time Davie passed away.
So, 60-70 years. And America was a colony for only 176 years (less if you want to end at the beginning of the Revolution). And England has only two brief appearances, with each being many years apart going by Davie’s changing physical appearance. I think that information makes this comic the most telling in how often England was around colonial America.
It also makes thing a bit more tragic doesn’t it? The America I see here is that of a very lonely child who craves attention and company. So, he latches onto Davie, who is unfortunately a human that quickly passes away.
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Moving on, we get a strip that shows America’s unusually fast growth. By the time he has a teenage body, Canada is still around toddler age. Also, worth mentioning is that America is seen with a book in both latter two panels and Canada’s way of approaching America and his wording in the very last one implies America is constantly busy. This is the diligent America I needed to see to completely match him up with colonial America in reality.
Here we do NOT see England holding his hand throughout this learning process. America is shown taking on the task of learning politics on his own and of his own free will. This is where the “England raised him” argument becomes extremely frustrating to me. Combine this strip with the one with the buffalo from earlier, and we get to see a hard-working, self-sufficient America that brought upon his own quick growth in the absence of his colonizer. A reminder not to take his modern obnoxious personality at face value. He is, in fact, VERY competent.
THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
And with that, it’s time to talk about the American Revolution. I want to bring attention to the “I’m no longer your brother” line. This dialogue if often disregarded, since you can’t actually cut off familial relationships with words. However, I don’t that gives the full picture of what he means here. This is NOT a declaration of a sudden, immediate change.  
Think back to everything I’ve talked about up to this point. America showing a capability of handling himself at a young age, England’s absence throughout his growth, America growing up extremely quickly, the diligence and dedication he showed in teaching himself throughout that speedy growth…
Again, he is not making any sudden declaration of cutting familiar ties. He’s acknowledging something that has already happened. America has proven he’s more than capable of being fully independent by raising himself up into someone capable of taking a stand against England in under the time span of 200 years. The child England found is gone and England needs to acknowledge that.
With that said, let’s talk about England for a moment. Particularly his state of mind throughout all of this.
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In Europe, England had NOBODY. He was the black sheep, the guy with no friends. So, he turned to America, or rather the idea of America, as a source of comfort.
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America became his emotional crutch. But, besides such a thing being unhealthy, his relationship with America was, for the most part, not something represented in reality. He liked the IDEA of there being someone there for him. Once you get attached to at least the idea of a person always being there for you, you don’t NEED to constantly be there with them. As long as America is there waiting for him when he does have the time to stop by, his imagination can do the rest with sugarcoating reality. This is an accurate take on the different perspectives of the British and the colonies, with more emotional investment thrown in to make England seem more sympathetic and human. The British thought of the colonies as an entity completely subordinate and loyal to Great Britain. But the colonists didn’t really see things in that way. All the time they had spent left to their own devices had built up a spirit of autonomy.
When the Revolution breaks out, he reacts to the possibility of abandonment violently. Of course, there’s practical reasons to not want to lose the American colonies. But in England’s case, he seems to be driven by his emotional investment and reliance on America. Everything builds up until England finally breaks down in the end.
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It’s not the cutting of familial ties that makes this scene so tragic. It’s seeing reality catch up to England. It’s seeing his loneliness and fear of abandonment completely exposed. It’s seeing that he kept fighting even when he had no Army behind him (possibly because everyone else had already given up). It’s seeing even some of America’s soldiers giving England looks of pity. It’s seeing America looking down on him and commenting on his fallen image.
As sad as this is, it needed to happen. Being under another nation’s rule was becoming a hinderance to America’s further growth, and England had become unhealthily attacked to something that amounts only to a fantasy. The bond was a toxic one.
MODERN TIMES AND CONCLUSION
Keeping this section brief, I’ll end this analysis on this scene.
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America says he’s jealous of the kids specifically. Because, these kids have something America himself didn’t get the chance to have: a fulfilling childhood loaded with consistent affection.
America didn’t have an affectionate childhood, he was mostly alone. Or put more accurately, he didn’t have much of a childhood AT ALL. His early days weren’t anything you can attach much familial love to. He was more like an orphan than someone under the loving care of a father/brother figure. He was alone, so he had to grow up and raise himself (in this case, that happened on a more literal and physical level).
Saying England “raised him” is a dramatic misrepresentation of what happened and it’s a dramatic misrepresentation of the depth both characters have.
England wasn’t upset over losing a son. He was upset over losing an emotional crutch that he rarely even got to see. He broke down, because of insecurities that were an issue far before the Revolution happened. His miserable appearance during the Revolution wasn’t just apart of some isolated event. It was a look into England’s very troubled and lonely mind.
America wasn’t just some kid who decided to rebel against daddy. He was someone who had thrown away his own childhood, so he could raise himself. Nobody was there to help him. What he accomplished was through his own hard work and he, understandably, wanted that to be recognized.
And to those of you who are still put off by the title “brother” being used in America’s colonial days, remember that it’s a title that’s used very loosely in the series with the biggest perpetrator being “big brother France”. In this way, having a “big brother” indicates having a friendly relationship with an older male, especially one in a higher position of power. Another example of non-related characters using “brother” to describe each other are Norway and Denmark (with Denmark also addressing Iceland as such and overall thinking of himself as a “big bro”).
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