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tuff-ponyboy · 1 month
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this might make some people Mad, but i don't think anything said in the book makes se hinton racist 😵‍💫 in fact (IMO) she clearly made a conscious choice to avoid discussing racism in the book bc she was an ignorant high schooler who didn't know any better and probs knew she would fuck it up even if she tried. i know many people say she is racist for certain comments two-bit and pony made, which yes! two-bit did use a slur! and pony did stereotype native americans! but like..i'm pretty sure that's just how people talked back then 😭 which doesn't excuse it, but if you think about it, people have only RECENTLY become mindful about that stuff!! like in 2020!! and you guys were all alive for that (if you are 3 years old dni). plus western films were basically Everything during the 60s too so...yeah just Please. this is why it's important to keep in mind that this book is almost 60 years old. things have changed. se hinton isn't racist for writing about a character who casually drops slurs bc that's literally how it Was
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g-xix · 3 months
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Hi love your content your an amazing writer!
I have my own slight opinion on the Danny Tennessee situation. I really like Danny he’s really funny but like many people I have lost respect for hon recently. I think that they make a cute couple but idk whilst Ten may be gorgeous she does obviously need male validation a large amount of the time.
For me personally if a girl actively pursues a guy who she knows is in a relationship then they loose all respect from me. I also think and this is gonna sound harsh so i’m sorry if anyone disagrees with me but this whole situation has probably made female creators reputation even worse. As lets be honest if Ten was not a stunning as she is Danny’s fanbase would probably not be as behind and supporting the relationship as she is.
As someone who always tries to support female creators, Ten has kinda just really disappointed me. Bot that she needs to be like a feminist creator obvs not she can create whatever content she wants but the way she acts is and especially during locked in was extremely disrespectful. Like imagine if that had happened to her I fully imagine her making a tik tok about it calling out the girl or maybe not Idk i try to avoid her content now as it just annoy’s me. I may give her a third chance one day but for now I just can’t especially after all this had recently happened.
Also this is coming from a girl who is around the same age as you I think possibly a year old idk but just from what i’ve seen you talk about on here. Anyways I wish you the best day ♥️
Heya lovely, tysm for the love and hope you're having a wonderful day also
And you're genuinely so right. It's such a basic matter of loyalty in a relationship to not cheat, for one, but then also just... not pursue other girlies? So Danny's a dick for that undeniably, and then Tenessee on top of that, encouraging Danny's behaviour isntead of also acknowledging that he has a gf... Horrid work from the two of them. But as you've said, Danny's male audience are sooo blind to Danny's disloyalty, and literally the only reason that they're so supportive of the relationship is because Tennessee is so gorgeous. And I wonder how long the support for Ten will last because I think that the male consumer of online content will recognise a woman's aesthetic value for only a short period of time before becoming "accustomed" to it, or just overlooking it and critiquing them more harshly for their other assets...
I feel like Ten will somehow also be criticised for going out with a guy that's uglier than her? Like respectfully, whilst they're both good-looking, Danny is definitely the one punching within this relationship. And idk why but post breakup (assuming they would break up at some pt...), ofc the fanboys will stick loyal to Danny... But I wonder what they'll say to Ten?
Sorry it's taken me so long to respond, im not even gna try respond to the rest bc i'll take another day or so j writing and im super tired atm... all in all you've done really in depth thought as is and it's pretty much everythign i've thought about the situation before too. Ten really isn't a girls girl and idk why more girlies dont point it out. I think it's a pretty privelege thing though (eugh)
And that's acc quite cute that we're similar ages n that, slide into dms if u wanna chat more ab general stuffs, im always down for a convo, and i hope YOU have the best day when u next read this broski
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strawberryamanita · 1 year
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Alright, it was a bad idea to go into the neurosparkly tag. People are chill in the neurospicy tag, but it's just hatepost after hatepost after hatepost in the neurosparkly tag.
I was gonna keep my mouth shut, but now I'm pissed. Y'all really know how to make a person's skin crawl.
Rant below.
Listen, this reeks of one person pulling "neurosparkly" and "neurospicy" out of a very obscure conversation and going "hmm, this gives me the willies, so it looks like an acceptable target to me!", and I'm already sick of it. This gives me the exact same vibes as that one famous post about transmeds vs transtrenders -- this idea of pinning one form of self-expression against another, in the name of dunking on fellow marginalized people that are giving your demographic "a bad name". To that end, I'd like to remind y'all that the original artist of that post admitted they weren't acting right about trans people that aren't like them, and so I'm hoping we get over this and get over it soon.
Because we cannot keep doing this.
Every. Summer. Every fucking Summer, this website has to put a spotlight on a new group to punch down on. First it was just about every LGBTQIA+ group outside of cis gay men you could imagine -- lesbians, bis/pans, trans people, ace people, non-binary people, people who identify as queer (we're literally all queer, but that's another convo all together), you name it. It literally never stops, you people have to be taught over and over again that, no, this one group isn't okay to target either, that's your family too, you're not better than them for being a different flavor of weird.
Now we're doing this to neurodivergent people? Neurodivergent people. The overwhelming majority of this website. You're gonna try and clown on other neurodivergent people for, what is it, being cringe? After we just agreed that embracing cringe is a huge step towards self-acceptance and self-love? tumblr is THE cringe website. We don't do optics here, we don't clean our metaphorical rooms when guests are over.
Like what, we have to take every moment of our neurodivergent lives seriously? It's ridiculous enough that we have a "normal" model for how a brain should be, compared to all the different ways a person can develop. Are we such tragic figures that we can't take the smallest delight in calling ourself a fun little nickname? It's not self-censoring, it's not like "handicapable vs disabled", let's not treat this thing like a gust of wind on the house of cards that is our (quite necessary) camaraderie.
Are we gonna start zeroing in on specific neurodivergent conditions next? How long are we gonna play this stupid game of Who Is It Okay To Bully on this website? If you wanna look like a mature and poised and respectable lot, you can't be doing something so petty, whether it's for fun or "for the cause".
Y'know what? I support neurosparkly. I support neurospicy. My neurotype is glow-in-the-dark. It's glittery, it's color-changing, it's metallic and covered in rhinestones and smells like artificial fruits. My neurotype is crayon drawings and old kids' meal toys and bubble machines and getting bleary-eyed over Muppet songs. My brain is covered in holographic stickers and playing 8bit videogame music on loop. I am Cringemeister General. You could only wish to be as cringe as me.
Now cringe. Cringe and cope and seethe and mald. Dig up everything you can about me to attempt to punish me for disagreeing with you, and let your confirmation bias run wild. Post me on r/cringe, make a YouTube or TikTok video about me, pick me apart on a livestream, make me the poster-boy of your disgust, print out a screenshot of my blog and throw darts at it. Dance the dance of self-hatred, and then wait in the wings until you get to dance it again.
Eugh.
I'm gonna close this rant using every argument that I've seen effectively shut down these yearly attempts at putting eachother in the pillories, because I don't know if I can take another Summer of this:
If you start picking on people for using "neurosparkly" or "neurospicy", I'm assuming you're a fed. Infighting only helps the oppressors, and if we spend our energy trying to police eachother we're not going to get anything done. Kill the cringe cop in your head. There's as many ways for a person to live as are, have been, and will be people on this planet; there's a good chance you're gonna hear about some people who give you the ick, but you're gonna have to swallow that ick and respect them anyhow.
Every ounce of energy you spend rolling your eyes at people you consider beneath you can be spent chipping away at a person in power. Every minute you choose to spend tsking or turning up your nose at "weird" kids can be spent advocating for that weirdness and normalizing being fucking nice to people. You punch down or punch across because it gives you quicker, more visible results; if we're all punching up, they'll have no other option than to listen to us.
There is enough room for everybody. Even the neurospicies, even the neurosparklies.
PS: Any attempts to make fun of me or the people I talked about in this post are just straight-up gonna be ignored. I don't see why you'd want to convince me to think less of others, so trying to sway me is gonna be difficult on your part. I'm not debating anyone's rights, and I'm not gonna conserve spoons to argue with a stranger. I have Anons turned off already, so if you wanna get up in my virtual face you won't have a disguise to protect you.
Thank you for your time.
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alrightsnaps · 10 months
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The beef you have with Anthony on twitter is very pathetic and also the fact that you PRETEND Violet has haters when all that happened is that maybe a couple of kanthony shippers have said she was a bit too harsh with him cause god forbids audience members feel more connected with the protagonist and not his mom. Also the fact you want Kate to share screentime with Mary and Edwina again when she was treated like crap by them is not it for someone who claims to love Kate. But I guess it's not surprising when you're buddy buddy with that selcouth account who not so secretly hates Kanthony and Kate and has polite convo with the bloggers who call Kate a homewrecking whore. You know your friend writes fic in which Anthony is beaten up and Kate continues to be miserable post wedding for the sake of poor innocent Edwina?And thinks Anthony should give a fuck about Edwina doesn't let him call her by her first name? Tell your friend he eyefucked Kate at the altar in front of her, let me assure you edwina lovers he doesn't give a fuck about her brattiness the majesty. Leave Kate and Kanthony out of your mouth.
aww how sweet of you that you think y'all are the first people to dickride for anthony at the expense of female characters! i can assure you that i've been beefing with his stans since before kate's casting announcement. kathonies are not the first to drag violet to defend him, or even the first stans to demonise their male fave's mother while excusing his own behaviour. sienna/anthony shippers did the exact same thing long ago painting violet as the evil hag who wouldn't let poor little anthony run off into the sunset with sienna in s1.
also why the fuck wouldn't i want kate to fix her relationships with edwina and mary? i've criticised edwina repeatedly for never apologising to kate since day 1. that's something we never saw in s2 so yeah, i definitely want to see that and i consider necessary for them to rebuild their relationship on better terms after the wedding fiasco.
what i consider hypocritical as fuck is being totally ok with kate forgiving anthony when he hardly did enough to deserve her forgiveness after all the pain he put her through, but drawing the line at her stepmother and sister.
anthony literally ruined kate in 2x04 and not only didn't assume his responsibilities as he forced simon to do with daphne in s1, but had the nerve to propose to her sister the very next morning. so yeah, if i can support kate being with anthony in the s2 finale when he was calling her "the thorn easily removed" from his and edwina's lives just two episodes back, because that makes her happy, i can sure as hell root for her making up with the women that have been her entire world for the past 26 years as well.
as far as i'm concerned neither anthony nor edwina did right by kate in s2. edwina because she blamed her for anthony's actions and was ungrateful, when all kate had done was sacrifice after sacrifice for her to be happy. and anthony because he never showed kate the respect he demanded men to show to his sisters and chose to go after her baby sister only to publicly humiliate both sharma girls in front of anyone when they were at the altar.
i'm old enought to be able to form my own opinion about characters instead of joining fandom groupthink or liking/disliking them based on how their fanbase behaves. if that was my criterion i don't think there's a single ship i'd support in the bridgerton fandom, considering that i disagree with most kathony and benophie stans on twitter for always coddling anthony and benedict and excusing their misogyny.
and frankly, i'm extremely uncomfortable with the way you and many kathony stans talk about edwina. y'all are literally victim blaming an 18yo child for falling for a grownass man who went after her and ruined her in the eyes of society. you constanly infantilise anthony when he has more privilege than 99% of men in england, while spending your time talking shit about a teenage girl.
that's not holding edwina responsible for her behaviour towards kate, it's misogyny, plain and simple. she has every right to treat anthony like filth for the rest of her life after what he did to her and be protective of kate, like kate was of edwina when anthony was courting her, after his abhorrent treatment of both sisters.
a 30yo man not giving a fuck about a teenager he strung along and ruined isn't the gotcha that you think it is. except you clearly have such a sexist worldview that you consider him to be the "prize" edwina lost and kate won, rather than a man who hurt them both deeply and took advantage of his privilege over them.
if i should keep kate out of my mouth for wanting to see her have a healthy and wholesome relationship with her family, so should you people for being ok with anthony doing the bare minimum to win her after the hell he put her through.
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nooks-cranny-mogai · 7 months
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Here's Clover's advice for the day: block for any reason.
Break your DNI? Block
Make you even a little uncomfortable? Block
You disagree on something that, maybe your generally ok with disagreers, but they seem extreme or it comes up often? Block
Seem annoying? Block
Claims to be supportive/unsupportive of something but suspicious/reblogs dog whistles n shit? Block
Constantly dming you and you didn't sign up for that? Block
Doesn't respect your boundaries? Block
Not blank blog but has no views or anyway to tell if they break your DNI? Block
Mutuals with someone who breaks your DNI? Block
Constantly passive aggressive to others they dislike, even if it's not towards you? Block
Overly aggressive/violent towards those who are on both your dnis? Block
Immature to a degree that's just silently pissing you off? Block
Lies to you, even if it's innocuous? Block
Neutral on an issue that either has no moral neutral stance/shows compliance with serious issues/you feel strongly about it? Block
Have an extreme view of something you agree with but they support aspects you don't? Block
Seem chronically online and your not with that hyper vigilant crap? Block
Not getting your social signals that one or two dms/asks is not a contract for 6 to 10 to 50 a day? Block
They seem fine but their vibes are atrocious? Block
Wether you've been friends/mutuals for 6 days, 6 months or 6 years, you don't owe someone your space and content. Your blog is your space, you make it what it is, you decide what's on it. DNI violation and personal harassment is not the only valid reason to block someone. If you find yourself waiting and searching for a reason to block someone, just waiting for them to slip up again, just block them and be done with it. One small reason is reason enough. One suspicion is reason enough.
I've blocked people for supporting the same shit I have but being annoying or performative about it. I've blocked people cause I found one word on their whole blog thats only used by proshippers. I've blocked people for being part of a fandom I know is toxic and them showing signs of being on the toxic side. Any small reason is enough and you don't owe that person "the chance to change/prove themselves". Not on the Internet. This isnt a parent or long time irl friend, this could be a person you dm daily or a person who liked a single one of your posts.
I'm tired of the social expectation that I should have at least 3 reasons to be able to block someone or a clear violation of boundaries. If you have bad vibes, I don't have to let you prove yourself or interact with me or my content. Yeah, it's nice to have the reasons but you don't have to have them. This applies to even irl interactions. So much weird shit I've been argued with about on places like tiktok or twitter have been benefited from me just saying, quoting a popular post from here " your either not having this convo in good faith or your world view is so warped from reality that there are days worth of things you'd have to unlearn for us to understand each other. This is pointless so it is here we must part" and a swift block in the ass.
Yeah, socially it's nice to keep contact with that one ex-coworker who never seemed to understand you two aren't friends, just acquaintances but the reality is there is no actual reason to keep that contact. That doesn't excuse yelling at them or insulting them or anything but they aren't entitled to your time and attention. Your not friends, slowly but gracefully, cut them off. Online people are not any different. I don't owe you conversation or attention or anything other than basic human respect. I also owe myself respect and if your constantly disrespecting me, even if unintentionally, I have the right to enact the consequences and block.
Idk why this is so controversial? Is it the 'tism??
#clover speaks#clover rants#i never understood the issue with just blocking#i dont owe anyone the 10 minutes it takes to search someones blog for shit#like if ur suspect i have every right to block#if i see one post im not scrolling for counter eveidence this aint court#im auto blocking#and guess what? i never lost sleep over people i quote unquote blocked for no reason#btw this isnt a vague#the points are ones ive seen but not with anyone i currently interact with#old quote unquote friends and acquaintances#i try to be understanding if theres potentially mental delay involved its always nice to be nice bu5#at some point you have a right to exist without any person in your personal life#its this cool thing called personal space and everyones entiteld to it#i dont have to correct everyone i come across whose a bigot and i dont have to concede to community standards because social shit#i ran into someone who said inmates dont derserve medical help and guess what?#the 140 characters tiktok lets you have cant unpack all thats wrogn with that statement#so i just said their morality issues are not the problems of others and everyone deserves healthcare and moved on#Sometimes that person just wants to piss you off and no matter your quote unquote progressive activist status#you dont have a moral obligation to fix people#theres no way to fix everyone and many people here are not academically qualified to talk on the issues they do#many of us are not actually activists. most of us just reblog shit and thats supposedly activism#which it isnt and neither really is the weird statement that existing as a trans/gay/etc person is activism#which has some merit but the reality is that it applies a philosophy to all trans people that simply isnt teue#there are plenty of anti-trans trans people and its a weird cop op used by alot of us as to why you dont volunteer or donate any money#all lip service and reblogs with emotionally charged tags over issues you dont face 🤬#imma stop im old man ranting but still oml
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bootyfullsoull · 11 months
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I have an odd relationship with my co-worker.
When we came back to the office I kept to myself and never thought about talking to anyone. Until she started talking to me and those who are stuck here all began to get along (myself and two male peers along with her) anyways. . .
I feel like she only became “friends” with me because she has no friends. I mean she does but idk it’s a weird vibe. I’m outspoken and so is she but when I disagree with somthing it’s like she gives me the silent treatment. I know this is her projecting or maybe I’m tripping but idk it’s a little upsetting cos my vibe is peaceful and humorous but this ruins the whole atmosphere.
Let me explain a little more.
The other night myself, her, and my male co-worker got in a heated disagreement over the Will Smith incident where he slapped the hell outta Chris Rock. Her defense was that Chris spoke bad on Jada when we all know she did Will wrong so my male co-worker and I were in agreement that he shouldn’t have slapped Chris over something so foolish not to mention JADA DID WILL WRONG. Don’t embarrass yourself over someone who clearly has no respect for you.
Because of this disagreement she has hardly spoken to me even tho we’ve been alone in the office the past two days and it’s awkward af like I understand you don’t like conflict neither do I but I don’t take things like that personal. Their lives have nothing to do with us. It was a silly thing to even discuss. I usually don’t partake in my peers convos about celebrities but Idgaf but I’m shook that something like this was taken so serious.
I know what I will do, a peace offering of her favorite tea 😪😬🙏🏼🥴
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bioethicists · 2 years
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I get where youre coming from but when we say "women can be evil too" we are not saying that to reinforce misogyny. We're saying that to fight against bioessentialism (whats a woman? Are trans women included? Are trans men? If thats the case when do they start or not?), we're saying that to support victims of sexual violence, emotional violence and physical violence perpetrated by women. We're saying that acknowledge dynamics that happen between privileged women and disenfranchised groups (men of color, queer people esp women, disabled men, etc.). You are not helping by conflating that with misogyny, you are just making them louder and erasing our voices.
Sincerely, pelase check what a group is actually saying before reblogging stuff like that. It happens all the fucking time on every singlentopic and yeah the outrage is addictive but also maybe learn to recognize that.
Just because bigots are jumping on catchphrases to make it sound like we're saying the same thing, doesnt mean we are. Bigots do that all the time with all topics, you gotta learn not to give them credit and not to let them dominate the conversation.
i think we're talking about convos happening in 2 separate spaces bcuz i don't disagree with anything you're saying and i do think there are very important convos to be had about gender dynamics, particularly as they play out irt race- there are the conversations happening in insular progressive spaces about leftists who have swallowed the gender essentialism that man=person who is evil and woman=person who is a victim. this is obviously (trans)misogynistic and a serious problem in progressive spaces, particularly with the ways that white woman hide their role in maintaining white supremacy and deny the access to power they have, granted to them PRECISELY because of that believe of woman=person who is a victim.
that's not what that post was about- it was about this new mainstream fixation on reusing and rehashing misogynistic rhetoric (ex calling women hysterical, baselessly claiming women manipulate and lie in order to fuck over men , saying that the court system favors women, calling women bitches and wh*res and sluts) to claim that feminism has progressed far enough that "now we all believe women are innocent when they can be evil too". the key point is this lie that, outside of insular progressive spaces or racialized power dynamics, there is some sort of widespread public sympathy or respect for women over men.
i don't think the post made that clear bcuz it was part of a burst of other posts which clarified that point, but you are certainly correct in everything you're saying and i can see how, w/o the context of the conversation they're referencing, it seems like it's bashing these necessary convos.
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pearlcages · 2 years
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Your writing is amazing.But I'm having trouble understanding Callie. She's just so ott with her hatred of Arizona. I get that Arizona hurt her deeply, but come on. A isn't inherently untrustworthy in every area of her life, their marriage didn't end just because of A. Years after the divorce & Callie is still showing zero self awareness. Half of this fic is written from Callie's pov, so I find it baffling that there isn't one moment of "we both fucked up" among the relentless hostility towards A
i think this is such a fair critique and i'm totally open to it! i'm gonna try to explain why i specifically wrote it this way using the touchstone points within canon for how i've been characterizing callie so far, so that hopefully you can understand my perspective on how i'm writing her. but i wanna start off by saying i totally get why you think this. i'm just sharing here, not disagreeing!
i really do believe that up until chapter 5, callie has been doing her best to maintain a good relationship with arizona. she hasn't initiated any of their disagreements and she's been consistently reaching out, even when she doesn't realize that that's what she's doing. despite believing that she's avoiding arizona, because at the end of the day callie is so incapable of not seeking arizona out
honestly, it's primarily been arizona who's resistant to them being entirely amicable-- and that's not even coming down to a genuine dislike of callie but tbh we can discuss arizona's mental state at a different time. up until the necklace convo in chapter 5, callie's mostly been responding to arizona initiating little moments of tension. to me, callie hasn't really been relentlessly hostile. she's just human and responding to some deep wounds with bad habits
so! two points i really circle back to as to why callie goes right into that fear mindset immediately after putting such a huge amount of trust in arizona (bringing her in on ava's case) are 10x01 and the custody battle. in 10x01 she's reeling from the immediate aftermath of the cheating and that combination of panic and anger makes her openly question arizona professionally; during the custody battle her personal emotions, all of that residual resentment from the end of their marriage, and her immediate goal to not lose penny make her attack arizona's position as a mother. i will wholeheartedly acknowledge that later in 10x01, she does admit that she respects arizona professionally but that's after the adrenaline fades, after she's already snapped and had time to regret it
the point of both of these examples is that callie has a documented history of letting her personal feelings about arizona cloud her view of arizona as a person and a doctor in the moment, lashing out, and then coming back to herself later once she's had time to reflect. that's the basis for my characterization here
but you're right! it's been years since their divorce, so why should callie fall back into those old habits?
genuinely because she's scared as hell. by bringing arizona in, she's put herself in a really tenuous position where suddenly if anything goes wrong on ava's case, she is personally responsible. this isn’t low stakes for her, this is the life of a child she loves. it's hard to entirely trust anyone in that situation, but with arizona it's so much more complicated already. she's scared and she's reactive, and the necklace conversation just added a little twist of (perceived) betrayal at the worst possible moment.
again, i so welcome different interpretations of callie as a character and i explicitly do not think you're wrong, at all! but i also want to be clear that i'm not pulling random bits of characterization out of thin air to fuel the conflict within KTB. honestly, at its core KTB is a quiet story about human fallibility
arizona has been pushing callie away for months at this point, and callie is feeling that rejection on top of this deep, genuine responsibility and love for ava/gloria. that's going to make her act irrationally
i'm definitely not a perfect author, but i do want y'all to know that i try to base every characterization choice i make in specific canon moments :)
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aftonfamilyvalues · 2 years
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God I’m so upset rn. He’s genuinely so frustrating sometimes and what’s annoying is that he does this on purpose. I hate it. So so much. It’s hard to explain this but he has this amazing moments or days where he’s genuinely the coolest guy ever. We’ll have great convos and everything will be alright and then he’ll just stop. I make the mistake of complimenting him and he does as much as he possibly can to piss me off and it’s annoying bc it works. Fazfuck I’m so annoyed it’s like he tries to push me away but he can’t go all the way. It really sucks. I genuinely like him and I feel like I’m going crazy bc of him. He’ll start an argument over something that even he disagrees with apparently just for the hell of it. Apparently he doesn’t get anything from it. But he does! And he doesn’t want to tell me! And I get so so upset and he knows it. This guy will send me specific songs that he thinks I’ll like and then act like he doesn’t actually care but he does! Every single time! This guy went from being extremely adamant about hating women and telling me that he doesn’t see them as people and now it’s different. I think. A few weeks ago he had a panic attack asking me a bunch of questions about how he would know whether he’s changed. About whether he’ll still be an incel. That’s what he’s worried about. About whether I(some girl he’s never even seen before) will change him. It’s so confusing. He makes strange comments at times and it’s nauseating bc I don’t even think he realizes what he’s doing or saying. How is that fair? It really sucks. We’re terrible for each other and I think it’s bc we’re too similar. I hate that. I hate it so much. I can’t leave him and he can’t leave me. How fucked up is that
its a test. you know how guys always talk about the "ride or die" girls? hes testing to see if youre that. you dont want to be that, all that means is you wont have any boundaries and always run back to him no matter how shitty he is. hes playing with you.
hes also putting everything on you because he WANTS you to fix him. he still hates women and sees us as subhuman, now he just wants something from one of us so hes changing his tone. hes still an incel, just one whose found a plaything. dont be that plaything.
seriously, i think you need to stop talking to all these guys. stop doing whatever this is. the way you keep coming to my inbox with all these things to say and all these issues? you put too much into these weird little relationships and not enough into yourself. learn some self respect, you cant fix people and even if you could its literally not your responsibility. it doesnt seem like this is actually for fun, youre not trolling any more, youre torturing yourself. work on your attachment issues, you talk to these men for like a week max and then tell me you love them and cant let them go. youre driving yourself crazy over bottom of the barrel men.
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grapecaseschoices · 2 years
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9, 12, 23, 30 for Kendis and Nate please:)
Send me a ship and a number and I’ll tell you
9. Do they discuss big issues? Religion? Marriage? Children? Death?
Eventually, yes, they will. Kendis talks to much not to. No, Kendis feels like these kind of topics - and just general conversation period (surprising for Mx. Conceal Don't Feel) - are important basis when starting and CONTINUING a relationship.
And Nate is Mr. Schmoop. I think it is more important for Kendis to establish a baseline for this (so she knows what she's getting into) both because of Nate being a vampire as well as his job/tendency of being a big damn hero/wanting to help people (okay, Mr. Let Me Help This Diseased Supernatural Even Though IDEK WTF Is Happening. Okay. She sees you.)
Funnily, Religion is the easiest topic for them to cover. Kendis is agnostic but mostly respectful, so whatever Nate wants to bring to the table, they are supportive. Nate wants marriage but is smart enough to to expect that this will be a long haul convo given how long it took Kendis for even CONSIDER dating him.
They both love kids so much, but I think they might stick to fostering. That might change, but Kendis doesn't really think it's fair to bring a child into their lives permenantly. And Nate doesn't disagree. Both have issues talking about the other's death. Kendis is pointed about reminding Nate that she can and will die. Those convos dont always end well.
But discussions do happen, yes! Sometimes less than more qwerte
12. Is there a wedding? What was the proposal like? Any kind of honeymoon?
No.
But there IS a honeymoon. Lmao. Kendis says they (singular) deserve one. And whisks Nate away, because fuck the agency. Nate thinks it's highly romantic, but convinces Kendis to at least call Adam to let him know where they (plural) are and keep him updated (Adam is both frustrated at this foolishness and happy they're safe/happy.)
23. How do they hug? Kiss? Tease? Flirt? Comfort?
Kendis isn't a hugger! Kendis is generally anti-touch unless they initiate, but Nate would be allowed soft, gentle brushes. His fingers against their forearm, a light kiss to their temple. Kendis can and will squeeze his fingers or forearms. ONCE IN A BLUE, if it looks like Nate is really wrecked, he can lean his forehead on their shoulder (benefit of having a tall so) and she will pat his back (which actually ive grown to like better than rubbing one’s back, thanks kdramas for that introduction) Even more rarely he’ll get an embrace - because Kendis is actually hug shaped for a tall lean person - but that’s when it looks like he’s DROWNING. And given how Nate is ... Nate about certain emotions, it’s a progress to let them even SEE him in such a state, nevermind receiving COMFORT in such a state. (They’re working on it)
These two are BIG on teasing. Nate is a flirt while Kendis a tad more blunt to like his coyness, but their flirty comes off as teasy. She’s just so fucking insolent lmao. Like, in general. Impudent witticisms is her bag. But as flirting, them riffing off each other, it’s sexy, brow wriggling stuff, but it's also just fun? (I don’t know how to describe it, but you’ve seen how the detective and Nate get. Just take that mix HOTNESS with cheesy with Kendis popping his bubble lmao ... or trying, he’s full of flirty helium. He’s resistant lmao. They can range from PLEASE TO GET A ROOM his is bordering on R to PLEASE GET A ROOM YALL ARE JUST GROSS. Kendis: You’re so into me, huh? Nate: You know I am. Kendis: I know you know I know you are. I’m just saying ;-D Morgan: *vomits*) Kendis is often sardonic and sometimes their teasing can come off harsh but Nate is good at reading between the lines and can twist his rejoinder into something so soft that even throws Kendis off kilter and HE LOVES how she huffs and rolls her eyes but then smirks/smiles.
30. Could they manage a long distance relationship?
Hm. I don't know. I think it might be hard, because I feel a present as both of them are when they're all in, there's an emotional distance to each and that is easier to tackle with proximity. I feel if it happened, it would have to be down the road. I feel Nate would do most of the constant hard-core matienance (scheduling talk time, etc) but Kendis would do more of the longer term stuff (sending like gift baskets). I think both would make the effort to visit, so that would help.
So I think it is POSSIBLE.
so much thanks (again) @plasticdodecagon had a blast!
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golbrocklovely · 2 years
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I would have to disagree with the latest anon who said they're running a fan page that's gotten big and wants to know why we, as a fan base, love and support the boys.
Just because some fans say something about their appearance does not mean they support them for their looks, it just means that it's not always the time to be kissing ass and say they're the biggest heartwarming people and the kindest and stuff. Lots of us already know that, if u want to interact with other pages, u're not gonna talk about what a nice person Colby is or what a great thing Sam did, because it's pretty known they're mot assholes and have lots of respect and common sense of what's around them. I'm not saying the fan pages u interact with don't know they are good looking, but it makes the conversation longer talking about, idk let's say how good one of them looked in one vid and the answer would be yeah i think the outfit was also on point. From here, things can escalate and the conversation can getore interesting other than "oh wow he's so nice" and the answer would be "i know right?"
It depends a lot on what fan page or what fan u really encounter, but if u also stumble across people who have been in this fandom for such a long time, their behaviour is something that never really changed, the maturity is more proeminent now, but looks pretty much change. So yeah, maybe they're talking about looks because they have nothing else to add about how they actually are. It's not superficiality or whatever u wanna call them, it's pretty much being in this fandom for a lifetime
i think that's true too. while there definitely are fans that are only here bc they think snc are hot, that doesn't mean that anyone that talks about their looks is just that.
tons of fans have gone on and on about how much they love snc, how much happiness they bring, and all that jazz. but if you say that type of stuff all the time, it starts to come across as disengenuious. even if you are being serious.
and like you said, a lot of fans have been in this fandom for a long time, and it's easier to start a convo with ppl by saying "oh look how hot colby looked in today's video" than it is to say "how has snc changed your life" or something like that.
if anyone needs any positive reads of snc, just go thru twitter and their youtube comments. tons of ppl compliment them daily on how good their content is.
personally, i never see ppl say their content is bad, unless it's on here and it's us venting. but even then, there's nothing wrong with that.
i can point out that last week's video wasn't great, but that doesn't mean i hate snc now. hell, just bc i don't rate every video 10/10 doesn't mean i dislike them, and i think that's how a lot of fans feel.
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bonny-kookoo · 4 years
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Rabid (JJK x Reader) 🐾☁️💜🔞
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🐺Pairing: Jeon Jungkook x Reader
🐺Genre: A/B/O AU!, Werewolf AU!, Angst, romance, smut
🐺Warnings: alpha!kookers and his omega!reader, impreg kink, shifting, hybrid Au, werewolf Au, bangtan pack!, primal sex, biting, scratching, scenting, marking, knotting, size kink, strength kink, praise kink oh yes, protective boi kook, Jungkook asserting dominance smh, omega being the cute ball of soft cotton candy she is, fighting, blood, violence, injuries, best alpha doggo boi Jungkook, heart to heart convos, degrading names and not the kinky ones sadly, puppies, I repeat, puppies 🐶, omega!Jin, Omega!Taehyung, Beta Yoongi, Alpha Namjoon, alpha Hoseok, Beta Jimin, don’t worry Omega doesn’t automatically mean submissive oh boy Nop Nop, just read the damn thing it’ll make sense okay, Dead Dove Do Not Eat
🐺Summary: Jeon Jungkook and his Omega are a mates couple of Bangtan Pack. Recently, the sweet bubble they’ve created seems to grow weaker and weaker, as a feral pack attacks and kills wolfs left and right. Things take a dark turn, and for once, the big bad wolf is actually terrified. Terrified of loosing you.
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A pack's life wasn't always sunshine and rainbows, or comfort and protection.
Bangtan pack had learned that the hard way months ago, when Namjoons ex Mate had been violently attacked and killed. He'd mourned quite a bit, even though she'd been unfaithful and had refused to accept her own pups, leaving them with him and his pack as she'd continued her unbound lifestyle. It had still hurt him deeply- yet it was a thing that happened.
He got over it.
And he was happy again these days, as he watched Taehyung and Jin play with his two pups, who still weren't old enough to shift into their human forms. They would stay like that for a while longer, and sometimes Namjoon caught himself wishing that they could just stay like that forever- without having to worry too much about their human sides like he and his pack had to. But it would happen eventually, and he hoped they would grow up to be just as respectful and caring as the rest of his pack was.
Taehyung and Jin were, together with Jungkooks Mate, the only omegas of the pack. While you were the only one who would bear her own pups in the future, Taehyung and Jin took on the roles of caring for his children. He was glad he had them with him- he was not fit to be an only-father due to his alpha side. "What're you thinking about?" Yoongi, the pack's Beta asked from the sidelines, coffee in hand as he watched Taehyung and Jin play with the youngest of the pack, letting the young pups claw and bite their fur without much resistance.
"I'm glad things are returning to normal." He explained, and Yoongi nodded, when Jungkook and you stepped in from your recent grocery shopping trip. Namjoon laughed as the two excited pups immediately yapped and stumbled towards you, making you kneel down to greet them properly. He caught Jungkooks soft gaze on you immediately, already knowing that he would turn out to be a great father and alpha for his own litter in the future. "Everything okay out there?" The Alpha asked Jungkook, who nodded, although not too confident.
"We caught some scents near the borders when we returned, but it wasn't too evident. They probably only want to provoke again." He sighed out as he took the other plastic bags you had discarded next to you, placing them on the kitchen counter and sitting on the couch, next to yoongi. "Do you want me to patrol again?" He asked his leader, as he'd turned quiet and a bit thoughtful at his comment.
"No." He said, and Yoongi furrowed his brows. "If they want to provoke, let them. I'm not biting the bait." He explained, and Jungkook nodded, before he turned his head, having heard you shift. Namjoons mind eased up a little as he watched you, Tae and Jin groom the pups, motherly instincts growing more and more these days. "She'll be a great mother." He hummed, and Jungkook grinned, as if the praise was sent towards him. In a sense it was, because even though Namjoon had talked about his mate, he could hear his alpha inside his head.
ɢᴏᴏᴅ ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ. ᴏᴜʀ ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴇsᴛ. ᴘᴇʀғᴇᴄᴛ ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ. ɢᴏᴏᴅ ᴄʜᴏɪᴄᴇ.
You slowly detached yourself from them after a moment, walking over to Jungkook as you placed your head onto his thigh, careful not to interrupt the discussion he currently held with Yoongi. Almost as if on instinct his hand placed itself onto your head, large palm running over your soft fur, making your ears droop to the side a little to give him more room for his affection.
ᴀʟᴘʜᴀ ʟᴏᴠᴇs ᴜs.
Even though you sometimes disagreed with your omega, she was right on most occasions. You've had some small trust issues before you'd met Jungkook, being raised with the warning that Omegas were easily taken advantage of, you were wary of anyone around you. He'd slowly brought you out of your shell however, with promises you knew he'd keep and lots of understanding, communication, and affection. Nowadays, he could kick you around like he wanted, if he wanted to- you would still wag your tail and seek his praise straight after.
It should scare you, but you knew he would never let you down like that. He'd never betray your trust like that. Your whole pack would keep you safe.
ɢᴏᴏᴅ ᴘᴀᴄᴋ. ᴘᴀᴄᴋ ᴋᴇᴇᴘs ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀs sᴀғᴇ. ᴘᴀᴄᴋ ʟᴏᴠᴇs ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ.
Your head slipped from his thigh for a second as you'd almost fallen asleep, making Jungkook chuckle and Namjoon snort. You shyly laid down at Jungkooks feet, before he patted the space next to him on the couch. "Come up baby, you don't have to lay on the ground." He said, and you jumped up on the couch, halfway laying on his lap as he continued his talk, his voice lulling you to sleep.
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"Hmm.. so sweet." He humms against your neck, as you slowly wake up. His hands are already running over your naked stomach, upwards to cup your chest in his palm, enjoying the feeling of your soft skin underneath his fingers. His eyes are still closed, and he only rumbles out something that almost sounds like a purr every now and then as his lips curl into a lazy but content smile, his nose burying itself into your neck where your scent is strongest. He opens his mouth to run his canines along the skin, before leaving an open mouthed kiss there, making you squirm around a bit in his hold. He moves his legs to cage yours in, as he chuckles when you whine against him. "So soft.. so warm.." He muses, still not quite awake yet you notice as your own body still fights the clouds of sleep as well.
sᴜᴄʜ ᴀ sᴡᴇᴇᴛ ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ. ᴏᴜʀ ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ.
His alpha humms pleased inside his head, happy to have you close to him, satisfied to know you're in his arms. This is where he knows you're safe, where he knows nothing could happen to you.
He squeezes your breast a bit harder, before his thumb moves over your nipple, his deep brown eyes opening a crack to see your form next to him, relaxed and comfortable in his hold, and he feels proud. You're letting him see you so vulnerable, so bare of any form of guard up, you let him guide you however he feels fit for you, and his heart swells as your hands reach for his skin, desperate to feel him close, even though you already are. The times you felt self-conscious and shy at the mere fact you were naked were long gone by now. You felt comfortable around him, enough to know your bond is one without judgement. His eyes lock onto the bite mark still present on your neck, a prominent sign he carried as well, like a wedding band for humans, but way more final than that. It was as if he could see his future with you in the scar on your skin, and he loved every bit of it.
You suddenly playfully bite after his hand which tried to move some hair out of your face, and his eyes widen a bit at the gesture, making you open yours as well. The teasing glint awakes something inside him as you suddenly wiggle your legs around, trying to get on top of him as he grins, locking your legs with his as you whine, pushing at his chest as he chuckles. He grabs your wrist and tries to pin it down as you suddenly move your face to the side, nipping at his fingers without the intention to bite. "Hm, you wanna play?" He asks amused when you duck out of his grasp, only getting as far as laying your stomach over his side, legs still tightly interlocked with his. You claw at his back and he hisses for a moment, yet he doesnt seem mad about it at all as he moves his leg, giving you freedom. For a moment.
Before you can make it out of the bed he grabs your upper arm, pulling you against his chest as you hit his shoulder with the back of your head, now genuinely whining in frustration as he simply laughs. You struggle in his hold, uncaring of both of your nudeness and the way his prominent erection was poking against your lower back. You reach your arms over your head, trying to catch his skin with your fingers to claw at it, yet it only turns into your own demise as he simply raises his arm as well, palm easily catching your wrists and holding them above your head as his nose nuzzles against your neck teasingly.
You grin as he kisses and licks at your bonding mark, happily giving up your fight at this display of affection.
He finally moved around after throwing you backwards on the bed again, towering over your form as he roughly manhandles you around so you are placed on your stomach, before pulling your hips up, making you mewl as you instinctively present to him, making him groan as he leans down, his chest against your back as you could feel his erection between your legs. His hand reaches for your center, chest vibrating against your back as he humms approvingly when his fingers find you already wet and ready for him.
ᴀʟᴡᴀʏs sᴏ ᴘʀᴇᴛᴛʏ ғᴏʀ ᴜs. His alpha cooes. ᴀʟᴡᴀʏs sᴏ ʀᴇᴀᴅʏ. ᴏᴜʀ ᴘᴇʀғᴇᴄᴛ ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ.
Jungkook lets his hand move a bit over your lower lips until he deems you prepared enough. His hand pumps his waiting length for a second, before he enters you quite roughly, sighing at the feeling of your warm walls around him. You felt like home, like comfort, like a safe space that only belonged to him.
ʙɪᴛᴇ. ʙɪᴛᴇ. ʙɪᴛᴇ.
He leans down his head, takes the skin of your neck between his teeth as he bites, before letting go, and repeating that action over and over again until he huffs against your skin in hot breaths. His one arm is hooked underneath your lower belly to keep you snug against him and positioned properly, while his other grabs at your chest roughly, making you mewl as he grunts, every thrust of his hips shaking your body a bit. You try to get up on your arms in front of him, as he suddenly leaves your breasts alone, instead grabbing the back of your neck before he pushes you into the pillows below, careful to let you breathe as you move your face to the side, blissed out expression showing him to keep going. His alpha slowly takes over, moves more to the surface as his voice is rough, low. You're not scared of him, however. You know, just like Jungkook, his alpha would never hurt you. Your Omega bathes in the praise he gives you, making you whine and gasp out when he suddenly slows down his pace, instead thrusting with more force and deeper into you as the sound of skin against skin echoes in the room.
"So warm.. So sweet.. So submissive.." He rumbles out as he mouthes at your shoulder, hot breath making your skin tingle as you grasp the sheets below you, your high slowly reaching its peak as he cooes. "Are you gonna cum little omega? Cum for your alpha?" He asks, and you simply not, drowsy mind having a hard time answering as he suddenly yanks at your hair, stopping everything for a moment as he keeps your head up, his face close to yours as he growls out. "I asked you a question Omega." He grits out. "You wanna play more little one?" He asks amused as you simply rut against his hips, making him growl as he picks up where he left off, his pace relentless as he chases his end, noticing the way you start to clench around him, needing him, wanting him, craving him just as much as he does.
"A-Alpha!" You groan out as you cum, and he bites down hard where your bonding mark lays, grunting out as he still thrusts without much rhythm, until you feel his warmth flood your walls. He sighes out, slowly growing lip against your back as his knot swells up, making you whine while he hushes you, moving a bit, careful not to pull too much as he spoons you, mouthing, licking, and kissing your neck and shoulder as your breathing calms down slowly. This is how you know Jungkook is back, the way he carefully moves the covers back over your bodies since he knows you get cold easily after sex, and the way he just.. doesnt say anything. He doesn't need to.
"Hm.. I can't wait for you to be filled with my pups." He humms out dreamily, drowsy and close to sleep. "All round and glowing. M' gonna protect you so well baby, gonna keep you safe and sound." He muses, and you nod, happily humming as your omega inside you rolls around in satisfaction.
ᴀʟᴘʜᴀ ᴡɪʟʟ ᴛᴀᴋᴇ ᴄᴀʀᴇ ᴏғ ᴜs. ᴀʟᴘʜᴀ ᴡᴀɴᴛs ᴜs ᴛᴏ ᴄᴀʀʀʏ ʜɪs ᴘᴜᴘs. ᴀʟᴘʜᴀ ᴡᴀɴᴛs ᴜs.
He kisses the back of your neck one last time before he settles for another round of sleep.
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"I don't feel good." You said at dinner once, and Jungkook immediately perked up at that.
"What do you mean? Are you sick?" He stressed, his overprotective nature coming to the surface as you scratched your neck, sheepishly shaking your head.
"No no, its not that!" You reassured him, before looking at Namjoon. "I mean, the entire situation. I know it's calm these days, but I don't know.." You admitted, and Jin placed a reassuring hand on your back.
"I get it. I guess it is a little weird." He said, and looked at Namjoon, who seemed in thought about the entire situation. Things have calmed down over the last few days, however, that was no reason to breathe out in relief. Things just calmed down so sudden and without any cause, that it made you feel as if something was off. It wasn't just you who felt like that but the entire pack, you knew this.
"We'll keep you safe either way." Jungkook promised from across you, and you nodded, continuing your dinner.
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Things did not turn out well.
When you smelled the intruders, Jungkook had already gotten up from his spot in the front yard of your home in the woods, together with Namjoon and Hoseok already looking out for anyone getting close. It happened suddenly, when Yoongi shouted, shifting immediately as a wolf attacked from the sides.
The rest was utter chaos.
Everyone, you included, shifted into wolf forms, biting and clawing away at the strangers who seemed to snicker and laugh at everything going on. It was as if it was a game to them, as if they were playing- yet there was nothing playful in their nature, as they bit hard on Hoseoks leg, making him yelp as Taehyung jumped to help him. You were no fighter, so you did the only thing rational to you.
You immediately went inside, grabbing the first pup by his neck before you carried him underneath the stairs, rushing into the living room to get the other.
ᴋᴇᴇᴘ ᴘᴜᴘs sᴀғᴇ. ᴘʀᴏᴛᴇᴄᴛ ᴘᴜᴘs. ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ʟᴇᴛ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ɢᴇᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴜᴘs.
Your omega was just as shaken as you were as you curled up around them, trying to soothe them the best you could as something crashed in the living room, heavy paws making its way towards you. You immediately positioned yourself in front of the terrified kids, which have scrambled into the smallest corner of the storage space under the stairs. Growling menacingly you tried to appear fearless in front of the dark grey wolf in front of you, who simply snapped its jaws at you. You ducked away from him, before you snapped at his leg, biting down hard before he managed to get a grip on your neck. You yelped as his teeth broke skin, but couldn't utter a sound as he pulled and pulled on your scruff, loosing grip before he bit again, another wound forming as you tried to desperately get out of his hold.
Another wolf joined in through the broken window in the kitchen, yapping like an excited hyena at the view of your fighting as he joined in, nipping and pushing you around with amusement as you tried to get them off of you, or at least keep their attention on you for as long as possible, so they wouldn't hurt the youngest.
The first wolf simply threw you down as you again bit his leg, tasting iron on your tongue as the stranger clawed at your backleg, biting and bruising skin as his teeth pulled mouthsfull of fur away from your body. The tufts of softness flew around in the air around you like feathers in a mere pillowfight, yet there was nothing sweet and innocent about this. You yelped out again, loudly, as you felt the skin around your backleg rip between the jaws of the stranger, making you immobile as the strangers suddenly decided to let you be, loosing their fun in you. You took this chance to scramble back to the terrified puppies, hiding them as you weakly curled up around them, your back facing away from them as they shivered, hiding underneath your bloody fur in desperate need of warmth and comfort. You wished you could soothe them, but you couldn't lift your head, blood sticky underneath your body as you tried to stay awake.
They snarl something along the lines of 'leaving the alphas bitch' alone, as they snicker outside, making you feel even worse than you did before.
You knew that Jungkook saw you as more than a mere Omega meant to please him and raise his offspring. You knew that he wasn't blinded by his instincts, and even if he was, his alpha was such a sweet existence which fit your own omega so well that it sometimes made you cry. You fall into a slumber, a vision of your past consuming you whole, as if to comfort your broken body.
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"..y. Baby?" He asks you, as your head snaps up from where it rested on your palm. He smiles at you with slight worry, as he points at your pancakes in front of you. "Your food's getting cold baby." He says, and you blush as you look down at your plate, barely touched at all.
sᴛᴜᴘɪᴅ ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ. ʏᴏᴜ sʜᴏᴜʟᴅɴ'ᴛ ʟᴇᴛ ғᴏᴏᴅ ᴏғ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴀʟᴘʜᴀ ɢᴏ ᴛᴏ ᴡᴀsᴛᴇ!
He sighed in front of you, moving the plate towards him as he cuts a piece, holding the fork towards you with an almost teasing grin. "Looks like I'm gonna have to feed you the old fashioned way." He says, and you take the bite as he grins his signature bunny smile. It makes him look so soft and happy, the way his eyes crinkle at the sides and his nose scrunches up. "Can't have my baby starve." He continues, as he cuts another piece. His alpha is weirdly happy about the situation.
ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ ᴍᴜsᴛ ʙᴇ ᴡᴇʟʟ ғᴇᴅ. ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ ᴍᴜsᴛ ʙᴇ ʜᴇᴀʟᴛʜʏ ᴀɴᴅ ʜᴀᴘᴘʏ.
He hates to do it, but he knows its necessary. "Whats on your mind?" He asks, and he visibly sees your shoulders slump down, as if he'd just taken your favorite book away. "I can see something is troubling you. Please talk to me." He asks. I want to help you, he wants to say, but he keeps it at his words as you slowly take a deep breath.
"They're saying things about me." You start, as he frowns.
"What things?" He asks, voice now a bit more serious. He knows who 'they' are- he knows that you talk about your classmates. He hates to see you being bullied, yet it happens, and you had told him again and again that he can't interfere, not so close to your graduation. You just want things to be done with.
"You're not gonna like 'em." You start, and he nods.
"Probably not. I promise I'm not gonna set your school on fire. But you need to talk to someone about it, and if not me than maybe Jin or Tae-" He continues, until you cut him off.
"Whore." You start, as his eyes widen. It seems as if he's frozen in time for a moment, before his gaze is on you again. "They.. they say I'm.. that you only keep me around because-" You try not to get too riled up as you recall their words. "-because I'm an omega thats good to fuck. Because I'm brainless, and the brainless ones are the best because they don't talk back and just choke on-" Jungkook cuts you off as he holds your hand.
"Stop." He mutters, and you simply look at the wooden table of the small restaurant you both are sitting in, as he sighes. "You're so much more to me than your body." He explains, and you melt under his gaze. "You're my mate, my partner for life, you're the part of my soul I didn't even knew I was missing." He continues, as he holds out another piece of sweetness in front of your lips, as your teary eyes gaze at him. "Their words mean nothing, okay? I love you. And only you." He says, as you take the bite from him. "You could ban me from your vagina for the next years to come and I'd still love you." He mutters playfully, as your cheeks redden.
You really do feel loved.
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Jungkook had heard your first yelp loud and clear, and it threw him so off guard that he lost focus for a moment, giving a wolf opportunity to jump up on him. He fought him off with a bit of effort, trying to get inside the house as he became more and more desperate as your cries reached his sensitive ears, making him grown more and more feral in his state of mind.
ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ ɪs ʙᴇɪɴɢ ʜᴜʀᴛ! ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ ɪs ɪɴ ᴅᴀɴɢᴇʀ! ᴡᴇ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴘʀᴏᴛᴇᴄᴛ ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ!
His alpha is restless, pretty much yells into his ears and he swore he would, he swore he would get to you but he couldn't. There were too many.
After a moment of seemingly endless fighting, Namjoon snaps the neck of another alphawolf, successfully ending the attack as the rest of the rogue pack leaves with whines and tails between their legs. Jungkook breathes for a moment, before a certain smell reaches his nose. He locks eyes with Namjoon, who had seemingly noticed it as well, before the big black wolf dashed into the house, stopping dead in his tracks at the scene of the trashed living room and open kitchen, blood and fur scattered around as the irony smell gets almost too much for his sensitive nose.
He can't see you, however.
Your blood and fur show him that you didn't hide successfully, and his heart races as he walks through the mess that is the main space of the house, before his ears catch the whimpering of pups.
There, underneath the stairs in the corner you're laying down. Your back is facing him, blood and saliva staining your fur, as you barely breathe. The pups, smelling the familiar pack, scramble out from underneath your paws, crawling over your body as they rush towards their father, who eagerly inspects them immediately. Jungkook has absolute tunnel vision in that moment however, as he noticed your lack of movement.
He's moving on pure instinct at this point, delicately grabbing your scruff as he carefully pulls you out of your hiding space, but not fully out in the open. He whines and whimpers at your form, limply laying on the ground as you barely breathe, making him restless as he walks from one side to the other, unsure what to do. His mind is in a frenzy, alpha going crazy, as he nudges you every now and then with his snout, silently begging you to get up. He gets pulled away from this however, when he noticed Jin walking towards him. He knows he's no threat. He knows he's pack. But he's not himself in that moment.
ᴘʀᴏᴛᴇᴄᴛ. ᴘʀᴏᴛᴇᴄᴛ. ᴘʀᴏᴛᴇᴄᴛ.
His alpha growls at him, and he does the same, as he scrambles to stand above your form, tail standing diagonal being him as his ears tall as he growls out low and dangerously, for the first time actually showing intention to attack his own brothers. Jin stays still as everyone watches from their spots, witnessing for the first time how their pack member turns against them.
'Jungkook-' Jin tries to communicate, but the younger alpha continues to growl, feet never standing still as he seems restless. As if he doesn't know what to do. He looks like a young wolf in that moment, scared, confused, and painfully upset. His smell is bitter and strong, sending of a warning to everyone in the room as his ears start to slowly droop.
'Protect. I have to protect. Don't- don't come here-!' he sends off, tail slowly moving downwards as he starts to feel the exhaustion in his bones. He slowly but surely moves around again on weak legs, laying down close to you as he leans his front legs over your body, licking your fur as if that would magically heal you.
'Wake up. Wake up. Wake up!' He chants over and over again, every word growing more and more high pitched and choked up as Taehyung lays down in sadness, feeling his brothers emotions full force, as well as everyone else who can't do anything but watch the young alpha fall apart. 'wake up..' he begs, burying his face into your bloody fur as he finally gives in. 'Please.. don't leave me.' are his last words, as his mind fades.
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Jin is quick to shift, as well as Namjoon and Yoongi, who immediately move the larger and heavier wolf off of you, before Taehyung can take you away with Hoseok. Jungkook slowly shifts back unconsciously as they lay him on the couch, no one having enough energy to bring him upstairs. Jin tends to his wounds as Taehyung and Hoseok bring you up the stairs into yours and Jungkooks room, as you slowly shift, making Taehyung gasp as he now sees the extend of your injuries.
There are cuts and puncture wounds all over your skin, scratches and bruises already blossoming. Your leg is the worst, open flesh gaping as he has to swallow, telling Hoseok what he needs in order to tend to your injuries.
Moments later, Jin steps into the room as well, helping his younger omega brother to care for you the best that they could before an actual doctor could take a look at you tomorrow.
"She'd told us something was off." Namjoon said with his head hanging low, arms scratched and bleeding as he watches from the doorway. "I should've listened to her." He continues, before Jin cuts in, not looking at his alpha as he continues to wash you gently.
"Self-pity won't help anyone in this situation now, Namjoon." He says, no real bite in his tone as he keeps his voice gentle, exhaustion evident however. Taehyung helps him wring out the wet cloth he's using to clean your skin, as he continues. "Things happened, and now we have to deal with the aftermath. We'll get through this, but only if we don't loose our heads over this." He explaines, the image of the youngest alpha not leaving his mind. "It's bad enough we have two of us down- her and Jungkook." He explains, as Taehyung voices his worries as well.
"Do you think he'll snap out of it?" He asks, as Namjoon chimes in.
"He has to." He says, and Jin turns around for the first time, lower lip bruised from a cut he'd received.
"Namjoon, don't be so harsh on the kid-" He starts, but gets cut off by his leader.
"He's not a kid anymore Jin. He's a full grown alpha that needs to get himself together." He argues, as Taehyung starts to defend his brother.
"No, he's a boy who almost lost his girl tonight, have some common sense!" He whines out, a low growl hinting in his tone that catches Namjoon off guard. Even Jin seems surprised. "We all accepted it when you grieved. So let him heal as well- you can't expect something like this to just go past him." He explains, as the alpha sighs.
"I'm a horrible leader, am I not?" He asks, and Jin smiles along with Tae as he answers.
"No." He answers, with a comforting gaze. "Because you listen to your pack. And the best leaders do exactly that. They listen to their pack, learn from their mistakes, and admit them if they happen." He humms, before opening his small kit to get out some cotton balls and desinfectant.
Namjoon simply nods, hoping that his oldest Omega is right.
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Jungkook awakes rudely from his dreamless sleep as he finds himself on the living room couch, dressed in comfortable clothes. For a moment he hopes everything had been a dream, but his aching bones and the mild smell in the air tell differently. He sits up, noticing the now cleaned living room, and the window that had been fixed with wooden planes for now. He can smell the rain outside as Jin steps down the stairs, locking eyes with Jungkook who immediately scrambles up, rushing towards him. "Where is she? Is she okay? She's okay right? She's fine right?" He rushes out, and watches past the eldest as Jimin thanks a stranger in a white coat and familiar hospital clothing. He doesnt listen to anybody as he moves past them upstairs, almost tripping as he opens the door to see you asleep underneath your covers, a butterfly stitch above your eyebrow. His eyes glaze over as his mind begins to fog, his feet moving him as if on autopilot as he walks towards you, unconsciously shifting.
Jimin wants to scold him to leave you alone, but the doctor shakes his head. Jungkook is so careful that even Yoongi who has joined the scene seems surprised. He moves as if you're made out of eggshells as thin as paper, carefully placing himself next to you above the covers Head resting on your stomach as he simply relishes in the mere fact that you're breathing. He barely fits on the bed made for two humans, but everyone lets him.
Jimin softly closes the door, before everyone walks downstairs.
"Is there anything we can do to help him?" He asks the doctor as he puts on his shoes. He sighes.
"Not much, I'd say, let him be close to her. It would only make them both more anxious if you keep them apart from one another." He explains, as Jimin and Yoongi bid the man goodbye and a safe trip home. Closing the door, Jin sighs, sitting down in the living room after folding the blanket Jungkook had slept under. Namjoon walks into the room, his arm still bandaged as he asks about the mated couple.
"Is he okay?" He asks, knowing about your condition already. "I've never seen him like that." He humms out, and Jimin shrugs.
"I don't think anyone ever has." He exclaims, and Namjoon nods, before taking the blanket from jin.
He carefully walks upstairs, opening the door of their room as Jungkooks ears perk up, the rest of him unmoving. The older alpha smiles sympathetically at his younger brother, closing the door behind him as he slowly walks towards them both. "Is that okay?" He asks carefully, as Jungkook simply closes his eyes again, a silent way of agreeing him this close. He drapes the blanket over the large black wolf, careful to tuck you underneath it as well as he sits down on the mattress, close to your hip. "She's gonna be okay." He said, as he looked at your sleeping form, Jungkooks head lifting itself to reposition. He sighed out a breath as the alpha chuckled. "Don't get huffy now pup. She's a strong one." Jungkooks eyes move to look at the elder one, and he sees something in it that Namjoon has not seen many times. Fear.
Namjoons eyes turn gentle as he looks at you for a moment, before he humms out. "You did well."
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When you walk downstairs, the entire kitchen grows silent, and you look up to see them all looking at you. Jungkook starts to choke on his food as he coughs, legs of the chair he is sitting on scraping on the tiles as he rushes towards you, carefully taking you into his arms as he holds you close. He breathes in your scent as he suddenly chokes up, violent sobs shaking his shoulders as he cries against your neck, tearfully kissing your bonding mark as you simply pet his head, smoothing out his hair as you try to calm him down. The rest of the pack has a similar expression on their faces, as Jin stands up to get another set of dishes and cutlery for you. Jungkook helps you down the last two steps as he leads you towards the kitchen table, uncaring of his still tear stained face. He sniffles, and Taehyung gives him a napkin with a teasing grin. He simply takes it, wiping his nose before he grabs at your hip, setting you onto his lap as you try to sit down on your chair.
He doesn't continue eating as he simple rests the side of his head against your shoulder, holding you close as he breathes in your scent. His alpha slowly calms down as you eat and move around, proving to him that you were actually there, that you were alive and well enough for now.
ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ ɪs sᴀғᴇ.
You thank jin as he pours you a cup of tea, when you turn towards Namjoon. "How are the pups?" You ask, wondering where they are as Namjoon smiles proudly.
"They're safe, and asleep upstairs." He says, and you nod, taking a sip of the warm beverage. "Thank you, by the way." He says, and you raise your eyebrows. "You did very well Omega. They're only safe thanks to you, and I owe you everything for it." He grows serious as you chuckle.
"It's my part of the pack Namjoon." You explain as you pick up your cutlery to stuff some rice into your mouth that Jungkook didn't finish. "I did what I had to." He humms in appreciation, as Jungkook silently rubs his cheek against the fabric of your sweater, the scent sending him into a mindset of pure comfort. He doesn't listen to anything being said, and you simply rest a hand on his arms that held you close to him. He noticed how cold they are, and immediately scrambles a bit to remove his zip hoodie, uncaring that he's only wearing a T-Shirt underneath as he placed the warm fabric over your shoulders.
ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ ɪs ᴄᴏʟᴅ. ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ ɴᴇᴇᴅs ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴡᴀʀᴍ. ᴡᴀʀᴍ ᴀɴᴅ sᴀғᴇ.
You chuckle a bit at the gesture, and Taehyung does the same. "He's gonna be like that for quite a while I guess." Yoongi comments, eyes holding a soft look as he watches the young alpha with you.
Jimin smiles as well as he places some meat onto yours- or more like Jungkooks abandoned- plate which you thank him for. "Let him be. I can't imagine what he must've felt like." He says, as you nod, before taking another bite.
"Let's see how long it takes for Y/N to grow tired of that man-pup." Hoseok comments, making everyone snort but Jungkook, who lowly growls, without much seriousness behind him. It sounds more like.. he's offended. He looks over your shoulder at his pack, as they all start to laugh, you included.
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The night is warm and cozy as Jungkook notices how you grow restless. You slowly gather pillows and sheets, blankets and clothing into the bed as he watches you tiredly. He wonders what you're doing for a moment, until he sniffs the air for a moment, eyes widening.
ᴘᴜᴘs. ᴏᴜʀ ᴘᴜᴘs. ᴡᴇ ᴍᴀᴅᴇ ɪᴛ.
His alpha is proud, and his soul swells as well as he helps you nest, holds you close as he can't stop his smile. His palm rests protectively over your stomach during this night, as his alpha howls in happiness.
ᴏᴜʀ ᴏᴍᴇɢᴀ. ᴏᴜʀ ᴘᴜᴘs. ᴏᴜʀ ғᴀᴍɪʟʏ.
And Jungkook couldn't agree more with his alpha in that moment. He couldn't wait to complete his family.
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This is all of Meokeob’s delusional rant in response to you from yesterday. Meokeob is a deeply disturbed individual and way too obsessed with Sam’s dating life with women that it’s creepy. I am beginning to think Meo is an angry, jealous gay man but I’ve heard from others that M is a woman with a husband which is just as strange. This fandom would be better off just to ignore Meo going forward because M spreads so many 🤥 falsehoods and fabricated stories about Sam, and the women he’s been involved with. M is also very arrogant, rude and completely full of themselves since I don’t know what gender this person is because M acts like blocking you is actually hurting you, lol. 😂😂😂 What it shows is Meo can’t handle the truth or others disagreeing with him or her and so it’s cowardly behavior when presented with the truth. The truth is Sam is not gay, the women are not beards, and he dates a variety of them. I support you Bcacstuff and I know you don’t have any kind of narrative, but Meo does and it’s weird. A person with a convoluted narrative and a warped imagination.
Thank you for submitting all of this and your support. I read the rant yesterday myself, other might not have because they are already blocked or didn't see it. I was at first a bit hesitant to post this, but decided to do so. If she hadn't blocked me yesterday I would have reblogged it myself. So, it's not meant to show here, look what she wrote to me in anyway, it doesn't hurt me. I don't even feel I need to defend myself here, as it is pointless.
It's actually what you see here the tone of communication she [or he, I admit for a long time she came across to me as a he, but I settled for a she as she kept insisting she was a she] uses. Take one little thing, blow it up to ridiculous proportions and make the other person in the convo look stupid, all in order to give her own opinion more weight. To me that comes across like some kind of inferiority complex.
Anyway, I always knew she has just one narrative and keeps defending it to the bone, no matter what. Whenever there is a new girl on the horizon, no matter if it is just a friend or something more, the first thing she does is trying to find any evidence it's a beard. Often saying the girl is lesbian, or at the least bi. I saw her doing this to Gia, AM and MC. Whether they are or not is not the important thing, it's the way she uses this as evidence to proof they are all beards.
I stopped reading her long comments a long time ago. Scrolled by for most of the time. Never saw her contributing anything substantial or noteworthy. So yes, there's one truth in her long rant, I wont miss her the least. As I said in another post today, I like a good discussion, but use arguments that hold and are substantial, listen (or in this case read) what the other person says and let it sink in for a bit. And most important, be respectful. You can always agree to disagree in a respectful way. That's the least I expect from a discussion.
Disclaimer: I don't want this to be the topic of the day here. There are other, far more concerning things in the world. And there are also other far more enjoyable thing. The release of Bridgerton f.i 😉
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what are ur thoughts on this?
The conflict between Hanji and Levi over the decision to let Erwin die was yet to be explored. and i am so cringey that people want hanji and levi to be closer after their death not to mention how painful it was for hanji to take that position because of levi.
"hanji and levi are good friends and understand each other. they don't need to talk about it because it hurts "bullshit. Conflicts between friends exist and resolving them is what makes a friendship stronger. Their" friendship "is too one-sided to consider their bond something special.
ngl this feels like such a reach to me, almost as if op(sorry im not gonna name them, they are a huge artist) is finding reasons to hate lh based on assumptions.like i too wanted them to have a convo regarding serumbowl but expecting their relationship to grow bitter over it just feels.... off?
Their convo regarding the Serumbowl was this:
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"THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO SAY"
Hange and Levi are Adults who have fought beside each other and survived hell together many times. Hange respects Erwin's orders and with it-Levi's decision too. Even though Levi put them in a tough spot, they hold no petty grudges.
Hange expressed clearly that they disagree with Levi, but respects his choice. Those antis who wanted a petty argument over this probably would say "See? They had an argument, they aren't close at all!!"
Lol you can never win with these ppl.
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did they actually read the chapter? Jaime is exhibiting sexual attraction to Brienne within the first few pages, there is never going to be this choice between a sex life and an inspiring woman or whatever. it's so demeaning to Cersei as well to reduce her to Jaime's sex life, and deny Brienne sexuality on the other hand because she's not beautiful.
okay, I think what was actually said on this podcast is going to get lost in translation over here if I just kind of vaguely refer to arguments I disagreed with. so to start with, I think anyone who's interested in what the NotACast guys and Dr Shiloh had to say on Jaime & Brienne would be best off listening to it themselves, I really don't want to misrepresent them here.
but I'll share the quote I was referring to, and preface that by saying that PoorQuentyn/Emmett does flat out state earlier in the episode that yeah, Jaime is sexually attracted to Brienne. he refers to the usual quotes, i.e. Jaime eyeing up her calves, picturing her in a dress, admiring her eyes, etc, etc. so far so good lol, obviously we've very much been over all that over in this sphere of fandom, but NotACast is most popular amongst fans from different spheres, including many fans who have not engaged at all with the discourse around JB. so, makes sense to include these foundational readings in the podcast.
anyway, the quote I was referring to (don't look at me transcribing is a weird hobby of mine):
PQ [1:19:56]: It’s interesting to me that you have this… kind of trying to decouple the courtly elements from the sexual elements? Because Jaime and Brienne do have that - more kind of - the chaste elements of the romance, with the actual sexuality kind of displaced onto Cersei. And it does feel like… it does feel like to me on some level that Jaime kind of wishes he could combine these two women. Like that would be the ideal for him*laughs*. As if he could force Brienne and Cersei into like, a machine from The Fly or something, and just make himself… that for him would be kind of the ideal, and I wonder if what George is trying to do is make that romantic ideal impossible for Jaime, by splitting it into two people. And saying, you can either have… your traditionally beautiful woman, you know, who you’ve been obsessed with, and your partner, or you can be with a person who makes you feel like a true knight. But these are antithetical. And I think that’s interesting.
(I'm putting the rest under the cut because this is long.)
this take is actually kind of bizarre when you consider the fact that, as I said, PQ has already acknowledged that there is a sexual element to JB. perhaps he's just riffing off of the convo BBF and and Dr Shiloh have just had where they wonder where to place Cersei in the conversation between JB and Arthuriana. personally I'd say that Cersei doesn't really belong in that conversation, and that's kind of the point: Jaime's wanted her to, but she never has. however, Dr Shiloh argues that Cersei and Brienne parallel the two women in Lancelot's life, where Lancelot is Jaime, Cersei = Guinevere, Brienne = Elaine of Corbenic (I... do not agree lmao but that's a separate matter)
so PQ's following on from this strain, comparing and contrasting the roles of Brienne and Cersei in Jaime's narrative, just feeling around for what sounds right by the looks of it. however! this does not sound right to me. let's unpack!!!!
It’s interesting to me that you have this… kind of trying to decouple the courtly elements from the sexual elements? Because Jaime and Brienne do have that - more kind of - the chaste elements of the romance
so as we've just established, there are sexual elements to JB in Jaime I alone, but they do not stop there: they get more pronounced. in fact by Jaime III they're already pretty explicit: JB have that entire sword fight in the river that is literally screaming look at their physical chemistry (I wrote more on that here) - the whole fight is half written as a sex scene, it's not remotely subtle.
and of course the undertones continue, to the point that they're not even undertones anymore, it's just Jaime getting an erection in the bath as he stares at Brienne's naked body.
but there are courtly elements too, and I won't list all of them off but these are best encapsulated in Jaime IX, where JB are almost meeting again for the first time, as they might in a traditional courtly setting where Jaime is dressed as a dashing knight and Brienne is dressed as a highborn lady, and they kind of awkwardly compliment each other, and instead of the lady bestowing a sword and a quest upon her knight it's the other way round, etc etc you know I love this shit lmao ANYWAY
so it's pretty clear Jaime and Brienne have both bases covered: the courtly and the sexual, and that they do, as the hosts observe in the episode, switch between the roles of the knight and the damsel. the whole point is that they gel perfectly: in falling in love they do not force the other into a contained role, but rather liberate the other from what was a contained role.
MEANWHILE.
...with the actual sexuality kind of displaced onto Cersei.
is the 'actual sexuality' displaced onto Cersei? or is it just that Cersei is the only person Jaime has had sex with so far? as we've established, Jaime and Brienne have a distinct physical chemistry, and we even get a subtle little comparison between this and that which Jaime has with Cersei here:
Her arm was all gooseflesh, clammy and chilled, but she was strong, and gentler than he would have thought. Gentler than Cersei, he thought [JAIME V, ASOS]
Cersei has been his only partner for all of his life, but that does not make her his perfect match in that respect.
moving on.
I wonder if what George is trying to do is make that romantic ideal impossible for Jaime, by splitting it into two people. And saying, you can either have… your traditionally beautiful woman, you know, who you’ve been obsessed with, and your partner, or you can be with a person who makes you feel like a true knight. But these are antithetical.
so PQ says on the one hand Jaime has Cersei, who is his passionate, beautiful, lifelong partner, and on the other there's Brienne, a chaste figure who makes him feel good about himself. and that these two things are antithetical, making the romantic ideal impossible for Jaime.
so. to start with, nowhere does ASOIAF state that Brienne can't be a passionate partner. she hasn't had the chance to be one yet, no, but this is, er, a story, things change and evolve, and we literally have evidence of passion between Jaime and Brienne on the page already.
second, Brienne is not beautiful, that's right! but that doesn't mean she falls short of a romantic ideal for Jaime??? I know I always bring up JB x Beauty and the Beast, but come on, they are literally based on a fairytale that says that love isn't about beauty, it's about the heart. and in any case, Jaime has been shown experiencing sexual attraction to women like Hildy and Pia (post-injury), who are not what society calls beautiful. he admires Cersei's beauty, sure, but we don't see anywhere that it is of the utmost importance to Jaime that his partner is beautiful. it's important to Cersei - but not Jaime.
third, PQ points out that Cersei's this lifelong obsession for Jaime, and surely that counts for something in balancing her against Brienne. well... no?? Jaime's obsession with Cersei has been based on the lies he tells himself about her, and the lies she's told him. Jaime has desperately wanted Cersei to be this benevolent figure that completes him, that he can love and protect as a true knight. she isn't, and he realises that now, and has unambiguously left her. of course he still thinks about her, it was a lifelong relationship, it was that thing he always thought of when he wanted comfort and to feel less alone, but that doesn't mean that he can't appreciate the lie in that, and the futility of his obsession.
so Brienne is not antithetical to what Cersei never was in the first place. in fact, Brienne is very much the kind of woman Jaime has wanted in Cersei (honest, loyal, loving), but simultaneously, yes, a person who inspires him, and who is just as capable of playing the role Jaime once assigned to himself. Jaime always believed his duty was to protect and comfort Cersei. with Brienne, he finds he can also be protected himself, and comforted himself. that's that whole damsel/knight switcheroo that NotACast were so taken with. that's the romantic ideal being, actually, perfectly possible for Jaime and Brienne both, it just... doesn't look as they thought it did.
ANYWAY. that's my thoughts on that. and for the record I do not think the podcast is bad or that the hosts are stupid and the last thing I want to do here is encourage any negativity towards them. I just thought that take was daft and wanted to take it apart with my bare hands lmao
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