#i went on a rant and don't know how to stop

[hey-i-am-trying]

ME RANTING ABOUT MISINFORMATION ABOUT BAGI AND WHAT NOT

A missing piece people don't realize about the workers' murder arc is that Bagi was not all that bothered by the workers' death at first, she was more worried about how Cucurucho would retaliate and also by the cannibalism, because yeah, cannibalism doesn't exactly scream mental health.

It was seeing the grief of the living workers that changed her profoundly, it filled her with guilt. And I cannot help but think of young Bagi who didn't have a body to bury, didn't have closure, and refused to even acknowledge the possibility that her brother was dead, being so moved by such an open sight of mourning.

Bagi ran herself stressed not knowing a way to help Cellbit AND stop the murders, she refused any solution that would harm him, she went after talking with people who were close with Cellbit and whom she also trusted to not turn information to the Feds. I am sick and tired to people saying "Bagi told random people about the murders". List of islanders Bagi actually told: Roier, Bad, Pac, and Mike. All who were in one way or another connected to enigmas themselves. People who she knew had more information about Cellbit past or that she thought deserved to know for their own safety.

Bagi never called Cellbit a monster or even insinuated he would hurt the eggs, I really don't know where this misinformation came from. In the separate scenes of Bagi and Bad confronting Cellbit they were they quite literally saying he was more than a murderer, and that he was being consumed by his history of violence

(Also, I get it that watching your blorbo drown in blood is fun and all. But like, did you watch Cellbit's story and believe he turned back into a murderer and being brought back to the violent cycle he was forced into is a good thing? Did watch him seeing his childhood room for the first time and asking himself what he did to deserve to be taken away from his family and made to kill people to be able to survive? Did you see that and then when he told Bagi he didn't care if he died again because he died enough time and did not get that Cellbit murdering people is also him losing grasp on the importance of life itself? Did you not get that this was not a developing arc for him? This was him at his fucking worst after having the best things in his life taken again, again and again. Murder was not enrichment for him, it was a poison that killed parts of him too)

Anyway. That is for now. I think. Just a lot of shit I needed to get out of my chest.

#qsmp #fandom neg #i guess #qsmp bagi #qsmp cellbit

[arttsuka]

2024 vs 2019-21

I really did design this a few months after I actually got into star trek for the first time. I don't know if the difference is as big but I feel much more comfortable with my style now. Rant under the cut.

Star trek was one of the first big fandoms I consciously started looking into. It had a special connection to me.

The first star trek thing I ever watched was the 2009 movie, although I didn't watch it in 2009 and I was far too young either way, I was too bored to read subtitles (English is not my native language). A few years passed and in 2017 I watched star trek beyond. I loved the characters but something was missing? Then I started digging into the fandom. I watched the other 2 aos movies, started looking up fanart. In 2018 I started watching tos for the first time. I never actually finished that watch, some episodes from seasons 1 and 2 and the majority of season 3 left without me touching them at all (I was watching on Netflix and like, I love(d) Spock so I usually just skipped episodes without him in them, don't judge me). In 2019, summer, I started watching the old movies (while watching the 4th one I has a very bad toothache but the movie made me feel better until I inevitably went to the dentist). I also didn't get to watch all the movies, the 5th half watched and the 6th not at all (but I do want to watch all 6 this year, let's see how that goes). Then the pandemic happened, I started rewatching my favorite episodes (the naked time, the devil in the darkness, amok time etc). I don't remember exactly when but I did watch some tas episodes too (don't remember much, only the vibes). Last year (2023) I did a full actual rewatch of tos.

If course I was reading fanfiction too at the time, the first big fanfic I've ever read was a star trek fic. I was looking at fanart and I wanted to draw too but the problem was, I couldn't figure out how to draw these characters. I was copying other styles hoping I'll find mine (it didn't work but it helped me improve I think). I have some of these early Spock drawings from 2019 but I don't know if they'll ever see the light of day. Making Spock as a pony was the only logical solution at the time. It was easy, I was familiar with mlp enough to make sense of it and also I love drawing animals. So this design was born. Over the years I just stopped drawing the gloss on his hair but the overall design didn't change.

If you couldn't guess I love drawing wings so I think this is where the most improvement lies. But I do think the anatomy is better as well.

I'm not reading all that, so let's hope I didn't make any mistakes while writing it (I'm not good at writing so there're definitely mistakes in here :| ).

#I hope this inspires people to keep trying and keep drawing/crafting/whatever because it's worth it #I actually have 2 'realistic' portrait pencil drawings of spock (as realistic as I could make them at least) from 2019 also #don't judge the old ones pls they're old. judge the newer #star trek #star trek tos #mlp #my little pony #spock #s'chn t'gai spock #spony #sponie #both are right #one is an inside joke the other is the 'correct' (but also the correct is whatever you want it to be) #fanart #art #traditional art #old vs new #star trek changed my brain chemistry fr #I don't really like one of the drawings I used for the 2024 picture but I couldn't find another one #(I technically could but I havent posted it yes and I didn't want to spoil 2 future posts)

[sleepanonymous]

Okay so. I have so many people to respond to and I promise I will, just not tonight. I wanted to give a quick update about the ritual below the cut (because I know some people like going in not knowing the setlist.) Again, typing this all on my phone so my apologies for heavy typos and any incoherence.

As a preface I just got back to my hotel, showered quickly, absolutely fucking sobbed in the shower for like two minutes, and I’m now eating uncle ben’s ready rice straight out of the bag because I don't have a fork or spoon. If that doesn’t scream hot mess idk what would.

First things first: the security/staff at Arizona Financial Theatre are all amazing. Literal fucking angels. Two of them hung out with us in line all day, letting us go inside to use the bathroom and refill water bottles and the guys at the barricade were so friendly and chatty and also handed out water. Literally everyone was so helpful and friendly and nice and they deserve all the good things in life.

Second: Empire State Bastard really wasn’t clicking with me until I saw them live. They’re an absolute vibe live plus the drummer and bassist are both babes. The band were constantly thanking us for showing up early and listening to them (tbh the venue was only half full until about 10 minutes before Sleep Token went on). Literally seemed like such humble and chill dudes.

Third!!! I almost don’t even know what to say about Sleep Token. There’s sooo much I could literally rant for hours but I also need to sleep so I can drive to Albuquerque in the morning. I recorded 5ish songs I think? Mostly the TPWBYT songs but I did get the summoning too. No idea if the footage is any good but we’ll see tomorrow. I made it a point not to have my phone out after finding out the setlist because there was no way in hell I was missing TNDNBTG live while on barricade. Maybe I should preface this next bit with I one hundred thousand present realize this sounds delusional of me, but everyone on the barricade had their phones out and Vessel fucking focused on me because of it. He was singing one of my favorite sleep token songs directly to me! There’s literally nowhere else he could have been looking! he was on the edge of the stage looking straight down at me and we were pointing at each other and I’m fucking dying reliving it because I was singing so horribly and cringy back at him. Like I’m so sorry vessel but my life was changing in that moment. I became a new woman the second you pointed at me.

I kept my phone away for the first several songs tbh and he kept coming back to stand in front of me but never made such heavy eye/mask contact (until Euclid). I actually almost feel like I disappointed him when I did pull my phone out to start recording because he practically avoided me after that. its actually why I decided not to record Euclid, though I knew it was coming and it was the song’s debut. AND IT FUCKING WORKED!! He came back around and was singing to me again, same stance, same obvious eye contact except this time I was literally Ugly Crying™️ at him. Tears were streaming, I had one hand holding onto the barricade for dear life, and the other clamped tightly around my mouth ugly crying. Even my buddies and the security were concerned that’s how bad it was.

In all honesty I can’t pretend that it wasn’t “scripted” like the band hadn’t planned every move on stage beforehand. They first and foremost are performers and Vessel literally sings to every girl on the barricade right in front of him. But it also felt so special and I feel so bad for breaking down like I did 😅🤣😭😫🫠

Okay I need to stop ranting, I’ve been up for 20 hours and this is most likely incoherent anyway. I love all of you and I hope everyone who’s able to get barricade this tour gets to experience the same thing I did🖤🖤🖤

#sleep token #teeth of god tour #sleepanon rant #<- fully delusional version

[eatabledogy]

So I'm developing a new favourite interest-

#dogy dialogue #this is of course regarding the mass reblog spree i went on for south park shit #yeah that happened hours ago and yeah i still memed it #basically i forgot how but me and my sib started talking about creek and then we watched the craig and tweek eps again #and i half jokingly said what if we watched the whole series together #they said fuck it why not #and so we are almost finished season one and i can feel sp starting to grasp me in a chokehold #always saw the ads for this show and always thought i'd despise it #now look at me #i can hardly even believe i'm starting to get into this shit #it's the best worst thing to happen to me #btw this reblog spree happened because my sib expressed surprise that i hadn't reblogged sp stuff #so blame plugnuts #only reason i didn't was because of judgement but fuck it this is my blog and i can reblog sp if i want #also i just didn't think to so- #anyway fandom content for this show is fucking amazing #you appreciate it more cause the style is really kinda simple #so to see more of the characters features brought to life in drawings is so so so good #mostly the hair hhh #i went on a rant and don't know how to stop #i guess to wrap this all up i've been watching and enjoying south park and will reblog content for it until i die #thank you for coming to my ted talk #hope you like the high quality edit i did for this #peace

[taegularities]

some men are textbook villains fr

#tw religion? #kinda need to rant.. kinda wanna explain what's going on #some ppl are part of humanity but don't know how to be humane... like the guy i started talking to almost 2 weeks ago #liked him a lot bc he was funny sickeningly sweet mature and understanding.. until he was not #tl dr version is that we somehow drifted to the topic religion and i told him im not too religious and don't believe in superstition much #i was extremely respectful and even when he said that he does believe a lot i was like 'thats cool!! different people believe in different #things!!' and at first it was a normal convo until man went all psycho on me (after one damn week!!!) and started talking about how #id have to be religious in a relationship with him.. my dude i barely know your fav food can we not talk about relationships yet #but he says he doesn't even need a woman who cooks/cleans just someone who believes.. n im like i get it but i can't change myself like that #and then guy moves to marriage and is all 'well my entire family is religious' n my mom and sister (who's 16) would be putting pressure on #you n force you to pray etc.. and I'm like???? who can force anyone to a thing like that are u kidding #things escalate and my absolute STUPID ass tells him about my deepest fkn trauma to explain what made me abandon religion bc #life just never got better and this trauma remained for yrs... and he gets so angry that he says he wants to stop talking to me just to spam #me all day next day.. he'd keep messaging me switching between 'i still want you we shouldn't throw this away i have feelings for you' #AFTER A WEEEEEEKKKK!!! and then goes back to 'i wasted my time with you you were so unnecessary im in a bad mood bc of you' #even said 'you'll never find a guy with a trauma and mindset like this. i will find a religious girl but no one will love you like that' #and the worst thing is that he told his friends and mom about the trauma i had just to spite me.. note that he promised to never tell anyone #(and then still asked for forgiveness and for me to rethink whether we want to end this after telling me 473626x he wanted to end it) #(nothing even ever started you bitchass) #also note that his mom knows my mom n basically most of my relatives.. so i was here trembling for days fearing they'd get to know about it #mom somehow convinced her to not tell anyone bc it's important to me and very very fucking personal.. #but he harassed me all day - i wouldn't answer and he'd send 55 messages.. multiple missed calls like dude i got so fkn scared #my heart jumped whenever he texted he was so fkn aggressive and SO MEAN #'you just needed to adjust and we would've been okay' 'tell me are u gonna fkn be religious or not????' 'you ruined everything' kinda mean #i just :') it was the worst time and i don't think i've ever seen someone degrade me so much or make me feel this defective #but.. it's finally over. his mom called my mom and mine was like pls teach him some manners.. n since i couldn't and wouldn't text him back #and literally avoided whatsapp bc of him she ended it all for me and now it's hopefully done forever #anyway i saw jks gcf performance yday n him singing still with you put a genuine smile on my face.. ill stick to THAT boyfriend honestly lol #def gonna delete later #but ty for reading if u did <3

[therealtrashpanda]

So.. I gave derision another chance.

And... I still hate it so much.

#miraculous ladybug #ml derision #derision spoilers #and... they ruined one of my favorite characters #Kim went through his whole character arc. and they erased it all in a single episode #making him some kinda douche on a podcast #I hate this episode so much. I don't even consider it canon in my head #but I know there is always gonna be people now that think of how awful Kim is. because of this episode #ugh it's like they forgot the events of Dark Cupid and Syren completely #ml writers salt #and Marinette #they always played her mannerisms around her crush as a joke #but now they take that back #they change it into a trauma response #sure when they were clearly jokes i didn't find them funny. but now for anyone who did can't anymore because it's now linked to past trauma #chloe even.. i feel like all that happens anymore is demonizing as much as possible to spite her fans #sure she was never perfect and she wasn't great but after season 3it just doesn't stop #sorry for the rant #I'll cut it off now

[damiemontclair]

*sigh* once more having to explain to people that I didn't watch disney or ghibli as a kid, that we had restricted amounts of tv times and usually watched recorded movies with my dad and thus I grew up on the german dub of bud spencer and terence hill movies until we were old enough for the saturday evening crime show (ncis, also, german dub, dinner had to be finished by 20:15) which then became a weekly ritual for like. 2 or 3 years.

#Listen not everyone watched disney or ghibli or cartoons. #We barely watched any tv at all until we were teens #Tv was a holiday special for when we went to my grandparents and only 2h a day while they napped #So we usually just got a bunch of cartoons with 0 context all all. #Random eps of yugioh and pokemon and another show I don't remember the name of #The first movie I remember watching and enjoying as a kid is star wars. I was obsessed. I was 6. #Anyway point is. Stop saying 'everyone has seen it'. It is very ostracising. #No. Not everyone has seen it. Whether that is bc of a lack of interest or a lack of availability doesn't matter. #Do yall have any idea how often I was excluded during middle and high school #Because I wasn't watching as much tv/the same tv as everyone else? #I was watching charmed while everyone else was going on about some stupid reality tv or those singing contests or gntm #And whatever movie was in now. #I got so much hate for enjoying queen or non-german bands and singers. #Not everyone has the same experiences. Please stop assuming. #Sorry for the rant #I kinda went off there... Just having another discussion about this with some friends and its like. #I know you're joking when you say you're disappointed I haven't seen these ghibli movies. No not even howls. #But it hit a sore spot. #damie talks

[paperlovesadness]

Tuned into the Grammy's for a bit & it was honestly the reminder I needed on why I don't tune into these things.

Funny thing is that there's legit info out in the world on how the Oscar's work & how it has nothing to to with the movies & everything to do with the money, branding & merchandise (sent over to the members of the academy who usually do not watch the movies at all & are often v open about it 🙃) & we still somehow as a society treat it as some sort of indicator.

Haven't looked into the inner Grammy's workings too close but it's probably a twin situation.

Even 'fair' awards would be controversial in most categories -with art being so subjective. But man oh man why would we ever trust a bunch of members of an American organization made up of super-privileged & out-of-touch folks to - of all people - tell us what music is actually "the best" 🫠

#oh and about AM in particular - #it's silly in the first place how you've got this category that manages to pit the lyrical & musical genius of Mirrorball against songs #that go like 'i went to school and I got a degree/all my frienda call it the big D' over and over in one rhythm #and like! I really don't want to shame any artists! because there's room for all of the types of art #but it's crazy that these two are suddenly put into competition against each other in any category at all. They've got nothing in common #and it looks pretty silly to me when you compare the two in any way & end up saying that the latter won...in any way #I'm sorry! it's strange. maybe im contradicting myself. but ANYWAY #most imporant thing to take out of all this: this doesn't mean shit #another thing to just remember overall: the Monkeys have always been smart guys open about the fact they know that this doesn't mean shit #Peace Out! ✌️ #fuck the system and don't let the american CEOs get you down 🙃 #(yes that one may be personal) #(even though I'm very much from Europe. US has very big range & lots of control over the world) #(which is also why we should be as defiant about it as possible and not just let them so easily have that monopoly over pop-culture) #(alright bye / I should stop ranting in tags in the middle of the night; truly) #shouting into the tumblr void #Grammy's #Grammy Arctic Monkeys

[omarfor-orchestra]

I'm so mad I can't sleep

#i want it to be friday already #so i can watch my silly little raiplay show in the morning and my silly little rai1 gabba show in the night #instead of thinking about how these people are supposedly parenting and what the hell do i have to do with it #just remembered i asked my sister to go to naples together when i was planning it and she went 'and what leave the child to my husband?' #'i already asked him to keep the child when we go to the concert' oh what a big sacrifice! three hours with HIS kid!! oh!!!!!! #fucking hell #my mother asked me to let the child sleep with me hell no #you people decided to keep him here when my sister worked night shift for whatever reason #now you deal with it #i fucking wish he would go back to therapy because i think his therapist would tell him to wake the fuck up #but he doesn't! because he's healed! then he can keep the kid for one night even if the day after he has to work. hope this helps. #and they don't understand that all of this disfuncional situation will fall on the kid who's already experiencing consequences #but keep on saying uwu but he works aaalll dayy!!!! as if my sister or my mother didn't #honestly can't take this anymore #and since I don't know how to deal with these feelings I'll simply stop eating bc apparently that's all my body knows to do #not even doing it on purpose #rant

[fratboykate]

its been a month 😫 i miss our frat boy and her science wife come back papi youre the person who fed us the yummiest bishova content and you did it like every day please come back ill even apologize for the assholes who did whatever it is they did

Thank the people who tried to be fucking edgelords for no more CFAU, KYAU, KYFBAU or KYPAU content. I'm still FUCKING PISSED and I don't know that I'll ever stop being angry about all of this. Those are all gone until I stop being mad. *IF* I ever stop being mad. You guys talked yourselves out of everything. All you had to do was not be insanely disrespectful to me/the people I care about AND not make me look psychotic even after I fucking told you to stay out of it. Like...I very clearly asked you to butt out of my business because you had already caused enough damage and some of you fucking doubled down and made me look fucking crazy. I'm not rewarding that shit with all the free labor those stories took on almost a daily basis. You don't deserve any more of my time and effort.

#rants #the only reason I even come on here anymore is because I talk to people on the DMs #if it weren't for that I probably would've even deleted the app #you don't deserve me giving you anything else #no ao3 updates no posting stories here NOTHING #done with this bullshit you guys took it too fucking far #if you guys hadnt fucking made me look BATSHIT CRAZY after that all went down maybe I wouldn't be angry anymore #but I fucking ask you to stop interfering with my life and you fuckers go and find this person somewhere else #and send them anonymous messages that could be interpreted as me sending them #when I literally didn't even know their usernames on any other platform #way to make me look like a fucking stalker #i fucking told you to leave it alone I told you #i dont know how much clearer I could've been #and yet you guys kept on doing shit that I never asked you to do #and worse...made it look like it was me because who the fuck else would be messaging this person #i have told you TIME AND AGAIN that you don't fucking know shit about what's going on #you had no idea what I had already done or was going to do to address the situation #and because you went out of your way to be fucking insane even after I told you not to you fucking derailed all of it #not to mention you had NO IDEA who I was talking about and you were out there messaging people without having full knowledge of who it was #what if it had not been that person? #and even if it were I TOLD YOU I HAD NO OTHER WAY OF CONTACTING THEM #and you fucking stalked them and went to message them on another platform #do you know how that makes me look??? #who is the only person that could be blamed for talking about this??? ME and it #but no...you guys don't have functioning brains and go comment on their shit and anonymously to boot #at least do it with your whole chest and put your username on it so you don't make me look insane #but you guys had to cause more damage to the whole situation #I'm so fucking pissed I fucking told you to leave it fuck this dude #anonymous #answers

[ennobaka]

Hearing about rich people is actually my villain origin story

#one of my (kinda distant) uncle is like. a retired politician/government official #and now he owns at least 3 apartments in this fuckass expensive city that we live in #and like. government officials' salaries are nothing but they're rich bc of bribery and probably embezzlement #and my mother loves loves loves to tell my brother to come brown-nosing around him hoping for crumbs #even though the dude made clear that he wouldn't do that bc my brother apparently didn't do it enough or to his liking #(weirdly enough she never told me to do that more than once after i flat out rejected. and also i do not talk to her) #anyway my brother took his family to visit him last night. he did call ahead but he did it last week #and the uncle and his wife weren't home. only his daughter in law and grandson were home #he and his wife and his son were in another apartment in the city #and my sister in law was lamenting today about how my brother wasn't specific enough about the time that they would go visit #and like. okay sure social skills or whatever but at this point i'm just like. man just stop going #why do you care about that dude anyway #side note this guy is my mother's cousin and I don't even know how close they are but #mother this guy sucks stop making us suck up to him jfc #anyway idk how this went from ranting about politics to ranting about family politics but #*sighs* #i need to get out of this country for real pls don't let me fail the vibe check

[kqluckity]

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#i have never felt like wanting to go back home this bad in the now 4 years I've been at uni #NEVER #and now I can't stop crying because i don't want to be here i don't know what i want to do i just hate it here so much I can't fucking breat #breathe #it's just so. so. so fucking much I don't want to do this anymore but idk how to tell my mom that #because she's doing so much to help me get this fucking degree and i feel like a failure #and i can't even say oh maybe i feel like this because i didn't sleep last night because. i did. and i slept well too. so i really don't kno #know #i just. idk. especially because yeah sure my parents put aome pressure on me but not rhat much? and i know they do it because they want me t #to be economically independent so i can do what i want but. idk #most of this pressure i feel literally comes from myself and the guilt i feel for feeling like a burden #i don't want to go back to my hometown but at the same time i feel like if i went back i could be more useful for my family? idk #okay bye this rant is over I'll go take a cold shower maybe I'll calm down #personal

[rabbitoid]

Reading about people debating dress codes is so sweet bitter to me.

Haha, imagine not being forced to wear a shirt that's uncomfortable for literally everyone or worry about your hair length.

It's like, ' Oh yeah these are such valid points ' then my sis told me a girl got in trouble for tying her braid too high. Yep.

And some people are already calling this generation nitpicking.

I hate my country's government school uniform with a raging burning passion it's practically a trigger.

#apparently the teachers like joking about sizes and #the more i think about this the more i want to cry #Thailand as a country has more pressing problems and it would be hard to get rid of uniforms #since there's an industry built around it #AND a lot of our people has a crab bucket mindset #but no a day pass where i don't want to physically fist fight the uniform #Actually no the entire educational system #i haven't even got into how they failed to teach English #sis joked about not wanting to eat much on a school day #cause we talked about the skirt shape and how it literally will suffocate most if not all people #and it got me thinking #there's probably a teenager struggling so hard with their body image right now #idk it's a depressing and terrifying thought #no wonder i broke down in highschool ya know? #trigger me at your own risk everytime i went off i forced myself to stop #if you saw me rant trust me that's not even half of it

[sneak-a-cat]

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#ignore this i will be ranting in the tags :) #for like the past year or so i have been really struggling with pms stuff and only once have i gone onto the pill to try and stave it off #needless to say that went utterly shit and for about a month i was a sad hormonal mess properly barely able to get out of bed stuff #and i've been told to try a new one now #which is fucking scary because i didn't like who i was when i was on the last one and i know it changes my mood #on top of all that it was right when my exams were so i was really fucking scared #i tried to talk about this with my mum but she fucking sucked at emotional support so that was great #and now i'm on it and its not made me sad so much as affected me in weird ways #worst part is that since i'm in it rn i can't properly tell whats different about me #i dont like it #i hate being on drugs that change my mood #i don't feel like myself #i know somethign has changed and dont like it i dont i want it to stop #but i cant ebcause once your on the fucking pill you only stop at the end of the month #and my mum would be fucking dissapointed as shit in me for stopping #how the fuck do i tell her "hey yknow how you have been trying to look for a sollution to my crap pms stuff? #yeah well i want you to fuckingg stop trying to get me on different drugs that fuck with my hormones i don't fucking like those #turns out i am massively freaked out when i can't tell if i am not acting like myself due to stress or due to mystery fucking drug #oen time i fucking tried to talk to her all she said was “this worked one me and uh actually i was way worse than you so take them” #fucking wonderful #bloody so glad it worked for you do you not understand how bleedin terrifying this is to me? #i would rather have unpredictable periods where i am a proper dick while on them than not know who i am anymore #but fuck it all she doesn't seem to fucking get that #worst thing abotu this is its making me wonder how i would react to adhd meds that i've been trying to get for years #i have been aware that some people don't like themselves on them #but god fuck it i just want some of my brain to function well #please #christ sorry obviously this is public and you can read what you want #but uh if your reading this dont worry i just find it helps to write and post it

[yrieso]

tonight i am thinking about how it really pisses me off when i tell people my dads deaf and a lot of people's immediate response is "im sorry" like bitch i said he's deaf not DEAD why do you feel the need to say im sorry. like really, why do you think you should apologize for that? huh?

#it's just. hmmm urg. it's infuriating!!!! #next time someone says that im gonna say ''and im sorry yours is brunette. you see hoe stupid that sounds? that's how stop YOU sound rn'' #like idk it might be different if he went deaf later in life but my dad went deaf when he was 4 months old so it's not like #i've had the experience of having a hearing dad and suddenly i don't??? it's literally been my whole life AND his whole life too #im too tired to really articulated my thoughts on this but i feel like i shouldn't really have to explain #why it's so stupid and frustrating to me when you tell me you're sorry my dad is deaf right after learning that #my dad being deaf has had almost 0 negative impact on my life and it's actually given me a lot of cool things #like i wouldn't have learned sign language if he were hearing!! do u know how cool it is to #know a whole other LANGUAGE with your parents and how good it feels to flex that you know more than #your siblings bc they only know the basics of asl #because it feels SO GOOD to flex that #i get to watch tv with my dad at loud volumes that my friends dont get in their house #i learned to read earlier because i was always used to reading captions on the tv and im a quick reader too #when YOU flick the lights on and off your dad would be annoyed. MINE knows im trying to get his attention and he can't hear me #if i don't want to see what he's saying i just take my glasses off. problem solved. #idk i have a lot of thoughts about this but i've ranted and rambled enough in the tags #yriesodottumblrdotcom

[evasive-anon]

Jason Attacking Tim at Titans Tower

Fanon vs Canon

We've all seen the versions in fanfiction but I'm not so sure everyone's seen the original so if you're one of those batfam fans who doesn't want to read the comics (regardless of reasons) but you are curious about how it actually went this is for you.

What I'm addressing:

What does Jason actually say to Tim during the attack?

Did Jason drug all the other Titans?

Did Jason really wear a Robin costume?

Did Jason slit Tim's throat or call him replacement?

Did Jason actually break Tim's bo staff?

Was Tim crying or scared?

Did Jason write a message on the wall in Tim's blood?

Did Jason's eyes glow green?/Did he follow pit rage mechanics?

Panels and details below. This is a LONG one.

What did Jason actually say to Tim during the attack?

Dialogue in fanfiction during the Titans Tower attack varies based on what kind of fic you're reading but usually its either 'time to clip Replacement's wings' if its staying a beatdown whump 'or oh no precious lil bby why is no one watching you' if its an accidental child acquisition. Not judging either option, but this ain't about them its about the real shit.

Look at these opening lines:

Hey, Tim. I was here first.You're the Red Hood. You've been cleaning up Gotham the easy way. Easy? What do you know about easy, Tim? You had a father that looked after you. You went to a private school, right? You slept in a bed. I slept on the streets, I lived in the alleyways in Gotham. Trying to survive. Until Bruce took me in. I trained as hard as I could. I did whatever he asked. . . at least at first. But it didn't matter. They said I wasn't tough enough to be robin. But today, they say you are. Show me, Tim. Show me what you have that I didn't.

Jason really puts himself out there in all of his dialogue in this encounter, the struggle of having to fight for anything and everything he got in life, even the things that came to everyone else for free, and then being told he wasn't even good enough for the things he fought for.

There's a trope in fanfics that if Jason knew Tim stalked Batman and forced his way into being Robin that it would change how Jason felt about the situation but that's even addressed in this comic:

You were a kid, worried about how Batman was spiraling down into darkness. You spent weeks tracking the dark knight. Solving a mystery no one else could. You discovered who he was behind that mask. Millionaire Bruce Wayne. You were so pleased with yourself, I'm sure that you forgot who you were really dealing with. I know Bruce Wayne. And let me tell you, Tim if someone was trying to find out who Batman really was. If someone was stalking him for weeks. He'd know about it. You can't be that good. I am. He let you find him. And I bet he said the same thing to you as he did to me, didn't he? That you had a talent to make a difference in Gotham. That he needed someone he could trust in war on crime. That you were one of a kind. The light to his darkness. Robin, the Boy Wonder.

Tim saying 'I am' is really such a moment that doesn't come through in text because he is right that he really did do that but I also completely understand why Jason wouldn't believe it.

TBH my favorite part is how done Tim honestly sounds with Jason thoughout all his trauma dumping. Like imagine a grown man who used to work the same part time job as you breaking into your house, dressing up in your work uniform, ranting about how much the job ruined his life while he beats your ass??? God, and he probably had to write a fucking report about it after. RIP Timmy.

What do you want? Do you want to be Robin again? Is that it? You... want to take it away from me? Why in the hell would I ever want that? Don't you get it? When I died no one cared! No one remembered me. Are you completely insane? No one could forget you. I've spent my entire career wearing this mask under your shadow. I had to convince Batman to let me try this. All because he'll never stop blaming himself for what happened to you. You ask me, that's the only reason he hasn't taken you down. He's holding back. But me? No freakin' way. That's the Robin I wanted to see. Still. You do realize the whole idea of training a teenager to fight against something he'll never eradicate is a mistake. It didn't even surprise anyone when I died. When I failed. I failed-- but I'm still beating you. Do you think you're that good now?! Do you really, Tim? Yes.

Tim bashing Jason across the face as he says 'no freakin' way'? *chefs kiss*

Jason drugging the other Titans to knock them out?

Little bit true, Kory was actually just already away from the tower and BB and Cyborg were about to bounce because of the drama going on with Donna's return but Jason like super tazes them and then drugs Raven who he thought already went through enough shit without him knocking her out violently.

Note: Jason says in the text here that he never rolled with Cyborg or BB but like he actually did in some comics so?? The continuity is lie I guess idk.

Did he show up in Red Hood gear or a Robin costume?

Both tbh but he spent most of the time in the Robin costume but bro actually made a stripper rip away version of his Red Hood gear so he could dramatically reveal the Robin costume underneath. I can't believe no one ever includes that in their fics its so fucking funny.

Does he call Tim 'replacement' or slit his throat?

No, this came from a Batman comic with Hush not Teen Titans. That incident takes place in a graveyard not Titans Tower and he calls Tim pretender not replacement.

Does Jason break Tim's staff?

Tragically, no. The bo staff snap would have been iconic. Instead he just takes Tim's staff and beats Tim up with it and breaks stuff. BUT!! He uses it to bust a statue in the TITANS MEMORIAL ROOM which is a place in Titans Tower just for having statues of dead previous titans and Jason is rightfully pissed he didn't get one. Like Tim is correct in saying no one forgot him still but like I would be hurt too if all my friends made cool statues of friends that died and then just left my zombie ass out, like wtf.

Note: I am seriously losing my shit that I have never seen someone bring up the memorial room in a fanfic. That is so much angst material. 😭

Tim crying/ being scared?

Hell no. He's a fucking Robin you know he's being a sassy boy the whole time, even towards the end when he's about done he's still saying he's her and I love Tim for that.

Note: There are a few different times where Tim does a flippy Robin move and then Jason just fucking copies it like flexing that he can do it too, and its just so petty and stupid he's trying so hard to be better than an actual child. 💀I get why in the context of the situation but its still so ridiculous.

Message on the wall in Tim's blood?

TBH I really don't know for sure on this one?? Like its implied that he did but Tim isn't bleeding all that much throughout this beatdown and like we don't see Jason do it just the Titans reacting to seeing it after. It could be Tim's blood, it could be red paint, and it could even be that Jason packed an actual bucket of blood to bring with him to write a message with after he finished. TBH the world is your oyster on this one.

Note: If anyone can find another comic where this event was brought up where they actually clarify it was Tim's blood hmu and I'll update this but I couldn't find any.

Pit rage/ glowing green eyes?

Fanon only at this point in the comics. Jason is seems to be himself and even thinks Tim and his friends are pretty cool at the end, and he's just like reflecting on if he had good friends if he would have turned out better as he leaves.

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