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acearchivist359 · 4 months

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you know that feeling of wishing you could go back in time and read your favourite book again for the first time? watching pjo tv feels like being able to do that

like i’ll never be 11 years old reading percy jackson for the first time again but i think this is the closest feeling i’ll ever get to that like i feel like 11 year old me got to watch that and i’m so happy for her and that’s a feeling that i am so grateful for right now

#whatever happens in this show i am so happy to have this #i have so much faith in this adaptation #i always have #but especially after watching that #like you can tell rick was involved in this #and you can tell the people making it truly care about the books #the attention to detail is insane #even in the places where it’s not 100% accurate it still FEELS the way the books do #and that’s what’s important #the adaptation of all time i’m calling it #percy jackson #pjo tv show #percy jackson and the olympians

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tangents-within-tangents · 9 months

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Just some things I think deserve a super accurate movie/show adaption in a beautiful 2D animation style:

The How to Train Your Dragon series

Gregor the Overlander

Artemis Fowl

The Adventure Zone

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Frankenstein or the Modern Prometheus

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (fr so much was left out of the 1939 film!)

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass

The actual Little Mermaid story (there are a ton of adaptations I haven't seen yet so maybe it exists somewhere but we all know Disney’s didn’t even come close)

#the entire series for those that have one if that wasn't clear #some of these need to be done #some just need to be done RIGHT #like fr why is it so hard for adaptations to just be faithful to the source material? It's not rocket science #also why did hunger games get so much love but no one read Gregor the Overlander?#the original little mermaid may be sad as heck but it is also beautiful #I admittedly only read the first few books in some of these series' but still #like did you know there's 14 oz books?#okay imma tag everything now #how to train your dragon #httyd books #gregor the overlander #the underland chronicles #artemis fowl #the adventure zone #taz #the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy #hgttg #frankenstein #frankenstein the modern prometheus #the wizard of oz #alice's adventures in wonderland #the little mermaid #old niche fandoms #adaptation #animation #hans christian andersen #lewis carroll #suzanne collins #cressida cowell

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queenoftheimps · 5 months

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It's very funny to stumble across old social media posts from when Interview with the Vampire initially announced Assad Zaman being cast as Rashid, and it is very very funny how it was full of people griping about "UuuuuUUUuuUUUUUuuugh why do we have people being cast as new characters and WHERE IS ARMAND"

#interview with the vampire #iwtv #assad zaman #armand #look i love the books so much too and have loved them since high school #but the lack of faith in the possibilities of adaptation was STRONG before the show came out #i STILL have a friend arguing that Claudia should still be 5 years old in spite of child labor laws

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snakegentleman · 1 year

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I think it’s kind of silly to insist that Trigun Stampede is bad when I and many people I know/ know of have gotten into Trigun because of it. It obviously stands on its own if plenty of people are watching it without knowing the source material and after reading the manga, Orange is clearly pulling from the source material heavily even if it is different. So many people are caught up in comparing it to the manga/98 anime that they can’t just enjoy it for what it is: a good show. Tristamp isn’t trying to be a recreation of the original, so stop judging it like it is.

#also Orange was so good at adapting hnk #I have faith they will stick the landing with Stampede even if it is different than the manga #trigun stampede #trigun #I wouldn’t have read/watched the original if not for stampede and I think that’s a win in of itself #the manga will always be there #be happy that we get to revisit this universe because that’s the real win here #also the animation slaps #this also isn’t to say you can’t be critical of Stampede I just think a lot of the main criticism I see is very much based on comparing it

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kindaorangey · 1 year

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so much of the criticism of shadow and bone boils down to the fact that six of crows was never supposed to take place alongside it. why is X plotline changed so it happens faster or Y character not explored in a great a depth as they should be? because they're working it around the main plot of an entirely different book series. it basically comes down to the fact that the meshing of the two stories is just fundamentally a bit of a bad writing decision because it inevitably leaves so much behind.

that being said, the writers do still understand the characters. there is always hope that the bits that weren't explored this season will be explored later.

#thunder rambles #sab #sab s2 spoilers #shadow and bone #and honestly this is why so much of the crit falls on deaf ears for me. like the writers just built a bad story box for themselves #and theyre pretty much doing the best they can from within the confines of that box. which they built for themselves.#so idk #i sorta have faith that SO LONG AS IT DOESNT GET CANCELLED theyll be able to develop certain aspects of the story and characters #more #later #adaptations are adaptations yo. shits gonna change #although i am pretty irritated with how they kinda botched kanej.

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dearmrsawyer · 9 months

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Hi! I’ve seen you post about shadow and bone and I’m almost finished with the first season of the show and I love it. I was just wondering if you read the books and if you’d recommend them? I do love that I don’t know any of the source material so I can enjoy it for what it is but I’m also curious as to how close the show is to the books so far and how in depth the world building that sometimes gets left out of show adaptions goes

Hello!! ah i'm always very interested to hear from people who are discovering the show without having read the books yet! i feel like you're such a crucial part of the audience :)

I have indeed read the books, i read the six of crows books years before the show but i didn't read the SAB books until just before i watched the show, to 'study up' lol. i would recommend them! they are very firmly a classic YA series so they have typical elements of the genre for better or worse, but if you like YA as i do i imagine you will enjoy them. I think my favourite thing about them was actually the world building, but the story itself was also quite engaging. I won't say how close the adaptation is to the books so you can discover for yourself!

I'm not sure if you're also asking about the six of crows books as well, but i would WHOLEHEARTEDLY recommend them. They are.... unfathomably good, i could spend the rest of the day listing why. They're also very different from the SAB books so think they are worth giving a go regardless of how you end up finding the SAB books!

#also when i read sab years after reading soc i was like 'now im not sure i EVER understood all the grisha stuff they talked about in soc'#because this all sounds like brand new information to me 😂#if i may be so bold as to say i prefer the sab content of the show to the sab content of the books #BUT i think i love the soc content from the show and books in equal measure #just for what we've seen so far in the show and how much faith i have in them adapting all the elements of soc #id be super interested to know how you end up finding either series if you do decide to read!!#asks #choreo-mania

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ritsukageyamas · 1 year

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god it is always going to drive me nuts that the moriarty the patriot anime skipped so much stuff and then gave it an ending in which moran isn't missing, MI6 was literally just formed with louis as its leader (plus moneypenny never existed and neither does moran's whole backstory), and sherlock and william somehow didn't stay together after the fall and sherlock had to go to freaking switzerland to find him, so it's like how would they ever continue to adapt the story of the manga even if they wanted to 😭

i watched the anime first, and knew about a number of things that were missing because i'd seen screenshots of them online in the past: mainly the conversation between sherlock and bonde in chapter 19 where he talked about his struggle to make the criminal justice system more equal, and literally all of chapter 31. but there is so so much else i didn't know about, so many entire chapters and important details and huge sections of other chapters!!! i ended up loving the anime but still feeling as though pretty much none of the major characters and relationships got as much development as they needed and that it was overall a bit rushed... and then i read the manga and felt so much better about how fleshed out literally everything was in comparison to the anime.

like. my dad is an anime fan and a sherlock holmes fan so i recommended the series to him, and have been explaining manga details to him that i felt were especially important. but i honestly just might ask him to read the manga if he likes the anime enough, even though he's not normally a manga reader. because during the whitechapel arc, when sherlock refuses to investigate the jack the ripper case and never elaborates on why... he thought sherlock was being an asshole who didn't care about the victims! sherlock holmes, who's supposed to care just as much about equality and justice for the oppressed as william does! but it's understandable because that's how the anime makes it look by cutting out his explanation and statement that he is in fact going to investigate! and i'm worried he's going to think sherlock saving william is rushed as well unless i make him read chapter 31 before he finishes. gahhhh why did this anime not just get an additional season instead of speedrunning to the final problem as fast as they could??

#also why did they cut out parts of liam's letter 😭#the 'i wanted to throw everything aside to keep solving mysteries with you'#the 'it was strange to have such feelings toward a detective like you'#the 'i have no doubts we would be able to take one another's hand'#which i feel like is SO IMPORTANT because sherlock is specifically pleading for liam to take his hand later #and why did they not let liam smile right there like in the manga #and whyyyyy why why did they cut sherlock's 'finally--i've caught you now'#homophobia i say #SORRY i'm in a mood lmao #this series pretty much instantly became a fave of mine and i fucking hate when my faves don't get relatively manga faithful adaptations #moriarty the patriot #feels embarrassing to main tag this but it's for my blog organization

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shinidamachu · 1 year

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I also noticed in my reread of the manga that the anime made Kikyo seem more powerful. In the manga Inuyasha easily parried Kikyo’s attack when she was first resurrected and chose to throw aside the sword to reason with her, and even got ready to strike her down and cracked his knuckles in order to bring Kagome back. In the anime he was easily overwhelmed by Kikyo and was only saved by Kagome waking up. I’m seeing Sunrise’s bias 🙄

And there's nothing wrong with making Kikyo seem more powerful. Inuyasha was constantly getting upgrades for Tessaiga without us as much as batting an eye over it.

The difference is that we were there when he found and got Tessaiga. We were there to see him struggle to master it. We were there for each and every single breakthrough. We know the how and we know the why.

Kikyo's power-ups, on the other hand, seem to come out of thin air most of the time. I'm sure she must have worked for it, but it wasn't shown, so there's a bit of a disconect between her journey getting there and the audience, which makes her achievements turn out to be not as satisfying as they could have been.

It's like, we know what the stabilished powers of a pristess are and so we think we know what Kikyo's powers are limited to, but then she does something new that doesn't fit that criteria and our only explanation is that she was the most powerful priestess of her time. Which makes sense, but also tells us that it's not important how she came to be so powerful, only that she is.

So why should we care when she uses a new trick? It's probably something she has known how to do for a while, anyway. We weren't rooting for her to get it right. We weren't anticipating it. We just roll with it.

The problem is that, in order to make Kikyo seem more powerful, Sunrise often gave her scenes where Kagome was originally the one kicking ass and taking names. And that's what I have issues with. Take this scene for instance:

Kikyo is the kind of character who doesn't do anything without a reason, so why would she interfere? She doesn't really knows Koga. She has probably no idea of his connection to Inuyasha — and even if she had, I don't peg her for comeone who'd care, considering how she treated Kagome most of the time. Koga is a demon with two jewel shards. Why help him out instead of taking them from him herself or waiting Naraku's incarnation finish the job to sweep in and do it? Because in the manga, Kagome is the one who saves Koga:

Which makes infinitely more sense and proves that there was no actual reason behind this "creative" change other than making Kikyo look cooler. The entirety of Sunrise's adaptation is full of these little shenanigans. Do you want to see a practical example of how this affects the general perception of the audience regarding the characters?

Here's Kagome diligently destroying a Naraku puppet to save an unconscious Kikyo. She actively uses the bow and arrow she didn't know how to shoot in the beginning of her journey to save someone she judges to be her love rival. And she suceeds without overthinking it or breaking a sweat.

But Sunrise thought it would be better to just do this instead:

The result? People naturally praise Kikyo for being the biggest girl boss in Inuyasha for stuff that was originally done by Kagome:

Don't get me wrong, it's great that people will appreciate Kikyo — this was exactly what Sunrise was going for, anyway — but it rubs me the wrong way that it came with the price of Kagome getting constantly criticized for being a "damsel in distress" who never does anything.

When your adaptation changes the story so much that people wrongfully perceives your female lead as useless despite the many, many scenes you still animated of her saving the day — and specifically saving the life of her supposed rival, who they judge to be much stronger and independent than her — that's when you know you fucked up.

And the worst part is that people are either blissfully unaware of this irony — because they haven't read the manga — or straight up dishonest about it.

The funny thing is: Kikyo didn't need any of that. What Sunrise did was the equivalent of taking original scenes of her being kind or compassionate and giving it to Kagome instead. It wasn't necessary. Kikyo was stabilished as a powerful woman from her very first appearance:

Kagome was the one who needed to prove herself in battle because she was the 15 year modern girl who was tossed untrained in the middle of a feudal era "life or death" situation. She was the one I wanted to see exploring and using her spiritual powers, because that's what her character needed to grow.

What Kikyo needed was humanization, glimpses of the ordinary woman she has always wanted to be. Empowerment is important, but it's also multifaceted and it falls flat when it focuses on power for the sake of power.

I'd gladly exchange any of those changes for scenes of Kikyo coping with taking a human life or using women's souls to stay on the world of the living. Scenes of Kikyo realizing she has become the very thing she used to fight against and how seeking for revenge affected the people she loves.

Scenes of Kikyo regretting decisions she can't take back, scenes of Kikyo bonding with Kaede both before and after her death, scenes of Kikyo acknowledging the part she played on the way her relationship with Inuyasha ended and apologizing for the hell she put him through over it.

That's how you make her character relatable and empathetic. That's how you highlight her complexities and makes her interesting. Kikyo being pretty while shooting arrows is absolutely stunning on screen, but it does little to create a truly emotional attachment to her character, at least for me.

As for the particular scene you brought up, Inuyasha was, in fact, easily overwhelmed by Kikyo in the anime. When she first attacks him, he just... lets her.

While in the manga, Inuyasha is quick to dodge it.

He does try to defend himself in the anime. However, Kikyo's arrow manages to stop Tessaiga's transormation and almost hits his heart.

None of which happens in the anime, where Inuyasha not only defends himself but also actively pushes back.

Sure, Kikyo still succeeds in zapping the hell out of him, but only because Inuyasha threw Tessaiga aside to reason with her, like you pointed out. When that didn't work, he cracked his knuckles in order to strike her down, before realizing he couldn't do it and then Kagome comes in with the save. In the anime, he didn't even try.

And the hug I mentioned, when he's attempting to appease Kikyo and she cries on his arms for a moment? Completely erased in favor of making her push her elderly sister aside twice and hurting Inuyasha more than originally intended while also referring to him as "beast", "monster" and "half breed."

I understand why Sunrise wanted to give Kikyo more screen time – she's a key character and people seem to have a good time drawing and animating her – but they focused mostly on making her look "cool" by kicking up a notch on the whole "vengeful spirit" thing and ended up shooting themselves on the foot by going too far.

They really thought the nonsense added scenes, like Inuyasha watching her bath or telling the audience they were always by each other's side – while actually showing them sitting far apart, Inuyasha being left to chase after the carriage she was in instead of being there with her, etc – would make up for the hug they cut out in order to give Kikyo more "badass" moments.

That's because they realized the couple had no substancy whatsoever and to remedy that, prioritized telling us that they were together for at least a couple of seasons instead of making the effort to show us this so called deep love. The hug was meaningful and made sense. Inuyasha dramatically laying on the ground while mentally screaming her name after telling her she needed to return the last piece of Kagome's soul – which is how Sunrise decided to end the episode – did not.

Especially because in the manga, he checked on Kagome before...

And after he left to try and get the remaining piece of her soul back – knowing what it would mean to Kikyo.

Plus, while obviously sad about Kikyo's "death", he also seems to accept this was for the best and acts like he is pretty much ready to move on.

Not to mention how he panicked when Shippo brought up the possibility of Kagome not being Kagome anymore and how absolutely relieved he was when he realized it wasn't the case.

And if this wasn't enough, he spent a good three panels blushing over Kagome right after the whole ordeal.

Those scenes had two purposes. One was to solidify, once more, Kagome as her own person to the audience and to Inuyasha, as well as a love interest. He had the opportunity to get Kikyo back and still wanted her to return the soul – even if it meant Kikyo would cease to exist – because he didn't want to risk Kagome not waking up or not being herself anymore, since he was already falling in love with her. Kikyo herself guilt trips him about it when he tries to convince her.

The other was to contrast Inuyasha's first reaction to Kikyo's ressurection and the information that they were both set up with his reaction after he was told that Kikyo died for him and therefore he owes her his life. The former consists on him standing up for himself and rightfully seeing himself as a victim, the latter consists on him blaming himself out of proportion based on a blalant lie. That's why in the manga he takes her "second" death so well, while the others really take a toll on him. In the anime, however, it's like he is already blaming himself when she falls off that cliff.

I attribute this change of attitude to another scene Sunrise thought fit to delete:

Of course the anime also has Inuyasha denying Kikyo's accusations, but he is way less effusive about it in there. Originally, when he realizes they were fooled into thinking they betrayed each other, he acts like they were both at fault for distrusting each other and are, therefore, even. So when she "dies" there's nothing he can do but wish for her to rest in peace and move on despite how sad it makes him.

All of this really sucks, because as you can see, the changes they did in favor of Kikyo either didn't work on her favor at all or heavily impacted the characterization of others – Inuyasha and Kagome especially – in a negative way, in addition to creating huge inconsistencies plot and narrative wise.

TLDR: yes, Sunrise's bias is obvious. And ironically, I think if they had liked Kikyo less, she would have been a much better written character because they wouldn't be afraid to give her the development she needed.

#And by the way this is not a ᴋɪᴋʏᴏ exclusive thing #I remember reading somewhere Kagome realized something important about her own powers and voiced it out in the manga #Only for the anime to make Shippo do it instead #Honestly Sunrise is so full of bullshit #Also I'd just like to point out that this is overall such a shitty thing to do #This series has like 193 episodes #And God knows how many fillers #Are you telling me you couldn't give side characters a moment to shine without taking it away from others?#And from the female lead no less #I'm sorry but it's hard to decided if Sunrise truly is biased or just incompetent #I'm guessing both #Because you know she's my baby but if the situation was reversed I'd feel bad if they took scenes from other characters #And gave it to her just because #I feel like I'm not asking for much here #I don't want them to add stuff up just because Kagome is my baby #I don't want them do give her anything she didn't already have #I just wanted a more faithful and accurate adaptation that's all #Wow this really got away from me didn't it?#Anyway FUCK Sunrise #Sidmailing

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