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nathalie-sancoeur-assistant · 4 years

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Loveater

Here’s my analysis on Loveater, spoilers are below- and there may be some Miracle Queen ones as well.

“Experiencing loss is a part of life. Some people lose their first love. Some lose the harmony of their relationship. Some people lose hope. Others lose patience. While others lose their soul. Some lose their certainties...and some have nothing to lose”

Let’s look at this intro sequence, shall we?

I believe each and every one of those lines have meaning and foreshadowing in them for each character they were about.

My evidence:

“Some people lose their first love” it shows Master Fu staring longingly at Marianne. And in the very next episode ( MQ spoilers) even though he’s lost his memories, he’s finally able to be with the woman he loves.

In this very episode, the loss of harmony between Andre and Audrey’s relationship is what starts off the whole plan Hawkmoth has in store for the next 2 episodes.

Some lose hope- Chloe, losing hope in Ladybug that she will ever have her miraculous again. And that loss of hope is what fuels her to (MQ spoilers) follow along with Hawkmoth.

So what are we left with that didn’t quite have any resolution in this episode?

Chat Noir, losing patience.

Nathalie, losing her soul.

Gabriel, losing his certainties.

And Luka, having nothing to lose.

Before I go on, I would like to point out that the only time we have heard of someone having “nothing to lose” was in Heroes Day, when Hawkmoth claimed HE had nothing to lose....and yet, if he had nothing to lose, he wouldn’t be losing his certainties. So how does Luka have nothing to lose, pray tell? Moving on- these are the 4 unresolved lines of this episode, and I can’t help but feel as if there’s going to be more at play to them later on.

Chat has been basically waiting for Ladybug to fall in love with him this whole time. If he’s losing patience, that may very well cue his attempt to move on through season 4.

Nathalie, losing her soul- Nathalie Sancoeur. Nathalie “Heartless”.Soulless? And directly after it’s said, she begins coughing, because she’s still sick. This could be implying a couple things.

1.) Nathalie’s body isn’t the only thing being effected by the miraculous. Her lifeforce and very soul are being effected and potentially drained.

2.) By soul, they’re referring to how she’s willing to give up anything for this family. How she’s essentially allowed herself to become their servant, willing to do whatever they ask of her and essentially, giving up her soul for them.

And if it’s the first then we know that Emilie isn’t just comatose or dead. She’s practically soulless.

No matter how you take it, it means that she has been willing to give up her very soul for Gabriel and his family.

Gabriel, losing his certainties- when she says this, we get this scene.

So this I feel kind of obviously implies that Gabriel’s certainty on both what he thinks is right and what he wants is wavering. And if he’s losing his certainty, his determination is going to waver...which means he might start occasionally skipping over potential akumas for Nathalie’s sake.

Now of course (MQ spoilers) by the end the peacock miraculous is already fixed, giving him less reason to doubt his intentions and actions, but what about what he wants? This is the episode after Felix chronologically if I remember correctly, so this is directly after Adrien told Gabriel that Nathalie was practically part of the family. And we see how intimate things get between them throughout these two episodes. He may have no reason to back down anymore, so it would be interesting to see him still doubting himself.

And lastly, Luka...honestly, this is likely a really big stretch...but the only other person who’s been implied to have nothing to lose (despite having a son who needs him, a woman who loves him, and a business that can’t run without him) was Hawkmoth. And now we have Luka, someone with a sister who needs him, a mother who loves him, a girl who needs his support that he cares very much for and a bright future ahead of him, being implied to have nothing to lose. As soon as I heard that, my thoughts went to the new Hawkmoth actually being Luka. Which...I have no clue how they would do that. But...he’s the person no one would suspect. He’d be practically safe from suspicion until some solid evidence came into play and even then folks would doubt. It would be the biggest plot twist MLB could pull, I’ll tell you that.

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I don’t ship Lukanette, but this is very cute.

And this...oh my gosh, Gabriel in this scene. He just seems so happy to present this love cloak to Audrey and Andre. It’s one of the happiest sounding voices I can recall him using and it’s because he did this on purpose, he know’s exactly what’s going to happen. He’s just waiting for it to unfold. And you have to admit it’s pretty funny. Especially when you realize that...he did it on purpose. (and he made it a cloak because he wanted to akumatize both of them.)

They both know what’s up.

And you know what, I actually like it quite well, but Audrey is right...it doesn’t look good on Andre.

“A symbol of eternal love...”

Sooo if someone were to order that in a dress form for themselves....would it symbolize their self-love too?

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Adrien: Can we help you? *puts hands together* please?

Pure.

“The secret to a long lasting marriage is-” “Distance!”

Nathalie:

That smirk.

Even if no one dates each other in the Kagami/Adrien/Marinette/Luka square, they have a very wholesome friendship deserving of recognition.

Scooby dooby doo, where are you, we’ve got some work for you now

This was a shout-out to the cliche of all older cartoons when folks are sneaking around, wasn’t it?

She’s still the one out here on the field doing the dirty work.

Pure. Nothing to see here, just two broken rich kids finally having a chance to enjoy themselves with their good friend Marinette. I love their friendship.

My resting face.

She really is quite pretty with her hair down.

Gotta go fast

She pressed one button and spoke to Hawkmoth. She has Hawkmoth on speed dial.

I ship lovesquare but the more we get of Lukanette and Adrigami the more I appreciate it. And the more Luka grows on me. I don’t ship it, but I’m not mad at it at all.

I love the Mari-vision. Its like watching a lightbulb go off in her head.

Also! I love how Heart Hunter/Loveater doesn’t just target romantic love. I mean, sure romantic love is cool and all but they were even able to recognize the love and bond between an owner and their pet. Self-love counts. I’m honestly really disappointed they didn’t get a chance to corner Nathalie, though...not that I want Nathalie in harms way, but I would have loved to hear them say something like “This one is just absolutely filled with love.” “Yes, unrequited...” “Love for a family that can never be her own. What a shame...” and right before she gets devoured, Chat Noir dives down and gives her a chance to get away.

I have nothing to say about this, I just wanted to include it.

They still look like night and day even without ones transformation.

“I dont believe in those kids of myths...but I do believe in ice cream” I agree.

“I wish I didn’t have to involve you in this”

Poor thing- I love this scene though. As soon as we see them together it starts with him reaching for her- seeing them out in public, in the daylight, interacting like that, it’s quite pleasing.

Does he even realize how close her is to her?

And when you zoom further out, he’s got a hand resting on her shoulder...

It’s quite beautiful.

An awkward screenshot, but I love this running sequence. “Bye bye little bird”, love it.

And...she fell right into their trap. They knew they’d never be able to find the guardian if she managed to detransform and be her civilian self- they were rushing and confusing her so she’d forget to detransform.

“My dear guardian” Okay so what does Hawkmoth have a thing for Master Fu now?

“My dear Pigeon”

“My dear Mayura”

“My dear Guardian”

It’s like with me and calling everyone “Hon(ey)”. And I have to admit, the first time seeing this-

It was quite terrifying. Because I couldn’t help but imagine/compare it to looking up and suddenly seeing something like SCP-096 looming over you, or slenderman or you know just...something really chilling. Looking up and seeing someone or something with the capabilities of ruining and uprooting your life, when you’ve been trying so hard to avoid them all this time. It’d be spooky.

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The conversation they had here was kinda heartbreaking.

“There’s only one person I don’t want to hurt- Marinette. She’s the only other friend I have.” and yet “I can’t give him up, even for the sake of friendship”

Maybe I find it heartbreaking because I value friendship over romantic feelings. If I found out a friend had feelings for a guy I also liked, unless that guy approached me first, it’d be given up for the sake of my friend. And even if the guy approached me first, it’d still be a complicated process for me to be willing to accept. I’m so used to hearing about Friends > everyone else that I forget that there are people who don’t have those same values.

Aw yeah, Master Fu finally out to kick some shell.

And the fact that Hawkmoth assumes that old people have the same time limit that children do, goes to show that hey, he still doesn’t know everything about the miraculous. He still has a lot to learn.

Oh gosh I love going through and pausing this show frame by frame because then I get gems like this

I can’t stop giggling at this omgosh

“You talk a lot but you haven’t achieved much so far” Master Fu’s really out here to roast Hawkmoth.

Maymoth are a power couple.

Okay so....I love this? It’s actually really clever if he’s looking for more allies. I like the way he went about it here. Offering her something she desperately wants and can boost her power...and in return she fight by his side. And targeting her once all her hope is down the drain, when her doubts are at their highest...yes, yes, it’s twisted as heck but I like how you can see the thought he put into this. He’s even willing to go so far as to call her “My queen” just to further erase all doubts she might have and cement the idea that if she follows through and does as he asks she can have everything she wants.

ngl this gave me strong Sebastian Michaelis vibes (a demon off the show Black Butler).

And I like how they were sure to incude the detail of the akuma not only just flying out of the cloak but also lsing the energy it had been infused with.

And Marinette’s emotional breakdown...

Finally, we get to see some of the effect that owning the miraculous and having to constantly hold back her negative emotions has had. It can’t be easy, having to constantly lie to people you love and trust, not being able to show them a side of yourself that really is a part of who you are. Never being allowed to feel overwhelmingly sad, or mad, for fear of destroying your home and family with no one to stop it. And on top of it, feeling as if you have to give up on the person you love because, they love someone else, and someone else loves them more than they love you. Feeling as if Adrien can’t be trusted for fear of spreading her deepest secret, as if Kagami doesn’t care about her as much as she may have hoped, and she ends up rambling about something tht Luka can’t begin to understand unless he knows her secret.

And Luka, “You can tell me everything, or nothing if you prefer” that is so important, Luka has officially gained my utmost respect. His personality, values and mindset are starting to really come out and I respect it. He knows that sometimes people just can’t talk about something right then and there, that sometimes they’re just not ready, and that it’s okay. I like how they used that to showcase part of Luka and it’s really important for kids to learn that too.

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iamforevercaptured · 5 years

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Princess Fragrance s1 e14

in case anyone was actually curious about #freethejaffacakes i did eventually get them open. ate two. called it good. have not revisted the jaffa cakes again lol. i do like them tho, so they may reappear bc im pretty sure im the only one who eats them in the house even though i was not the one who bought them?? idk. let watch the next ep. (also guys comment on my posts! id love to hear your thoughts on the episodes!)

adorable moment of ladynoir even if its him wanting to touch her and her giving him dirty look. my precious children lol

im sorry but I WOULDVE LOVED TO SEE THE MAGICIAN OF MISFORTUNE??? he looks so cool guyssss not sure what his goal was with vanishing the Eiffel tower but still

AH who do i take my bug-mouse to when she's sick?!

omg IVAN SAME

jeluka & rose are adorable and jeluka is so supportive of her bi gf.

probably marinette: be sneaky be sneaky *falls and screams walking into class*

rose totally saved mari from another bad excuse omg

“...quiz on lab safety. again.” what a mood.

DOES THIS MEAN HE STAYED LATE TO HELP PEOPLE AT THE SCENE? awwwww chat noir is a gift

alya being a #1 wing woman and while i support it, MARI WAS BARELY IN CLASS SHE DOESNT HAVE NOTES EITHER ALYA

“then dont breathe on him” im dying.

he moves to catch her. guys rewatch that a few times. HE MOVES TO CATCH HER. bless

i like how chloe’s idea of impressing the prince is to give him some weird toy she found on the side of the road like...um really?

oh rose no, baby, retreat.

i kinda love how dramatic they made this sequence bc thats how it would probably feel to a high school girl with a crush.

THIS DOOR GUY IS SUAVE WOW lol

AY ITS MARINO #spoiler?

her design was really weird tho. very um alien villain princess chic??

ah a moment to remember that they are all jus kids wow

Prince Ali being clueless due to culture and language barriers is awesome. while it can be cliche i think its cool that they utilized it in this ep bc it allowed him to let chloe’s crap slide right off of him and enable him to be a bit more of a “kid” then the rest of the kids in this ep...hopefully you get what i mean.

i love how her early remark was literally just to set this up lol karmas a bitch chloe.

no kidding mari. RANDOM DANCING BUTTON TO THE RESCUE!

adrien is done with your gluttony plagg but omg his little scream bless

reinforced door...guys uh she controls a gas. that reinforced door is not gonna protect you.

the little move away from chloe and her reaction is wonderful omg

Chloe you know what that is. dont ask stupid questions omg.

They still move away from her omg

BUDGET LB

CHLOE HES YOUR FATHER lol

can i just say. the pedestrians in the last few eps have been wonderful. bless you sidewalk man lol

also can we stop for a moment and appreciate chat’s face as he looks at the bowls lol

WHO IS DRIVING? ok i totally thought it was gonna be chat bc what happened to keeping the prince SAFE??? thats not safe driving lady.

also yes im enjoying smelly chloe and everyones reactions bc of how ridiculous they are omg

CHAT NOIR IS DOWN

Mari is learning yay, but seriously how long does this take bc they got to the bridge and im imagining they walked from the car so...uh cartoon logic??

Master Fu! what kind of cat? uhhhhh. I WANNA KNOW HOW HE HELPED TIKKI

im getting wedding vibes?

“MY PADLOCK” ya getting some really weird wedding vibes guys

best part of this ep? the reveal of the nose clip on lb LOL

look at our ladynoir cuties!

is anyone else getting doctor who poison sky vibes?

not sure how that worked but ok then

hold up, im losing it over chat’s “waiting for a command” state being so catlike. like what even?

and the advisor lady’s reaction is wonderful

awwww rose and her celeb crush. but lol chloe had a bad day wow

I like that this is the first ep we really see Master Fu interact with them before beginning the origins episodes. I mean hes there in the background but this was his first direct interaction as far as we know after the origin episodes (which are next in ep order). also i have so many questions about like how the ladybug magic fixes things but people forget what happened under the spell of the akumas and while being akumatized. like id love to know at what point people stop remembering things. is it at the point of being put under the akumatized people’s control? just like how akumatized people blank out at the point of being akumatized? also my brain is totally working that whole the miraculous holders get some characteristics of their miraculous animals head canon. I wanna see more of Adrien accidentally acting cat like, or mari just randomly eating a bug and suddenly realizing that alya is staring at her for it.

#mlb watch #fox rants #ml #mlb #miraculous #miraculous: tales of ladybug & cat noir #Ladybug #Chat Noir #miraculous season 1 #princess fragrance #ft the kraken who is on my lap being needy #Master Fu appearance #ml questions #chloe has a terrible day and its hilarious and im so sorry chloe but it is #ml pedestrians are wonderful #whoever is in charge of them is a blessing

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bluepride7 · 6 years

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Sandboy had so much amazing stuff going on so this is gonna be a long post

- Ladybugs worst fear is not being able to save everyone and purify the akuma

- Chat Noirs worst fear is Ladybug turning against him

- Adriens worst fear is being locked in some place with no way out

- Marinettes worst fear is cute but seriously girl cmon have some dignity (I still love her tho)

- Plagg and Tikki r officially the cutest things o have ever seen (sugarcube and stinky sock r life)

- Plagg freakin crying for Nooroo is hurting my heart

- People make Chat Noir memes... I have no words for how amazing this is

- Marinette pulls a freakin ladybug to get away from zombie Adrien (who is scary as hell btw), she’s not just a simple girl as Marinette. But we already knew that

- Adrien calls out for Natalie first when he gets trapped because she’s in a way always there for him, but he also calls out for his father several times and u can hear in his voice that he is terrified. MY POOR BABY!!!!

- Gabriel is evil. I have no words for how much I hate him. He’s so terrible to his son and to Nooroo!! He does not deserve Adrien or Nooroo!!!

- Also how did he do that magic thing with Nooroos mouth?? He made it freakin disappear!! I think there’s something else going on besides wanting to bring Emilie back (now we know how he knows when people have negative emotions)

- Gabe what is this terrifying as fudge face you’ve been doing all episode??

- PLAGG SLEEPS IN ADRIENS BED!!! NEXT TO HIM!!! ON HIS OWN PILLOW!!!! O MY GOD!!!!!!!

- “Plagg oh no! Who turned u into a sock?” Adrien u r to precious

- The other kwamis r so cute!! Pollens voice is everything that I hoped it would be. The snake miraculous is named Sass!! THATS ALEXS KWMAI RIGHT THERE!!!

- The other kwamis r like brothers and sisters right?? So how come they believed Plagg when he said he sacrificed his cheese??

- The kwamis sing??!!! My heart!!!

- Plagg is the “I left my boy” gif after the find out what the akuma does. Even when he gets back to Adrien he says “nice to see that you’ve survived your nightmare” and he says it with an “o my god I’m so sorry I left” tone

- Hawkmoth knows where they r!!! This will not end well... I can already see so many bad things happening

- GABRIEL DONT U DARE TALK TO MY CHILDREN LIKE THAT!! U WILL NOT ENSLAVE THEM OR SO HELP ME GOD U WILL FEEL MY WRATH!!!

- Chat Noir saving/ protecting/ carrying ladybug all over the place!! O my god he finally got some of the recognition he deserves

- Marinettes zombie Adrien was a hell of a lot scarier than Chats evil Ladybug. I think Marinette has watched one to many horror movies and Adrien might not have been aloud to watch any. Plus he says “this is y u can’t let kids watch whatever they want” so maybe he wasn’t allowed to watch horror movies at all

- That child is so freakin cute!!! He’s wearing a Dark Owl pair of pjs!!!

- NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT MARINETTE AND PLAGG WERE IN THE SAME ROOM... AND HAD NO INTERACTION WHATSOEVER!! YYYYY!!!!!!!!

- Plagg is jealous of Tikki and Marinettes relationship... o my god my baby boys r so adorable I might die💙

- Plagg and Adrien having a moment and hugging!!! I NEEDED THIS!!!!

- Gabriel was that foreshadowing at the end there?? Whatever it was it scared the shut out of me

- That ending credit scene tho!! I felt like they were all staring into my soul!!! And hawkmoths face was scary as hell!!

Did I forget something? I feel like I did but this whole ep was one big nightmare so... if I forgot something tell me please...

Later bug heads!!!

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous ladybug spoilers #miraculous theories #ladybug #chat noir #marinette dupen chang #adrien agreste #tikki #plagg #other kwamis #sandboy #so much

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