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#i cant stop thinking about kdj
mhaynoot · 11 months
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[orv spoiler - tw // suicide ]
no but like kdj thinking himself the source of all his loved ones misery and trying to end his own life to end the oldest dream and bringing his own sword up to fucking kill himself. and its like a grand opening, the final build up of all his self sacrificial tendencies as the curtains are shoved aside and those acts are now plainly revealed to be what it truly is - suicidal. repeated and desperate. attempts. him trying to kill himself. 15 years old and jumping out of a window. 28 and dying over and over again. because kdj lived as if he was living on borrowed time and had never valued his life compared to his loved ones, trading it easily as if his death was an easy bargain.
but of course it isnt.
yoo sangah says, "we're friends."
jung heewon says, "that man is the world i wish to save."
han sooyoung says, "this story is just for that one reader."
and yoo joonghyuk and kimcom reach out and say, "you're kim dokja."
there is no value to a human life because you cannot assign a value to it. the idea of human life being "worth" something is antithetical to orv's anti-capitalist message. so kimcom does not go save him because he is "valuable".
so why does kimcom go out of their way to write the story? why does yjh and biyoo spend countless years scattering kdj's story?
they still dont know him fully, they never can. you cannot know another person entirely even if you read everything about them. they and the world has already been saved, they can move on to a peaceful future. they almost did too. they can let go of grief and someone who probably brought them more pain than anyone else. so why? why for the one they don't know, the 1% they don't have memories of?
because it matters. every bit of him matters. because he is a human life. his story will always matter.
there is no saving someone just because they saved you. there is no transactional value or a simple you did/can do/will this for me so i have to. they are at peace and they will still choose him, to reach and save him. it is unconditional love and endless devotion and it is enough.
kim dokja, you deserve to live. kim dokja, your happiness matters. kim dokja, you are loved.
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WHY CAN’T I LISTEN TO MUSIC WITHOUT IMAGINING THOSE TWO??
IT’S ALL JOONGDOK’s FAULT
anyway here’s what happens when music makes me think orv things
* Running up that hill (a deal with God)
This makes me think about the demon king arc where Kdj and Yjh fought over who would become the demon king. First thing that came to mind was how Kdj refused to let Yjh become the demon king now this might be because that rat bastard always has a plan and had to become the demon king for his plan but what if another reason is because Kdj couldn’t bear killing Yjh. Yjh’s story was the reason Kdj survived for so long. He kept reading his story for years (like 10? idr) and that motivated him to survive.
From thinking ‘what would yjh do?’as a kid and still thinking what would HIS protagonist do when the scenarios started. Now how could kdj bear to kill his protagonist, the one that brought moments of joy to his life, the one he grew up with, hell his reason (reason for what? that’s up to readers’ but I see yjh as one of kdj’s reasons to live). I think kdj would rather swap places with yjh if it gave yjh even the teeniest moment of relief because well he’s kdj’s (they’re life and death companions your honour).
Another thing this song makes my brain twerk about is yjh. Yjh wanted to become the demon king so kimcom would have to kill him right? Now this sounds a bit eh because he can regress and all but remember yjh told kdj that he could take their companions to the end of the scenarios.
Yjh cares about his companions so much he’s willing to sacrifice himself to save them even if it means he won’t be with them ( shoutout my puppy boy 999) Yjh wanted to swap places with kdj because he believed kdj was the one that could help their companions survive, he’s the one that could protect their companions and make it to the last scenario with them without losing anyone (someone give my boy a hug and some tea please).
Also what if yjh was tired of seeing kdj sacrifice himself (rat keeps dying and damn) and wanted to protect him, to help him see he doesn’t need to keep sacrificing himself and what better way than to sacrifice yourself?? Yjh willing to swap places with kdj to protect him, to put a rest to his endless sacrifices, as a form of companionship (get you a companion that goes through mind breaking scenarios for you).
Honourable mention to Sp btw. I’ve not gotten here in the novel but I’ve seen the ‘why him not me’ line enough that I can’t ignore it. Sp who wonders why kdj chose yjh of the 3rd round instead of him, the yjh kdj grew up with (is he? I got this info from twitter so I’m not 100% sure and I’m not done reading).
I believe sp wants to be by kdj’s side (man’s got a book filled with all kdj’s comments my guy) and with that desire to be by the one that’s been with you from the very beginning (I’m referring to kdj being by the sole reader of twsa and basically experiencing the scenarios as a reader)
I like to imagine if sp had the chance, he’d swap places with yjh (GO FULL ON SCARLET WITCH BABES) I know I’d sure want to switch places cause damn this is the person that’s loved me and stood by me even when I was just a webnovel. This person looks up to me when in trouble and cherishes me to the point of sacrifice now why in hell wouldn’t I want to be by their side??
Anywho that’s enough for this song. Bear with me while I joongdoktify everything I see and hear :)
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thinking about the ship of theseus as a concept and how it applies to kdj. how much of yourself can you cut away before you cant be called the same person anymore. how many times can you kill yourself before there stops being enough of you to be killed. how much of yourself can you tear into pieces and throw away before the callousness with which you do it becomes a fixed apathy. how many repairs can be made to the ship of theseus before it stops being his.
honestly feel like it applies to yhk in general really well too. han sooyoung and her avatars in a literal sense since she is quite literally sectioning herself off into pieces whenever she uses the skill; yoo joonghyuk more metaphorically since we see in the 1863rd round whats basically like. the stripped to nothing recognizable ship now returned to theseus (kdj). but i feel like with kdj its just The Worst because we look at the scenarios themselves and like kdjs half performative half genuine flippant reveals of his deepest traumas and at his thinly veiled suicide attempts (sacrifices) are just. hello? i mean each one of those just guts him further and further and we see the literal actual fourth wall continue thickening to the point where (given we observe in kcoms pov) who is kim dokja? whats left after you peel back all the skins hes discarded? what makes the ship of theseus the ship of theseus?
and then you throw in the sucker punch of the 49/51 debacle and the question stops being like a vague overhanging vibe to the story and instead becomes the focal point of it: how much of a person can you strip away before they stop being the person you know? and i really truly think orv answers this. it answers it in the most beautiful way possible and the answer is that if theseus loves the ship. its his ship. the ship of theseus can be 1% original parts, it can be 49%, it can be 99%, it doesnt matter. the ship of theseus is theseus' ship because he loves it and as long as it continues to be loved it will continue to sail under his name.
and idk. i think about that a lot. people love you regardless of how much they know about you and thats the point. being known often precludes being loved but sometimes people know you because they love you. the ship of theseus is his because he loves it. yeah.
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rocaillefox · 4 months
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wait WAAAAAAIT. realization about orv def spoilers below
okay so we know that theres the whole situation with OD creating the universe of the world we see in orv. right. and his beliefs and impressions of the story created it, then at the end all the readers and dokjas out there create the story through their imagination and belief- they make it real.
ive already mentioned how this mirrors his mothers book, but let me take that one step further. because its what od wanted to believe, reality itself may have actually been bent for our main kdj. it may have genuinely not been how the situation happened until his mother, now a character but a character only insofar as every character is (as so much of orv is about becoming real and becoming fiction), decides to make this truth the reality by convincing our kdj of it.
the problem with this theory is that because of kdj's unreliable pov, we cant know if this is what happened or if he was just in denial. its the whole 'everything in the universe was created five minutes ago by a guy named steve who made it impossible to tell by fabricating memory etc' philosophical conundrum- it cant be proven or disproven. from a philosophical standpoint its useless.
but i think its also very interesting from the perspective that this, orv, is a novel. its a story. and to each reader that stops at some point, what they know of the characters up until then is a real version of them. which means that metatextually, through kdj's unreliable pov and the fact this gets revealed at some point, the story and therefore his reality does materially change.
our kdj has always been a self insert character. and a reader. and orv plays off of the nature of reading so beautifully in all possibke readings of it i SWEAR im going to bite something
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kdj-225 · 2 years
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um um short royalty isekai joongdok???? kdj transmigrating into a world where he is the emperor and yjh is his trustworthy knight 🤭🤭🤭 (its ok if you cant write this or if it's not exact, i love your writing so much!!!!!!)
[!!! I'm so glad you enjoy my written works, thank you so much!! I had fun writing this prompt, I hope you like it as well!! 💕💖💕💜]
note: this is first person POV, from KDJ's perspective!
cw for: passing jokes on death / dying
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※DO NOT REPOST / HOST MY WORK ON OTHER APPS OR SITES
A year has already passed since my transmigration into this web novel.
A year of struggling not to fall into anxiety at my current reality as the emperor of a fictional kingdom, a year of fooling my own people that I was perfectly hale and healthy and not going insane at my own transmigration, and a year of me having to figure out just what I could do so I wouldn't accidentally set myself up with a death flag with the smallest of actions.
One damn year, and the heroine could finally take my dangerous knight commander away so I didn't have to keep being under his watchful eye, and they could have their happy ending.
For all that I'd read what felt like a million webnovels in my original life, and for all that I loved certain tropes enough to read them over and over in different stories, I could still remember the plot for this novel I'd been thrown into.
It was typical, for a romance fantasy fiction.
The heroine was a saintess born into the life of a commoner, with a heart of gold intent on serving the people. Her male lead was the cold and unfaltering Knight Commander, the youngest person to have ever received such a title in the empire, and her childhood friend. Both people skilled on opposing sides—one in saving lives, with the other in taking them—yet with loyalty similarly sworn to the kingdom.
And between them was the emperor, who sought to have the saintess to himself. For power? For love? For sheer greed?
I had no idea. I wasn't able to finish the webnovel, considering how it had been ongoing the last time I read it.
"Your Majesty. Stop shaking your leg."
I stopped shaking my leg, realizing a little too late that I'd been doing it at all. "I admire your gall to tell your emperor what to do," I said, frowning when I gave Joonghyuk a look. "Can't you guard me from the outside?"
"You have a window behind you."
"If I die, I die."
Joonghyuk scowled at me. Somehow, he could still look handsome while making such an ugly expression. "Your Majesty. I don't appreciate such jokes."
Oh, but were they really jokes? Maybe I could go back to my original world if I die. It wasn't like I was brave enough to test it out myself, so if someone else could do me a favor...
I smiled. Well, there was no point to thinking such things when my Knight Commander was so scarily efficient with his work.
"My apologies. I'll try to be more tasteful with my jokes next time."
"Please don't joke at all."
"Ah, but where's the fun in that," I sighed, finishing signing off on a document about opening an investigation for a potentially corrupt baron. "You are boring enough as is, Joonghyuk-ah. I can't let you get any more boring when you're with me."
He raised a brow. "Is that why you've set up a ball for me."
It wasn't even a question. This guy really was a weirdo, regardless of his status as the male lead.
"You're my favorite knight," I teased, putting my pen down so I could rest my cheek into my upright palm. "Isn't it only fair to celebrate you and your achievements?"
"You wish to marry me off."
"I wish to see you happy."
I received a mysterious look in response. If this series were a webtoon, then perhaps I'd have a better chance at deciphering his expressions, but it had yet to be adapted into comic form when I read it.
Ah, really. This guy was the one who made things so much more difficult for me than they needed to be. At least Lee Seolhwa was easier to deal with, given her prioritization of healing as a practice.
"How about Your Majesty?"
I cocked my head to one side in question. "What about me?"
"If marriage equates to happiness, I don't understand why you haven't chosen your own spouse yet."
I wanted to tell him that I had no right to such happiness in a world that isn't mine. That I didn't deserve to create a family here, when there was still a chance of me going back. That I wasn't meant for marriage at all.
But I couldn't.
So I said, "Your happiness is enough for me, Joonghyuk-ah."
"Is that so."
"Yes."
He gave me a long look. Again, it was difficult for me to decipher.
"Then you will not question my choice later," he said.
I blinked at him, then smiled widely. Of course, it was like that. Yoo Joonghyuk has known Lee Seolhwa for long enough even before my transmigration that he must have built up such feelings for her even without my meddling. He must be wary that his emperor would feel envious of his choice, right?
But I wasn't that emperor from the original novel. I wouldn't interfere with their happiness.
"I won't, Joonghyuk-ah."
He nodded.
Was it just me, or was he smiling a little?
"Good to know, Your Majesty."
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I should have taken his words for the warning that they were. I should have realized that something was wrong from the start.
If I had prepared myself better, I would've known what to say now that my Knight Commander was kneeling in front of me.
I couldn't even swear.
"Joonghyuk-ah, what is the meaning of this..?"
My voice was shaky, for all my efforts to remain calm.
Joonghyuk didn't mind it, as he did just take my trembling hand. I had just announced what the ball's purpose was with him at my side, I had told everyone of his achievements—
Then he'd abruptly kneeled upon one knee in front of me, and told me that he wanted me.
This couldn't have been in the novel at all. The ball itself might not have been prepared by the emperor in the original novel, but surely, such a change couldn't have led to something this insane?
"I told you," he said, taking my hand closer to press a kiss upon my gloved knuckles. He didn't seem to mind the increase in volume from everyone else's gossiping and murmuring. "You are the person I want as my spouse. Did you not say?"
His eyes, dark and deep as they were, glinted brightly under the chandelier lights.
"You won't question my choice, Your Majesty."
Fuck.
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BRO THIS POOR DOKEBI HES JUST TRYNA DO HIS JOB HES BEING NICE TO THE INCARNATIONS AND HES TRYING HIS BEST I UGHHHHH 😭😭😭 this poor sweet thing, if i was u id run away from dokja hes gonna bully you.
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panel 354 of dokja looking pretty 😌
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something about this just feels disrespectful to sangah. like yea she pretty but...thats kinda fucked up persephone. if some fabled being put on my face and did ...that... id not be happy. at all.
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BROOOOO WHAT DOES IT MEEAAAANNNNNN
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NONONONO FUCK OFF NASTY HORRIBLE WOMAN LEAVE NO ONE LIKES YOU(thats a lie i like you just pls stop)
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NEVER. try to tell me kdj isnt gay. ☝️
he legit shuts down a baddie to just say he wants her husband like bro 🙄
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hey, uh, what the fuck does this mean? latter days, gigatitanomicha or whatever its called, the outer gods, BRO JUST TELL ME WHATS GOING ON THIS AINT EVEN FORESHADOWING YOUR GIVING ME NAMES AND ARC TITLES BUT NOT INFO ON WHAT IT MEANS MATE WHAT THE HELL
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YOOSUNG MY POOR BABY WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU
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see dokja keeps trying to say he doesnt care and he just doing things to get the ending he wants but thats a LIE HE FUCKING CARES MATE J DARE YOU TO TELL ME HE DONT
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brroooOOOOOOOOOOOOO I FUCKIN CANT LEGIT SOBBING RIGHT NOW OK THANKS FOR THAT GOD DAMN
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istg if he fails to save her im killing.
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mate....its the apocalypse.
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"i dont know if youve heard" mate she's literally his mom.
hes legit looking at the woman who ruined his life i think he knows
she gave him childhood trauma I THINK HE FUCKING KNOWS MATE
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THE CHAIRS HAHAHA
the polotician getting the regal like chair, the actress getting the fancy cushiony chair, the other two getting basic wooden chairs, kdj mom getting a metal folding chair and DOKJA WITH THE CRAPPY PLASTIC CHAIR AHHAHAHAHAH I CANT BOOOOYYYYY
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bro the majority does not want to do things your way. boom democracy. ur done. shut it. no one likes you.
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knowing why hes angry, that face looks like hes so jealous. like hes looking at kdj like he betrayed him. gay. u gay.
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dokja having a panic attack bc his bf isnt picking him for the 6th scenario.
but the thing about yjh is he wasnt going to bc he didnt know kdj from past regressions, no matter how much he wants to be close to kdj hes going to push him away bc he doesnt have the safety net of past knowledge. he doesnt know whats going on so he stays away. he may not act like it and he may not even know it but it highly likely hes almost scared. (not rn ofc but when it comes to kdj and his relationship with kdj)
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GILYOUNG PROTECTING YOOSUNG AWWWW
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endless-season · 22 days
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3,9,10,17 for orv meme (shhh lets pretend i go here)
ORV Ask Game
3. do you have a favourite quote?
Answered!
9. any popular thing in the fandom you love?
The trio being idiots - bonus points for HSY+KDJ ganging up on YJH.
KimCom sharing a big house post epilogue!
Cute 999 family art
Ngl, Secretive Plotter hissing at YJH still makes me laugh.
Seeing new readers' live reactions of certain arcs hehehe.
10. any popular thing in the fandom you cant stand?
Idk if it counts as popular, but romantic HSY x YSA. Idk if its cause I'm ace inclined or cause I'm just not as interested in YSA, but eh. Also sometimes feels like the times where people ship something to shove off the third chara in a trio.
17. any controversial takes?
Every so often there are some very loud ppl in the fandom going "Omg OP thinks ABC is XYZ and asking if FGH is a ship, urgh they're such idiots, they don't deserve ORV, that's not the point of ORV, ORV should never get / should never have gotten an adaption otherwise we'll get people like this".
The people you're complaining about literally has not read the novel so maybe stop being an asshole and expecting them to magically know everything. Let them be excited about ORV. Let them make incorrect guesses about ORV in peace. People enjoy different things, let them be instead of all this toxic gatekeeping nonsense. Grow up. /rant
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im so normal abt orv [1]
whenever i think about orv. i just. explode.
argh
its just so... fulfilling. theres so many layers. whenever i analyze smth about it one way suddenly i realize that it can also mean something else. and oh my god. “the story changed every time i read it. it was over but it wasn’t over. the story wouldn’t end unless the reader gave up on the story”. BRO. KDJ SAID THAT. AND KDJ IS A READER. US. THE READER. WE ARE KDJ. ARGH. someone pls stop me before I spiral into the abyss (jk u cant). i wont say orv is absolute perfection. i believe that everything is flawed- orv has its share of problems. the complexity, the length, bad eng translations etc. however, i think its as close as it gets. how you know a book is good is that when you put it down, the story doesn’t end. the pages keep turning in your mind. you think about it for days, weeks and sometimes even months on end. orv gives me that feeling. it carves out a place in my heart without me knowing and leaves me feeling empty yet fulfilled at the same time. rah. i feel.... fulfilled.... just... like kdj.... orv is his fulfillment.... to become.... the protagonist..... to save...... people.... to have friends.... companions..... and even as much of a foreign concept to him, happiness. and..... grrr i have so many thoughts. ill continue this a later time.
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uriel-is-best-girl · 2 years
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Kingdom two crowns orv AU
Maybe spoilers??? Idk
Featuring yjh with a golden crown, black horse, black clothes and a white fur cape or coat bc f the color schemes I think that looks cool. And kdj wearing the opposite color scheme, with a white shirt and long black cloak with white fur around the edges that hangs down to cover his eyes.
!!!OPTIONAL INFODUMP ON HOW KINGDOM TWO CROWNS WORKS!!!!
Ok so first things first for anyone who doesnt know what kingdom two crowns is its a side scrolling videogame where you play as a monarch rebuilding your kingdom from scratch and every night these monsters called the greed cone out of portals to attack you, and they slowly get stronger. They take your money, and can turn your workers into homeless peasants by stealing their money. You 'die' if the greed steal your crown. You move through different islands by repairing your ship and each island will have stronger mounts or hermits which can help you (and these are unlocked with gems). Every island will have a final portal that defeating will stop the greed from returning on that island. You cant beat the first island without going to different islands first (as far as ik anyway).
!!!AU STARTING HERE!!
Yjh as the monarch rebuilding/building a kingdom ti fight against the greed. Kdj as one of the hermits/ the dude who will hold onto your gems for you. The vibes im feeling are yjh struggling in what feels like a hopeless battle, exploring ruins to find anything that could help his kingdom survive. Hes just repaired his boat to move on to another island in search of a stronger mount when kdj appears wearing a cloak and looking sketchy af. Yjh still has some gems on him and kdj, with his untrustworthy smile, offers to hold onto them for him. Yjh is suprised bc in all his regressions (yea, regression is happening :/) hes never seen kdj. Yjh doesnt trust kdj or believe him about holding onto his gems, but he wants to know why kdj has nvr appeared b4 so he asks kdj to join him. Kdj is like nah, and blah blah eventually yjh ends up giving kdj 1 gem to see what happens. He thinks worst case scenario hell just start over. Then next island yjh cant find kdj again for weeks and hes pissed. But then kdj appears again by that half rebuilt boat with that grin of his and with yjhs gem.
And kdj stays there, offer always open to hold onto the gems. Sometimes kdj will even offer yjh advice. Advice that turns out to be life-saving. Anyways so yjh gets attached to the mysterious man, and everytime he travels to a new island he is worried about kdj not reappearing. But he always does.
Hmm ok so why dont the greed chase kdj? Bc hes a wizard, magical boy, whatever, and can cast a spell that makes him hidden from the world, so he can watch as an observer. Before the regressions began, kdj lived in the woods with his mom. Non of the cannon trauma, kdj's dad was killed when he was young bc kdj's mom was a witch and modern laws and law enforcement werent there so he dead b4 kdj can rlly remmeber him. However we do have some trauma with how isolated kdj was and also his mom was shunned from the current kingdom (of which yjh was the prince) for being a witch and idk ppl also probably tried to kill them for that and all. So that means that the hidding magic is one of the first things kdj is taught. Bc he had to use it so often he can cast this spell w/out a book or other ritual aids, but all other spells he needs extra materials for andd his spellbook. So that means he totally gets yjh to essentially go on fetch quests for him with the reward of stuff like "strengthened city walls", or "a boutiful harvest".
Anyways, back to the backstory, when kdj becomes an adult, he goes off on his own, wandering through the woods and being a hermit, collecting books/exploring ruins and avoiding ppl bc he has trust issues ofc. Hmm, need an origin story for the greed, do they appear out of nowhere? Ummm, so one day the earth trumbles and the air crunches and outside of the kingdom black rocks fly together to form arcs, and with a firey woosh purple illusory flames appear inside the arcs, and out of these portals run these black and oily child sized figures which begin to wreak havoc and the apocalypse starts.
Yjh cannot even begin to save his kingdom this first time because its so sudden, hes caught up in the havoc of just trying to survive like everyone else. Then, just as hes about to pass out from blood loss or smthing, a cloaked figure appears before him and asks him "do you want to save your kingdom?" When yjh blearily answers yes, kdj smiles and says cryptically "many have failed, but perhaps, you will be different".
So then yjh blacks out and bc he was dying he forgets this. Kdj takes him away and heals him, then leaves him somewhere safe with only his crown and a horse to try and rebuild and survive. He fails, and when he dies he wakes up again with only his crown and a horse. He doesnt remmeber kdj.
Okay okay more backstory time, not only was kdjs mom a witch, but also their family are some of the only ones who had records of and knew about the coming apocalypse, some generations try and stop it, others mearly standby. So when it comes around again kdj decides he wants to try and help, that maybe this time will be different, and will end the apocalypse for good.
So yjh continues on, this mysterious yet helpful man coming and going, working to defeat a the portals on every island. Finally he makes it back to very first island, where it all began. This time when he goes to attack the last portal, kdj appears and tags along. Used to kdjs sporadic and confusing behavior, yjh thinks nothing of it.
But at the end of this final portal, on the very first island, is the king who was supposed to be dead. Yjh looks at the father he barely knows or recognizes with horror, and, the truth beggining to dawn on him, anger. The truth of the apocalypse was that it was always caused by a previous king who had defeated the previous apocalypse and, in the height of their kingdom and success, become corrupt with greed, until when they die their spirits cant accept it and they bring about the apocalypse once again. This is the secret that kdjs family knew, and he helped yjh not knowing him but hoping he would be different. And he was right, yjh would be different.
Anyways after that yjh forces kdj to come back with him, and having helped in the fight kdj is too exhausted to actually fight or run away like he ussually does and then they live happily ever after in their kingdom (yjh gives kdj a crown and makes him a ruler as well, claiming that kdj helped just as much but we all know the real reason he does that is bc he wants kdj to stay and also ppl will think theyre married which yjh does not mind).
I forgot to add but the reason kdj only appeared after a couple regressions is bc of that underlying fear from his youth about ppl hating him. And the only reason he appears at all is bc he wants to help and finally decides to risk trying it.
Once again im sorry to anyone reading this bc i am not editing...
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toftie · 1 year
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orv spoilers under sorry
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been reading some theories and like i love the idea so much about kim dokja being a co-author to orv, because that means i think everybody in the main trio was a co-author at some point now, possible even everyone in KimCo as well as others who have helped them
1863!revised HSY started writing TWSA in order to save KDJ → but the epilogue was never finished before her ego got integrated into her subconscious → then events of ORV starts (which everything we have been reading was actually recorded this whole time by 1864 HSY) but this was not fully completed by herself this time unlike the first time she wrote TWSA. in the epilogue she notes she actually had to get help from everyone they've met, extracting their fables and asking them to recount their experiences of everything up till now. then at some point she wasn't able to continue writing and YJH had to continue writing his own parts in when he was in space, maybe he even edited some parts where his point of view was needed, and then finally after KDJ wakes up, as the last piece of the final puzzle, he finishes writing the story together with them probably after he recovered, filling in his own point of view on parts that only he would know (which is a lot as he is the main character)
i just love how this was a story started by one person that was only able to be completed with the help of many people, something that would not be possible if KDJ wasn't able to help all of them as he did. it was written with love to bring back/save one person (KDJ) and when he did eventually come back as implied by the ending, he wrote the epilogue in a way that made it so that it was to save the reader (us). rephrasing the beginning texts of TWSA in order to tell the reader that they will be able to survive, just as he was able to survive
also. like i still cant stop thinking about the 0 turn, like i keep thinking is that right? did i read this right? did YJH really choose to regress of own his volition just so he could meet KDJ? like that was the beginning of his regressions right? i kept thinking why? why would he choose to leave his perfect happy ending and go through the hellish scenarios again over and over, granted that the scenarios will be hellish because he loses all memories and KDJ isnt there to help him, just to meet him?
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i dont think i'll ever fully understand and i think maybe YJH doesn't understand either, and maybe thats fine and thats just how it is. maybe deep down he feels like KDJ should be a part of his happy ending, like physically a part of it, rather than just an observer or a constellation watching them live it (paralleling the 1864th ending with him watching his avatar live happy with KimCo) since if it wasn't for KDJ, they would not have lived happily ever after. maybe its just how YJH loves, i dont know. i mean even after they finish the 1865th turn and go back to normal lives, YJH literally becomes so restless and unable to do anything with himself that he becomes a terrorist to take the Ark and implying to go to another worldline to find KDJ again. AGAIN. like he was literally haggard and disheveled looking and couldnt even keep up his gamer job because maybe he felt like his happy ending wasnt complete without that idiot(?) he was willing to, and actually did, lose more years of his life going to space, for like an indefinite amount of time, and he knew this, he fucking knew this, and just like the first time he accepted the regression stigma, he went in the great beyond anyway just to find KDJ again. that is insanely absurd to me like explosions are going off rn
oh and actuallt wait no he wasnt alone, the group regression thing by itself was literally insane and also YJH reading ORV written by HSY with others really helped him cope with the burden he placed on himself, as hes the only one capable of doing the impossible (like KDJ with ressurecting)
it also kinda parallels with HSY again as she was initially alone when writing TWSA for KDJ (um i guess the dokkaebi king was with her too but like... that doesnt count cuz there isnt really a solid bond, more like employer and employee thing) which took up many years, and then she writes ORV with everyone's help later on which i think absolutely helped her and everyone cope with KDJ's absence. HSY lost many years of her life writing for one man, including the Kaixenix arc, just like how YJH lost years of his life fighting for one man while KDJ lost many years of his life sacrificing himself for everyone, by doing what he knows best, reading, to keep their stories alive while they lived out their happy ending. i think i am literally just talking in a loop now but when it comes to these 3 the parallels and symbolism are so insane with how interconnected and almost symbiotic everything is
also i was literally just doublechecking the definition of symbiosis and
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hey hey doni~ coming in with another orv update!! im halfway through the novel now (ch277 to be exact) and holy shit this has been a wild ride. i seldom cry when consuming media but damn i think i genuinely cried at one point. also this sounds kinda cheesy but i kinda see myself in kdj? or rather his stories resonate with me?? idk how to explain it but im strangely attached to him now. god this novel has been making me question my own existence and im only halfway there...
anyways that's it!! dont wanna talk much bc i dont wanna accidentally spoil the story for some people. please do tell me if these get annoying, i just wanted to let you know about my progress aha
- 🔶
ps. i think at some point there was a scene where yjh was shirtless and I NEED THAT IN THE MANHWA STAT!!!! I NEED IT!!!! also now i wanna see fanart of yjh in that chinese dress and garter belt kdj loves so much lmao
AAAA HI DARLING!!!! PLEASE DONT WORRY ABOUT BEING ANNOYING I WAS ACTUALLY WAITING FOR UR UPDATE EHEHHEHE :DDD i didn't think u'd reach chap 277 so quickly my god ur speed .....
also yes!!! i don't think its cheesy u see urself in dokja!!! even i do as well!!! i think theres sumn abt him that all readers can relate to? especially those of us who use reading as a means of coping!!! n yes the novel does do that to u 😭😭 ITS SO CAPTIVATING U JUST CANT STOP READING 😭 there are so many moments in the novel that i cant wait to see in the manhwa i really hope they dont change too much of it 😭 i especially wanna see the breaking the sky sword saint n her shenanigans with yjh 😭😭 i dont know if u've gotten to that part yet but its very entertaining AHAA
also while there isnt a drawing of the outfit being described theres these two that the novel artist drew!!!! thought i would add these in as a nice lil presie ;D
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koheletgirl · 2 years
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I'm saying all three but you can pick which ones you want to do
Atla
Zukka
Zuko
thank you anon i will do all of them
atla
favorite character: i am incapable of answering this question and you cannot make me
least favorite character: ozai
5 favorite ships (canon or non-canon): zukka, mailee, sukka, tysuki, maizula. also jinzula has been growing on me lately
character I find most attractive: june <3
character I would marry: suki, if she'll have me
character I would be best friends with: sokka, if he'll have me
a random thought: what is life but a series of random atla thoughts? um so it's canon that waterbenders can freeze water. so reasonably they should also be able to unfreeze it. firebenders can heat water, iroh does it. can they also freeze it?
an unpopular opinion: they should have left the show alone no adaptations no sequels
my canon otp: sukka
my non-canon otp: zukka
most badass character: katara hands down
most epic villain: i guess ozai? i wouldn't call him epic. oh that owl guy
pairing i am not a fan of: i'll just say sokkla again. this blog is a sokkla hate space
character i feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): you'll never guess what my answer is. like i literally never talk about this. it's azula
favourite friendship: sokka and toph!
character i most identify with: mai <33
character I wish I could be: suki
zukka
when I started shipping them: cool story. i started shipping zukka organically, like a month after finishing the show (and the comics). i found myself thinking about them more and more often, and then one day i was like "i wonder what their ship name would be. probably zukka. i bet the tumblr ppl like this ship". and i was right
my thoughts: sadfkl;sjgh;skdfgkjdjskf’ksa;kdj but also sometimes no.
what makes me happy about them: (:
what makes me sad about them: the divorce :( no i’m kidding but i do get sad sometimes thinking about what it would take for them to actually get together and how hard it would be for both of them. and in general, both of them carry so much trauma. it’s devastating to think about
things done in fanfic that annoys me: girl where do i start. poor uwu softboy zuko, ultra charming suave dude sokka, fics that only focus on zuko’s pain, fics that seem to enjoy zukos pain a little too much (you know what i’m talking about), fics where sokka is big and strong and zuko is small and weak (racism), fics where sokka moves permanently to the fire nation, etc etc etc etc
things i look for in fanfic: in general, i think zukka fics should capture the essence of their boiling rock dynamic in one way or another. if that makes sense.
my wishlist: i am 100% serious when i say i don’t want to say anything bc of ayin hara. this is embarrassing
who i’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: suki for sokka, some male oc for zuko i guess
my happily ever after for them: zuko abdicates and abolishes the monarchy, sokka becomes a major world leader and inventor, they adopt izumi and maybe some more daughters (they only have daughters), and they travel the world together 
zuko
how I feel about this character: i love zuko so much and i hate how this place treats him. i said this once i think, i refuse to stop loving zuko just bc you guys cant be normal about him. i love him on purpose
any/all the people I ship romantically with this character: sokka. he hooked up with jet but i dont think theyd be good for each other
my favorite non-romantic relationship for this character: mai!! 
my unpopular opinion about this character: i dont think he was fully aware of the fact that he was gay until wayy after the war had ended. i think he knew on a certain level, but i think he did a really good job repressing it. also i think he’s cis 
one thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: i’m contradicting myself but it would have been nice if zuko had been gay in canon. obviously they couldnt do that. but he definitely shouldnt have gotten back together with mai
favorite friendship for this character: toph
my crossover ship: nope
send me a fandom/ship/character
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mingi-bubu · 4 years
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Watch “Youth With You” with Me!
Episode 7 Part 1
- alright it’s another week which means it’s another episode of ywy!!!
- mr. fruit turning tf up as usual.  we stan a blueberry icon
- i’m not eating anything right now but i do have a water with me!  stay hydrated kiddos!!!
- okay and the next group “don’t ask” is on stage here we goooo
- i feel like any foot fetishists are getting their rocks off from this and i hate it
- yay esther!! i know a lot of people don’t like her but i really think (at least right now) she’s very fun and entertaining
- kunkun stop bullying this group just bc you don’t like esther al;dfjka;kldsfj
- lisa the love of my life sweetie you are doing amazing i love you so much
- oooooooh i like the effect
- kay song’s voice is very nice here
- momo’s hair is nice i like her bangs
- dolly’s voice is very much suited for r&b i think
- esther yes that’s my girl!
- i like this song a lot it feels like it’d be in a drama or something
- i think that with everything that esther is and does we forget how she is when she performs
- i mean given that this is like essentially the first performance it isn’t saying much but still
- ooooohhhh those harmonies during the chorus i-
- i would love to see a ballet routine to this song ngl
- i love that there’s so much praise for this concept!  it deffo is v fairy-/dreamlike
- i know i say this every time but kunkun looks sooooo good in blues i love one (1) man
- lisa looking off to the side bc she has no idea what he’s saying???  a big mood.
- iugh its this grody toothpaste man again i’m sick of him
- kay song really did pop tf off i’m not surprised she got first
- love the product promo shot of ella drinking the fruit milk lmaoooo
- ok next group!
- Renai Circulation?  inchresting.  i love their outfits thooo!!!!
- vivi chen’s hair style is so sweet i love it
-yay xiaowei duan!!!  i remember her
- XIAOTANG ZHAO I LOVE HER SO MCUHHH
- oh god are they gonnna make this a ppap situation again?  i don’t know if i want to see nonsense like that on the stage again hhhhh T.T
- ladlfkads;lkfja they’re deadass being told no and it’s 100% because of Kun’s run in Idol Producer llakd;adljf
- xtz reminds me of czk trying to look cute.  it’s just so *taeyong voice* awkward
- kun bitch ill kill you
- al;ksdfja;ldskf stooooopppppp nooooo i don’t want to witness this again dal;kdj;fd
- that song is the reason they cant alter it you fool
- is this when lisa comes for blood???  please????
- i would die for xtz thanks for coming to my tedtalk
- lisa is such a sweetie i love that she cares so much about them T.T
- do they mean pigtails when they say- yeah yeah they do
- awwwww tonkey looks so adorable
- xtz needs to channel her inner esther i think
- I LOVE WHEN THEY USE BUBBLES EVEN THOUGH I’M WORRIED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY ON STAGE
- bc they might slip and i am worried
- xtz has too serious a look her face i caadn;dafdk
- bubble zhu saw this concept and made it hers
- i love kun jsut staring at the screen with a blank expression like *war flashbacks meme*
- xtz really does look like a senior surrounded by underclassmen aldkfadkfj
- i deeply hated it though i was not a fan of the execution of the cute concept but that oculd also be bc they made me have to relive ppap stage
- and cxk’s edward cullen looking ass hairstyle and makeup
- i’m hazel al;dadkl
- xtz has the potential for good leader position too with how she immediately went to comfort everyone about the concepts
- my sleep scheddy has been so fucked up this week i’m falling asleep and it’s not even 21:15.  disgusting.
- i wonder if kun is wearing his insoles right now???
- YES THE STAGE TIANA AND I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR TWO WEEKS NOW UGHHHH
- @zhuzhengtngs tell me what you think blease
- i love xan yia talking about food and completely forgetting she did in fact eat drumsticks a few days ago aldk;fadjf
- OH IS THIS WEHRE LISA IS GONNA GO FOR BLOOD
- ok she’s going for blood in her own way but i still love it
- i would love to have a teacher who cares this much about their students bc she definitely wants to help them succeed which i think is one of the nicest things about this is that you can tell the mentors care so much and want to help the trainees do their best
- not to plane emoji emo hours
- ooh no is she okay??
- tako zhang is deffo keeping it together though but i hope she doesn’t pull a zach werenski and play through an injury
- kun is definitely struggling with what to do
- god i hate it when people put things that definitely aren’t as important as their health above an injury
- and i can say this with validity bc i’m guilty of it as well.  i hope she was able to see a doctor after
- okay time for the stage
- i love this concept so much
- holy shit the splits
- this stage is so visually interesting i am really enjoying it
- shoutout to the camera guy for popping back over to tz bc i would really like to make sure she’s okay
- i want this song on spotifiy like last week
- she looks like she’s about to cry i hate this so much
- this stage is so good tho ugh
- UGH THE THING WITH THE FANS AT THE END I AM LIVING FOR IT
- oh i didn’t even notice the sparkly ribbons in some of their hair during the performance aaaaahhhh that’s so neat
- rightt but how is tako zhang feeling????
- damn that is a good score so far gals
- ok dance results
- hell yeah that’s what she deserves babymonster is a class act lads
- only 28 points speparating play and the eve im screaingming
- i’m glad kun doesn’t pd like yixing did bc i would get so stressed out by that
- what the fuck that really happened
- play --> bad guy --> the eve oh wow that’s a thin fucking line between the scores (relatively)
- vocal section now ladies lezgeddit
- yay naho i was worried that she had left i love her
- i so want ziyi or zzt to show up as a mentor x, maybe even yixing or zhoumi
- oo ok with the fog that’s cool
- i love the glitter tears that keep appearing in the stage makeup .  it’s very fun i think
- naho my chiild i love you amnd im so proud
- is kelly lin the one who’s like already famous or is like an influencer or something?
- i literally hope that naho is able to move up in the classes
- this song is really good like i would deffo cry to this in my car going 70 down the highway at like midnight
- that was a great performance
- i love the people screaming in the audience it kills me
- not surprised by that lowest score
- ahhhh i’m so proud of naho !!!!  incredible
- i love that she’s getting emotional over the dry ice on the stage
- ella my mtoher and love of my life i would die for you
- me too audience, me too
- a;lsdjgslkdf;iwef she’s so funnny i love my mom!!!!
- kun immediately dancing a prince i love him
- ooh we love a gingham pattern
- ok that’s cute
- i too am a frying pan
- ok wow yoga fuckign out them like that i guess
- i’m so tired im deffo going to sleep after i watch part 2 bc we have like a little over 5 minutes left in part 1
- me: *sees their staging*
- me: *is violently thrown back into flashbacks from high school detention*
- i love this song and not bc im biased towards ella
- i got so distracted watching and listening that the song is literally over and i haven’t talked about it at all aldkfja;lkdsjf
- they harmonized nicely and the lights were very pretty
- i hate the big shiny plaque on yoga’s blazer
- ella truly is someone who i think is a very valuable person to have in your life based off of the advice she gave the trainess
- one of these days im gonna ask tiana to explain why the voting audience are called producers and why cxk as the main mc is called youth producer rep and i’m writing this here so i’ll rembember to
- ok that was all for part one.  part two coming soon!
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