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wigglebox · 2 years

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Let’s talk Mary’s costuming in The Winchesters’ trailer!

One of the first things I saw pop up specifically was about how Mary looked in this, 1972, in comparison to her 1973 counterpart in SPN prime.

Neither one is out of place, but their styles do seem pretty different. I’m not going to get into why they decided to style her like this as opposed to in SPN prime, but I will say that Mary never seemed to have her own “style.” She’s had vaguely girly things that’s hit trends in the various times we’ve seen her but she’s never felt like she’s had her own “style.” The most we’ve seen her with a style is after she comes back to life and we see her for three seasons in outfits that more or less mimick Dean and Sam. Jacket, over shirt, under shirt, simple hair, minimal make up.

But even then, her style felt more like the boys’ style, and not her own.

Which is why I was so excited to see her costuming in the prequel’s trailer. It felt like they were trying to finally establish her style to us. And with visual storytelling, how you stylize your character just sets the tone and vibe and gives us subtle or not-so-subtle hints at who they are as a character.

When looking at the line up up there ^ I see someone who’s vaguely girly, though the 1980 Mary in Asa Fox -- girl your hair. Help. Who did this to you.

But, 1980 flashback Mary in Asa Fox matched 2019 Mary more in my opinion of someone who doesn’t really care about her appearance and is just wearing someting to wear something. And that’s how I feel 1972 Mary’s styling looks like.

At least in the trailer. Idk what else they’re gonna have her wear.

From her hair, her jacket, the pin buttons, and the necklaces – some people were confused as to why she looks like she walked out of 1997 than 1972, but to me she’s still 1970s (especially because all aspects of 70s fashion from 1970 to 79 have been revisted in subsequent decades of fashion up to this day).

Her look is just not conventional, typical, generalized 1970s. To me they personalized her more to tell us her story.

Note, I’m not a certified fashion historian, but I do like fashion from the ‘60s and ‘70s a lot lol. I may get some things wrong, but this is just what I’m thinking. I know there are fans of this show who likely were even walking and talking at this time and may disagree with what i gotta say but whatever I’m gonna go for it anyway lol.

Also a reminder: this is The CW, not some period drama on HBO Max or anything.

Despite not having expertise in this area, just going off of the numerous vintage fashion video’s I’ve watched on Youtube, there are some things i personally always keep in mind when it comes to studying fashion trends.

Trends do not exist purely within the boundaries of a decade. The early 70s take with it some late-60s fashion trends, particularly the hippie/boho stuff but other things as well like jewelry and some hairstyles. Every decade bled into each other, and with the rise of fast fashion, trends can change even easier. Now, in 2022, you can’t really even pin down a trend because things just move too fast.

Trends didn’t often quickly permeate more isolated, conservative, or poorer areas of the country. The population of Lawrence in 2020 is estimated at just over 97,000. You can imagine it’s smaller for the early ‘70s. But these places didn’t often have people who played into fashion trends be it too expensive, extravagant, or just not having the resources to buy and invest in trends that would flip in a few years anyway.

Let’s start with Prequel-Mary’s hair.

Some said it looked too ‘90s or just not 1970s at all. But it is! Long, straight, sometimes messy-looking hair was indeed a trend for women in this time. It may conjure images of hippies for many, but it was also on other women. For me, Mary not having curls means to me that taking the time to curl and stylize her hair, and going in for trendy haircuts, wasn’t her priority. There are plenty of images, spanning multiple countries, of women at this time not doing anything with their hair, leaving it more natural and not having blowouts or curls. Also, since Carlos evoked the name of Janis Joplin, Mary’s hair also reminded me of her.

Onto Prequel-Mary’s necklaces.

Another thing that made people say she reminded people of the ‘90s were her chokers, but chokers are hardly a ‘90s thing. Indeed if you look closer at her necklaces [which is harder to do in non-HD lol] you’ll see they seem to be made of wooden or shaped shell beads, which was common at the time and a hold-over from the late ‘60s. They aren’t out of the ordinary at all, especially later in the trailer when we see her sporting one with some kind of pendant on it but still with what looks like natural-material beading.

Prequel-Mary’s leather jacket?

This was a little harder for me because the leather jacket combined with the vintage pin buttons felt very punk when the punk fashion movement is usually hard marked at 1974 and beyond. The prequel takes place two years before that, obviously. But, women wearing fitted leather jackets weren’t uncommon, but usually signaled that she was a “bad girl.” To me, just with the quality of the trailer, it indeed looks like a motorcycle jacket or just something simlar. Women in leather jackets became more popular with the rise of the Mod fashion movement in the 1960s.

It’s not a current fashion trend for someone of her age to wear that i think in 1972, but I imagine the costumer designers had their reasoning. Between the hair, and the jacket with the pins, they are establishing Mary as someone who isn’t following typical young women trends and societal expections. Basically, she’s living outside the “norm.” She doesn’t have time to look “cute” or fashionable. Who knows, maybe the jacket has some personal meaning to her.

I’m unsure if this is also influenced by her music taste lol. We don’t know enough about this Mary yet. Though, I do want to know what her pin buttons are really realyl bad lol.

Prequel-Mary’s t-shirt/under shirts.

This isn’t really something anyone complained about, and it’s because there’s nothing to complain. Young women wearing t-shirts and jeans were common throughout the 70s.

This tank top:

This is 1973 but:

The tanktop isn’t out of place at all. There are multiple variations of different kinds of tanktops and a scoop neck tanktop wouldn’t be out of place I think in 1972.

Prequel-Mary’s make up

I’m not going to get too into makeup because it’s harder when you don’t have actual fashion historians doing your costuming and make-up – idk if this show does but again it’s The CW, not a high budget period film. But also, being on TV, especially if they’re going to be shooting this with specialized lenses and the like... just in general, you need more make up I think on an actor.

However if we go off that ^ image above we can make out a peachy kind of blush, pinker lipstick but not overdone, thicker eyebrows, and just some eyeliner with mascara [maybe a little shadow but it’s not intense imo].

Given her jacket, her hair, and her apparent t-shirt and tanktop thing going on, I’m willing to bet she also seems to be the kind of person to put the least amount of time into her makeup. Obviously not every woman can be painted with the same brush -- we all decide on our personal style and if we want to care about trends and all of that, and if we want to follow societal norms, but a trend that followed into the 70s, also due to the women’s liberation movement, was a more natural look.

Compare this Covergirl ad from 1972 to Mary’s look:

It’s not too far off imo. Her lipstick is a little pinker but I don’t think it’s like, out of place.

Mary’s eyebrows I think are what threw a lot of people off because they are darker and thicker. If you look at fashion magazines at the time you’ll see a lot of pencil-thin eyebrows for the most “trendy” but her thicker eyebrows aren’t out of place.

To me (as someone with thicker eyebrows lol) it’s going in theme with her minimal make-up, little hair styling, and shunning of young women’s fashion trends at the time. She doesn’t have time or the need to go to a hair salon, get her hair layered and permed or put in those hot rollers. She doesn’t have time to go and get her eyebrows waxed or spend time in front of the mirror to do it herself.

She feels androgynous in a sense. A little more masculine than our 1973 Mary who wore embroidered cowgirl shirts and sported shorter, more styled hair.

I’m unsure if they’ll change Mary’s appearance once they hit 1973 in the show. I don’t even know when they want to hit 1973 in the show.

If anything, what i’m gathering from little comments from jackles he’s made regarding this show, it sounds like it won’t be told in a way we’re expecting so who knows what’s going to happen tbh.

But regardless, I love this Mary’s styling. I can’t wait to see what else they put her in!

#long post #spnwin #if anyone has any other thoughts pls jump in #i'm not an expert #just sharing observations #i also wanna just do everyone else lol

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turtleblogatlast · 1 month

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Don’t think I ever quite said what my LGBTQ+ headcanons are for the boys, so these are my current thoughts! Always changing of course but this is what I feel most strongly right now.

#rottmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rottmnt headcanons #rise donnie #rise leo #rise mikey #rise raph #donnie and leo’s sexualities being practically swapped was unintentional but it works way too well #same with mikey and raph tbh it was a happy accident #anyway I kinda hc raph as the type who doesn’t care about physical appearance just if you fight lol #Mikey’s more than happy with friends and family #Donnie is a BIG romantic but he needs time to sus a person out fully before he gets the hots for them #leo meanwhile isn’t keen on romance unless it’s with someone he grows to really really REALLY trust #I could go on and probably will later (knowing me) but it is late and I am tired haha #turtle art tag #curious as to what everyone else headcanons #the only one of these I’ll defend forever is Bi (female-leaning) donnie and trans leo #all the others can change over time but I really like where they’re sitting right now #I hope these are the right flags too because it was kinda hard to find them #went looking for transmasc flag in particular but I couldn’t find a solid agreed upon version 😭#ngl a big part of why I hc mikey as aro is because of a pun #my phone often misspells aromantic as aromatic and- and you get it- because aromatic herbs and- and Mikey is a chef do YOU GET IT #note that while I hc leo as bisexual (male-leaning) I still think he’s prob closer to demi in that as well just not as far into the spectrum #if that makes sense #headcanons are fun and hard to narrow down at the same time alas #I made this in like an hour can you tell djjdjd #I drew them all from memory so if there’s anything wrong…shhh #and if you’re wondering for April and Splinter #Both are Bisexual (female-leaning) but April is also Panromantic #I almost wanna make Splinter demiromantic too so Big Mama’s betrayal hits just a bit harder

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oceanwithouthermoon · 18 days

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i think its weird that i have to make this disclaimer but the internet is crazy so wtvr,, anyway,,

if i say i dont like something, that doesnt mean "that thing is bad and nobody should post it.."

i swear literally every time i even mention that i dislike something, people will go "wow does that mean u fucking hate me cuz i post that thing? ur a fucking stupid bitch and all ur opinions r wrong" LIKE ?? er.. no. just because i say i dont like certain characterizations of certain characters (the saiki k fandom is CRAZY about this cuz i can state an opinion on literally any character and a group of people will still go 'well only we're allowed to post our opinions about them because we're always right!1!1!'), or certain ship tropes (mentioned my hatred of toxic yaoi maybe once or twice on here months ago and people STILL get mad at me as if i said toxic yaoi lovers r evil or something), or certain ships, or WHATEVER, does not mean that i HATE the people who are posting them or that i think they shouldnt post them at all, NO, im just posting about my personal tastes on my personal blog and it would be extremely weird and hypocritical if i decided that i was the ONLY person that was allowed to do that,,

i think the only reason people assume that is because there are a lot of other people on here who ARE like that, and a lot of people toe the line between posting that they dont like something and posting that they think everyone who likes that thing is stupid, annoying, and wrong,, so i guess all i can say is, sorry for whatever made you make these assumptions but they arent true about me so plz leave me alone ʘ‿ʘ ur doing the same thing to me that ur accusing me of but i didnt do it in the first place so ur just actively being a dick for no reason

#crazy that the mindset some people on here have is that theyre the only ones allowed to post their opinions #ive repeated this a lot on this blog but i rlly think people forget that the person on the other side of the screen is in fact a person #if ur harassing people and publicly making fun of them then ur just as bad as any real life bully #that shit isnt as funny or harmless as u like to pretend it is #not once have i ever targetted anyone or went on someones blog to harass them over my opinion #yet people think its fine to do the same to me and treat it as if its like. revenge or something #like ? me saying 'i dont like toxic yaoi' is not equivalent to someone going on someone elses page and going 'how tf do u like toxic yaoi'#I DONT CARE !! all ive ever done is sit in my own little bubble and had opinions and that makes people mad #honestly though the people who will publicly talk and post abt it are significantly meaner #and i want to act like im not bothered by it because i know most of them r just angry that someone has a different opinion #and they want all their followers to bandwagon off of them (idk why maybe for validation or whatever-same reasons anyone would bully)#but seriously if u actually do think that something i said was out of line and crossed thise boundaries- just fucking tell me ?#im a person bro. ur solution to disagreeing with me shouldnt be 'lol im gonna post abt this and make everyone harass them'#have a conversation with me dude i dont bite ? if u cant talk to me like a person then just dont fucking say anything wtf #its so cowardly to be like 'well no i didnt wanna say anything to u cuz i didnt wanna be rude.. so instead i publicly made fun of u!'#LIKE WHATTTT STOPPPPP </3333 #ok anyway this post wasnt supposed to get THAT serious.#MY POINT IS just be considerate of other people and dont base ur hatred off of assumptions #ur deflecting the blame onto someone else because u dont want to admit that ur just a fucking bully lol #being inconsiderate on here is something ive also been guilty of back when i first joined the fandom and was clueless #but grown ass adults who have been on here way longer r still doing that shit which is crazy #and i cant say anything because they have so much leverage over me and idk if its on purpose or if they dont even realize #ok im putting fandom tags cuz i want people to see this sorry. this is my one post thats actually targetted but its at a lot of people #so if u look at this and think 'hey i do that' pls evaluate urself<3 #i mean its also targetted at everyone who does this anonomously so i dont know who it is OKOK IM DONE BYE SORRY HOPE THIS IS UNDERSTANDABLE #watch nobody read this fr #saiki k #tdlosk #the disastrous life of saiki k.#meows post

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last-in-line-for-hell · 2 years

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Wei Wuxian loving being manhandled, loving riding Lan Wangji because it’s the position Lan Wangji hits him deepest, Wei Wuxian producing his own slick, teasing Lan Wangji that their “everydays” will lead to Wei Wuxian getting pregnant, him acting like a total brat to get Lan Wangji to snap and be as rough as he can…I love this ridiculous brat of a bottom.

#n$fw /#kinda #mdzs textpost not art #these are canon btw not even joking #Wei Wuxian is 100% a bottom and it makes him so ridiculous jsjkd #I could make an opposite post about LWJ tbh him literally getting harder inside WWX multiple times #being so rough with WWX and tying him up whenever he can #not even joking it’s really lovely to see them have such compatible preferences #even more healthy because they consider otherwise for a second before deciding not to because they don’t wanna #esp lwj djjdjd #idc what everyone else says or likes whatever you do your thing #but I find these two endlessly endearing in their blatant preferences not only in the general but also the more specific #I could write an essay on it and I’m not even being hyperbolic LMAO #ANYWAY just a draft I had that I was hesitant to post as people tend to suck but you’ve all seen my profile bio you know what I’m about #I also straight up don’t know what tumblr’s system will allow or not lol

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opens-up-4-nobody · 10 months

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Me, decorating my room: ...should I get a naruto poster?

Also me: If I search for naruto posters... they'll all make me angry in a way that's fucking unhinged

#and i was right. of course i was right. i wanna spit and bite #thry focus on the wrong things. why cant they just read my mind and make exactly what i specifically want?#why the fuck woukd i want an itachi poster??? i want a fucked up chakra tree sapping the people of their life force #i want naruto standing strong when everyones trying to tear him down. i want kushina telling naruto how much she loves him before she dies #i want iruka taking care of naruto when everyone else has turned their backs. but those make for bummer fucking posters #and i dont wanna hang my own art on my walls. maybe i need to go to an anime con. but i still feel like the artists would focus on the wron #things. ugh. i am become a naruto elitist. i just have too many feelings abt naruto >:-[#also. i live in the middle of nowhere in the mountains now so like i dont thibk ill b going to any cons.#also moving across the country is fucking exhausting and idk when ill have time to properly draw yet #naruto ramblings #is it too much to ask for everyone to interpret naruto like i do? in opposition of the writer?? is it me who's out of touch???#no. its the people who are wrong. lol me and my fucking naruto feels

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that-was-anticlimactic · 1 year

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hands hurty

#why do we need to use them for everything #i wanna put my compression gloves on but i'm at my dad's and he has two dogs and i don't want to risk getting dog hair on them and also i #feel like i'm covered in hair and it's nasty lol so i'm just waiting for my dad to fix the mirror on my car so i can go to my mom's and #shower and then put the gloves on and make popcorn and wallow in pity fdcghujihugyfvtcgybhunijhbgv #and also get some writing done lol i need to work on the nbmk bb but my hands hurt too much to actually type right now #like it's not awful but ik it'll get worse the more that i typed due to all the typing i've done this past week for school lol #hope everyone else's hands are not hurty <3 #sorry not to complain again lol i just ow #this has been in my drafts since july lol #corey tics:)

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dualdeixis · 2 years

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[Image description: A digital drawing of Winnehild looming over her battlefield with a toothy grin, surrounded by a blazing red halo. She holds her sword up over her head and points her knife directly at Tressa, who is in a warrior’s outfit and holds her arms out to either side to shield her party. On her right, Alfyn is in a thief’s outfit, struggling on his knees to lift up a jar that releases green sparks. On Tressa’s left, Ophilia is in a scholar’s outfit and leans on her staff for support, looking back at H’aanit with worry. H’aanit is behind Tressa as well as closest in the foreground. She’s splayed on the ground in a cleric’s outfit, holding up her staff in one hand and pointing at Alfyn with the other. End image description.]

WE WHO GOVERN REASON

#octopath traveler #winnehild warbringer #tressa colzione #alfyn greengrass #ophilia clement #h'aanit ot #drawings #help girl i just realized a lot of my recent drawings' palettes have been in the realm of red-teal including one ive yet to post LOL #i wanna do more different stuff now that ive noticed but it Is the palette of winnehilds battle and also just a nice color combo <3 #anyways i beat galdera yaaaay *draws a boss who isnt galdera*#team here is inspired by the 'tressa sidestep/cover + everyone else on 1 hp' strat lol i just think its funny #tressa dodging every attack: out here living my best life!!#winnehild: your entire party of healers is dying.#tressa: this aint about them #//#eye strain

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sweetsweetbumblebee · 7 months

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unrelated but i DO kinda feel guilty for my little crush for reasons i will not explain. but. yeah its wild over here tonight

#🍯#sfw #like he casually mentioned being glad he can have friends who dont expect it to become anything more and i felt ill #so. ill stop having THOSE feelings immediately lol #but i genuinely DO love him as a friend #n he said i was one of the first ppl he felt comfy writing with #and i. am soooo emotional 2night #my friends r so important 2 me and im never gonna say SHIT bc i love him as my friend wayyy 2 much #sorry im saying this here we r just mutuals on my main so. akdhsk #also we were talking abt potential meet ups the other day and i HATE living where i live. everyone else is soo far away #one of my friends is coming 2 the states soon n i will be a 10 hr drive away. thats fuckign miserable #the guy this post was originally abt and 2 of our other friends live close enough that he could drive 2 them. and its the opposite side of #the country #i wanna get 2 meet my friends so fucking BAD #like. i cant put it into words but i wanna give them hugs and see their faces when they smile and akdbdn #when is it MY turn to meet my friends irl #my shark

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randomnameless · 1 year

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I would like to add something to the previous ask: in all non cf routes one of billy’s primary motivators is finding rhea and bringing her back home safely. They also get knocked out because they tried to help her during the monastery siege. I quite like them outside of their self insert aspect and i agree that barring it, their relationship with rhea is a highlight as they obviously care a great deal for each other, s support or not.

Yep!

Which is why Billy fails at a self-insert - even when their character was nuked to make Tru Piss feasible - because Billy likes that place with weirdos that is supposed to be a school, where people ask them if they're alright, take time to talk to them and where they aren't sitting in silence, eating on their own while people mumble about they don't seem to be human, call them by a nickname they don't like and where they're not even sure they are appreciated by Jerry.

Despite the 526 red herrings about "Rhea Sus" and the general "Church BaD" - both to make Tru Piss an option and to justify taking Rhea out of the picture so they player's self-insert can become the most powerful and important person on the continent without any equals/rivals (especially in SS) - Billy likes to hang out with Rhea. And I find it hilarious that Billy doesn't listen to Jerry - who warns them to be distant with Rhea - and A supports her during the pre TS, being the only unit who can be A supported during the Pre TS!

Billy wants to get to know their lizard fam - and spend time with their newfound fam made by all those randoms in the monastery!

And in games where Tru Piss doesn't exist and there's no need to uwu... yeah, Billy can freely spend time with her, mention how they'd like to have the rest of the family join them for the next summer banner, etc etc.

#anon #replies #Billy stuff #they also saw Rhea going all Gandalf to save everyone's asses #and since Billy isn't a dastard they don't want her to sacrifice herself for everyone's sake #they know Rhea's not going to be tickled for 5 years #we're talking about the people who killed Jerry and now they target and capture Rhea #poor Billy they must think the Empire has something against their fam lol #but of course we have the uwu 'i don't want to kill her uwu'#ffs Leonie is angrier about Jerry than Billy who was sad killed a clown and called it a day #there's no anger nor 'why jerry had to die why did you do this' no nothing #just ' i don't wanna kill supreme leader uwu' and 'must we kill her uwu'#but when rhea asks if she's wrong to be happy to have survived they have no words just like when she wonders if the war started bcs of her #hopefully FEH dgaf about Supreme Leader since her own units can sell themselves #without needing to bring down anyone else #unlike the Fodlan games

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dammarchy211 · 2 years

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This isn’t an actual post I’m just leavin this here

I WILL elaborate. :-). Pulls out my notes and foldable table and chair

#reblogs would still be cool tho bc I love when ppl put their thoughts in the tags heart <3 #psychonauts oc #psychonauts ocs #psychonauts #psychonauts original character #psychonauts au #…?#i think?#honestly I could probably use a name for the plot line bc #it still centers a lot of the canon characters in it it just ALSO has my ocs in it lol #u can tell I got lazy n just ripped the lineart from their refs for the 2 other crime characters #actually u can’t bc I haven’t posted them here lmao—#everyone else looks kinda fucked up bc I just free handed them lmaoo #dex’s family members don’t count in any of these bc they don’t actually appear n are only plot relevant THROUGH Dex y’know?#except his sister I wanna do smth w/ her in the older aus n such ig #how do I get ppl to interact w/ my oc n au shit w/o seeming desperate-

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loverdude · 2 months

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My senior show is also so stupid lol like I am never again in my life gonna put my artwork in a gallery setting that's just not something I enjoy at ALL or aspire to do but I have to do this whole big terribly stressful thing in order to graduate and it's SO DUMB