#i GET why some people feel like andor isn't star wars

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I've recently been watching these very interesting Star Wars video essays on YouTube (yeah I know, a rare breed) and it brings up these comments Lucas has made about how he views Star Wars as almost like a silent film in terms of how important the visuals are to him in comparison to the dialogue. But this essay also points out how important Lucas finds all of the "rhyming" moments in his trilogies and the way he utilizes them to remind you of something else for emotional or thematic reasons. And there's so many of them, both in visuals and in dialogue, and it's interesting to consider how important this is to him, the repetition for a purpose as well as the storytelling through visuals above everything else and then to look at Star Wars since the Prequels came out and realize how little has really been able to match up to those ideals since then.

The ONLY thing that's come out since the Prequels that I think really hits these two things the same way is, in fact, Andor. One of the things I noticed about the way people discussed Andor as it was airing in a way I haven't really seen for any of the other shows or films was the visual SYMBOLOGY. So many times I saw people noticing the Imperial cog everywhere, from the aerial shot of Narkina 5 as the prisoners escape to the architecture of Mon Mothma's house. There were people picking up on the use of items in Luthen's shop that are familiar from other things to give this idea that Luthen is from another time, he's attempting to preserve this world he lost, that if you're not looking closely enough you won't notice what he's really saying or doing with this shop. The color choices for the different locations and people got analyzed because the people involved spoke about how they intentionally utilized color to SEND A MESSAGE about the characters and the world. We know that the people who made the costumes and sets really worked hard to treat Star Wars almost like a period drama and study the history of the franchise as if it were a real place so that the things they came up with felt like they belonged in this world everyone knows so well even if it's completely new. And of course there were all of the myriad references to things from Rogue One, the constant repetition of "climb", the sunset on the beach, etc.

Nearly EVERY SHOT in this show was created with so much intention behind it in order to say something meaningful about the characters, the world, this specific story they're in, and the overall saga of Star Wars itself. It's insane how much greater impact this show was able to achieve through the incredibly careful usage of visual symbols and thematic repetitions, much like Lucas did before them. It feels like they didn't just study the history of the galaxy far far away, but they studied the history of STAR WARS and what Lucas was trying to do and say with this story. They peeled back his onion a bit more and were able to create something that really has that same visual feel even when it's not created for a child audience. It also is experimenting with its narrative style through its structure and through Cassian's character being allowed to be somewhat more reactive than proactive, and while that didn't work for everyone, it does feel like it's following in Lucas's footsteps of experimentation through Star Wars. Push the boundaries of what Star Wars is and can be and what you can say with it.

But this only works because they peeled the onion back enough to TRULY understand all of the messages Lucas was sending with it. They got the heart of Star Wars and despite its lack of space wizards, despite the lack of most major characters in the Saga, this was a show that honestly got the message more than just about anything else Star Wars has put out since the Prequels. The choices between selflessness and selfishness, the themes about how you always HAVE to make a choice even when it feels like you don't have any (sometimes ESPECIALLY when it feels like you don't have any), and how important it is to make sure to choose the path of compassion above everything else. The themes of connection to others, the symbiotic circle and the impact even the smallest person can have on world around them, it's RIGHT THERE and it's CENTRAL to Andor's storyline.

So yes, it experiments a little with narrative structure, but it's possibly the most Star Wars thing to exist Revenge of the Sith because it honestly truly GETS what Star Wars was about, both in its themes and in its filmmaking. A lot of people said that Andor didn't feel like Star Wars to them, usually because of the lack of space wizards and the fact that it's not a story aimed at children. But to me, Andor is EXACTLY what Star Wars is and has always been. They're stretching the boundaries of what Star Wars can be, but it's saying the exact same things Star Wars has always said, it's just saying it slightly differently. This doesn't feel like fanfiction to me, not really. Unlike things like the Mandoverse or the books, Andor isn't just taking some of the toys out of the sandbox and going to play with them somewhere else. Andor is IN that sandbox. It's building a slightly different sandcastle, but it's still within the sandbox, using the same sand that Lucas did.

#star wars #andor #star wars andor #i GET why some people feel like andor isn't star wars #but quite honestly that feels like not just a superficial reading of andor but a superficial reading of star wars as a whole #the only other show to come anywhere near andor's level was the obi-wan kenobi show #there's tons of visuals that are intended to link back to both the pt and the ot #from obi-wan and leia's costumes to things like the fire obi-wan is burned in and that flashback scene #i'm placing andor above owk still because i think andor takes it an extra level higher but owk is also in that sandbox #owk just got stuck with the fucking volume and the disadvantage of going from a movie to a miniseries #but it did far better with those disadvantages than just about anyone else and still told a VERY star wars style story #the fact that it feels like the prequels is exactly why everyone hated it #and it's exactly why i loved it and think it's the 2nd best thing to come out of star wars since rots #i'll give 3rd place to rebels since it tries once or twice to do some visual and dialogue repetition #but those kinds of things aren't something i see analyzed about rebels all that much tbh #everything else is just fanfic that made a profit #some of it is really BAD fanfic that thinks a cameo is the same as a visual motif. it's not. they suck. stop doing them.

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The Power of Good Writing, Explicit Anti-Fascism, and Hope: Star Wars' Andor

There's a show that I am recommending to everyone and their mother. That show is Andor on Disney Plus. It deserves to be seen, but more importantly, it needs to be seen. It demands to be seen.

For the uninitiated, Andor is the latest in an increasingly large line of Star Wars shows. Some people skipped this show, simply because they didn't care about the titular character, Cassian Andor, rebel spy and secondary character in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016). But I am recommending this to everyone, Star Wars fan or not. I don't care if you've never seen a single Star Wars show. I don't care if you've never seen a Star Wars movie. Watch this show.

Andor is the story of rebellion. How rebellions form, how they survive, and how they succeed. It is about the purity of freedom and the oppression of tyranny. It contains the best writing in Star Wars that I've ever seen, and makes the rest of what Disney Plus has produced look like a steaming pile of garbage (which often, it is). The miracle of a corporate conglomerate producing a powerfully poignant piece of anti-fascism media is something I'm trying to wrap my head around. How did this get made?

Everything in Andor is top-notch. Whether passionate monologues are being delivered or silent, tension-filled moments are holding you in suspension, each moment is engaging and thoughtful. The visuals are crisp - Andor was produced on a real set, and you can see and feel that in the rich tapestry that surround the characters. The CGI that is used enhances everything around you, and immerses you in the characters' reality. There was a scene in Episode 6 that quite literally stole my breath away.

Diego Luna shines as Cassian Andor, a masterclass of subtle acting where the darting of the eyes or an exhaled breath can speak volumes. The other characters in the show - Genevieve O'Reilly as Mon Mothma, Stellan Skarsgård as Luthen, and Adria Arjona as Bix Caleen, just to name a few - deliver their own equally sensational performances as their characters.

It is obvious that so much heart, time, and effort went into this show. Everyone involved put in 110%. That isn't so unusual in media, but in this case, every bit of effort paid off. Each element in every episode wove together as seamlessly as breathing, making you wonder, "Why isn't everything like this?" As each episode ended, I was simultaneously in awe and furious that we could have had this all along. If you want to see what good television looks like, watch Andor.

#andor #star wars #i could have written so much more #literally theres so much i love #the freaking THEMES in this show man #this past episode I was literally HOOKED when all people were doing was walking down a street for five minutes #i cannot get enough of this show #also theres lesbians

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Andor’s prop design, and what it means to “feel like Star Wars” (scroll for pictures!)

I got this comment and wanted to paste my response here because I think it’s a fun thing to think about!

Also!! Keep scrolling for a bunch of screenshots of my favorite props and designs from Andor, along with some surface-level analysis of each picture :)

Here’s the comment:

And here’s my response:

Thanks for bringing these things up because I think there's a lot to think about here!

It's interesting to me to consider where we draw the line when it comes to these things. Star Wars has always had technically impossible anachronisms -- time measured in Earth years, idioms that shouldn't yet exist, etc. I'm not necessarily arguing with you, because in the end this varies person-to-person. I just find it fascinating to think about what is immersion-breaking for some people and what isn't. Why might it be reasonable that they would invent the wheel before us, but not the light bulb, or a container for noodles? To me, the show strikes a good balance between the familiar and the fantastical.

The noodles, for example, take something familiar and modify it slightly to align with the Star Wars sci-fi look. Similarly to blue milk, which is just milk but blue, these are blue noodles, which are just noodles but blue! Even the cup that holds them is different: a unique pentagonal shape with metal screws keeping it together, as opposed to the four-sided box with a handle that we're used to. The show does the same with many of its props, from headphones to neckties. All similar, but different. Occasionally flirting with aspects of our own world without (in my opinion) crossing the line makes the show feel more authentic to me.

I think another thing to consider is that this show, moreso than any other live action Star Wars media before it, places a sizeable emphasis on mundane props and everyday objects: how they feel, how they sound, how they look up close. There's a great video essay by Thomas Flight that I recommend called "Why Andor Feels So Real" that gets into this a bit. I think that a byproduct of this show's fixation on the mundane is that we, the audience, scrutinize these props more heavily, leading to a break in immersion for some people that might not have occurred were these props in the background instead of the foreground. For me, it's a worthy tradeoff; I prefer the grounded worldbuilding and appreciate the detail in the props.

Finally, I encourage finishing the season if you haven't! There's a minor alien character in the first episode that I found charming, and there are some great alien designs later in the season. I agree that aliens aren't a priority in this series and that there's less of them than usual, but they're definitely in the show, and not just in the background! I suspect that the people behind the show are more interested in the intricacies of human performance than they are in the spectacle of animatronics and puppets, but there are still some very creative and convincing creature effects in Andor. Still, it's a very human-centric story, which I don't mind since I love this cast, and we've had human-centric Star Wars stories in the past. This also takes place during a time that the Galaxy is under a human-supremacist dictatorship. I predict that there will be more non-human characters in the second season as we see the rebellion form into something more structured and unified, but this is just speculation.

To me, the show absolutely feels like Star Wars, for reasons I mention in the video, but I don't disagree that the show has left some people feeling differently. Personally, I'd rather have an uncompromising vision than something that attempts to satisfy everyone, and the great thing about Star Wars is that there's room for many different types of stories, and I think this show especially opens the door for that aspect of this universe to really flourish.

And just for fun, here are some pictures of some of my favorite props and creature effects from the show (spoilers ahead):

To me, these little guys are instantly iconic, and I love the way they're introduced. Potty humor? In my serious prestige TV show? It's more likely than you think!

I could post a million fascinating details about Ferrix but the glove wall immediately comes to mind as really impressive worldbuilding. Work gloves are something we've seen in real life, but the way they're all out in the open here demonstrates how tightly-knit this community is. Everybody trusts each other, and everybody knows the routine.

Vetch is a wonderful gentle giant and I hope we see more of him in Season 2. I like the way the show depicts subtle bigotry towards non-humans in the Star Wars universe: Vetch is here because he's a big alien dude, and you can read Nurchi as seeing him as not much more than that. Cassian, on the other hand, seems to understand Vetch's nature better. It makes for a fun dynamic, and a subversion of what we're used to from this type of scene.

Blue noodles! They're blue!! Also, I love the headphones, which fit the retro-futurism of Star Wars very well.

Space coffee mug! It's an interesting shape in that it curves outward near the bottom. The handle is also very high. Nothing too out of the ordinary, but just enough about it is different to make it feel slightly alien.

The way Maarva looks at Cassian's old Kenari weapon to me evokes Obi-Wan looking at Anakin's old lightsaber in A New Hope. The hilt even looks vaguely lightsaber-ish. There are a lot of complicated emotions here.

I really like the look of the communicators the corpos use. Feels very much in line with the production design of A New Hope.

Space razor and space mirror. Love it

These clothes-hangers look very interesting. The way this whole setup fits into Luthen's ship adds to its custom feel -- this thing is decked out. It's a 007 spy car, but in space.

Stims like this have been a thing in Star Wars for a while -- Jedi Fallen Order comes to mind -- but in Andor they're tangible and intimidating. These aren't video game items, they're medical tools. This moment in ep4 where Cinta uses it on Cassian foreshadows the ending of episode 6, when it's used on Nemik to give him his final boost of adrenaline so that he's able save everyone: "Climb!"

The usual Star Wars prop fanservice is recontextualized in Andor as rich people shit. Rich people love to collect shit from cultures they think they care about, and this serves as both a perfect cover for Luthen and a playful jab at easter egg fans.

Space iPad. Love all the little details here, and how it's futuristic yet still feels slightly clunky and analog. The gold and white color scheme has a certain elegance to it, emphasizing that this is a luxury item meant to appeal to the upper class. The ISB use a similar prop with different coloring.

Weird food! You can also see the cereal container in the background.

Space cereal :)

It comes out of this interesting, plastic-looking container. I wonder if the cereal comes packaged in it, or if Eedy stores the cereal in it. I'm assuming the latter; she seems like she would be very organized.

An interesting watch. The glowing hexagon above what is presumably the time is reminiscent of the shape of the prison Cassian will be put in. This six-sided design is a recurring visual motif throughout the show (and the franchise as a whole) wherever the Empire is present.

This guy reminds me of Maz Kanata. It's a really impressive visual effect. Not sure how much of this character is practical and how much is enhanced with CG.

Space necktie and space ID badge. They both use similar clips.

This is a great practical puppet. And what an interesting cup!

Space steno machine. Very analog-feeling. Probably the closest we get in the show to seeing a real-life object in the Star Wars universe, although there still seem to be some subtle differences. The grill above the keys is interesting, I wonder what it's for.

Everything about the prison workstations is meant to feel alienating and overwhelming. Diego Luna's acting sells this really well in their introduction episode, but the props themselves help by looking very harsh and unfriendly. There's also a sterility to this space that reminds me of a hospital operating room. The instruments hanging from the ceiling further invite this comparison.

"Squigs" seem to be little worms that partially dissolve in drinks as part of a Chandrilan custom. Lieda later remarks that they're disgusting, to which Tay retorts that they're supposed to be. Very neat characterization and worldbuilding in just a couple lines. Great stuff!

Happy to see this dude return from Rogue One. Love his design.

The headphones used to torture Bix are terrifying. These could have looked like a torture device, but instead there’s a utilitarian matter-of-factness to them that’s oddly more intimidating. The red light is a simple but nice touch. In Star Wars, red = evil!

A fun blink-and-you'll-miss-it alien design in the lower levels of Coruscant. There are some more aliens in this short sequence, but this is my personal favorite. That the aliens on Coruscant mostly reside here instead of the prettier upper levels show that non-humans are an underclass in this universe. The Empire wants nothing to do with them.

This elevator sequence is entrancing for many reasons but since this post is about prop design, I'll just highlight the little bluetooth earpiece that Lonni finds in it. It's simple but it's neat. It also has a blue light on the inside that you can see as he's putting it in. Sci-fi!

Finally, I love these guys and the way they look. It's nice to see robotic prosthetics be featured in a way that doesn't symbolize loss of humanity (the franchise has an... interesting relationship with that). I also love the gross-looking net that they use to capture Cassian and Melshi. It looks oddly organic, a bit like a big spiderweb.

That's it! There might be more, but this was already getting pretty long. Hope the formatting of this post was ok, I'm new to this website and still getting used to having the ability to post something longer than 280 characters. TL;DR: Andor good

Here's a link to my video about Andor if you're interested:

And here's a link to Thomas Flight's video that I mentioned in my comment:

#andor spoilers #andor #star wars #production design #art direction #props #prop design #Youtube #filmmaking

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1 3 9 16 24 please, whatever Fandoms you feel like talking about

1. the character everyone gets wrong

matt murdock is my choice for this today 💀 i love matt, he is my blorbo, i hate the fandom take on matt. get the words "catholic guilt" out of your mouths, shut up, he's not some defenseless woobie baby that isn't accountable for his own actions, he's a grownass man who's responsible for sabotaging his own life and relationships on the regular, stop blaming elektra and being weird about her when he does ALL this shit himself. i trust very few people to have actual correct takes on matt LMAOOOOO

3. screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr

shoutout to the classic "tony stark is female-coded" that i no longer have a screenshot of but we all remember. what the fuck were you talking about.

9. worst part of canon

ok i already dunked on rise of skywalker last time i did this, so i'm gonna get really controversial: the mcu is the worst thing that ever happened to the gotg and because a lot of bad comics takes came down as a direct response to the mcu? that's the worst part of their canon.

16. you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

literally why do y'all want to woobiefy your blorbos. why. this takes all the teeth out of a character and what makes them interesting. i do not understand and i will never understand!!

24. topic that brings up the most rancid discourse

what doesn't bring up rancid discourse in these fandoms, lol. i'm gonna be biased and say whenever people start comparing rogue one and andor because that discourse tends to annoy me personally the most and ends up with me hating all of you on all sides of it. here's some money, go watch a star war.

chooose violence asks!

#asks #thefaceofthneedinc

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This post contains spoilers for Bad Batch season 2

Mostly a rant

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I'm so tired of the narrative that there can't be a happy ending. Like I understand that happy endings have became a fantasy because it's not 'realistic' and in starwars most endings just have this sense of looming dread. That the good only wins for a while and evil is back again and it goes on.

Now with how the characters are dealt with and the story that gets given to them, if their ending isn't justifiable, it makes me really mad. Like Maul's death, fine I'm ok with that. Jyn Erson and Andor, again I can make peace with it. Obi wan living alone all for the sake of duty and then meeting his end at the hands of his long time best friend, fine I accept. But we had a lot of time with the character, knew them in and out, their struggles, their triumphs and fears.

Some 'deaths' in the star wars story reaaallllyyy impacted me. Like the seconds in which we lose them has caused me anxiety and my mind cannot ever register the fact that they died. That was for Ben Solo's death and as of yesterday, Tech's. I will always be delusional and hold out hope for them to come back. But I've been crying just thinking about yesterday's episode.

So I go on to tik tok and the comments under his edits state it's better of he's dead? That in the end only omega should survive and their lives are fodder for the rebellion? It just makes the rebellion feel like shit to be honest. They all sacrifice their lives. Great. So no heroes, only ghosts. And Luke alone is the saviour and no one else propelled this insanely huge act of getting the universe to defeat the empire because they all die in the process?

I want to see the bad batch and a few others find their happy endings. I want tech to come back and kiss phee this time. I want hunter to see Omega grow up. I want crosshair to get time to sit by the beach with his brothers. I want echo to save the clones and meet up with his old pals. I want wrecker to be a free soul who fishes and plays hide and seek with the kids.

I don't think many understand why the bad batch is so dear to a lot of people. Its the way they are animated and written, we truly interact with them as real people and I think of all the shit we go through in reality, a little happy ending will be nice. I don't care about the rebellion or the empire or anything else. I want the batch to be happy, because that gives me happiness and if for that I'm going to be criticized for being sensitive or be told of that ' they're just characters' so be it.

As someone who pretty much lives alone, the bad batch makes me feel like I'm one of them and they're like my found family. I want them all to be happy.

Dave filoni, please make that happen.

#tech bad batch #the bad batch season 2 #the bad batch series #the bad batch #bad batch #hunter bad batch #echo bad batch #crosshair bad batch #crosshair #wrecker bad batch #tbb omega #tbb theories #tbb s2 #sw tbb #tbb hunter #star wars tbb #tbb #omega bad batch

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Don't Be Quick to Judge the Acolyte (A Star Wars Opinion Piece)

I have always loved Star Wars. Ever since being introduced to the original trilogy as a kid, I have been a massive fan of this legendary sci-fi franchise. From one of my all-time favorites The Clone Wars, to the more recent shows like The Mandalorian, I always get a sense of joy and excitement whenever a new piece of Star Wars media is introduced or announced. Of all the related projects set to come out this year, the one that has intrigued me the most, is the live-action series "The Acolyte". First announced back in 2020, all of the details that I have heard regarding this series I find fascinating. A mystery thriller set during the High Republic Era, with an emphasis on showing the perspective of the Sith and drawing influence from martial arts movies. Some of these details are the things that really drew me towards it. Aside from its main space opera trappings, Star Wars has been known to explore various sub genres, especially in some of their most recent projects. These details alone have me both excited and curious to see what this series will bring to the table.

However, while I wait in anticipation, I noticed that not everyone seems to share the same feelings as me. On the internet, there has been plenty of negative discourse towards the series, mostly towards a few of the casting choices and the creatives involved in the series. It honestly still kind of baffles me as to why people are so quick to be so judgmental on a series that isn't even out yet. I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe we shouldn't be so quick to judge this series.

As someone who has seen a lot of movies and TV shows, I always like to approach everything with an open mind. I don't judge something based on what I want it to be, rather I just take it for what it is, regardless of how it ends up turning out. The same can certainly be said for Star Wars. I've been aware of the discourse surrounding the controversial sequel trilogy. Though I didn't outright hate them like some people did. When I saw each one in the theater, I just took them as they came, paying no mind to the nitpicks or flaws unless some people point them out afterwards.

When it comes to a massive IP such as this one, you're bound to have some people who will dislike or disagree with some of the narrative choices you make. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesn't mean that we should say hateful things just for kicks, nor should we let some people influence how you feel about something. I've heard some people say that there is a fine difference between "good" and "fun". I don't want to name names here, but I will say that even if some parts of Star Wars aren't perfect, it can still be fun to watch. Sometimes there are even parts of Star Wars that are both good and fun, the original trilogy being an obvious example.

Look, if I'm being honest, I don't like trash-talking Star Wars because, at the end of the day, it does still mean a lot to me. Plus, to their credit, some of the newer stuff under Disney have had some hits here and there. The best example I can bring up is Andor, the prequel/spin-off to Rogue One. I remember when it was first announced, people weren't really as enthused about it, some even saying things like "nobody asked for this!". Then, the trailers dropped, and it began to draw people towards it. When the series officially dropped, it turned out to be a big hit with both critics and audiences.

With all that being said, I believe that the same thing might happen with The Acolyte. I have a feeling that the show might surprise us when it drops and turn out to be a hit. Of course, we don't know for sure, but until then, I say we should at least give this one a chance. Let's not be so quick to judge it.

#opinion piece #star wars #the acolyte #the high republic #influneces #mystery thriller #martial arts #diverse cast #negative judgement #creatives #original trilogy #the clone wars #the mandalorian #andor #rogue one

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Mando season 3... sigh. Sadly, I'm beginning to lose interest. The story seems disjointed, and the production value feels like it's diminished in quality.

I'm having difficulty suspending my belief. For example, the location of the covert. It looks like they're in the middle of nowhere. There are dangerous beasts all over the place, so why are they still there? Why did they save those baby monsters if they're only going to turn into more dangerous predators? It looks like no one has a ship, so how are they getting supplies? Where are they getting gas to fire forge? Practicalities like these are knocking me out of the narrative.

Also, the fact that Favreau said there's no end in site concerns me because shows seem to lose quality over time when there isn't a plan. The words "jump the shark" come to mind.

I'll keep watching, but I miss being excited for a new episode to drop each week. In fact, I haven't watched the latest episode and am in no hurry to do so.

Hi Michelle!! 😀 I was so happy to see you pop up in my inbox! I hope you’re doing well, lovely!! Thanks for swinging by with this!!

I’m sorry that you’re not enjoying this season as much as the previous ones. It seems like you’re not alone - I have seen quite a few people expressing less than favorable opinions on what’s going on with s3 - but that’s still unfortunate, and I hope that the remaining episodes give you and others more to enjoy about it!

That being said, I’m actually really liking this season so far, which probably (maybe?) isn’t what you were expecting me to say, but here we are. 🤷🏻‍♀️

But let’s talk about the things you brought up. Going under the cut to avoid spoilers for anyone who doesn’t want to see them:

I’m gonna start by saying that I do agree that the production value feels a little diminished. I’m wondering if it’s because of bigger budgets on other SW shows (I’m thinking Andor & Ahsoka- which I have HIGH hopes for), and them banking on the fact that the Mandalorian series already has a large fan base. It doesn’t feel (to me at least) as diminished as the production value of BOBF felt (that low speed chase on 50s era mopeds was … a choice), but I’ll agree that it feels like a half step down from seasons 1 & 2.

The only thing I personally have had a hard time with as far as the storytelling/disjointedness goes, was the way that the Pershing episode was structured. It was 5 minutes of Din/Bo/Grogu, and then a whole chunk of Pershing and the least trustworthy character in all of star wars, and then another 6 minutes of Din/Bo/Grogu. I didn't hate that we got some info on what was going on on that side of things - I have theories about where they're going with Elia Kane and all of that, and they were strengthened by some details in the latest episode - but I wish they had structured the storytelling differently by sort of breaking it up and sprinkling it into the rest of the episodes.

As far as the covert being in the middle of nowhere goes, it’s entirely possible that at least one other Mando has a ship, and it’s hidden. I always assumed that their tunnels and caves on Nevarro were more expansive than what we ever actually saw - Din at one point says he’s not familiar with a certain section of them, which made me think they were LARGE and possibly even connected to other tunnels where a ship (or ships) that belongs to the covert might be kept for emergencies or just to use when needed. I also recall a line (when the covert was on Nevarro) about how living in the shadows means only one can go out at a time for secrecy and safety, and that made me think that it’s not just Din who comes and goes off world, that others do, too if or when they need to. It’s also possible that they had a pre-arranged backup plan, so they didn't all need to leave Nevarro together, they just had to find a way there even if it wasn't right away. But again this is all just what my brain came up with throughout the series, so I have no idea if it’s canonically correct.

The fact that there are so many dangerous beasts on that planet was probably one of the things that made it a desirable hideout - because no one in their right mind would try to settle Dino World, but Mandalorians aren't in their right minds so I get why they chose it from that perspective.

THE BABY MONSTERS!!!! Can I tell you that as soon as the mama went down I gasped and said "but the babies will die now!" And then as soon as they turned up back at the covert I was filled with relief like "oh, nevermind, they're going to be loved and cared for!" I love that they were "adopted" by the Mandalorians. For one, raising them from hatchlings will allow them to bond with the lil beasts and possibly even rely on them for battle backup like Boba did with the Rancor. Also? I just love the reiteration of how important adoption is to Mandalorians. It's a part of their belief system that they take care of any children that need taking care of, no matter who or what their parents were. "Mandalorian isn't a race, it's a Creed" extends even to beasties and I just think that's very sweet coming from a group of tin cans. (idk what the beasts are called. I've been calling them pterodactyls to fit the Dino World theme - I've seen articles and posts where people are calling them shriek hawks, but I'm pretty sure shriek hawks are smaller and have feeyethers. I could be wrong about that, though!)

*thanks, Dieter*

The "no end in sight" is admittedly concerning, but I'm choosing to believe they won't let it go beyond where it needs to. Depending on where this season ends, I think it could probably go one more. With all the tie-ins from the Clone Wars & Rebels series (which honestly, I know animation isn't everyone's jam, but Rebels was truly great, and there is a LOT of Mandalorian lore and history in that show, including stuff pertaining to the Darksaber, Bo-Katan, and Clan Vizsla, so if you're ever looking for something to watch I recommend it, or at least the episodes that concern Mandalore) that have been popping up, I'm hoping that Filoni will take good care of the rest of this story. My fingers are crossed.

I hope that you do keep watching, and I hope that you do find things to enjoy about it as it continues! I'm very much looking forward to the next episode.

Thank you again for dropping in! I know my response was probably different from what you were expecting, so I hope that's okay!

#thanks michelle! #cannedsoupsucks #cannedsoupsucks is an absolute gem #the mandalorian #the mandalorian season 3 #mando season 3 #the mandalorian spoilers #mando spoilers #din djarin #grogu djarin #bo katan kryze #the beasts! #my hot take is that i am enjoying this season #though i do acknowledge that it feels a little different than the first two #thank you for asking! #ask me anything

[jyndor]

I think you conveyed my point better than I did. I expected Andor would be tough to watch if it was going to tackle serious issues. What I didn't expect was Bix not being an "active participant" in the show. Like you said, she is treated like a punching bag. Even if Bix gets to fight back in future episodes it will still mean she spent most of the time suffering in different ways. Same for Cassian. Rogue One doesn't spend half the movie showing Jyn being in Wobani. The Force Awakens doesn't fill Poe's screen time with his torture.

Andor is educating through shock value, which seems to be working for some viewers. It doesn't for me. I think there are others like me who wanted to be inspired by representation in a Star Wars story and instead are watching their representation be treated like punching bags. Which is different from people who don't like the show's message. The type of suffering is not surprising. The amount of it is. I think it's too much and that they could convey the same message with less. This makes the show a hopeless slog to watch at some points.

I don't understand why other people aren't sympathetic. Is nobody else upset with how horribly Bix has been treated compared to any other female lead? Even if people don't agree, they should at least be respectful. Thankfully you have been which is why I'm writing this in the first place.

I want to second the other anon that was excited for Bix and Cassian. I understand what you meant but I thought the tension in their relationship would come from the plot. Now it seems they are simply terrible for each other. Like you said the show would be a lot better if Cassian was younger. Watching an adult man try to pay off his debts while the woman marketed as his romance gets tortured was not what I signed up for. Even if Cassian turns out to have been a rebel this whole time like you said, it's too late. -- Bix anon

Anon I cannot possibly be saying my point correctly because no one understands that I get the point of what the show is saying but that I struggle with WHY the WRITERS decided to GO IN THIS DIRECTION lol like I do not know how I can put it any other way besides they're doing what they've decided to do very, very well but I don't get why they made some of the decisions they did.

I think what I'm hearing from some people is that they feel validated by seeing the realities of fascism and white supremacy in the treatment of these characters. I cannot speak to that and I feel uncomfortable even pushing back when someone says that because like... yeah it's never going to be my experience.

I personally don't agree that it is using shock value to educate, but I understand why you feel that way. To me most of the show has actually not been gratuitous - it's served a narrative purpose and wasn't just there to get eyesballs on them or like idk to make people gasp. but there are some choices that make me think there needs to be some more voices in the writer's room (Clem's execution for instance is one that I'm sorry it just doesn't sit well with me.) Like shock value for shock value's sake is the og Game of Thrones to me, but also what is and what isn't gratuitous is very personal. It's literally you know it when you see it. Everyone will have different standards.

And that's very important for you to decide. Is it too much for you? It may be. That's disappointing as hell but I don't think there's anything wrong with people who are too close to the issues they're talking about needing to step back and not engage with the show.

I've seen much worse examples of torture porn but I cannot deny that Bix's passivity is something I don't like as a literary choice - not as a realistic thing or unrealistic thing. Maybe if the show has these characters take on serious leadership positions (we know Cassian will be a captain at some point so I'm not worried about him rn even if I am disappointed) in rebel cells that will help? I didn't have high hopes or really much feeling about how their relationship would go because they called them on and off and I just hate on and off relationships LOL.

I do think it's telling that the show has handled most of the women characters so nicely but Bix has been treated like a punching bag. It does feel odd, but I don't even hate them having an angel of death kind of Mengele character, like I think that's important! but idk it felt a little unnecessary to see her being tortured - the aftermath would have been enough imo. THAT felt like the most gratuitous moment in the show.

Not for nothing, I want to flag something because I don't know that I would be as concerned about how passive a character (as opposed to dynamic, again, not in a political sense I'm talking academically in a literary sense rn) Jyn is also very passive in her own story. Things happen to her - in the film she is abandoned by her parents, picked up by saw, trained and raised as saw's daughter and a partisan rebel, abandoned by saw, is in prison, is broken out of prison, is put on a rebel mission with Cassian, and is given Galen's message by Saw - ACTIVE MOMENT she goes to try to save her father and then gives her message to the rebel council - and then she is given an army by Cassian, we don't even see her planning the Scarif attack or anything. She is pushed along by the actions of others with a few exceptions. I think part of that is a result of the reshoots - which Tony Gilroy did so much of that he is credited as screenwriter of Rogue One. He did not write the screenplay, he did a LOT of the reshoots so he changed the story enough to have that credit (it's a union thing iirc). I don't know where it happened but somewhere Jyn sort of lost a lot of spark (as well as a lot of dialogue).

I want to flag that not because I think like Gilroy is some misogynistic demon lol and I think he's done a great job with the politics of the show for the most part. but I don't want to ignore the feeling I have that Gilroy has some blindspots and women may be one of them.

the funny thing is that I am actually loving the show and I don't know how else to say it. I don't know that I'm being clear, and I feel like I'm just repeating myself over and over again at this point and it's a little aggravating tbh because I just feel like I must not be saying my feelings clearly.

#andor spoilers #star wars andor #fandom critical #racism #imperialism #fascism #torture #meta #answered #asks #anonymous

[clonehub]

Episode 15 of the bad batch

The pacing of this show is insane what do you mean this is the penultimate episode and you actually haven't moved the needle on characterization in any significant direction. What do you mean world building has progressed an inch. They had the chain codes but those appear in other parts of star wars. This is episode FIFTEEN. Episode 13 was a waste imo. The writers for tbb gotta get in touch w the writers for Andor and arcane bc this pacing is not it

Damn not Gregor gotta chill w cid

Why are my subtitles only half working

I think this character (the Black woman) lives. I hope so.

Okay I wonder how omega knows about this landing platform if she's never left Kamino. They might reveal it soon tho

Are there other cities in Kamino I wonder

Okay Nala se told her

Wonder where they put all the regular clones.

"the empire will be phasing out clones next" "not the ones that matter" again Crosshair really does think he's above the regs and I know this is obvious to anyone who has eyes but like this fear of a) not having his power/prowess affirmed by the state and b) his being relegated to the same position as the regs he derides so much is whats fueling. Is there love for his brothers? Probably yeah. Is crosshair ultimately a very selfish person who'll pick ego over family? Yeah. Also any instance of the batch hating on the regular clones looks racist soz

Also sidebar bc it's getting on my nerves but deliberate changes to something cannot make that thing defective. Omegas not defective if the Kaminoans specifically made her the way they did on purpose like huh. Having special skills isn't defective AGAIN they'd have to have their ability to perform or their health impeded in some way in order to do that. How the hell is being a genius or really strong a defect who tf thinks like that 😭

Crosshair ain't even being fair here this is so funny. "We didn't have a choice but to leave you because you were trying to kill and us specifically targeting a child" and he's like. Well I didn't have a choice either. And it's like yeah the chips but again you did say "aim for the kid" like were they supposed to stand there?? And let you kill them and the BABY? TBB wanting to live trumps crosshair feeling abandoned sorrryyyy

She's dry now

"your MUTATIONS were ENHANCED in this room" methinks the writers just. Keep flipping back and forth on what they want tbb to be depending on the mood they're going for

I wonder how old omega was when she saw tbb being created

Again with the I in the name but nobody says AZI it's just AZ

Hunters eyes annoy the shit out of me why can't the animators pick a color

An interesting conflict between hunter and crosshair would have been their strategizing skills, like if it's clear that crosshair is as good as or even better than hunter in terms of planning and execution, that could be something they'd butt heads about before the chips and O66 were even a thing

Echo's ARC training would ideally be kicking in now

I'm surprised they don't have more weapons

"we're running out of time commander" this man's voice

Not crosshair saying he'd be justified in killing them fbsndnmsdns

"you weren't loyal to me" again. You Tried to Kill Them. including the Kid.

And the use of loyal from him feels to me more like how someone in power expects loyalty, not how equals expect it

"we're not like the regs. We never have been. We're superior" die. die!

This is one of those lines that gets approved bc not a single person in the story telling process was like paying attention at all to what they were writing and they have like no clue of their own context for their series.

But anyways crosshair thinks caring about other people is something those mean gross """regs""" do. He wants tbb together but does he really want to take care of them? Does he want them to take care of him? No. He wants power. Hence why even w the chip out he stayed w the empire.

"think of all we could do" "the empire can't protect the galaxy without strength" "this is what we were made for" he's a fascist idk why ppl still try to argue about this

Kinda weird he actually believes in the ability of the empires protection

You know what else this is? All these TK troopers were PoC and now they're nearly all dead

God he's just. So fascist he's SUCH a fascist. "Don't become my enemy" like goddamn

The theme will NEVER FIT IN it's always such a punch to the face

These droids seem tougher than what the clones actually have to fight in the war

This is like the only part of the series that has emotional depth, when they fire on Kamino.

This delivery 🥴

See this would be more sad if I felt the bad batch earned any of the emotional pay out they're expecting. The destruction of tipoca city is huge. As evil as the kaminoans are, this is also an entire people that's been displaced (depending on if there are other cities on Kamino w other populations)

Anyways this is the kind of conflict that we should have been steadily fed from the beginning.

#ch posts #tbb rewatch

[caroldanversinatardis]

Thoughts on Ahsoka

For context, I've seen all of Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, Andor, Kenobi, Episodes I-IX, The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Rogue One, Tales of the Jedi, and Visions 1-2. I've read the new Vader comics, but my knowledge of Legends lore is limited at best. Clone Wars is my favorite piece of Star Wars material. Ahsoka has ALWAYS been my favorite character since she came to the screen in 2008 and I was a small mammal of 8 years old, mostly because of how much I saw myself and who I wanted to be in her. I still do. I am excited for the show, a little apprehensive, and overall hopeful to see more new Star Wars content.

Thoughts on Ahsoka so far (spoilers ahead):

This is definitely Rebels part 2, and that's not a bad thing! Don't expect Clone Wars (maybe not yet at least?). There's some awesome cameos from Rebels!

The longer montrals was a good call. I like the casting of Rosario Dawson for Ahsoka.

Right off the bat with classic shots from Episode IV and V?? BEAUTIFUL.

What happened to Ahsoka's reverse grip?!!

I thought I would not vibe with Sabine's actor but she is quickly becoming my favorite. She has the most accurate transition from animated to live action character so far. I like her a lot.

The return of Huyang!! Him and Sabine are quickly becoming my new favorite pair on screen. David Tennant in Star Wars is great.

Loth cats are cute, still not cuter than Grogu. I like the puppetry skills on the Loth cat. Good fluffy addition. Now add Loth Wolves 😁

CHOPPER 🤩 I LOVE THIS STUPID MURDER BOT EVEN MORE IN LIVE ACTION

Hera and Ahsoka feel very different on screen live action than animated, but still are great!

WHY. CAN. EVERYONE. ELSE. WALK. AWAY. FROM. LIGHTSABER. TO. THE. GUT. This is absurd. Either bring back Qui-Gon, Han Solo, and Satine, or kill Sabine. Star Wars needs to be consistent on its wounds.

NIGHTSISTERS!! I want my witches!!!

I am liking the dynamic of "I was a Jedi" going on among the Force users. The galaxy of the New Republic lacks a clear dichotomy between good and bad. Maybe this whole show will be about how people exist in between the two.

I am SO EXCITED for the World Between Worlds connection! I have been waiting for more about this for ages!!

2 GALAXIES??? Are we breaking away from "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away?" Also, isn't the Deneb system....just...Deneb the star in Cygnus? I have astronomy questions!

Did we get ANOTHER Inquisitor?!?!

Sabine is the FIRST MANDALORIAN JEDI since Tarre Viszla?!?!!! I was REALLY unsure from the trailers what the heck was going on with her character whether or not she was all of a sudden going to become a Force user, but I'm not opposed to it so far. What is the extent of Sabine's Force-sensitivity? Will she be a Padawan with little to no Force skills? I want to see her on a jetpack with a lightsaber and slicing away at droids.

Sabine is a genius in art and tech and a badass fighter. Hera is a genius in flying and mechanics and a badass fighter. Two geniuses, two amazing people. 😁

Go give the show a chance. I'm happy so far seeing my favorite in live action.

#ahsoka tano #star wars #ahsoka show #thoughts

[makiruz]

So I watched the first 3 episodes of Andor and what I have to say is that the tone is weird; not bad, weird

Something doesn't feel right about this whole thing and I suspect that it's that it doesn't really feel like Star Wars. It's hard to explain what it is, my brother says is that it has the tone of cyberpunk, and that might be it, Andor feels too realistic. What I mean is that Star Wars is in reality fantasy, but Andor feels like science fiction, feels too down to earth, too much like an extrapolation of the real world, rather than a fantastical world.

This isn't to say the show is bad, it's good actually; I can see why people like it, it's more serious, which is what Star Wars fans want, but I don't think it's really Star Wars. There are aliens, despite what I'd been led to believe, but so far they have been extras, no significant character has been an alien; and there's no spirituality, which you might think is silly but spirituality is an integral part of Star Wars.

Also some story choices are weird, first off Andor's background; he comes from a tribal non-industrialized culture, but he's human; in Star Wars this kind of tribal people tend to be aliens, while humans represent the West, no everyone is the same of course, but a human group that doesn't speak basic? How did that happen? How did that people get there? In Star Wars lore there's the implication that in the past Humans expanded from their unknown homeplanet (sometimes believed to be Coruscant) into the rest of the Galaxy and with time evolved into different cultures; I suppose Kenari might have been isolated for a long time and that's why they developed their own unique tribal culture, but that just feels weird in this universe, again, this sort of people are usually aliens.

Second I don't get why would that guy would travel all the way to Ferrix to recruit Andor into the Rebellion; what's so special about Andor? He doesn't have the Force, he's not a former Imperial officer, he doesn't have a special McGuffin, he's a completely ordinary person, there's nothing about him worthy of the special attention. And if you want to say, "that's how the Rebellion operates" no it isn't; we've seen how the Rebellion recruits people: they're unhappy with the Empire, something push them off the edge, some Rebels are there, they join them; sending someone to pick up someone else needs a reason: they have specialized skills, they want to join the Rebellion but they can't leave their current location on their own, they have information; the Rebels don't go after random normal people in a different planet who don't want to join the Rebellion in the first place; when they're insistent is when the reluctant person is there, next to them and often partially involved in the Rebellion already. This scenario feels all wrong

Next the first two episodes are too long, it should've been only one episode leading to the confrontation in Ferrix

But I will say that I really like the cops; those guys are absolute clowns, they're all acting like they're going to war to protect the Universe when they're only going to pick up some guy. That part IS very Star Wars, I love it (uniforms could've been better though)

Final verdict of the first 3 episodes: This feels like a cool sci fi show, but not Star Wars; the problems I have (besides pacing) wouldn't exist if the show was original and was creating new rules; within Star Wars it feels weird and wrong

#Andor #Star Wars #my post

[kanansdume]

I've seen a lot of discussion on why Andor DOESN'T feel like Star Wars up until this point, why that's good or bad or what have you, why it's unique and different and special, but I want to talk about why Andor DOES feel like Star Wars still to me.

Cassian wants to save everyone, he wants to just be able to find some small place he can lay low and live a normal life with his mother, wherever that may be and whatever it takes to achieve it. He doesn't truly want anything fundamental about his life to change (for example, he's willing to move off of Ferrix but he wants to take Maarva with him). But what he's not willing to accept that that life is no longer possible. The Empire is here already, it's not going away, and it'll never let him live a normal life. Even if he WEREN'T being actively hunted, the Empire won't let him live a normal life the way he wants. It doesn't matter how far he runs, what name he chooses, what clothes he wears, the life he wants isn't going to happen.

When he tries to get Maarva to run away with him, to ignore her failing health and dismiss her growing desires to fight the Imperial presence on Ferrix, Maarva tells him that his inability to stop worrying over her is just love, and nothing he can do about that. The love isn't the problem, it never was. She's not trying to get him to stop caring about her, just to convince him to accept her choice and let go, to accept that things are changing, including their relationship to each other.

And Cassian leaves. But when he does, he hasn't fully accepted Maarva's choice. He doesn't understand it until he lands in Narkina 5 and starts to feel what she's been feeling and then tries to talk to her and she's already gone. He goes back to Ferrix, hears her final words, and the last time we hear him speak about Maarva is when he sees Bix for the first time after she's been tortured.

Bix: Maarva was here. Cassian: Wasn't she great?

He's let go. He's accepted Maarva's fate, her choice, and made his peace with that loss, knowing there was nothing he could do about it, knowing that nothing he could've done would've changed this outcome. And only once Cassian has truly let go of Maarva and his past is he truly able to step into the role we all know he will take up. Only then can he go to Luthen and ask to be taken into the Rebellion. It's perhaps not the life he WANTS, but it is the life available to him. He either spends the rest of his life being hunted, or he turns around and becomes the hunter himself, even if it means sacrificing a life with the people he loves. He chooses to protect those he loves, to fight for their ability to live in peace, even when it requires giving up his own.

In The Phantom Menace, Anakin is offered a choice to follow his dream, but it requires leaving his planet and his mother behind. He ultimately makes the choice to leave, but we see throughout the rest of his storyline that he's never managed to let go of the desire to have the life he WANTS, a life with Shmi still in it, a life where he gets to have his cake and eat it too. He didn't want the fundamentals of his life to change, but he also wanted to be a Jedi and never quite accepted what that was going to mean.

This inability to let go of his past, to let go of the fantasy life he dreamt up for himself, ultimately has a cascading effect of instability and darkness on his life. Because he loses Shmi anyway, despite everything he has now learned, he loses the one thing he truly wants in his life. And that loss, that inability to keep change from happening, causes him to cling even more to what he has, it makes him incapable of letting go of anything or anyone that he has deemed fundamental to his life now.

Cassian's ultimate ability to recognize that he has to accept change, that his worry for the people he loves is part and parcel of loving people, allows him to rise.

Anakin's inability to recognize any of this forces him to fall, and he brings the entire galaxy down with him.

Much like Anakin, Cassian's major arc in this show was about LETTING GO. He had to learn to accept the world as it was, how to accept himself and the people he loved as they are, and only then could he move forward to become the revolutionary rebel we always knew him to be.

Cassian is morally gray, yes. He kills people pretty quickly, he's not always compassionate, he can be selfish and unkind. But he still lives by the rules that govern the Star Wars universe, and so he cannot become a hero until he learns these specific lessons

We're getting the same basic message about attachment, letting go, and accepting change as we've always gotten in Star Wars. This is the same message we got through Luke and Anakin, the same theme we saw explored in the recent Obi-Wan Kenobi show, the same concept we saw brought up a few times in places like Rebels and The Clone Wars.

Andor is looking at the world of Star Wars through a very specific lens that we haven't looked at it through before, and it brings a lot of wonderful new things to light about this world, but it also stays true to the ultimate message of Star Wars, and that's what made it feel so incredibly special to me.

#star wars #andor #star wars andor #andor show #andor series #sw andor #cassian andor #anakin skywalker

[trashquisitor-shirozora]

4AM thoughts while I decide if I should sleep on this chapter and then post, or post the chapter and then sleep (better sleep on it first and then do a final read before post):

was a reason ever given for the NR's bizarre attempt at Operation Paperclip? becuase I was watching this short podcast ep talking about sarin nerve gas and the host brought up the Cold War being the rationale for Operation Paperclip, and I didn't see any episode reactions speculating on whether or not there was a threat that necessitated rehabbing ex-Imps. I saw reactions talking about how the NR rehabbed Imps while also destroying their tech? huh? so the NR was doing Operation Paperclip out of the goodness of their hearts? I mean, I guess??? personally, I would've thrown them all into a floating prison because fuck 'em but I'm not the one who destroyed the NR in the Sequel Trilogy in a shitty attempt to recreate the conditions that set up ANH, what the fuck do I know?

HEAR ME OUT. my brain connected some dots. it's just me and my personal experiences with the Captain America movies, which were what really got me going in the MCU for a while but listen

I keep thinking about the speculations about what will happen in Season 3 and all the fics and arts and headcanons people spun for 2 years, and what is actually happening on Season 3, and it feels so much like what people were writing and drawing and headcanoning post-CATWS and what actually fucking happened (AoU, CACW, the Infinity Saga). I'm not just talking about the shipping, btw. I am very much talking about Din's journey throughout the first 2 seasons and the gravity of the end of Season 2..... and how it turned into a fucking joke. It was such a fucking letdown. I feel like a fucking clown for thinking Favloni (and Favreau especially) would actually do something meaningful with it.

I refuse to watch CACW out of principle and the Infinity Saga also out of principle. Wiki the summaries? Haven't done that. Everything I know I got from gifs and posts. I know straight up fuck all about the plots of these movies, but I know enough about how Steve Rogers' story ends and boy was that a disappointment. I get why his story ended, but how it ended sounds like a fucking spice dream. Of all the things, that's the ending they chose? lol k

to all the people claiming that 3rd episode was Mando's "Andor episode", no it fucking wasn't. it sounds like a fart of an attempt at a political/world-building episode with none of Andor's dedication to understanding what the fuck they're doing. maybe they had no choice but to set up the NR as corrupt, useless, incompetent, unable to outlast the Empire! maybe it's meant to mimic the more recent post-WWII/Cold War histories (I won't speculate here because I'm not well-versed in this department), but this coming on the heels of Andor... what the hell kind of sunrise was the Rebellion fightting for? are we really saying the Rebellion was fighting for a filler republic that Disney will burn away to make a better, cooler government run by..... who the fuck knows? nobody wants to do the hard job of building and rebuilding after a war. might as well just wait another 40 years for another Empire wannabe to blow up an entire star system and reboot the conflict for the next generation I guess????

no this season isn't going the way I expected because i wanted more out of Din. but honestly, it was the attempt to bring back IG-11 that turned me off the whole thing. fucking disgusting. let things die, favloni. they deserve to rest.

#i'll post the staircase fic update when i wake up i guess #my opinions only don't @ me

[supernovaa-remnant]

yay, i get to be immortalized too :D

but oh my god, the marks people leave behind, i say as i shake you violently. another thing i lose my mind over when i think about it for too long.

because you are so right, it's not only about the ones that outlive us like buildings or art or whatever. like, for example, i still think about one of my ex-friends sometimes. we've known each other for years, did so many things together, but then shit happened and now we haven't talked or even seen each other in like four years. but i still remember her and the fun we had together so fondly.

and to think that's it the other way around too, that maybe the barista i once told i liked their pin still thinks about that sometimes and smiles at the memory like... it's fucking mind-blowing.

anyway, i'll stop now, or i'll be in danger of crying too.

okay, closing the chapter on interstellar... i'm gonna admit, asking me, a movie and tv show freak, about media was the worst (or best, depending on how you wanna look at it lol) decision ever, because i will give you a whole fucking list with reasons.

first of all, i know you like star trek so i hate to admit that i'm the enemy... i'm a star wars girlie.

jokes aside, i do love star wars, especially the original movies, rogue one (probably one of my favorite movies, mention it in my vicinity and i will talk for at least 30 minutes), and andor (the show). i just think that, excluding the last two movies, it's an amazing universe and a lot of the media that came from it is really fucking good. i adore it.

other sci-fi/sci-fi adjacent stuff i like:

ready player one (mostly the movie lol dives into virtual reality and it's influence on real life in the future, really fun and well-made)

dark (german show though from what i know it also got really popular on netflix. a lot of stuff i think you could like, since it's central storyline centers around time travel via wormhole lol actually one of my favorite shows ever, it is so insanely good)

roswell, new mexico (silly alien show lol not that serious compared to some other stuff here but it's fun and the plotline actually is pretty interesting)

the swarm (another german show though it is made in english. this is the adjacent i mentioned above since i think it's not 100% sci-fi but has a lot of elements to it. set on earth in our time with marine life slowly turning against humanity. another show that's super well made)

and that's everything i can think of right now (as if this ask isn't long enough already). please let me know if you decide to check any of these out because i need someone to talk about it with lol

there's a lot of aspects of humanity that make me emotional—the way we impact each other's lives in seemingly unnoticeable ways, the urge to leave proof we existed (the Golden Record we sent to space that will still be there floating in the void long after the Earth has been swallowed by the sun), the fact that we've found new ways to love (because we didn't use to be able to know so much about people across the globe, but now, in this age of globalization, it's lead to people finding new ways to love). there's so much and I would go on longer and in more depth if I didn't feel like I was about to cry lol (please do ask me to elaborate more though if you want—I'd gladly talk more about this with more prompting lol).

I think it's been lovely to hear you talk about media and cinematography :D I love it when people talk abt stuff they're passionate about

[dramatic gasp] a star wars girlie? I'm sorry sky... I fear we can no longer be friends [single tear runs down cheek as I turn away and dramatically leave the room]

uh.. anyway, jokes aside, I think Star Wars is pretty cool. I watched it more when I was younger. Idk why, but it doesn't appeal to me as much as other sci-fi. Just personal preference, I think. I did really like the original movies, though. (Although I must admit I don't remember them well... maybe I should re-watch).

Star Trek is the sci-fi I've been primarily consuming for the past couple years, and I am a Star Trek girlie (ignore the fact that I haven't watched the original series), but deep down in my core, I'm more of a Stargate girlie. Samantha Carter is the character who inspired me to be an astrophysicist, and the characters in that show (specifically Sg-1) feel like they raised me in some ways lmao. There's a lot to be said on the more problematic aspects of Stargate (the most noticeable being the fact that it's built upon the ancient aliens conspiracy.. yikes), but I think there's a lot to love about it despite that :3

I'm a big fan of 90s-early 2000s sci-fi (probably bc of my dad tbh) which includes, like, tng-ds9-voy era of star trek, stargate, sacntuary, and farscape to name a fwew. First sci-fi I was ever a really big fan of was Doctor Who though.

Uh, but enough about my sci-fi interests.

Those all sound like really cool shows!! I'll say it now that I am, like, notoriously bad at watching recommended shows (esp bc I'm busy w/ uni and stuff), so apologies in advance if I don't get to them. I'd love to hear you talk more about them though and what you like about the shows (whether that be storytelling, cinematography, both). If you want to, ofc.

#this response would be longer #but I thought too hard abt the interconnectedness of everything #and got emotional #so now I think I'm gonna wrap up lol #stella answers #sky cdreambur #actually I think I will elaborate on some points at some time tomorrow #but now is eepy time

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the star wars penis headcanon masterlist (by popular demand apparently)

baz: the word that springs to mind is staunch. i'm thinking stocky. yes. he's got a stocky dick.

chewbacca: not that you'd know because his hair is so long and soft and smooth, but it's hiding a really ginormous dick. like easily the biggest in all of star wars. chewie's very humble about it tho. he's had a rough life and doesn't need to get into pissing contests with people. let the wookiee live.

finn: finn strikes me as a shower not a grower, and he's got nothing to be ashamed of in terms of what he has to show. tbh i'd argue probably the most aesthetically pleasing dick in all of star wars. like good proportion to the rest of his torso.

ackbar, gial: his is probably like the fish creature in the shape of water where it's like hidden and only pops out when he's gettin' ready to get down.

andor, cassian: i feel like it's pretty average sized, gets the job done well and fills you up nicely. i get the feeling that it's one of the ones that really shows the bloodflow?

antilles, wedge: wedge wedge darling wedge. i don't think his penis is very big. i don't think he cares though bc his concern is bringing the empire down which is probably the right way to handle the toxic masculinity surrounding conversations of penis size.

binks, jar jar: let's be clear about one thing--you all kept bringing up jar jar. i didn't ask for this, you did. so, without further ado--jar jar is probably the most capable of pleasuring his partner of any character in the star wars canon. 1) have you seen that tongue? dicks are great and all (and i'll get to his in a second) but we /all/ know that tongues are where it's at and jar jar's is long and strong. 2) he has a huge dick. like not so big that it's terrifying to fuck, but just the right size that it'll do you right for hours on end. so there we have it, kids. jar jar binks: the cassa nova of star wars.

calrissian, lando: ok this isn't dick-size related, but we all know that lando has the best groomed pubes of anyone ever. like it's stylin'. his dick ain't bad. not bad at all, but it's the pubes that make him stand out.

dameron, poe: slightly above average length when erect--a grower not a shower.

dooku, count: a full 8 inches. bet you didn't want to know that. too bad.

erso, galen: p nondescript tbh

fett, boba: has like a mirror image dick of his dad's.

fett, jango: huge and veiny. like almost disconcertingly veiny.

fortuna, bib: you know that weird thing that extends from his head and sort of wraps around his neck before disappearing into his robe? that's actually his penis. why are you booing me i'm right?

gerrera, saw: solid 8 inches but not super thick.

hutt, jabba the: people have been telling me that in legends, they say that hutts are hermaphroditic and can fuck themselves. i personally think that jabba *is* the penis. choose your own adventure, dear reader.

hux, armitage: long, but thin. i don't really think he's good at using it, tbh, bc he's def not a giving lover. so even if he's proud of his length he's got a lot of work to cover.

imwe, chirrut: pretty average sized but oh boy does he know how to use it. like his force sensitivity is a major boon to him.

jinn, qui-gon: qui-gon's dick is massive. like bigger than just about any other human's on this list i think, though not as big as chewie's.

kenobi, obi wan: obi wan gets the most giving and communicative lover in all of star wars award. his dick is pretty average--like probably on the small side--but oh man do you not notice that if you're in the sack with him holy fucking shit.

krennic, orson: ok so true story. krennic's dick is disconcertingly similar to anakin's pre-mustafar. that might be why they butt heads as much as they do. no one will ever really know.

lars, owen: owen's got a short dick, but it's pretty thick. idk why but the phrase "typical uncle dick" is coming to mind but it is.

maul, darth: red and black and has tiny tiny thorns. i'm also gonna throw it out there that maul's dick, like the rest of him, is highly flexible.

needa, lorth: short dick. real short dick.

organa, bail: let's just say breha's a lucky woman because her man has a decently sized penis but also is nearly at obi wan levels of giving-ness.

palpatine, sheev: lmao it's like a shriveled worm after his showdown with mace windu.

panaka, quarsh: a good 9 inches.

piett, firmus: solid 7.5 inches. good circumference. is subtle about that.

rook, bodhi: long and not toooo thick but not toooo thin.

skywalker, anakin: lbr here, his dick was probably pretty good. like average goodness. not too big not too small, not too thick not too thin. a balance in the force if you will. it also probz got burned off on mustafar. (i swear it's not actually conical.)

skywalker, luke: luke's dick is 💯💯💯, but most importantly, he comes from the obi wan school of being a very giving lover and so not only is he blessed with a 💯💯💯 dick, but he's using it the way dicks were meant to be used.

solo, ben: ben solo is the tallest and thiccest human in the star wars series; his dick is proportional to the rest of his body.

solo, han: good and girthy. not the longest in the universe but good solid girth work there.

tarkin, wilhuff: tarkin's dick is tiny.

veers, maximillian: if i had to pick some empire dick to ride it'd probably be veers', tbh. thick, long, doesn't get too disconcertingly colored when erect. not too shabby all around not too shabby.

windu, mace: good and long and thick. like his lighsaber, it purples when it's activated.

yoda: listen all of yoda is small, so let's not make a "he's got a small dick" joke because that's just cheap. it's. just. cheap. his dick is proportional to the rest of him, and for his species that's doing pretty good. you've seen the dude fight with a lightsaber--do you really think he's not capable of workin' it?

#dickscourse #jeeno2 #lareinecersei #ariannenymerosmartell #spacedarcy #thank you for making sure i remained on brand no matter the fandom #god help me

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Now that Andor has finished, I'm starting to see more of an influx of negative opinions on it and while I don't share their opinion and absolutely loved the show, it's interesting to see that Andor ended up such a polarizing show. People either really related to it and adored it and felt like it was one of the best things Star Wars has ever produced, or it just fell completely flat because of how different its style and structure was.

"It didn't feel like Star Wars," "it was too slow," "none of the characters were interesting/likable" seem to be the biggest frustrations people had with this show, while "It's so new and refreshing," "it's an excellent slowburn that's taking its time to tell a good story," and "all of the characters are morally gray and it's an interesting use of ensemble" are things I've seen people ENJOY about the show. They're the exact same things, but for some people they work, and for others, they... don't.

I get why the slower structure would have bothered people, even as the structure worked really well for me in giving me those mini arcs for Cassian while still remaining entirely serialized and giving impact to past events as the story moves forward.

I get why having the ensemble structure would be frustrating in its refusal to truly focus in on one character's journey above the others, even as it totally worked for me in highlighting what the writers felt was meaningful about Cassian's arc by paralleling and foiling him in the others, partially because Cassian as a character doesn't always make things obvious and partially to just build the world up a little.

And I get why the more serious adult take on Star Wars could have put people off, that this just simply isn't what they enjoy Star Wars FOR and if they wanted edgy serious adult drama they would go watch something else. I get that, even as I deeply enjoyed having piece of Star Wars media that felt aimed at someone my age rather than having to enjoy something that is intentionally written towards a pre-teen demographic even if it's written well. As someone who doesn't tend to do a lot of reading of the novels and comics that have been allowed to be more adult, it's felt like a breath of fresh air in some ways. I like Star Wars a lot and really enjoy some of the more subtle things happening in shows like Obi-Wan Kenobi or Rebels or even Clone Wars and the main films. But I don't think Andor is a show that had a pre-teen audience in mind, I'm not even sure a lot of pre-teens would enjoy it all that much. And I think there can be room to explore an element of Star Wars that CAN be aimed at adults, but that's not going to be something that appeals to all of Star Wars' myriad fans.

I don't go see a rom-com because I'm looking for a political side story. I'm there to see a stupid formulaic nauseatingly sweet storyline that doesn't ask me to think all that hard. There's going to be people who come to Star Wars with very specific things in mind that they want out of it because it's why Star Wars brings them joy, it's what Star Wars MEANS to them, and Andor just isn't going to fulfill that.

Andor did have to grow on me a little and I was someone who already considered Rogue One my favorite Star Wars film and enjoyed Cassian as a character, Diego Luna as an actor, and was genuinely hopeful and excited for the show. And of course the show isn't perfect, it stumbles in places, it can do better with some of its writing choices perhaps. But I respect it a LOT for choosing to really stick to its vision, to do its own thing. I'm someone who's always going to have a lot more respect for someone trying and failing than someone who is just sticking to the proven status quo. Andor had a very particular message in mind that it wanted to tell and a particular way it decided to tell it. For some people, that message worked, for others it didn't, but they took the road less travelled and I can respect the bravery and dedication that took.

#andor #andor show #andor series #sw andor #star wars andor #star wars #cassian andor #not every star war is for everyone