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Getting a bachelor’s degree in music.... call that a macalaurëate
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Bag Eng Bakery: Here Goes Muffin
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by tari_roo
After a successful party, Kili and Fili embark on a brilliant plan to earn money by selling baked goods. All they need to do is convince Mr Baggins to help them. Can't be too hard, right? Selling baked goods to starved students will be a breeze. The Bakery AU continues (Second story in the series)
Words: 2852, Chapters: 1/4, Language: English
Series: Part 2 of Bag-end Bakery
Fandoms: The Hobbit - All Media Types, The Hobbit (Jackson Movies), The Hobbit - J. R. R. Tolkien
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: Gen
Characters: Bilbo Baggins, Gandalf | Mithrandir, Kíli (Tolkien), Fíli (Tolkien)
Additional Tags: Alternate Universe, Alternate Universe - Bakery, Bakery, Bakery and Coffee Shop, Muffins, Baked Goods, Gratuitious Food References, Not to be read when on a diet, GBBO Inspired
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Do you like hobbits (well, "Shirefolk", because this is an inofficial and unlicensed project)? Do you like cooking? Do you like hobbit cuisine? Then I'd like to invite you to have a look at this Kickstarter for... dun dun dun... a cookbook inspired by hobbit cuisine! The English translation of that cookbook which has already been published in German, to be exact. The Kickstarter runs from July 21 to August 6, 2023, so there's a couple of days left to jump on board!
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Ruthandol? How the everloving fuck would you come up with Ruthandol? There’s. There’s a reason that it’s written with a double-S. Means that it has shit fuck all to do with the TH -> S development (not to mention that... not all later Quenya S once were TH?! Some have always been S? silmë as an individual Tengwa exists? I mean, it’s a fairly significant sound in, IDK, Silmaril?!). The double-S in transcription represents a whole-ass Tengwa of its own (essë)? This isn’t even complicated or ambiguous it’s just... IDK? Revisionism? Hypercorrection? Pseudo-Fëanorian bullshit? I mean, you can name an OC Ruthandol (or rather, Rúthandol) because rúsë/rúthë “wrath” exists. It’s correct Quenya. But. It very much isn’t a valid form of Russandol (Don’t mind me, I’ve been reading the AMA with Bill Fliss and someone asked the poor man whether Ruthandol would be more correct than Russandol. He wisely abstained from answering and declared that he was out of his depth there. I, however, am not.)
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ppl keep talking about how the Amazon show can’t mention Feanor and the Silmarilli bc they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion (only to the LotR appendices) as if Appendix A didn’t namedrop Feanor on the very first page like
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What the hell are you talking about. What LotR appendices were you reading.
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Either folks are using the concept of a "hard" consonant very differently from how I learned it or they're reading the appendix on pronunciation wrongly
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So apparently The Fall of Númenor is going to be published in November! I’m EXCITED. I was driving home two and a half years ago, randomly thinking that I was hoping that Christopher Tolkien would (again) deviate from what he’d said in the preface to The Fall of Gondolin re: this being the last work of his father’s that he’d edit, and go to publish the Númenor material in a single tome, too. And the next day I found out that he’d passed away. But now the book is coming anyway! Forgive my excited rambling, but that makes me so happy.
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Can’t wait for LotR to enter the Public Domain so we can all get our little e-mail Dispatches From The Ring War in a couple of years
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Don’t even know what pisses me off most about the “LOL evil Tolkien Society coming after a poor innocent fan account for posting a copyrighted image” post Like. Is it
- people being genuinely too stupid to understand the difference between copyright and a fucking NFT
- people just reblogging for the LULz without even bothering to understand what the situation is actually about
- people defending the M/ellonH/eads’ and their followers’ right to behave like assholes bc the TS were kinda petty
- people acting like Tolkien would be horrified about the whole thing as if he didn’t sue AceBooks back in the day (rightfully) and his descendants haven’t regularly been coming after every uncopyrighted use of his name writing or art (sometimes understandably, sometimes less so)
- people apparently not understanding that whether or not the image is widely available via google search, IT CAN STILL BE COPYRIGHTED? And those other places may or may not have paid for the right to use the image, either to the TS or the previous copyright holder? Like. What the hell is too difficult to understand here?
- people acting like this is covered by fair use like the M/ellonH/eads aren’t a commercial podcast (no matter how fan-run) using this image to advertise their project? Like, no, that is not actually a non-profit use. What isn’t clicking here
- people acting like asking whether they have permission to use that image is harrassment. Like. The TS literally asked “Do you have permission”. How is that “harrassing” or “threatening” IDK how you people survive
- people blaming the TS for everything the Tolkien Estate and/or Middle-earth Enterprises ever did like those aren’t three entirely separate entities
- rightwing dudebro fanboys using the whole kerfluffle to once again hate on the TS for acknowledging that POC and/or queer and/or disabled people reading Tolkien’s works might kinda have a right to exist and do their thing
- people acting like the TS was stupid for paying 18K pounds on the picture as if they didn’t buy an entire set of photographs by photographer Pamela Chandler as well as several letters at that price
- again, people acting as if paying (or expecting) money for the use of a picture (or the accompanying copyright) is the same thing like people creating NFTs? Like no? That’s just how art works?
- people mocking the TS for privating their account now like that isn’t the result of days of bullying
NO WAIT IT’S DEFINITELY
- volunteers for a non-profit literary society getting harrassed (actually harrassed, not just asked “do you have permission to use that image”) and sent individual hate messages because one of them may have been a little graceless but ABOVE ALL because a fucking COMMERCIAL podcast didn’t do their fucking research and instead of being graceful about it  and going “my bad, will remove the picture” or else asking for permission to use the image , acted like they were in the right and basking in the applause of various social media platforms
And thanks to the combined reading comprehension and critical thinking skills of Tumblr and Twitter, somehow the TS are the “monsters Tolkien warned us about” here? UUUUUURGH.
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Priscilla Tolkien passed away two days ago (28th February, 22).
I know there are more dramatic things going on in the world right now, and 92 is a good innings, but I still don’t want to let it go entirely unremarked. It’s the end of an era. Enyalien.
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Unironically love being in a fandom where ‘It's in footnote 51 to "Of Dwarves and Men" in The Peoples of Middle-earth specifically' isn’t even an uncommon thing to say in casual conversation
The Tolkien fandom really is just... people who for one reason or another didn’t get a job in academia but still want to do academia like. One the side. As a hobby
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Shocked when copyright holders are tightening the language around their copyright so suddenly everyone understands just how many things that copyright includes. Absolutely shocked and completely surprised. Oh wait, actually none of this is new. It’s just being made more explicit so people don’t build a whole website around selling Elvish translations and then are surprised when the TE drags them to court about it. So folks don’t put Tolkien’s art, maps or entire books on the web so people can download them. So companies don’t buy Tolkien-related domains for the sole purpose of selling them on to the highest bidder, hoping to cash in on the latest adaptation. (And I honestly can’t believe that people here on Tumblr think that some sort of shady business wouldn’t open a “Tolkienworld” theme park in a blink if they didn’t have to fear the TE slapping their fingers. Y’all know this would happen and you’d hate it.)
The point is not that they’re planning to crack down on every single fanficcer cheerfully sharing their fanfic anymore than they previously did. It’s not about dragging everyone who translates a line into Quenya or transcribes someone’s name in Tengwar to Angband and back. It’s specifically about having worded it in such a way that it is plain, easily understood without having studied Legalese(TM), and pretty much covers their base whenever they decide that they need to crack down on something. (Which might as well be some white supremacist assholes trying to use Tolkien quotes for their purposes. Just saying.)
You have always had to ask permission for public live readings. You’ve always needed to stay within certain limits concerning quotation, even in a scholarly context, and in a commercial context you’ve always needed permission. None of this is new. Stop monster-shouting and chill down. (And stop asking money for your fanart or translations or, good grief, fanfic.)
The TE haven’t “gone crazy”. They haven’t “lost their minds”. They have decades of experience with people disregarding their copyright, either because these people didn’t give a damn or - and this is the relevant bit - because they thought they’d found a loophole. The TE are trying to make the language on their website as painfully self-explanatory as they can so they can avoid some of these lawsuits in the future.
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On a more humorous note
I’ll say this for Tumblr - it’s making the Oath of Feanor a lot more relatable. You do something that feels like a good idea at the time, but then it takes on a life of its own. Every comment notification is a reminder of your past sins. Even if you delete the original post, reblogs of it still reappear on your dashboard every now and then, and you can only stare in horror at what your post has become. Whenever you think it has finally settled down, it’ll pop out of somebody’s queue and spark the whole fight all over again. Unless you delete your account and walk away from Tumblr altogether, it will haunt you forever
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Honestly I’m kinda sad that they’re probably not going to use the Aldarion and Erendis material in the Rings of Power series. It would be hilarious to see all the self-proclaimed purists shitting themselves over the ~*~insertion of feminism~*~ into their sacred dudebro fantasy when Tolkien actually wrote Erendis’ feminist speeches with his own hands
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Put this ramble in the tags of last night’ post but might as well give it its own post, so here goes.
I think younger/newer people in the Tolkien fandom need to understand that terms like ~*~morality~*~ and ~*~Tolkien’s worldview~*~ etc have been used to shut down queer and other diverse readings of the Legendarium for decades. In fact, judging by the backlash and commentry on the most recent Tolkien Society seminar, they’re still in use. So whenever they pop up - even if it has nothing to do with diversity in fandom/canon this time - it’ll prompt strong reactions from ye olde fans who are increasingly tired of being told that they’re doing fandom wrong, besmirching Tolkien’s memory, etc. etc. It may feel unfair at times, but there’s a history to these things.
Personally, I also find it hard to grasp why someone would feel that drawing a hard line between Good(TM) and Evil(TM) with no grey zones and no in-between makes a story more satisfying and less boring, rather than the other way round. Fandom and scholarship of Tolkien’s work (and other fantasy tbh) have been struggling - again, for decades - to counter the frequently used argument by the literary establishment concerning the over-simplified morality of fantasy - in which good and evil are always clear, in which (as one critic put it) “the good boys win and everybody gets to go home” - which simply is not true for the Silmarillion (or even The Hobbit or LotR, although it’s easier to get that impression there), and which probably is what makes the Silmarillion so satisfying for a lot of readers in spite of the obvious difficulties of the text. So that’s another thing that touches upon the very foundations of the fandom. Even if it ultimately comes down to different opinions on what’s “complex” or “interesting” (or different interpretations on a specific reading). So these are two things that, hm, are included in opinion pieces at one’s own peril. Even if it’s intended to be about personal opinion, it touches so deeply upon the foundations of the fandom that a bit of an earthquake will be unavoidable.
As for the Free Will vs. predestination debate - now that’s something that theologians have been trying to puzzle out for centuries, and as far as I’m aware the issue still hasn’t been settled to everyone’s satisfaction. My faith in the Tolkien fandom’s brainpower is nearly endless, but I don’t think we’ll manage to hash out that one.
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Love that the Vanity Fair articles about Rings of Power are starting to have passages going “This is not a spoiler, it’s literally the set-up for LotR". Wishing them the best of luck in the current fandom climate, honestly
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