#fandom fuckery

[queerly-autistic]

I keep seeing posts on social media thanking the OFMD cast and crew for their work and not mentioning Taika, and it's driving me to distraction because Taika is absolutely fundamental to the existence of this show.

There's a huge chance the show wouldn't have been picked up at all if Taika hadn't attached his name to it. And he didn't just attach his name and walk away - he played a key role in developing the show. David has said that he was looking at the history with Taika and they both went 'omg Stede and Blackbeard were fucking' and decided to centre the show around that. Taika pushed for Rhys to play Stede. Taika saw Nathan's comedy on instagram and went 'yep that's Lucius'. Taika was desperate to play Ed, and fought to play him. Taika has spoken about how much he loves playing Ed, how it made him fall in love with acting again, to the point where he wears some of Ed's jewellery and has gotten some of Ed's tattoos actually inked on him. He poured everything he has as an actor into Ed (some of the stuff he had to perform, particularly at the beginning of S2, is difficult) and the show simply wouldn't work without it. Taika directed the pilot. He loved the show enough to juggle filming S1 with post-production on Thor: Love and Thunder. When the show's budget was slashed by 40%, and could no longer afford to film in LA, Taika would have been key to moving production to New Zealand - and if that hadn't happened, S2 wouldn't have happened. When a director went off sick with Covid during S2, Taika jumped in to direct half an episode and then didn't take a director's credit on it.

You do not have to like Taika. You do not have to agree with everything he does/says. But what we are not going to do is erase the absolutely key fundamental role that Taika has played in OFMD. This show simply would not exist, probably not in any form, but certainly not in the form we see and love, if not for Taika's continuing and multi-level contribution.

#blanket erasing the role that an indigenous man had in creating your favourite show and refusing to credit him for it is not a good look #ofmd #our flag means death #taika waititi #fandom fuckery #erin rants

[tofixtheshadows]

Being in any fandom:

#fandom fuckery #this was unnecessarily hard to make

[chuplayswithfire]

lmao i saw multiple mentions of this show burying their gays, not being a queer show anymore, etc, y'all.

It's not burying your gays every time a queer coded character dies. Lucius and Pete married each other. Edward and Stede are going to build a home together, and they kissed like five times. Archie and Jim kissed again and stayed together and have made it clear they're a package deal.

Izzy didn't die because of his queer coding or because he confessed having love for Ed. He died because his storyline came to the end the writers felt was most true to the character they'd written, and because his death would have the most impact for Ed, as primary love interest. Disagreeing with the necessity of that death is one thing, trying to claim it's homophobia or queerbait or burying your gays is another.

#ofmd #ofmd s2 spoilers #fandom fuckery

[glamaphonic]

i shouldn't have gone on twitter (i know)

but definitely feeling some kind of way about ppl going on screeds about how dangerous and harmful the show is to suicidal queer people bcs izzy dies (despite, crucially, the idea of suicidality on his part being tenuous, and largely projected/inferred, not an actual narrative feature)

but somehow not caring about the fact that ed, queer man and main character whose gay relationship is the central storyline of the show, had a full multi-episode arc specifically and explicitly about him being suicidal with the resolution being that no matter how bad it feels or how much you hate yourself, you are still loved, you have a reason to stay, you can make a different choice and who then continues his search for fulfillment and change and ends up happy with the love of his life

i'm not going to pretend i'm surprised that fandom is being like this but like damn mind the empathy gap

#ofmd #ofmd s2 spoilers #fandom fuckery #talmbout

[naranjapetrificada]

if you plan to talk about Ed and Stede's bodies in fic look at this image first

so that I never have to read someone describe Ed as "several inches taller than [Stede] and at least a stone heavier" or anything like it again.

now where is that post about how with interracial couples fan artists twinkify white characters and depict their nonwhite partners as taller and larger than they are

#fandom racism #fandom fuckery #another fic ruined #just be normal about bodies #ofmd #our flag means death #edward teach #stede bonnet #gentlebeard #blackbonnet #ofmd meta #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd spoilers #ofmd s2 #ofmd season 2 #i'm so tired

[lunainfortuna]

The fact that there wouldn't be any debate on Nesta's decisions in HOFAS if they were Feyre's says it all.

Be fuckin honest. This is getting old as fuck.

#and if a character has acted the way rhys did but with feyre? lol #fandom fuckery #pro nesta #nesta archeron #forget her if u dont like her

[ilikepjo24]

This is your passive aggressive reminder that being able to lie really well doesn't, under no circumstances, have to always be related to psychopathy. Sometimes you just have really strict, abusive parents that want you to be a prodigy instead of a child and therefore if you want to get away with doing normal child stuff, you have to be able to come up with a believable lie in a matter of seconds and deliver it flawlessly, to cover up the fact that you were child-ing instead of prodigy-ing.

#yes this is about Azula #azula #atla #fandom fuckery #stop demonizing normal child stuff #anti anti

[justanoakbucket]

@wildpeachfarm i couldn't submit a meme so i guess im trying this way instead XD

Anyway this is how this enter month has felt

#meme #fandom fuckery

[xoxoemynn]

what happened tonight with the wjw?

I'm too lazy to go back to watch the recording and annoy myself all over again lmao but essentially Kristian noticed someone in the chat say they had a question but they dare not ask, and said that normally he doesn't take questions from the chat but he was desperate to know what that question was. So people started tagging the person to get their attention and they came back with this SUPER appropriate and not at all embarrassing question.

Thankfully Kristian either didn't see the actual question, or ignored it, but yeah. Obnoxious as hell.

#ask #jellybeanium124 #seriously it's bad enough DJenks already had to step in and say Taika was totally game for S3 #but you have members of the cast taking time out of their days to give us these experiences #for FREE #and you're abusing that kindness by taking digs at their colleague and hoping they'll do the same? #as if Taika hasn't only ever expressed extreme excitement for OFMD #I'd really been hoping as a fandom we were starting to move past this but nah #people always have to be Weird about Taika #doesn't matter if the entire cast/crew says he's great and they loved working with him and he loves the show #wouldn't matter if he got back on social media and said how much he loved OFMD #doesn't matter OFMD likely would never even exist without him backing it #people just HAVE to be gross about it #ANYWAY #ofmd #fandom fuckery

[freyjas-musings]

Really? Bullying people for just stating their opinion? Not everyone cares about ships , this is just annoying and getting out of hand at this point.

Are you guys really that insecure , sorry wrong question.... you are insecure but the fact that the mere mention of Gwyn's name triggers such fear in Elriels is both amusing and sad.

The poor soul was baffled at the reaction. I don't know how Elriels function but they just showed a lot of people which includes 1M followers of the person they bullied from another industry as well 1.5M followers of SJM what they are ... whats more note worthy is its on the authors page for everyone to notice , on the most liked comment no less ...

#gwyneth berdara #anti bullying #anti elriel #gwynriel #pro Gwyn #fandom fuckery

[hlizr50]

I was shown a post this morning (I think it was from Tumblr, but I'm not 100% sure) where someone asked if maybe something was LOST IN TRANSLATION because so many Gwynriel shippers aren't native English speakers.

Now...

I'm going to give this person the benefit of the doubt and believe that they truly don't mean anything negative by the question, even though the implications are... harmful to say the least.

Here's the deal, guys.

There are Gwynriel shippers all around the world because there are ACOTAR readers all around the world. The ship is not localized to a region or a language.

When people read books, the words on the page send a message. Sometimes, if we're super casual readers, the messaging is limited or we don't read a ton into it. For other readers who choose to delve deep into how the author writes to try to understand what might come next, it is obviously a bigger investment.

But at the end of the day, we all read the SAME BOOK (and bonus content) and those words made us all feel different ways. Made us want or predict different things. And that's all well and good. The problem comes up when we try to explain why we feel the way that we do.

I'm an engineer. Even though I enjoy creative writing and art, my brain is practical. I like having evidence. I like being able to identify trends and make an educated prediction based on them. As someone who ships Gwynriel, I have never denied that there are canonical moments where Azriel and Elain have some level of... something. On page. It would be ignorant of me to say that those moments don't exist. However, for the most part FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, when a Gwynriel shipper tries to use canonical evidence to support their ship -- WHICH EXISTS -- it's a constant barrage of 'that's not what that means' or 'how could you read that romantically?' or 'Gwyn is just a side character'. And then there are the blatant hypocrisies, like how Azriel saving Elain from Hybern is romantic but Azriel saving Gwyn at Sangravah should never be mentioned ever again.

I guess what this long-winded ramble is trying to say is that there's nothing lost in translation. We've read the same story, and we believe Gwynriel makes sense. We lean on canon and trends in the author's style to support the ship, and then we headcanon the hell out of it, because fandom is supposed to be fun like that. Some people read the story and believe that Elriel makes sense, and that's perfectly fine. But don't come at a Gwynriel shipper, attacking their textual evidence with your headcanon that Elain was barely existed in ACOSF bc she was apparently training to be a spy and she and Azriel were falling in love completely off-page with nothing to show for it.

And don't you dare make an implication so blatantly out of bounds like blaming it on some strange translation error that somehow miraculously makes Gwynriel makes sense, but only if it's not in English. Like... give me a break. And... think about what you're saying. For A SINGLE MOMENT.

#I'm just so tired #this is so dumb #read what you like #ship who you want #enjoy fanwork for your ship #and scroll past fanwork that isn't for your ship #gwynriel #fandom #sjm fandom #fandom ships #fandom fuckery #fandom bullshit #acotar #acosf #sarah j maas #sjm #acotar fandom

[nikethestatue]

This would be hilarious if it weren't so sad--the ACOTAR Mods on Reddit are fighting tooth and nail not to allow any discussions around the Time article or any other piece of information regarding Elain's or Elriel's book.

I think North Korea is looking for some mods. They sure do love to suppress information there.

It doesn't matter how many posts they'll delete, lock or remove. It won't change the outcome.

Elriel book is coming.

#Fandom Fuckery #pro elriel #ACOTAR 5

[tell-them-the-north-remembers]

Based on a convo I had with GOT fans on Tiktok (they said Aegon Targaryen is the rightful heir to the Iron Throne and by Aegon Targaryen they meant Jon Snow)

#fandom fuckery #stannis baratheon #my weird little meow meow rightful king #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #got #game of thrones

[chuplayswithfire]

genuinely surprised people are holding the murders of the npcs against ed when like literally every pirate on this show is a murderer multiple times over lol this is the murder doesn't make you unloveable show.

#ofmd #ofmd s2 spoilers #edward teach #fandom fuckery

[glamaphonic]

people watching a romantic comedy about pirates, who are all murderers, full of slapstick violence and the presentation of said violence as a standard part of the job

yet somehow holding the indigenous male lead and only him to real world standards of morality so that they can paint him as an unstable abusive monster victimizing poor unsuspecting white men

but it's totally not bcs racism tho!!!!

k

#fandom racism #misc #ofmd #ofmd s2 spoilers #fandom fuckery

[naranjapetrificada]

It is upsettingly predictable and disgustingly telling that if you type "literate" while looking for tags to filter by on AO3 that the only one that pops up is for Edward Teach. It's unfortunately become necessary if you want to reassure readers who have been burned too many times, and probably only exists because enough writers have been in that same position as readers.

Every fandom has a racism problem. Not every fandom has this racism problem.

#fandom racism #fandom fuckery #fandom critical #ofmd #our flag means death #edward teach #ofmd meta #fandom meta #one time I saw someone argue that s2e8 must be Stede in the gravy basket because how else was Ed reading his letter? #to say nothing of all the people who think Stede taught Ed to read #or who believe “Stede teaches Ed to read” is a cute scenario 🙃 #thank goodness for the ability to mute #ofmd s2 #gentlebeard #blackbonnet #stede bonnet #and for the record #I want people to start using the literate tag more #so readers can have some assurance about what they're getting into