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ruubesz-draws · 1 year
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The most emotional scene in BATDR
Unfortunately, Audrey did not remember
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zoe-oneesama · 1 year
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From what I’ve know, the fandom mostly dislikes Andrey for reasons related to Chloe (bad mother etc.), but what are YOUR reasons for not liking her?
Cuz she's an asshole? On top of being qualified for the Top 3 Never Should've Been Parents to Begin With Award (next to Gabriel and Tomoe), she's an elitist dick waffle without any on screen talent to back it up. So she's a fashion critic. So what? What makes her qualified, have you seen her outfit? And I just have a special hate boner for people who look down on the service industry, so she already wasn't winning any awards for "firing" people left and right.
Meta-wise, I hate her because she just confuses things. "Despair Bear" makes it out that Audrey abandoned the Bourgeois when Chloe was small, though at least old enough to remember, so maybe at minimum 3 years old, though in a sensible universe, closer to 5 or 6. Yet despite being absent from Chloe's life for about a decade, if not more, we're supposed to believe Chloe is the way she is because she's emulating her mother...who isn't there to emulate? Okay. Sure Jan.
Totally unnecessary, Chloe's personality has a good foundation in the fact that her father is rich, powerful, and ready to drop everything to cater to her every petty whim. What does Audrey even add to Chloe's story as presented? Personally, I would've liked it more if Chloe deeply resented her mother and was determined to prove she was BETTER than Audrey. Then have her be frustrated and pissed off every time the two of them are accidentally in sync. Show me a love-hate relationship, at least that would've been interesting, and better yet, would've had something to say about a parent abandoning their child.
But the show just sorta soft balls it. Chloe and Audrey immediately "resolve" a lifetime of abandonment issues because another 14 year old pointed out that they both suck and the two bonded over the fact that she's...right? Audrey decides Chloe's name is worth remembering, she's worth staying in Paris for, and she's "exceptional" in less than 3 minutes because Chloe yelled at the Butler. And for the rest of the series, Audrey is just another Chloe-Patsy, doting on her like her Dad in "Malediktator", cowering under her outburst in "Sole Crusher", and acting as her enforcer when Andre ever puts up a fight. A duo made in hell, but they ARE getting along.
Which makes the leaks for how they're going to end things for the two are confusing.
I don't like Audrey because she was made to be unlikable, but I also don't like Audrey because of her effect on the story. She's used to excuse Chloe being The Worst because look! An Even Worse person! And she made Chloe sad! So you should ignore those several felonies Chloe's committed because her mommy sucks! Nevermind that Chloe and Audrey get along just fine now!
And on top of that, she's used to excuse Andre. Andre, who spoiled Chloe from the beginning, who acts as her attack dog when Chloe cries wolf, who's taught Chloe how to lie, cheat, steal, and bully her way to the top. Somehow HE is getting off scott-free now because He CaN'T bE a DirEcTor aNd fUlFiLL hiS dReAm cUz HiS wIfe'S a BiG meAnIE. Even though Chloe is mostly his fault.
Why couldn't Audrey just stay in New York so we can pretend she doesn't exist and just let Chloe's behavior make sense like it did back in Season 1?
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gracies-baby · 2 months
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Teasing
(Gracie Abrams x Reader)
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Gracie wakes up to the sunlight shining through her curtains, smiling when she remembers the night before. She turns her head to look at the girl that is lying on her arm, leaving it numb. The brunette slowly pulls her arm away before getting dressed and leaving a kiss on her girlfriends forehead and walking to the kitchen, closing the bedroom door behind her.
"Good Morning" Audrey smirks at her as she sips her coffee at the kitchen counter. Gracie greets her in return as she begins to make breakfast for herself and her girlfriend.
"Have you eaten yet?" She asks her roommate, watching as she shakes her head. She pulls out enough ingredients to feed the three of them and Abby, who's coming over in a few minutes.
"So.. have fun last night?" Audrey teases as she watches her friends face turn bright red.
"What? How did you hear?!" Gracie whines as she looks to her bedroom door.
"Seriously?! ‘Oh! Oh Gracie! Please! Harder! Harder!’" Audrey mocks as Abby walks in.
"Dude.. what??"
"Nothing. She's being an idiot" Gracie replies to her cousin as she turns back to the food.
"You're so lucky you weren't here last night. They didn't stop! Well, except for about 20 minutes halfway through. What was that about?"
"Oh, you don't wanna know" a familiar voice joins the conversation. The three women turn their heads to look at the shorter girl wearing only underwear and her girlfriend's oversized shirt.
"I'm kinda curious now" Abby replies with a teasing grin.
"Babe, don't tell them" Gracie pleads as she looks at her girlfriend.
"Well, Weenie walked in" Y/n ignores her girlfriends begging.
"So? He's a dog" Audrey replies.
"Not to Gracie. Babe, you humanise that dog way too much. We really had to stop having sex because he walked into the room? You wouldn't make eye contact with me or him for like 15 minutes!" Y/n replies as she glares at her girlfriend.
"It was awkward! He just stood there! Watching!" Audrey and Abby burst out laughing as they watch their friends bicker.
"She probably didn't look you in the eye because she was looking at something else" Abby teases as she pours herself a cup of coffee.
"Why are we still talking about this? Our sex life has nothing to do with you guys!" Gracie exclaims with a bright blush on her face.
"We wouldn't be talking about it if you guys weren't so loud all the time. The night of the Spotify Grammy party was the worst. The tension was insane that night!" Audrey replies with a wide grin.
"Yeah, Y/n always did like Gracie in suits" Abby looks at Audrey as she replies.
"Or what about when Y/n saw Gracie's new haircut?"
"Okay! That's enough!" Gracie yells in embarrassment, cutting them off as she pushes the plates with blueberry pancakes in front of them all.
"Okay fine, we'll stop" Audrey replies as the group begins to eat their breakfast in silence only for Abby to gasp when Gracie leans down to feed her dog.
"Okay, I know we said we were done but look at Gracie's back!" Gracie quickly stands up and pulls her shirt down from where it had ridden up.
"Were those scratch marks?! It looks like you were attacked by an animal!" Audrey exclaims teasingly as Gracie groans and Y/n puts her head down, a blush on her face.
"Okay, I have to go to the studio. I'll see you guys later" Gracie whispers an I love you to her girlfriend before giving her a quick kiss and walking to the door.
"Gracie wait!" She turns around to look at her cousin.
"You should probably do something about those" Abby points to the brunettes neck.
"Babe! I told you I had work today!" Gracie whines as she looks at her neck in the mirror.
"You can't talk. Y/n has way more" Audrey replies as she points to her friends neck, looking at the many hickeys.
"Okay well, I don't really have time to cover them so I guess they'll have to stay" Gracie sighs before walking out of the house.
The three girls are watching a movie when the door is opened.
"Gracie? What happened?" Y/n asks when she sees her girlfriend walk in with an upset face.
"Aaron was just teasing me about the hickeys all day. Just cause he can't get any" Gracie mumbles the last part to herself as she wraps her girlfriend in a hug.
"If it makes you feel any better, I think they look great on you" Y/n responds with a wide grin. Gracie gives her a kiss in return. Y/n opens her mouth to allow her girlfriend entrance only for a voice to stop them.
"Do you guys want us to go?" Audrey asks with a teasing grin causing Gracie to groan again.
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abittersweetraisin · 11 months
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Whenever i talk in favor of Chloé there have always been people telling me how she did nothing to deserve the miraculous, that she doesn't deserve a redemption, that she never showed any signs of wanting to be better. I don't agree and in this post i go in detail on why.
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Since day one they've written her as a horrible person and I've never denied that. But i do say that there have been more than just signs of her being written as someone who could be better. I'm just not being blinded by hate. Let's recap some episodes... I'll try to be as brief as possible.
-Despair bear. How many of us know someone stinking rich? Maybe just from the distance? Do you really think that rich people allows their employees to talk to them the way Chloe's butler talked to her in that episode? Sure, when Chloé felt humiliated she yelled at him, but that doesn't take away that she had allowed him to get emotionally close to her. He knew her, what she had lived and how she felt. And she listened to him.
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People say that her effort in this episode doesn't count because she only did it because it was convenient for her. She cared about Adrien. Even then it shows good in her. She cared about him. Adrien. Not his money, not his position, not his fame. This goes against what the writers forced on her later on season 3 finale when they said she only loved herself. - Zombizou. Oh, i love this one. People saying that she only apologized to Miss Bustier because of Chat Noir and Ladybug were there. Apologized only so she could get her miraculous again. Look at her facial expressions:
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She even felt self conscious when she noticed Ladybug and Chat Noir watching them. And that wasn't an act. The character's acting is supervised by the show's director. Look how the show portrays when someone is lying, here is Lila in Protection:
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And it's more than just the visuals. Go watch the episodes, listen to the music. Chloé apology do was sincere. I've also been asked "Then why didn't she apologize to Marinette?" Well, a truly shoehorned redemption arc would had her changing just like that, from one moment to the next. It feels more natural if it happens little by little, step by step.
-Malediktator. Last week i showed a video of Marinette choosing to trust Chloé with her miraculous. Let's now take a look at this scene:
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Again, look at her facial expressions. She dreamed of being a hero along side Ladybug. She was so into the moment that she almost slammed against the chimney. She admired Ladybug. She wanted to be her. That was shown since season 1:
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Again, more than once i've been told she only wanted the spotlight and Queen Wasp is brought as the source for that. Have we forgotten the Queen Wasp episode or are we choosing not to see what happened back then? Audrey couldn't even remember her daughter's name. She was praising Marinette, offering her the opportunity of a life time. Offering to take her to New York with her, when she hadn't even taken her own daughter with her. May the first stone be cast by whoever wouldn't truly feel jealous and hurt by something like that. Chloé had tears in her eyes. Audrey said the only exceptional thing about Chloé was being her daughter. Chloé replied (and i quote): "I'll show you how exceptional i can be!". It was then that she transformed into Queen Bee for the first time and it was after that that she did the thing where she put the train in danger so she could be the hero to save everyone. Wrong, yes. But again, this was a character that was just beginning a redemption journey. She didn't want fame, she was looking for her mother's love.
-Miraculer. Come on... How can people say she didn't try to be better? She was being offered power and she rejected that.
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Yes, later she embraced the akumas, but till before season three's finale she had been written differently. That was a character that could truly become a good person. That didn't happen not because she didn't have the potential, but because the writers didn't allow that to happen. Let's not forget she's a fictional character. I mean, in Lilo and Stitch. Stich was genetically designed to want to destroy everything and even for a character like him there was redemption. It comes down to whether the writers want to write that path for a character or not.
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Then Mayura tried again, she offered her the chance to retain the bee miraculous. If Chloé had truly only wanted the spotlight she could had accepted the offer. She wanted to be a hero and this time not to impress her mother. Not because she wanted the attention from the media. Come on, she's super rich. If she only wanted to be famous she could have easily made that happen. This scene was a huge mistake from the writers and they tried to patch it up with Miracle Queen episode:
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They knew they were going to keep handing the same miraculous to same people. Alya has been even trusted with the Ladybug miraculous twice! So, of course they had to write the Miracle Queen episode to say "Look, she's bad, she can't be trusted." I don't know how much of the fandom didn't like that, so what did they do: "Chloé hate campaign" all along season 4. And now what they're giving us for season 5. And all this,... Why? For what? To represent people who will never change? That's an excuse and season 2 and most of season 3 are proof of that.
If after this recap you still think that she was never written trying to be better,... I'm sorry, but it would be that you don't want to see it, not that it wasn't there.
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After too much stalling, I finally finished the other half of Miraculous Season 2. Here's my thoughts episode-by-episode:
Zombizou: The episode focused on Ms. Bustier. Honestly I get where she's coming from in that statement to Marinette. This is a world where people can become butt-ugly abominations because they felt upset, although I think Chloe still needs consequences for her actions as well as something like positive reinforcement. She had plenty consequences in season 1. Speaking of Chloe, That Asshole was wrong. There was clear intent for Chloedemption. Also could we at least have seen all that stuff Ms. Bustier does in previous episodes?
Syren: This was an episode the salters talked loads about, and honestly, I get where Adrien's coming from here. On a fundamental level the Ladybug and Black Cat miraculi aren't equals due to the Ladybug's magic reset button, but as one of the first Miraculous users, Adrien should've still been let in on the loop. Kid felt like he was useless, that Ladybug could save the day without his help. At the very least have Master Fu go one-on-one or have both kids show up while transformed or blindfolded. Also the water voices ticked me off, but that's relatively minor.
Frightningale: A fun character-of-the-week episode, especially since I'm fond of Clara Nightingale's constant rhymes and rhythm. She's dedicated to it and I love it. It's also good to see Chloe be an exceptional and talented dancer! It's good to see her having talents and interests that aren't just making people suffer!
Troublemaker: Another episode showing why I think Marinette and Adrien shouldn't date in any of their forms. I don't know enough about stalker shrines but I think Marinette's room is getting close enough to be one for Adrien. Though I'm pretty sure Adrien's seen worse or has been conditioned to not care, based on his reaction at the end. Still a shame that the local TV show had to live-film Marinette's room and beach her privacy in the local city-town of Paris while the real Paris has been converted to an amusement park for tourists. You got any other reasons why the population is so low? One more thing: I'm pretty sure the lack of ladybug-vision was more due to anxiety over losing one of her earrings and the difficulty of the villain more than anything else.
Anansi: I find the new heroes good, personally. They give more screentime to other characters. Also again with Adrien's insecurity about being useful. And I think this episode would've been over sooner if they noticed that Anansi was going to get herself akumatized over the stress and maybe just let her come or something. Or if they got Marinette to arm-wrestle her instead. Marinette has muscles, right?
Sandboy: A lore episode, mostly. The nightmares were funny for a second and I was a bit annoyed by the Akuma's voice, but that's small potatoes. I like how compared to season 1, where we would be given a bunch of development for Sandboy it's just explained to us afterwards while we instead get more time for lore.
Style Queen: Hawkmoth has a contender for the most evil character in the show. Audrey Bourgeois is the kind of person that would be made fun of in those Karen freakout videos. She cheats on her husband, neglects her daughter to the point of not remembering her name, fires people over the most minor inconveniences, and starts G-rated killing people over getting a seat in the second row. She needs to be cancelled, deplatformed, and Chloe needs a therapist and better role models. I really liked the split-second of Adrien looking shocked after Marinette told him he had the catwalk down, btw. Did he think his identity was outed there?
Queen Wasp: This is why teenagers shouldn't get superpowers. I get secondhand embarrassment watching them. Also Marinette What The Fuck why the Hell are you getting Chloe to bond with the Absolute Worst Person For Her
Maledictator: This is what happens when you make Chloe bond with a Chernobyl-level toxic influence, Marinette. In general this episode was funny, both intentionally and unintentionally. Everyone starts celebrating Chloe ditching Paris with her mother except Adrien because Chloe was her only friend even though she was a detriment to everyone else and suddenly Marinette feels bad because she worships Adrien. The first thing the villain of the week does is make Audrey stop being such a horrible person and later he made Chat Noir reach the limit of catboyness. It's like a Smiling Friends episode. Also it was cool to see Chloe's depths and self-loathing. Surely that won't be forgotten and Chloe will be given therapy so she can become a better person, right?
Reverser (Put here so it makes sense timeline-wise): It's Yaoi time. Except that Nathaniel is into Ladybug (who I assume he knows is Marinette) here and Marc is fine with that. Overall a good episode. Some nice humor, and Reverser's probably the best akuma design so far I love the paper stuff. Plus more info on the side characters and a spot of good humor, excellent!
Frozer: Ah, there's the Nathmarc. And explicit Julerose. And Marinette getting some idea that her fantasy of Adrien is unhealthy and shouldn't be followed. And Adrigami, albeit a bit one-sided. Quit pining over someone who doesn't love you and get with someone who does, kid. And a smidgeon of Marigami. And Adrien's bodyguard being his daddy in place of his father. And a pinch of me seeing what the salters were talking about with the girlsquad and them forcing Marinette and Adrien together. Or at least Alya and Mylene. I couldn't hear what Alix, Juleka, and Rose were saying, but they disagreed, right? At least one of them had to disagree, right?
Heroes' Day Two-Parter: Marinette you're being too hotheaded against Lila no you gotta be like Columbo. Also yet another Marinette Costanza moment. Otherwise not much to say here. It's the boss rush episode, it's the series finale, Alya managed to catch onto Nino being Carapace but still can't seem to connect the dots between Ladybug and Marinette, the Peacock Miraculous is introduced, and Natalie is on my suslist.
I might procrastinate again on the first half of season 3. The first episode deserves a post of it's own. It's the salt episode.
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I was musing on ways to make Audrey work as a more present villain without just handing her a Miraculous or needing to introduce a whole new power system and it hit me.
Remember that idea I floated about Lila's shift from liar to super villain with a baseless vendetta being tied to Hawk Moth Akumatizing then freeing her over and over. Or just leaving the corrupted essence inside her, leading to an eroding of the boundary between the human and Akuma identity, if not outright transformation from human into an Akuma?
Well, same premise here, except Audrey is consenting or basically did it herself and is totally eyes wide open about the whole affair. Hence her Akuma just being her public title, she's already so close to it there's not much of a distinction save the magic injection.
Now, a permanently transformed person would essentially be a monster in its own right. They are no longer tied to or dependent on the Miraculous, but if they link up to it they get a huge power boost. This allows Audrey to have powers, while still remaining an independent threat, as opposed to just an Akuma mook.
She might have some kind of Sentimonster that lets her disguise herself as human or the ability to shift between both forms or a minor magical trinket that does it. But yeah, the general gist is, she's a magical monster in her own right and unlike Lila, cos she wasn't manufactured against her will she's both more stable and doesn't have reason to resent Gabriel.
Meanwhile Gabriel would probably be quite surprised Lila slipped away from him at some point too.
kinda terrifying and really would've been great.
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halfusek · 1 year
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Memory Joey’s Intangibleness
Sooooo I think it’s probably just one of those things that the developers didn’t think too much about but it’s been driving me up the fricking wall
If Joey is supposed to be “just a memory” and “ghost-like”, as it is established the first two times we see him-
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then how come does this happen??
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Like really he doesn’t have to take that at all, he could just phase out of existence or whatever...
...or can he?
I’ve given this some thought and came up with two versions I found most interesting:
1. He can phase out but he doesn’t do that to be there for Audrey. Maybe he’s hoping that seeing him get absolutely deaded will somehow help Audrey “snap out of it” and take control of this weird fusion she’s having with the Ink Demon...? I’ll be honest I don’t really understand how they’re supposed to be fused and why. But she sure does take control after Joey gets crushed, so I assume she needed that mental push. Joey could have known that or not, maybe he just wanted to be there for her, which would be kinda wholesome. I guess making a sacrifice like that in a circle that revives everyone every time it restarts is not that big of a deal so he could afford to give that a chance even if not knowing if that’d actually help or not.
2. He became tangible after retrieving The End reel from The Pit. Yeah. You heard me right. Theory time babey.
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Honestly, it’s something easy to miss, I’m sure I did while playing because I couldn’t remember what the goal is at any given moment, but in this part of the game you are supposed to get to the Pit. Except... we never do.
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When we get to the entrance of The Pit, the security system kicks in.
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And we get got by the Keeper here and escorted to Wilson.
(Though “The Pit” could be just the name of that hole the Keeper crawls out of but either way what it guards the way to is not accessed by us and that’s where The End reel is supposed to be.)
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"That's where the ghosts live. Just beyond that door. The Keeper's prison. The Pit. No one ever comes out. At least, they're not quite the same."
We don’t know much about the pit aside from this one quite peculiar fact: that’s where the ghosts live. Maybe even Joey, despite being one himself, can’t just go in and out of there without any repercussions.
And - watch out guys here is something I like about BATDR for once - it is quite cool that Joey is the one to retrieve it as it seems like a very dangerous place, so if the gang (Audrey, Henry, Allison, Tom) tried to do that, they’d very likely be badly affected somehow. Good job game, I like when you establish something and then follow it up logically, very cool.
So, yeah, my theory is that going to The Pit to get The End reel did something to Memory Joey making him less of a ghost than he was before (at least until his death in this cycle, I suppose).
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thatgirlstrawberry · 1 year
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💛Sunshine💛 - The Escape
In which you all read about Spencer’s family life.
Warnings: angst, cursing, blood, pregnancy trouble, crying lmk if I missed anything!
Spencer Reid x fem!oc
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Drip. Drop. Drip. Drop. Drip. Drop.
"Mom, mom, wake up."
Audrey groaned, her eyes squeezing them tighter shut than they already were. She figured she must of passed out from the blood loss.
She felt her body shake wildly with hands in her arms. "Mom, please wake up!"
"Charlie?" She mumbled, her breaths shallow.
Her vision was blurry as she squinted. "Yeah, it's Charlie. Mom, come on, you need to wake up now." A figure of her oldest son was knelt in front of her.
"Char, did her wound open back up?" This was a new voice but it was oddly familiar.
Audrey felt her shirt being lifted up. "No, no." Charlie answered. "You did a good job, Emmy."
"My mom's a doctor." The girl, Emmy, sighed.
Audrey's eyes opened all the way and she let out a quiet groan. "Char..." She whispered. "M-Marcus? Where is he?"
She asked, trying to sit up. Charlie gently help her up and she leaned back against the cold stone wall behind her. "I don't know. He left hours ago."
Audrey looked around the room.
Nothing. No identifiers, no windows. Just a door on the far wall and a light fixture on the ceiling.
It almost looked like a laundry room in the basement of an apartment building. Only there were no machines.
She saw Emmy sitting with her knees to her chest. She looked dehydrated, starved.
God, this poor girl.
“Emmy, sweetheart, are you okay?" Audrey asked, reaching for her. The girl crawled forward and held her hand.
"I'm okay, Mrs. Reid." She nodded, trying to smile.
Audrey felt tears fill her eyes. "I'm- so glad you're alive." She nodded. "I'm so sorry that my brother did this to you."
Emmy pressed her lips into a thin line and shook her head. "It's not your fault." She looked down at Audrey's stomach. "You're pregnant?"
Audrey nodded and glanced down at her stomach. "Peach." She smiled weakly.
"You lost a lot of blood." Charlie told her. "That's why you passed out and then uncle Marcus made Emmy stitch your wound."
The woman's eyebrows furrowed. "But I don't understand- he wants me dead so why stitch me up?" She asked.
Charlie glanced at the ground. "He said he had a bigger plan. A better one."
Audrey bit her lips and looked around, shivering. "Mom, are you cold?" Charlie asked softly, touching her arm. "It's gotta be at least 80 degrees in here."
The woman swallowed. "I... I haven't taken my medicine in over 24 hours." She spoke lowly. Emmy tilted her head, taking off the cardigan she was wearing. She crawled forward and wrapped it around Audrey's shoulders.
"Thank you, sweetie." She smiled a little. She looked around the room before speaking again. "Do you know if Marcus locked that door?" She asked.
Charlie nodded. "Yeah. He doesn't leave without locking it."
"How often does he come back?" She asked, her eyes darting around the room.
Emmy cleared her throat. "Every two hours." She nodded. "I started counting when on the second month I was here."
Audrey tilted her head to the side. "I'm gonna get you out of here, honey. I promise."
Now that Audrey was here, she could get under his skin. She's known the kid since he was born, surly she could get him distracted so Emmy and Charlie could get the hell out of there.
"Okay." She nodded and shut her eyes. "Okay, when he comes back in, I'm gonna distract him and I need you two to go. I need you to run, do you understand?"
Charlie scoffed. "W- mom, no." He shook his head. "I'm not leaving you. I can't."
Audrey smiled a little. "Baby, I'll be okay." She nodded, her eyes filling with tears. "I need you to go and figure out where I am so you can get your dad here."
Charlie continued to shake his head but stayed silent. She looked to Emmy. "Have you been anywhere except for this room?"
Emmy sighed. "When he was taking me down here. I think I can remember which way to go."
Audrey nodded, her heart aching for this poor girl. Charlie still shook his head. "Mom, I don't wanna leave you."
The woman smiled, biting her lip. "I know. I need you two to get out of here and you won't make it far with me."
The boy sighed and looked down at the ground. She watched Emmy scoot closer to him and wrap her arm around his back, her thumb moving back and forth soothingly.
They sat there in silence until they heard a noise coming from beyond the door. She widened her eyes and waved her hand at Charlie. "Go, act like you're asleep." She nodded towards the other side of the room. "When I say uh... white— get up and go. Make it fast and silent."
They scurried over and collapsed on the ground. Audrey pulled her knees to her chest and sucked in a breath when she felt a sharp pain in her belly. She shut her eyes and let her head hang down.
The door opened.
"Shit, Audrey." She heard her brother's voice. "You're making me change plans." He shook his head and walked over to her slowly, kneeling in front of her. Audrey slowly lifted her head, a glare already on her face. "I was gonna kill you at the house but now... I want to make a show out of it."
The woman scoffed. "So you can get the attention you claim to have been deprived of?" She asked, her eyebrows popping up a bit.
Marcus chuckled and shook his head, looking over at Emmy and Charlie who seemed to be sleeping. "Say something like that to me again and I'm slitting little Charlie's throat." He looked back at her with a straight face.
"You will not hurt my fucking child or I swear to God—"
Marcus grabbed her chin and interrupted her. "Enough with the threats, Aud." He said, taking something out of his pocket. "Because I have the knife..." He clicked something on the small thing he took out of his pocket and the tip of it touched her throat. "And you do not."
Her eyes fluttered and she glanced at Charlie who's eyes peeked open. She bit the inside of her cheek. "So what's your plan, Marcus?"
He scoffed. "I want money, I want media coverage and I want people to hurt."
Audrey shut her eyes. "Listen to me." She whispered. "Let them go, Marky." She bit her lip. "Please. Take me. I will stay willingly but you have to let them go." Her voice broke.
Marcus threw the knife down and pressed his hands against the side of his head, squeezing his eyes shut. "You don't get it, Audrey. I can't just l-let them go!" He screamed.
Audrey's lips quivered and she hesitated to reach up and grab the sides of his face. "Marcus..." Her voice was quiet. She glanced over his shoulder at the wide open door. "You can't just tell white lies for the rest of your life. You have to turn yourself in. You'll get all of the media coverage you could ever want."
She glanced at the knife as she heard their bodies start shuffling. Marcus furrowed his eyebrows and pulled his head away from his sister.
"Hey!" He screamed. Charlie and Emmy were running towards the open door.
Audrey's eyes widened when she realized that he saw them. "No!" She shouted as she got up from the ground. She grabbed the knife next to her feet and did the only thing she could think of.
She pushed the knife through his side and scrambled away from him as he cried out in pain.
She saw Charlie and Emmy looking back at her and she scrambled off of the floor. "Go! Go! Go!" Her voice came out strangled. "I'm right behind you!" She called.
She ran towards the door as they disappeared. "Audrey!" Marcus raged. "Get the fuck back here!"
She looked back at her brother one last time before running out of the room and shutting the door behind her.
She ran in the direction she saw the kids go. "Char!? Emmy, where are you guys!?"
“Mom! Up the stairs!" Charlie called back. She noticed as she ran that the walls of... whatever this was were stone.
She saw the stairs and her chest heaved. Another sharp pain in her belly made her cry out and stop running. She clutched the bottom of her stomach and inhaled.
Audrey heard slow footsteps behind her and she whimpered, beginning to climb the stairs. "Char!?" She called again.
"Mom, hurry! The gate is closing!"
The gate? She grunted, feeling her legs burn as she ran faster and faster.
"Emmy, go! Run, Emmy go!" She heard her son scream.
She saw the end of the stairs ahead and started to run faster. Her eyes watered and her lungs burned.
She made it to the top.
She stopped and looked around and saw Charlie in front of some gate that was indeed closing. She pressed her lips together and started running again. She saw Charlie get between the gate and it's doc, pushing it back.
"Come on, mom! You're almost there!"
She saw Emmy already past the gate, on her knees in the... sand? It was sand. What the fuck.
Soon, she was there. She as right there with Charlie and he pulled her through, both of them collapsing in the hot sand.
Her chest heaved and she pulled Charlie into her, squeezing him tight. "We're okay, baby." She cried. "We're gonna get out of here, okay?"
Charlie sobbed into his mother's shoulder before pulling away. He looked at Emmy who was rocking back and forth. She was crying and smiling.
"Hey." Audrey and Charlie sat up. "We gotta go. Come on."
They got up from the ground and walking over to Emmy. "Come on, sweetie." She whispered, touching her arm.
Emmy looked up at her, tears rolling down her cheeks. "O-okay. I get to go home?" She asked.
Audrey smiled. "Yeah, sweetheart. Come on. Come on, we're gonna get home."
Charlie pulled Emmy from the ground and they began walking. It looked as if they were in some sort of huge garage.
The door in front of them was huge and wooden. "Come on, we're almost there." Charlie wrapped his arm around Emmy and grabbed his mother's hand.
His lips turned up in a smile as they reached the wooden door. Audrey walked forward and bit the inside of her cheek, looking for a way to open it. She couldn’t seem to find a handle or a button.
“It’s gotta be here— it has to be.”
“Mom?” Charlie spoke.
Audrey shook her head. “No, wait. There’s some way to open—“
“Mom—“
“No, Char we have to open it—“
“Mrs. Reid!” Emmy shouted. Audrey paused and turned around to face her.
She furrowed her eyebrows. “What?”
Emmy glanced down at the bottom of her dress with a scared look. “You’re uh… you’re bleeding.”
Audrey’s heart dropped when she looked down, seeing the blood pooling on the fabric of her dress. It wasn’t from her stab wound.
Her stomach pain increased and she looked back up at Emmy and Charlie.
“Mom, are you okay?”
His voice seemed to echo in her ears until the only thing she could hear was her own heartbeat.
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AHHHHHHHHH EMMY IS ALIVEEEEEEEEEEEE
I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THIS CHAPTER :)
I know this had no Spencer in it but the next one will
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You know seeing that tweet of astruc hating on a fan and telling them to “do better” and “you wouldn’t get the opportunity” because the fan criticized him for saying “the show is what you need and the movie is what you want”, so I’ll do what he asked and do better than him on the aspect I hate the most about the show (besides the shipping and what he did to Chloe) the villains.
Dr.Franklie:a old friend of Gabriel which is the one helping keep Emilie alive in her coffin, eventually Gabriel reaches for him again to help him make permanent Akumas and The doctor does has asked but in reality he wants the miraculous for itself for thinking the human race needs to evolve and he wants it to evolve with him has the emperor of humanity.
Jawbreaker:a teenage boy in Paris has a very bad relationship with he’s parents, a prankster dad which is very aggressive physically and a Cold Mom which is aggressive verbally, he tries to drown he’s stress by dedicating in painting but one day he’s father abandons them and he’s mother blames him, he loses it and 💀, he’s arrested and put on trial but he’s freed by Dr.Franklie which runs test on him using the Akumas Gabriel gave the doctor, he mutate into a monster which ends up absorbing part of the power of destruction from cat noir and it mitates into a bigger monster named Jawbreaker (for he’s always open venom like jaw)
Iron heart:a young girl which has been lost in the streets of Paris since she was young, her family died on a car accident meaning she didn’t have anyone but herself and other criminals of her age to be with. She ended up developing a passion for music but because of her situation that dream kinda died, specially when she was arrested by none other than ladybug while trying to rob the Dupan-cheng’s bakery, but she was freed by Dr.Franklie which mutated her aswell except her entire body got melted into a puddle of meta till she absorbs some creation power of ladybug, she ended up turning into a humanoid monster with her body entirely made out of metal able to bend metal at her will (her villain names comes from he’s Last name “Lion heart” which is the only thing she remembers from her family mixed with her new metallic form)
Queen Astra:Dr.Franklie seeing how he’s monsters (jawbreaker and Iron heart) still hold some humanity, he decides to make a “fake miraculous” and he uses it on a plan with Hawkmoth to use Iron heart,Jawbreaker and a Akuma, all of them together so they can use the fake miraculous on ladybug but it accidentally latches itself with Vesperia, The fake miraculous is actually a artificial parasite designed to be the perfect Monster with no redeeming qualities whatsoever which absorbs the miraculous energy (or any kind of energy) and the AI of the fake miraculous ends up taking over Zoe’s body and mutating her into a energy based being named Queen Astra (from Astraphobia “fear of lightning”) she acts has the right hand and spy to the doctor till she decides it’s time to strike, so she reveals there isn’t a cure for their mutantions causing her mutant partners to riot and not only kill the doctor but also take over all of Paris and they even attack the agreste mansion in a attempt to get the butterfly miraculous, she ends up absorbing so much energy she mutates into a being similar to a kwami (like Tikki using her powers in dearest family) in power and betrays her partners revealing she wants to destroy the human race but she has a weakness which is Zoe’s family which she reuses to hurt even under Atra’s control (for family I mean Mr.Lee,Andre and Chloe. Audrey doesn’t count) at the end her partners and Chloe redeem themselves ripping out the parasite out of Zoe and allowing Ladybug and Cat noir to save the day and destroy Astra queen. Her partners surrender and are put under vigilance in hope they will find a cure for their mutations
I designed each villain to be a mirror to the heroes, Jawbreaker is a mirror to Adrien (instead of a distant family he loves, he has a family he wishes he never saw again. and meanwhile Cat noir Can destroy things Jawbreaker can Break things… which means he can break something apart but I can be fixed) Iron heart and Marinette (Marinette has thousands of friends and family meanwhile Iron heart has nothing, Ladybug Can create meanwhile Iron heart Can Modify preexisting things to make something new) and Astra is a mirror to Chloe (imagine the old seasons Chloe which wasn’t the best person but could get better, meanwhile Astra is just Season 4 and 5 Chloe, I see it has a way to showcase the fans fighting the awful damnation and Double standards the show has on Chloe remembering season 2 Chloe, and the fact they are controlling Zoe is to A-showcase the writers forcing the characters to do things they wouldn’t do, B-showcase how Zoe only existed to take the good out of Chloe, C-being ironical since Zoe is being forced to be a evil person once again except this isn’t something she can reuse to do now, and D-to add emotional stakes, since queen banana they said Zoe will always love her sister and I think if Zoe actually showcased that and tried to help Chloe to stop following her mothers footsteps, would also make the posession and the stakes of the situation all the more tragic and emotional)
Also notice how I said they are redeemed (except the doc and Astra) because they are kids, they didn’t even want to be here, they went through so much stuff I think redemption and rehabilitation is needed and deserved for them. Meanwhile the grown man and the robot die because 1-he’s a grown man which turned children into monsters, he deserves to die, 2-that’s just a machine doing what she was programmed to do, the only way to stop a machine from working is destroying it.
Also I thought of their personality’s to also mirror the heroes
Jawbreaker could be calm and collected but always open for a small joke outside of all the fighting, Iron heart could be loud and energetic always cracking jokes but a very good friend and Astra would be Chloe but smarter, eviler and Sadistic
I never wanted to share any of these because I thought I couldn’t do better and calling my own work better than Astruc’s would be too self centered, not self aware of how obnoxious that sounds, and knowing comparing my work to others and calling my own better is nothing but straight up being a “a**hole”, but in reaction to him being just that big of a I-di-OTA (get it?) I think calling myself better than him is nothing but deserved
The best part with all of these ideas is that even if you showed them to Astruc, he would still come up with a way to explain why they wouldn't work compared to the villains on his show.
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IN REGARDS TO BATDR...
I’mma get into Bendy and the Dark Revival.
So a few in-general things.
- The Ink Machine cannot create someone from nothing. It’s said this as far back as the first game. Audrey is said to be the “exception”, but how certain are we of that? Who’s telling us that she’s the exception exactly?
- People, alive and dead, were thrown into the Ink Machine. Both games show this, both in audio logs, environmental story telling, and even shows us an example of how it happens. As of the rule above, all people in the machine, were the real original people at one point. Joey Drew attempts to tell us otherwise, but bear in mind who’s fault this all is, and who’s he’s telling that he did this.
He’s a charmer, remember? He’s duped a lot of people with that charm of his. Take nothing he says at face-value.
- The Ink Machine and its Ink are corruptive. From the Camera Man of the First game, to the main “characters” we meet, to the people in the machine--if your ink form wasn’t made, or if you didn’t fit the form made for you--you lose your fecking gourd.
- Do not Trust Joey Drew (The Creator Lied to Us). Joey is, ultimately and foremost, a selfish lying man. The Entirety of BATIM shows us this first and foremost.
And as many of us with hard family lives know, the introduction of children do not change the minds of selfish, lying parents.
So,,, let’s begin  Bendy and the Dark Revival.
Bendy and the Dark Revival is an interesting Journey of a young woman name Audrey, who’s been thrown into the Ink Machine and into the world known as “The Cycle”. Here’s things I’ve considered when going through the game, and regoing through it.
- The Audio Logs. If there is anything that we can say for certain, is that the audio logs are real. One can claim that all the people are merely characters, but thanks to the logs, we know that’s not true. If the logs aren’t real, then what exactly are we playing? Do we have any other ideas? No? Then the logs are real.
Which means everyone here is a real person who was thrown in here. not some character cooked up by Joey. Someone brought more logs in than those who are here, but its all real.
( In addition, remember the caskets in BATIM. They aren’t memorials made by Joey, it was Henry who put those names on them. )
- Nobody tells Audrey anything. Its not just Wilson, its everybody. Everyone feeds Audrey a false story.
What’s even more suspicious is the Joey construct who tells Audrey “You’re meant to be here”, when she was thrown here against her will. Kidnapped by Wilson. If Joey is such a great fucking guy now, wouldn’t he comfort his own daughter regarding her kidnapping?
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( The in-game subtitles have a typo... )
It suspect that he’s the one telling her this, when most the game tells us that it should be Wilson...
... But this is Joey Drew. The Charmer, remember? There’s something else going on here.
- The Memories. Its easy to think that these memories are Audrey’s, after all, she’s collecting them, and her childhood is very significant to the greater story here.
But some things don’t add up the further we go, with that theory.
There’s the Chipped Cup, for example.
And low and behold if we bother to read it...
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There’s a book, in the mansion, associated with the cup.
And of course...
The Hotdog, one of the last memories.
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With associated audio log by Nathan Arch himself. Found specifically in Wilson’s workshop--Wilson being Arch’s son after all.
By these last two... We find our proof.
They aren’t Audrey’s memories...
... They’re Wilson’s.
- Wilson Arch.
The guy is a dick, don’t get me wrong. But we are all victims of the Ink Machine. Every person who goes in gets corrupted, and only a few don’t.
Wilson is not a charmer. We meet him at his creepiest, and frankly, he utterly gives bad vibes. In fact, there’s visible and ego-esque discrepancy between him in the real world and him in the ink-machine, suggesting again, that something else is going on here.
He’s no charmer...
... But He just might not be the villain of the whole show, see?
( Don’t get me wrong, he is villain to Us specifically, as Audrey. Its gonna take a little more than “oopsie sorry” to fix that mess. But what I’m saying, is that he’s not entirely at fault here as a whole. )
[ He’s got one peculiar aesthetic with Eyes. From painted eyes, to the fact that one eye works in the Cycle and the other eye works in the Real world, to the lack of eyes on his poster... Something with him deals in Eyes ]
He seems to get his reasons messy. Specifically about why he’s doing all this. Yes, the obvious ones are anywhere from “trying to outdo his father” to “having a sense of control and power”, but how sure are we that’s true? There’s a lot of conflicting stuff about Wilson. He’s lied to us, a lot, (but in consideration, he gives off such a manner that to follow him would be an idiot’s move anyway so, I don’t know, maybe Audrey is just stupid?)
 He’s hostile to us... but so is everyone else. So what are we to believe here. He lies, after all. So...
We know that he’s the Son of Nathan Arch... What do we know about that, beyond what he says?
Nathan Arch is highly successful, seemingly a jolly friendly man (for a rich guy) who built up many businesses in all sorts of avenues. Was on good terms with Joey Drew, even knowing that Joey tend to exaggerate and outright lie about things.
Nathan Arch does mention his son in regards to starting a movie studio instead of a cartoonish shop, and Nathan does talk about his wife. He doesn’t seem to have a bad thing to say about anyone, really.
Key point: There’s nothing that suggests that Nathan and Wilson had a bad relationship. To the Memory Items theory shows, there was a lot of love there. A very good childhood spent. Family trips, coloring and cartoons, baseball games...
Now, for Wilson’s side in unfairness
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He’s not necessarily a nice guy, definitely got them villian sinister vibes. ( Well, fuckin, Duh ). But uh, y’know, he’s not wrong to not like his father’s admiration for Joey Drew.
Joey Drew wasn’t a good person, remember? Joey Drew was petty, manipulative, power-mad, who slave drove his workers, caused an incredible stressful work environment--and y’know, bottomline here, he did use the Ink Machine to create the Ink Demon, threw countless people in it over the course of fucking Years (Effectively damning anyone who came into contact with the Ink machine)--and then did nothing to help anyone out of it... dying “content”. (the prick).
So I’m with Wilson on this one--Charlatan all the fucking way, and going “What the hell, Dad”.
[ Its interesting that Wilson is fascinated by machines ]
But the Ink Machine corrupts all.
- The Timeline.
in 1973, BATDR occurs.
1971, Joey Drew passes away.
( Nothing out of the ordinary yet...)
1963, BATIM occurs.
... Hold a damn minute.
Audrey is a young lady, yeah. Early 20s, yeah? Born as a wee lil kid from the Ink Machine, yeah?
So, why is she a young lady in her early 20s... when she was made sometime after BATIM? She’s younger than 12.
Nathan Arch makes mention that his last call with Joey was something good. Joey was up and about and better than ever. We can make the suggestion, thanks to in game stuffs, that Joey was raising Audrey.
Is it possible that with Joey’s death, Audrey was “aged” up to survive without him? Was she aged up by Joey?
Did something get set in motion?
... What is Audrey?
- WHAT IS AUDREY?
She’s a creation of the Ink Machine who has a Soul. This is unique, because in all other cases, a soul had to be added in order for a character / entity to be brought to life. This was a rule from day one.
Without a soul, entities are mere automatons with set behaviors. Little like a robot.
This is shown with the creation of Ink Bendy, who didn’t do much but stand around.
But somewhere along the line, that changed. Ink Bendy got hostile. How does one get hostile if they have no soul? Things in BATIM/BATDR that have no soul, are mere automatons, they don’t do anything unless specifically “programmed” to.
Which means... Ink Bendy / Ink Demon, has a soul now. And has had one all this time.
If you go through BATIM, you notice some odd things about the Ink Demon. It goes after you, but it also sometimes saves you. It doesn’t like it when you destroy its pictures, but it also doesn’t like it when people mess with you. It doesn’t go after Boris. It also doesn’t talk, it sorta just wanders around at times unless it notices you.
Up until you try to End the Cycle, you can avoid it.
At some point, between the real studio and the cycle, the Ink Demon was reintroduced into it.
At some point, Joey Drew reactivated the machine, to try and create Audrey.
In BATIM, it ends with an “Uncle Joey”.
( Now BATIM in story is a mess. Comes with having to update itself over time, rather than all at once, but let’s work with what we have, yeah? )
I think the reason Joey restarted the cycle, restarted the Machine, was to create the child. Every child called him “Uncle”, not really thinking that he was their father (after all, how many souls are in the ink machine? How many would really call Joey a “father”?).
But one would. The first creation of Joey’s through the Ink Machine. The one who didn’t have a soul at first, but gained one at some point over time before the Studio closed.
Audrey was the Original Ink Demon. And between learned hostility and childish playfulness and tantrums, she was our villain in BATIM.
The only soul the ink machine could “make”.
- THE NEW INK DEMON
... So where did the new one come from?
Well. Windows are the eyes to the Soul.
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Wilson is not all seeing, He doesn’t see everything. We know this, otherwise, he would’ve gotten Audrey the moment she awoke in the Cycle. Send a Keeper, and all is done.
But the Ink Demon does. It’s presence will appear in the ether (THE INK DEMON IS COMING), and if you don’t hide quick, it’ll get you automatically. It does know the area you are in, and will come after you. Its why those machines have to be on, or it’ll just fucking appear.
So what does this have to do with Wilson?
Well. Let’s say that eyes can show a soul (not everything has eyes, and sometimes those eyes are covered). No matter what world he lies in, one of Wilson’s eyes is either bad or missing.
... And how would one rule the cycle, after all, when the Ink Demon does? What happens when the Ink Demon is just automaton, with its old soul now loose in another world?
By giving up a soul. Perhaps... Giving up half a soul? (One eye missing / half a soul missing ), and to an Ink Demon.
Who’s form suddenly changes dramatically. Who can talk now. Who can Hunt.
So unlike the deformed demon of BATIM, who couldn’t speak, and couldn’t run, and mostly just stumbled.
... and who would you suppose would’ve told Wilson to do that? Who would’ve known?
- This also explains where Tiny Bendy came from. This childish friendly Bendy who seemingly simply appeared out of the Ink Demon through unknown means. Just as the Memory items are of Wilson’s childhood--perhaps the Tiny Bendy is the inner child?
- WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?
Here’s what I think went down.
Joey Drew sends letters to various old “friends” to gain their attention, those who left the studio just in time anyway, and lure them back into the Ink Machine for the cycle.
He does this as he restarts the cycle, again and again, to create his perfect child. Failed ones refuse to call him father (Going instead to “uncle”--because no soul in that machine is going to call this madman father, save one).
During one of Henry’s runs, perhaps the very last one, Joey succeeds in creating Audrey, using the only soul the machine ever created--the Old Ink Demon.
There is no Ink Demon, so the cycle seemingly stops.
But the Ink Machine takes a toll on Health, so Joey is dying. He sets up a construct that possibly houses his soul upon his death, in order for have Audrey inherit the Ink Machine and the Cycle. He uses this to age Audrey up to survive without him.
She doesn’t remember things--the Joey construct will claim that she made herself forget--but of course she’s not going to remember. Artificially aged up to survive without Joey, and she’s less than 12 years old, possibly even younger (at the very least, 2 years ).
Nathan Arch sets up Archgate Studios, possibly under the influence of the Ink Machine, and against what his son suggests. Wilson Arch isn’t very happy about glorifying Joey Drew’s work.
But then Wilson runs into the Ink Machine.
The construct of Joey Drew meets Wilson Arch, very possibly through the “whispers” of the Ink Machine. And why wouldn’t Joey affect Wilson? Wilson, who was Nathan Arch’s son, with the full successful childhood, son to a very successful man.
Such a man would be useful, to help complete  a more perfect child. Especially one who “needs” her Inheritance.
So the Construct of Joey instructs Wilson on how to control the cycle, by reawakening the ink demon (in exchange for a part of a soul). With that soul, Memories form the new Keys to the Ink Realm to “appease the gods”, just as the items of the studio once did--only this time, its for one “god” specifically (Audrey, the inheritor).
Overtime, The New Ink Demon becomes a problem in the new Cycle. Overtime, Wilson doesn’t do too well--health problems from dealing with the Machine, personality, social, emotional and history problems from missing half a soul.
The Construct of Joey finds this an opportunity to “invite” Audrey again. Perhaps convinced Wilson that the Ink Demon could be combated and usurped. It was technically done before.
But to do so, we need the perfect soul--Audrey.
So Wilson kidnaps Audrey into the Cycle, and that’s when BATDR.
In the End, Wilson gets defeated and “Banished” to gods knows where (probably the Ink), Joey gets what he wants--and we get a suspiciously child-like Bendy out of the deal.
And in the End, the Creator Lied to Us.
--THE ADDENDUM
- Time for the HC Fanon Funstuffs.
 The year is 1973. Wilson’s Age, his off-handed fascination with engineering and machines, and his inclinations towards sailors; and the fact that his janitor uniform looks suspiciously like Naval Coveralls--all suggest to me, that Wilson was probably a Veteran of WW2 from the US Navy, if not self-enlisted, then definitely a draftee. Which means he went through the Pacific Front, given the US naval battles of the time.
Not gonna say for certain if he was in before or after Pearl Harbor, nothing suggests that... maybe.
But this does help explain his fascination with Engineering (if he was on a ship, lots of Engineering going on), the fascination with Martime environments or Sailors; the semi-militant way he runs the cycle, including wartime propaganda and lots of ship-like announcements over comms.
And the fact that he’s seemingly still in his “janitor” uniform--its more than likely, he was in Naval Coveralls in his Ink Form.
... It also doesn’t hurt that Wilson himself as a design reference Popeye the Sailor Man.
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All the reasons why Zoe is a Mary Sue.
1. Characters are made ooc when Zoe’s around.
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Marinette met Zoe and She quickly began spilling her heart out by talking about she kept falling and discussed how she had a crush. Then she gave Zoe her phone number. Marinette talked about how she fell all the time and discussed how she fell in love. Then soon after, In Queen Banana, She gave Zoe the Bee Miraculous even though She only knew her for a short amount of time.
Does this sound like something Marinette would do if it was someone else?
Not really. Marinette doesn’t like talking about herself and her feelings in front of strangers. She usually only opens up if She’s with people who have been her friends for a while. (Although she will occasionally make exceptions if Adrien is involved) Marinette also doesn’t hand out Miraculouses so fast after meeting someone. Every other character has to know Marinette for at least 1 season.
Marinette isn’t the only one that’s ooc when it comes to Zoe.
How did Zoe get a name that’s so close to Chloe’s if Audrey can’t remember Chloe’s name? Plus why would she give Zoe a similar name when she doesn’t even like Chloe? The only other times that siblings names are that close to each other is if they’re twins. (I know Juleka and Luka weren’t always Twins but still, they got retconned to be Twins.)
Audrey completely left Chloe in another country yet She stayed in the exact same State as Zoe?
Andre showed no signs of not wanting to be a Mayor prior to Season 4 yet Zoe comes around and he suddenly reveals that he gave up on his old dream? Andre always does what Chloe wants him to do yet he refused to send Zoe away?
Chloe had become worse at around the same time that Zoe was introduced.
Plagg had quickly complimented Zoe when she first became Vesperia. How often does Plagg compliment someone else that fast? At least Félix had given Adrien, Plagg’s favorite food which caused him to earn Plagg’s forgiveness.
2. Zoe doesn’t have The Personality that she should have given her backstory.
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The point of giving a character a Backstory, especially a Tragic one is to explain their PRESENT behavior.
Zoe has been left at a boarding school and She began being bullied when She stopped pretending to be someone that she wasn’t. Then She went to join Audrey, Chloe and Andre in Paris.
These are lists of beliefs that someone with that backstory could develop. (Taken from the website One stop for writers.)
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(1 = Being abandoned/shunned. 2 = Having Neglectful parents. 3 = Discovering that one’s parent has another family. 4 = Being bullied. )
To be fair, Zoe does express a couple of these thoughts occasionally. However Zoe usually doesn’t express this stuff at all.
Before anyone suggests “Maybe the writers don’t want to show how a backstory can affect a person” Let’s compare Zoe to characters with similar backstories.
Marinette’s been bullied for years. As a result, Marinette has been shown hating how Chloe can get away with everything. Marinette’s been shown being insecure multiple times. Marinette has been shown being passive and it’s canon that she didn’t start standing up for herself until Alya came around.
Colt was abusive and it’s stated that Felix didn’t have any friends. As a result, Felix doesn’t like people much. Felix often fights with others. Felix hates the word “Monster!” because Colt often called him that. Felix likely mocked Nino’s “Bros stick together” because nobody (except Amelie) stuck by him.
Gabriel is extremely neglectful at best, abusive at worst. As a result, Adrien been shown sacrificing himself multiple times and during Guilt Trip, He appeared to be trying to cataclysm himself. In Gamer, while playing, Adrien commented on how he was pretty much not even there due to how good Marinette was. Adrien was shown to be passive too.
3. Everyone has to like her otherwise they are a unredeemable villain.
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Marinette? She’s the main Hero and She’s Zoe’s first friend.
Mylene, Rose, Ivan, Alya and so on? They all quickly agreed to be Zoe’s friends after meeting her. Every single one of them is a Hero.
Andre? He ends up disowning Chloe and adopting Zoe as part of his redemption.
Felix? Zoe isn’t allowed to properly meet him because He’ll have to like her, which will be too ooc for him. (I know that technically, they saw each other during Strike Back however they didn’t exchange any words or have any meaningful interactions.)
Audrey? Terrible human being. She doesn’t like Zoe.
Chloe? She doesn’t like Zoe and She’s evil.
4. She’s used to show off how horrible Chloe is as well as how much Thomas Astruc hates Chloe.
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Thomas Astruc didn’t hide what he was doing.
His self insert was around during Queen Banana. He talked about how sometimes Writers rewrite the script. Zoe was to get one of the lead roles.
Every character’s relationship with Zoe is the opposite of the relationship that they had with Chloe.
At the end of season 5, Zoe gets adopted by Andre whereas Chloe gets disowned. Chloe’s forced to stay with their abusive Mother.
Zoe gets to keep The Bee Miraculous permanently in the Season 5 ending, which is exactly what Chloe wanted.
Since Zoe’s backstory didn’t affect her much, The only reason Why the Writers gave Zoe a tragic backstory is so that Chloe will look even worse because Zoe had similar problems but she turned out fine.
He had characters compare Chloe and Zoe and made visual comparisons between Chloe and Zoe, with Zoe always being superior. Please note the ONLY other characters that got compared to each other like this were Adrien and Felix. (We all know Thomas Astruc never misses an opportunity to have Adrien be superior to Félix because of how much he hates Félix and how PV fans don’t understand why he replaced Félix with Adrien. )
The reason why Zoe doesn’t want to go back to New York is so that Chloe will look more cruel for wanting her gone.
Zoe gets The Bee Miraculous but has a Wasp theme.
5. Everything about Zoe is copied from another character.
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Having Audrey for a Mother? Chloe.
Good Person with bad relatives? Kagami and Adrien.
Clothing style? Marinette.
Colors? Chloe.
Dream to be a actress? Mylene.
Personality? Rose and Marinette.
Dyed hair? Juleka.
Wearing a Hat in her hair? Mylene.
Been bullied? Marinette.
Absent Father? Juleka.
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dragoneyes618 · 2 years
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Auradon is used to just sending all problems to the Isle. The minute a problem is NOT on the Isle they have no clue what to do.
In no particular order:
Jane, daughter of Fairy Godmother, stealing the wand (first movie). Faced no consequences except being grounded by her mother.
CJ Hook running amok around the school, crashing the Neon Lights Ball, and tying up KING Ben (Wicked World). Was able to escape and was never shown onscreen to be caught. Apparently later crashed a different party and no one did anything.
Freddie Facilier hiding CJ in her dorm room and covering the latter’s tracks (Wicked World). Was able to just keep attending Auradon Prep like normal.
Arabella, niece of Ariel, stealing her grandfather’s trident (Rise of the Isle of the Lost). Mal, Evie, Carlos, and Jay (and possibly Ben? I don’t remember) went and got it back for her. Arabella faced no consequences at all, because no one had even noticed it was missing yet.
Whatever it was that Zevon, son of Yzma, did (Wicked World). I haven’t watched it, but - shrinking people, jewels, planning to take over Auradon. Was sent back to the Isle by Ben. All right, so he faced consequences.
Uma, daughter of Ursula, taking the king hostage, escaping the Isle, that whole thing at Cotillion (second movie). Despite the guards of Auradon apparently being mobilized to search for her, remained free and hidden for at least a year (given that the second movie takes place six months after the first, and that they graduate in the third).
And of course....
Princess Audrey, daughter of Aurora and Philip, stealing Maleficent’s scepter, putting everyone at Jane’s birthday party to sleep and turning the rest of the kingdom into stone, turning Mal into an old woman and Ben into a Beast, and taking Celia hostage (third movie). Faced no consequences shown onscreen.
Oh, and way back at the beginning, when Mal, Evie, Carlos, and Jay broke into the museum, they were never caught.
This leaves Zevon, son of Yzma, a minor character in Descendants, appearing only in Wicked World, as the ONLY CHARACTER who has ever faced a penalty for his crimes.
...Auradon has no clue how to handle this, do they.
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The Trial of Audrey Parker
Nearly at the end of season one on the @havenfanrewatch already! My thoughts on episode 11;
It might not be the happiest story line, but I think Nathan and Garland are so well done in this. The writing, the acting; it builds on both their characters and the wider story line too (with Garland knowing more about what the Troubles are than he said to Nathan). 
Love this from Garland: “ I may not be the best father in the world, but there's a reason I'm the chief.” So True
It’s a great Duke episode too, for similar reasons in that it builds on his character and his back story: the arguing with Julia about his life; his bad ass moments with his stored guns and being ready to shoot their kidnappers in the face. Love it.
Like this: “I'm an exceptional crook.” Perfect
I’d love to know what each and every one of those books Duke has on his shelves is
Love the X-Files reference in Howard and Audrey’s conversation XD
Excellent Criminal-With-A-Heart-Of-Gold episode
This ep has one of the behind the scenes facts I always remember; Emily Rose feeling really sea sick while they were out at sea (because the boat was rocking about so much because it was not actually entirely sea worthy in the strictest sense of the term) and having to lie down between takes. 
I love Garland and Duke’s exchange when they get off the boat and Garland asks Duke about Tobias being all beaten up. (“What happened there?” / “He fell. A lot.” / “Rough seas?” / “Sounds good to me.”) Logically, Garland has almost as much reason to dislike/distrust Duke as Nathan does, but he doesn’t really seem to in that moment.
Howard and Garland’s conversation at the very end is obviously meant to be intriguing, and it works! I’d love to see their back story; how well they really know each other. Did they speak in the 1980s? How often do they talk now? arrgghh so many questions
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motherofplatypus · 1 year
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Chloe is the worst character written in the show, along with Lila The Plot Device, Adrien The Lack of Importance Main Character, Marinette The Wasted Potential, Emilie The We-Know-Next-To-Nothing-About-Her-For-5-Seasons, and Gabriel The Dumbest Villain To Ever Exist (except that one time in Heroes’ Days special). The writers made her evil, then make us sympathize for her, then make her so vile she’s practically not even a human.
This short fic here is my way to keep her being as evil as she is, but give her a reason why she’s becoming even worse than before.
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Chloe is many things, except dumb. Sure, she admits, there were times where she’s so dense with obvious facts and her grades are above average literally because of Sabrina. But, socially, she’s practically a genius. She’s aware of how people perceive her. She’s aware of how much people hate her, so much that she can feels it on her skin.
She always told herself, “People are jealous because you have the power while they don’t”, “That’s just how common people sees those with power”, “They’re losers who can do nothing but envying those above them”.
Reasons after reasons she told to herself, more than half of them that she actually believed. So she has no reason to actually care about their feelings, no reason at all. Because that’s what she knows. That’s what she’s been taught by her mother: If you have power, put people who don’t have it in their place. That’s all she ever knew.
So, she put people in their place. She made their life suffer. She made them serve her. She made them fear her.
Being mean is power. Fear is power. More power means she’s exceptional. Being exceptional means her mother will approve her as her daughter. That’s all she knew.
Until one day, she no longer knew anything.
Ever since Heroes' Day, she’s been having conflict with herself. She found it exhilarating to be helpful. She felt joy to protect people. She was proud of herself, in a way that she never felt before. That was the moment she realized how it feels to be kind. To be not mean. To have power and use it not for her own personal gain (well, half of it).
These new feelings felt great. She wanted to do more of it. But she knew she cannot do that as her civilians identity. She knew she can only do that when she’s Queen Bee. And she knew she can never be her ever again, since her identity was exposed, by herself.
Anyone would say, “Oh, just do it then. People will love it”. Yes, people will love it. But the one person she wanted to impress will never love it.
Audrey Bourgeois sees kindness as something the lower class do because they don’t have the power to make other people do things for them. She sees it as weakness, as something ordinary. Something unexceptional. Chloe cannot let herself be unexceptional.
It’s killing her inside. After finding out a new feeling that made her feel like someone new, someone better, she had to choose between being that new person or to impress her mother.
She remembered all the vile things she had done, especially to that baker girl. She remembered why exactly she hated her. Indeed, it was because she’s just a baker girl and it’s not that hard to make her suffer. But more than that, she knew she did it all out of jealousy.
Chloe was jealous by how easy it was for that baker girl to receive her parents’ love. How easy it was to love them, and to be loved back. That baker girl never had to work so hard to receive love. Not the kind of love where your father buys you everything, but the pure and kind and gentle love.
Chloe dreamed about it, just enough to sometimes wake her up at night with bitter reality greeted her. How it would feel to be loved unconditionally. How it would feel to be able to be kind because you’re able to. That sweet dream slowly turned into her nightmare.
None of that will ever happen. That beautiful dream will forever stays a dream. It will appears in her sleep, but never in her reality. She had to accept that, and live with the bitter and violent reality that she’s facing.
So, she made her choice. She chose to be mean. She chose to have people hate her. She chose to be worse than ever before, even if that means losing her childhood friend.
Everything, for that approval.
Everything, for that love.
Everything, to be exceptional.
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On Audrey discovering Gabriel I can actually see it, she was quite capable of praising Marinette and I think it adds an interesting and messy power dynamic to the ties between the families.
Like you have Andre and Gabriel who are friends, who became more like 'friends'., but have a history regardless.
Then you have Audrey who deems Gabriel exceptional and makes him famous, rocketing him into the same sphere of wealth as herself & Andre.
She then marries Andre even if its more of a "Well a woman my age is expected to get married and he works" kind of thing.
With history, industry, discovery and varying shades of 'friendship' the families are intertwined, but also have complicated power dynamics.
Like let's remember that while Gabriel was willing to sub Audrey that was explicitly for supervillain reasons. The moment that wasn't relevant he went full on to kiss the ring. But by the same token despite it obviously being something Gabriel did, because otherwise Nathalie would not have endorsed it, Audrey plays along with the farce.
They both have influence over Andre despite him technically being more powerful than either of them at least in Paris, and both likely profit of his position as hotelier and mayor to a great degree.
& at some point they decided their kids would be friends, despite Gabriel & Emilie's notorious isolationism and possessiveness. But its also a relationship, weirdly, that the Agreste seem more invested in that the Bourgeois. If only by degrees.
Let alone how that ever influx flow of money, influence, business and power might affect the kids perspective on things. These are all people who could and may one day destroy each other, but also profit off one another and tie so much back to their monetary margins before anything else. All while being varying shades of toxic.
What the hell kind of model for friendship did they even model for their children?
Honestly I go back and forth on it.
Like.
In general I do think that Audrey did see Gabe's talent and helped bring the spotlight to him.
But I also think that it wasn't entirely to the point where he'd be nothing without her. He'd still get where he was, she just sped it up a touch.
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lurkinglurkerwholurks · 7 months
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Caring For His Boy
First posted: December 17, 2018
Focuses on: Alfred Pennyworth, Bruce Wayne
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This is my “behind the scenes” series where I indulge myself horribly by annotating my fics. Link to the fic itself above. Thoughts below the cut.
Another BatFam Christmas stocking fic, another attempt at a dual meaning title. They just make me happy, okay.
This one was for @renecdote: "Created to fill renecdote's BatFam Christmas Stocking prompt "Bruce worrying over sick or injured kids." I don't know that this is quite what you had in mind, but hopefully it's okay."
It was my first time writing Alfred POV, which made me nervous, but also it was fun—though I hadn't yet befriended Audrey to be my Brit speak check. Alas.
It was 8 AM in Sheffield, a glorious, soft morning with a whisper of a breeze and birdsongs that filtered in through the open window.
Why Sheffield? We don't know. That's just how the opening line popped into my head, so then I had to scramble to figure out what was going on and why.
Bruce had never been one to show emotion, even as a boy. Animation was doled out purposefully, as a tool, as a distraction, as a lever. Alfred had more practice reading him than most, and he didn’t think he was imagining the quiver of tension in Bruce’s voice.
This is one of those bits that I work myself into a frustration over, because do I think that Bruce was a generally reserved child? Yes. Was that heightened further after the death of his parents? Also yes. Would stiff-upper-lip British reserve Alfred note Bruce's own emotional reticence as something exceptional? I'm not sure. Whether a thing is true or not is irrelevant when the question is whether the POV would note it.
What did sick mean? A reaction to fear toxin? A new horror from Ms. Isley?
Alfred is so exceedingly British.
It had certainly been a learning experience, one filled with more than a little uncertainty on everyone’s part, but Alfred had yet to hear Bruce sound so shaken.
Ah, the true terror of help, I need an adult... what do you mean I am the adult???
He wondered how Bruce was dealing with the vomit. The boy had always been a bit of a sympathetic puker.
Alfred would not say puker. This is a from-real-life trait I pulled from the males in my family. Weak stomachs, all of them.
“Master Dick will need to stay hydrated. I recommend alternating ginger ale for the nausea and one of those obnoxious sports drinks you so enjoy for the electrolytes. If he continues to complain of aches, you may give him the paracetamol in the upstairs medicine cabinet, but mind the dosage.”
I did the googling for this and then years later had to do the googling again for my first fic in the Mutual Aid series. Ah, parallels. At least I remembered to have Alf call it paracetamol. Also, when I was a kid, I only associated Gatorade with vomiting for this very reason and couldn't drink it for years. Same with Sprite. (Don't drink Sprite, the sugar will make your nausea worse.)
Alfred had several fond memories of sitting next to the bedside of one sweaty-haired boy, a hand pinning open a book, and the other resting atop small fingers. He also had other memories, dimmer but no less visceral, of being a relatively young man himself, faced with the enormous responsibility of caring for a vulnerable life. Of keeping a brave face while internally despairing of the task before him. He was glad that one set of these memories had stuck with Bruce, while the other had not.
Ah, adulthood. It's scary to look back and realize how much your own parents were likely panicking over things you trusted them to handle. 😅
Alfred fics always get some of the lowest engagement and it's such a pity.
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