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randomnameless · 4 months
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A Minor dispute.
Put it behind you. Deal with it.
No, this isn't related to devoted fans and their discourse lol (even if i had to take a jab at them with the title lol)
Ike: I have to ask, Sephiran. What are you after? What’s this all about? Sephiran: Why do you wish to know? You would achieve nothing by learning my reasons. You would help no one. I lost faith in lesser beings, and desire an end to them. That’s all. Ike: So why did you save me on that day? Sephiran: May I ask you a favor, Ike? Tell me how you feel about it now. Can you bear recalling those horrific memories? Ike: Yes… I’m fine, now. But I suppose at the time I wouldn’t have been able to take it. Sephiran: All beings endure tragedies for as long as they continue to live. It has always been the case that suffering is unavoidable. And this grim reality plays out over and over, in every country, under every ruler… As long as there are beings who feel, they will feel pain. Ike: So what? We should all just give in and die? Put it behind you. Deal with it. Sephiran: Do not make light of this… Ike: I’m not. Sephiran, I’m extremely grateful that you once helped me through a terrible time. But we have to accept that occasionally we all have to deal with hard times. I’ve had pain, I’ve had suffering, and I have gotten up and moved on. I don’t try to forget what happened that day. I just accept it… And neither that or anything else will ever stop me. Sephiran: You are a strong man, Ike, son of Gawain. But not everyone is as strong as you…
This scene is unlocked if you've seen Ike's FB.
Of course, Ike here doesn't know the fuck he is talking about, as he later expresses by wondering why Sephiran is suddenly called Lehran (maybe if the game left Miccy/Yune talk to him before the start of the map, instead of letting him do all the convo it would have been different?).
So, in a way, it isn't as callous as Ike telling Lehran to put the genocide of his people "behind him" or to "deal with it", because he doesn't know what Sephiran is talking about.
But in a way, I have the feeling if Claude or Petra told Dedue to "put the massacre of his family" behind him or to "deal with it", Claude or Petra would have received a certain amount of shit, even if, when they would have said those, they wouldn't have known what the fuck Dedue went through.
Anyways, Ike later learns what, or who, Sephiran is, and talks to him. Maybe he will apologise for his callous words, spoken when he didn't realise what he was talking about ?
Ike: Sephiran... I mean, Lehran... Lehran: I can't apologize enough. I was so terribly mistaken, and now there's nothing I can do to help. Ike: Don't worry. Lehran: What? Ike: Wanting to do something that matters is enough. Sometimes, how you feel is more important than how you act. Lehran: Ike I... there's no one that I think more highly of... Ike: No time for compliments. We still have work to do here. Lehran: Yes... yes we do.
Lehran apologises for having wanted to destroy the world (and drops Altina in a trashcan because Ike is now the person he thinks the most highly of!) - and in the general scale of things, yes, Sephiran has much to apologise for, so he better start pulling his weight and try to make up for having tried to kill everyone.
But the "your people were genocided? No biggie, deal with it!" is completely ignored - or it is, again, another example of Ike talking shit and the game convoluting himself to make sure he never faces any consequences, even if, in this situation, the consequence would just have been an apology, like the one he gave to, iirc, Mordecai and Lethe after calling him subhumans but not realising calling someone "subhuman" was insulting.
Sure, the line he gives after the fight against Sephiran still holds value :
Ike: If death is what you really want, then I’m not going to let it happen on my watch. I don’t care what you’ve gone through. I don’t care how much you’ve suffered. What you’ve done is unforgivable.
It's not because you suffered, or went through the worst humankind can offer, that you can inflict the same on people!
When Lords like Marth, Seliph, Leif, Roy, Eirika, even Elincia try to understand people and what led them to act as they did - without ever giving excuses or wondering if they could walk with their respective antagonists - Ike here refuses to understand, and only condemns.
Is it because Ike isn't a Lord, so he isn't concerned with some general "making sure this situation never happens again"?
But then, he is the one to say those :
“But, even the dumbest creatures will love their family, their friends and… even love others. They will all have things that they can’t afford to lose.” “We know that we’ve messed up. We’ll do our best to avoid more war and to make peace our highest priority. Ashera, just give us one more chance. All we ask is for one more chance.” “You were like a mother to all of life– Your children still require a mother like you. When you watch over us, we don’t always do things that make you happy and sometimes we even disappoint you. Still, I think we would like you to continue watching over us. How about it?” “We all need to work hard to accept each other. As long as we don’t try and run away from our mistakes, then I’m sure we’ll be able to see each other again one day.”
How can you do you "best" to avoid more wars, if you don't even understand why the current one started, or don't care about the reasons that led the fucker who started this current war to, well, start it?
How can we talk about acceptance if we don't "care" about what the others live through?
So, on top of writing a check his ass can't cash - since he will leave Tellius and not be there to "avoid wars" or make sure people "accept each other" after promising the goddesses "we" will exactly do that - Ike's words here are empty.
-> In a nutshell, Ike reveals with those battle quotes and conversations that he is not ruler/leader material - but we knew that since RD's start since we followed Miccy and Elincia - and more importantly isn't the kind of person asking "why" things happen, they just happen but somehow everything will work out when it will happen again - because the why, or the cause, wasn't identified - and I think it's a perfectly fitting answer for the Tellius Saga and the larger Branded "issue" : we will never know why it happens, it just happens.
(can we say the epilogue, with Ashunera returning, is an ultimate "fuck you" to Ike's empty promises at the end of this chapter, since it starts with another war happening in the background?)
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Back to that nonsense of a battle convo, I find it really interesting how Ike is basically thanking Sephiran for having wiped his memory when he was a child, to help him "deal" with the fact he witnessed his father stab his mother, because at that time (when he was a kid), he wouldn't have been able to deal with it.
But then, Ike tells Sephiran to "deal with" the tragedies he witnessed and lived through...
After thanking him for sparing him the "deal with it" step- he now asks Sephiran to take - when he was a child.
WTF?
Ike explains how he is thankful, but he ultimately had to "got up" and "move on" from the pain, and accept it. And that's precisely the point, Ike managed to take on that pain, "get up and move on" thanks to Sephiran's own meddling and help - else, by his own admission, he wouldn't have been able to "take it".
But now, he asks Sephiran to take his pain, without any magic amnesia to help, and deal with it?
And while I hate the idea of trauma olympics, grown-up Ike (even in POR) can now deal with the fact his dad killed his mother thanks to Lehran's magic amnesia - but he tells Lehran to deal with and get over - 1) the genocide of his tribe, 2) assassination of his great (etc) granddaughter because she had his blood, 3) the loss of his powers for a crap reason and the knowledge that laguz are bound to "die" if they mingle too much with beorcs as he personally witnessed it, 4) severe depression after realising he is not a laguz anymore but not even a beorc since beorcs will use pitchforks at him even if they regarded him 10 seconds before as sage, and the rest of Tellius' general fuckery? - without magic amnesia or plot hax?
Reyson was very close to pull something similar in FE9 when he tried to erase people in the Forest using "ancient magic", but abandoned the idea when Leanne was found - if PoR!Ike learnt that, would he have told Reyson to "get over" the heron genocide and Naesala's betrayal?
Of course not, because I'm pretty sure Ike knows, before meeting Reyson and even picking Leanne, what happened in Serenes.
And in RD, when he says those words, he doesn't know (but he later will!) that Sephiran is a heron.
Tl;Dr :
Supreme Leader's "minor dispute" is frowned upon by everyone, even if she might genuinely not know about what Nemesis did that made Rhea so enraged, in a doylist reading, Supreme Leader is a character who ignores a genocide to push her own specist agenda.
Doylist reading of that RD scene is, Ike telling Sephiran to man up and deal/get over the genocide of his people - but unlike Supreme Leader, when he comes to learn the truth of Sephiran's despair, he dgaf.
Thankfully, this scene is only triggered if Sephiran survives, so Ike can later explain his behaviour : he doesn't care what kind of suffering Sephiran endured, since nothing justifies what he was trying to do (kill everyone).
Even if the thing he should care, but doesn't want to, is, for part, a genocide.
#character rant#character salt#i mean when y'all saw Ike and FE10 you could have expected that lol#re-reading the Tellius scripts with the same fine toothed comb I used for Fodlan's is maddening#because I remembered Tellius as a saga I generally liked and who had a sort of solid/nice plot#and then it falls apart#especially regarding Ike#he isn't a lord like the other protagonists from the other games in the franchise i have the feeling that's why his writing is so convolute#is FE tellius a story where the player follows Gerik instead of the Renais twins?#But then Gerik gets the killing blow and the general plot importance that should have gone to the twins#Gerik is the one to tell fuck you to Fomortiis when Miccy can't even talk to Yune when she departs#sure i'm the first to make fun of the cheap sad'n'lonely backstories used in modern FE to justify the worst shit#but Serenes massacre was developed in FE9 the nonsensical branded and laguz death is more and more developed in FE10#and we're just supposed to tell him dgaf uwu when we proceed with the plot?#not even one 'i understand what you went through and i'll make sure it won't happen ever again but you really need to pay for your crimes"#stuff?#FFS I just realised#Ike says this to Ashera when she says she wants to erase humanity because they start wars#“we're not perfect yes you have a point but we will do better so don't kill everyone and i'll fight to save everyone”#but Lehran? Fuck him I guess#I made a quick joke some years ago about him and rhea being similar on a surface level#but look at how they're treated by the game lol
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todayisafridaynight · 1 month
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everyday i constantly think of masato's wheelchair and if that's his only one/main one no wonder he's so pissed at everyone
#snap chats#someone pointed this out to me like last year so im stealing it sorry cause I Think Of It Constantly#the handling of masato's disability will forever annoy me esp with how vague it is but esp his chair#one day ill draw masato with an appropriate wheelchair. maybe then he'll be happy for once#in a way i guess it could tie into how restricted or trapped he felt since the type of chair he's shown is more like. a hospital one#and not one youd really use as a regular user- like in that vein it is a bit of storytelling in that he can ONLY go out with help#since hospital chairs are SO much different from home chairs ESPECIALLY in regards to mobility and independence the user has#AND NOT TO MENTION HOW UNCOMFORTABLE THOSE CHAIRS ARE get his ass a proper cushion P L E A S E#like it portrays the idea that its unfathomable for him to go anywhere on his own and so in that vein . Interesting Storytelling#theres a lot of implications going on here if im so honest and again it makes for Really Interesting Story Telling#however i refuse to give rgg credit like that when it comes to disabilities. ... they havent earned that from me yet#see this is why the vagueness of his condition annoys me because he's shown to be independent enough to roll himself to his elevator#and presumably get himself dressed but he cant have a proper chair ?#because ik there are people who have expressed they have conditions where even writing is tiring#so if his condition was in-line with that and it was hard for him to push himself in his chair then i could buy it#obviously the issue lies with his lungs but i just want to know the full extent yk...#to wrap this up tho ive been thinking of character design in rgg and how we dont give credit to it enough#sooooo if i make a second post ten minutes from now thats why cause i keep forgetting to spam my thoughts on here LMAO#ok bye
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sojutrait · 2 years
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throwing my hat in the ring for the discourse™️, but to me trepidation about depicting teenage pregnancy is 100% valid but at the same time treating teen moms as social outcasts and the whole “don’t talk about it” angle kinda throws me. you can acknowledge a situation is not ideal while also not treating teen pregnancy as some kind of taboo death sentence, that just further stigmatizes it TEW ME anyways djrkfdjrk
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attex · 3 months
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Would there be any point where nsh may possibly physically harm 5p over his possession over moon?
the only possibility of this occurring properly is if moon legit fucking Dies bcz of 5p in some manner . otherwise he wouldn't do anything physically, there is no way he could get away with that and not cause moon intense agony
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sevicia · 4 months
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What if there was an old man dying from cancer and his last wish was for his "daughter" to shave "her" legs ... ?
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sierice · 1 year
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OK finally making a list of all the rr apollo/toa related playlists i have saved instead of just constantly updating that one ask from forever ago. anyways
• human at heart, despite by haterism
• toa songz by T (T doing gods work as usual pray hands emoji)
• god of the sun, and the world's worst mortal ☀ by yaboi
• Reading the Trials of Apollo by Julia Helena
• lester/apollo: a playlist by neeks
• the sun singing with flowers by txny_dragon
• Apollo by Ty Lee (im not sure if this one is about rr apollo or not- lmk if any of yall know)
• apollo by poppy ♦
• Trials of Apollo by edwardianbookwhore
• "call on me, i'll be there for you." by greency
• Apollo • Lester by priapus
• The Trials of Apollo 🌻🎶🎸🏹🌅☀🌞 by Lirael
• A-SIDE (Bro Get a Better Hairstyle Oh My God) by flufflecat (THE apollo playlist. listen to it now its beautiful)
• B-SIDE (Lester? More like less... Idk i got nothin) by flufflecat (HILARIOUS naming choice btw)
• apollo vibes.- by dehlia. (it says collaborative playlist but i wasn't entirely sure about the rest so. yeah)
• a reflection of magnificence; apollo by myra 💫 (CRIMINALLY underrated playlist)
bonus- meg playlists:
• peaches by :) (OBSESSED.)
• a sprout grows at the end of time by haterism (DOUBLE OBSESSED)
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nomaishuttle · 1 year
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IDK. basicslly i wish people wouldnt act like dropping out means youre lazy or stupid or just didnt try when likee. every single dropout i know Tried so so so hard. and only dropped out when they literally couldnt anymore. yk.
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toonophiliac · 11 months
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some of ya’ll got drama brain worms. I’m constantly reminded why i choose not to interact w anyone in any given fandom aside from a few choice people here and there (love ya’ll who choose to interact with me btw 💕). none of these strangers have ur back or give a fuck about you. just know some of us are watching for who is willing to cry wolf at the drop of a dime. Its also weird ya’ll call everyone else into question if they just happen to interact or associate w them to any degree. you’re so self righteous it’s embarrassing
hey guys, there’s this hip new word; it’s called “nuance”. majority of the time these people arent a threat and dont deserve the same treatment given to abusers and groomers.
I’m not even worried on my own behalf, it just gets tiring having to be like, oh I can’t interact with this person’s work anymore lest people think i condone and agree with everything they’ve done. and not to mention these people don’t deserve the treatment and stress ya’ll give them. you’re not as great as you think you are
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In a topic change how are you enjoying MTMTE so far? Any characters you are liking more now that you're getting into the story? Anything unexpected you find you hadn't learned via Fandom Osmosis?
Oh it's fucking lovely!
I've certainly found myself getting more attached to characters who before I didn't consider much (such as Chromedome or Fort Max), and I was pretty surprised by a lot of the Tyrest stuff! I also hadn't known exactly how Overlord had gotten on the ship, and tbh before I started I had assumed that Getaway was just one of those guys who were automatically on the ship. (Plus, a nice amount of stuff I vaguely knew about is happening a lot earlier than I anticipated)
And just how many times they use the term interfacing like sure I expected it a few times but not this many like oh he knew what was up, like I did not expect this number of crude jokes
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bicyclepainting · 2 years
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aaron’s zodiac chart
aaron headcanon zodiac chart time <3 it feels weird not to put a big intro paragraph here but i don’t have much to say other than i love aaron. without further ado (character analysis and astrology ramblings under cut)
masterlist to the series
sun- virgo
moon- capricorn
rising- gemini
mercury- leo
venus- virgo
mars- aries
feels a bit derivative to say one of the office bfs is an earth sign but here we are lmao i chose virgo for a few different reasons, but first and foremost i get the slightest bit of leo energy from aaron. not anywhere super major, but definitely in there. and because virgo is next to leo, virgos are statistically more likely to have leo placements and i really wanted him to have a leo mercury. virgo suns are very much known to be perfectionists. they are practical and responsible and also tend to lay low in life. they dont like the spotlight. they’re quick thinkers and usually very bright. out of all the mutable signs (virgo, pisces, gemini, sagittarius), virgo seems like the least mutable to me. thats most likely because theyre an earth sign and the earth sign stereotypes (hard working, responsible, practical, independent) are antithetical to mutable signs. not that mutable signs cant be those things, its just usually they like to sit back and let other people take control of it all. they also tend to be avoidant of things in general, especially serious topics. virgos have a very hard time with others being in control but i would say that they have a tendency to be avoidant of things like their emotions. i think all of these things apply to aaron
i talked a bit about capricorn moons in david’s post. that can be summed up to say that capricorn moons are hard working, find comfort in tradition and stability, and have a hard time expressing (or even feeling) their emotions. having a capricorn moon is a placement in detriment. this is the opposite to having a placement in its domicile. for the moon, cancer is in its domicile. this makes the opposite sign to cancer, capricorn, detriment. ive talked about signs being in their domicile before as being a very positive thing and i dont want people to read this and immediately think that because detriment placements are the opposite, that having those placements is the most terrible awful thing in the world, because its not. it just indicates an area that that person might struggle with. for example, aaron and his emotions. capricorn moons usually really appreciate acts of service (like various massages from a certain smartass), as they tend to overwork themselves.
rising sign was very difficult for me to pick out for aaron, as we dont get to see any first impression of him and we obviously don’t know what he looks like. so i wanted to look at the other kind of information we can get from a rising sign in order to pick something out i was satisfied with. one very important thing that the rising sign does is establish your chart ruler. to put this process in the most simple terms possible, to find your chart ruler look at the ruling planet of your rising sign. then look at that planet in your own chart. (mercury rules gemini, aaron has a leo mercury so that is his chart ruler) the chart ruler is a very influential and important part of a person’s chart and can indicate a lot about them. ill talk more about what having a leo mercury means in the paragraph about it, but i think its an important placement for aaron so i wanted to give him a rising sign that reflected that. mercury-ruled rising signs (gemini and virgo) tend to have elfish or bug-like features (i do mean that in the most neutral/positive way possible).
aaron and his leo mercury!!!! leo mercuries are so funny to me. they tend to be a whole lot of talk, more bark than bite, etc. they tend to have a bit of an ego on them. they are passionate speakers and usually very good at keeping peoples attention. they tend to be stubborn in their thinking. one thing we know about aaron is his fighting in the workplace with smartass. part of THAT is the leo mercury.
virgo venus is a placement in its fall. this is the opposite to an exalted placement (venus in pisces), again, not the worst thing in the world, just an area of difficulty. virgo is very much a sign of logic and analysis, it doesnt do well with the planet of love and relationships. and if aaron was having literal shouting matches with the person he had a little crush on? yeah this guy might be having a little bit of difficulty with love (said lovingly). virgo venuses are very practical in their love and affection. they are selective in their partner, but thats because once they choose someone, they are in it for the long haul. they are probably reserved around others, but very loyal and loving to their partner. i think this is all applicable to aaron
looking at the rest of his chart, aaron needed some more fire to back up his leo mercury. what better than an aries mars? THEE mars sign. aries is ruled by mars, this makes this placement in its domicile. aries mars are not afraid of confrontation. they are very passionate and have a lot of drive. they are straightforward, they know what they want and they will go after it. which i would say is accurate to aaron <3
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torchiiko · 1 year
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i have a serious problem which is i find interest in things i am not smart enough to understand
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doubleedgemode · 1 year
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It's about time I drop my class ideas for the g.o. AU:
Note. I don't think the class names end in S if you're saying it on a plural way but, whatever:
Iops: Sol, Baiken, Leo, Zako B, Kliff, Slayer and Nagoriyuki (the latter two are iops in a much more vampiric way than usual)
Sadidas: Jam (being surrounded by plants does absolutely NOT help with a flammable restaurant)
Ecaflips: Johnny, Chipp, Zako C
Cras: Bridget
Xelors: Axl, I-No, Bedman and Delilah
Fecas: Potemkin, Answer and Anji
Sacrieurs: A.B.A, Raven
Eniripsas: Faust, Fanny and Leap
Ouginaks: Izuna
Huppermages: Ky, Judgment.. Zappa too perhaps?
Osamodas: May, Giovanna and Testament
EliAtropes: Ramlethal, Happy Chaos
Eliatrope Dragon: Elphelt
A very special eliatrope/dragon: Aria/Justice/Valentine (yes they're the same person in this au. Actually, it's not set in stone but at least Justice would be a super cool dragon for sure)
EliOtropes: Dizzy, Sin
Maskeraider but, not like the canon ones, I think: Jack-O
Minor almost godly spirits which are basically personifications of the Paladir/Necrome thing: Undine and Necro, respectively (come on even his name fits)
Regular unaffiliated humans: Goldlewis, Vernon, Daryl (I might make him a hupper..? but maybe he'd then be too similar to Ky) Crow
Steamer: Haehyun and Zappa (that or a hupper or unaffiliated..)
Steamer adjacent robot or something: Robo-Ky and RK MK II
Sacrimages *: Asuka
Srams: Millia and Venom
Roublards: Zato and Zako A
Shushus: Eddie, Lucifero, Roger, S-KO, Angra, the bad guy that got ahold of Judgment and Paracelsus
Elemental/or some sort of regular dragon: Dr Paradigm (I GUESS)
As for Leopaldon.. I don't know. Maybe the human is an osa, the dog is a milou and the gear is a shushu but.. Dunno. Leopaldon is Leopaldon lmao
Idk for Ariels either.. Maybe a hupper?? Probably I'll go the boring routes or make her (spoiler) canon in this au, as the gg one, or just a high level shushu
Goldlewis' coffin friend: A very minor god who's almost in the verge of disappearing due to people not believing in them. Their only believer? Goldlewis, but he believes they're an unexplained monster (monster as in the kros.moz definition where they just commonly exist) so, they're there but not that powerful..
Janvis or whatever the jellyfish cat is called: Chacha :)
*ofc hybrid classes are a topic of contention but, they are Technically canon yet very rare. Asuka is straight up a Hupper, and probably was one before, but his perspective about pain and his eye thing that remind me of larmes de sang (sacrieur technique) so he became both. Sacrimages is a made-up word, but with Nitura calling hybrid classes a combination of their names (ex: osadida) I thought Sacrimage would fit the bill.
#Long post#U can tell I love iops.. Beloveds#Surprisingly idc as much abt huppers haha#Guilty Omelette#Footnotes: Judgment is a hupper witch like Julith#Idk if RK is a series made robot that gets a conscience OR the especific RK we know is a wak.fu era steamer (aka a person who was turned#Into a robot. Basically). Whatever the case... He's powered by weird looking crystals#Sorry do.fus era steamers. I ignored you. Wait. Maybe I should make zapppa one for variety. Shrug#Yeah I will.#Obvs El can take on a human form but Has a dragon form. She obvs doesn't look 100% human. Think of Phaeris and especially adult Grougal#From the show. Yeah#U notice no enutrofs or pandawas cause. Idk if I'll even include them. Enus are too close to some stereotypes from what I've read. I ignore#Them. Pandawas. Same but maybe not as Bad. But idk abt them#Ik enus not being a thing throws off the wo12 denomination but. Both for GO and my kros.moz things. Maybe Ouginak was in the pantheon from#The get go. He's just reclusive lol. Idk#Oops I got carried away um.#Faust is.. A necrome eniripss probably. Idk if that happens after the strive equiv or he was just like that. We have to let normal enis to#Be weird from the get go cause Equality. Fun fact. The one paladir eni dude reminds me of axl#Umm anji uses shields instead of fans. He probably doesn't use a staff. Answer n Potemkin prob do however. Though they also use shields#Idk if Pott is straight up a necro. Probably not. But the canon necro feca guy w the shield mask?? HIS VIBES..#Venom prob has a sort of skull design rather than only the eye but like. Idk.#Also u can tell I love shushus lmaoo#Sorry this is rough I'm editing as I write. I'm prob forgetting things#Suggestions for this are accepted#@people who don't know wtf I'm talking abt in regards to this au: Don't worry about it#text tag2b named
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whoviandoodler · 2 years
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It is so fucking annoying when cis men genuinely think people who were afab somehow lack the worst, lowest human impulses and therefore don't understand what it's like to deal with them and try to resist the temptation to be shitty and mean and cruel etc; they will genuinely believe that people who were afab don't get to judge them for indulging those basest bad impulses because they can't know what it's like, surely, they were afab, they're "women", and when all is sad and done they're just soft and don't get it. It is so fucking insulting to be shut down constantly for holding cis men to moral standards, so fucking infuriating to do the work every fucking day to do good, to make the right choices, to be kind or neutral when it is easier to be cruel, to be thoughtful when it's easier to be selfish and take what you want, to think before you speak when you want to be mean. It's all just so fucking tiring.
FARTS/TERFS DNI, YOU WILL BE BLOCKED
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gurorori · 9 months
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causticsunshine · 1 year
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nomaishuttle · 1 year
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i need 2 start eating vegetables. Haggard
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