#complaining and whining about fandom

[lgbtlunaverse]

It's a unique type of frustration when you agree that a character is deeply flawed but other people keep missing what's actually wrong with them and assigning them new flaws that they don't even have it's like free my man he did none of that. He did a bunch of other shit tho.

#fandom #complaining and whining about fandom #'this character is a bad person' ok yeah but not for THOSE reasons

[shikai-the-storyteller]

Tumblr is way chiller than Twitter for sure but sometimes I see a post and I'm like. Y'all DO remember this is a block game, right? You're not gonna get legitimately pissy and passive-aggressive over characters doing things in a block game, RIGHT???

#i talk #qsmp talk #Chatter: Jaiden don't do this— twitter will cancel you! #The rest of us in chat: Why should she care about anything Twitter says #People on frickin twitter AND tumblr: *whining about Jaiden* #LIKE BRO YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS LMFAOOOOOO #fandom wank #I'm gonna start unfollowing people #not even just for bad opinions I'm just tired of seeing people being mean and bitter #I'm just here to have fun I don't want to constantly see whining #Critique characters and stuff all you want that's part of the fandom experience but some of y'all are so damn mean for no reason lmao #Touch grass and seek therapy #I know me posting this is part of the ''too many people complaining'' problem but Jaiden's my gal I am a little bit annoyed by that #Again: character critique is fine #but sometimes it's just so passive-aggressive and like. written like the character did a personal attack on YOU #<- the last tag is the most important point here I think

[butwhatifidothis]

It really is strange how Edelstans simultaneously dig hard into people that don't agree with their specific interpretation of 3H to the point of being happy they manage to drive those people away... and be so upset and baffled that people become generally disinterested/actively hostile towards 3H content.

If folks get repeatedly driven out of a fandom, and that group of people repeatedly calls anyone who disagrees with their specific interpretation of 3H stupid/illiterate/"acting in bad faith"/sexist/racist/homophobic/etc., and it is repeatedly done by a group of people who insist that 3H's fandom problem is a "both sides" thing, with all of this being dragged into spaces that have nothing to do with 3H, well... obviously people are then going to start to dislike interacting with either 3H in general or its fandom in particular?

Edelstans are the ones spreading the idea that 3H's fandom in totality is shit. They keep trying to make their hands look cleaner than they are by claiming that everyone else's hands are just dirty as/even dirtier than theirs. Of course people who are unaware of everything are going to then assume that everyone's hands are dirty, thus making people not exactly want to shake hands with anyone.

Like, really now. What did they think was going to happen when they directly go after fanartists/fanfic writers who create/say things that go against the Approved Edelstan Status Quo, to the point that a non-zero amount of these creators just up and leave social media entirely? Or after they nitpick every single Disapproved Post and then lie about the post's OP? Or after it becomes a consistent pattern that people who even remotely disagree with Edelstans' opinions are always, without fail, buried with insulting and harassing anons? Or after they're shown time and time again to defend their worst actors with "well their/our victims deserved it because they said a 3H opinion we didn't agree with"? Or when they say that everyone does this shit in 3H's fandom except for them (which is either not believed because it's demonstrably untrue or is actually believed and now those people think the overwhelming majority of 3H's fandom is filled with shit)? Or when they drag 3H discourse into literally actually everything no matter how unrelated?

That with less fandom creators within the fandom space they'd get more content? That harassing and insulting people and accusing them of being this-and-that bigot is going to magically "correct" their minds into seeing The One Truth about 3H? That people are going to just look over all the shit they did just because they allocate the blame of their action on all of 3H's fandom? That people would like 3H more if they constantly remind people of the inarguable worst thing to come from 3H? That this would help 3H's general perception?

Fuckin' no, of course that's just going to make everyone fuck off from 3H. And would you look at that, a shit ton of people have fucked off from 3H since everything has been swept under a "well it'sth a bolth thides ithue tho what can ya do?" rug. And it's been swept under that rug by pretty much the only people who are pulling this shit, who then get shocked - utterly gobsmacked! - that that made them look bad too. That crying "both sides!" included themselves too and not just the people they've been harassing. That saying that the entire fandom is bad everywhere made the entire fandom look bad everywhere.

If Edelstans are really so upset that no one talks about 3H positively anymore, then maybe they should stop being the reason no one likes 3H anymore. Just a thought

#edelgard discourse #just to be safe #like I'm sorry the other parts of the fandom are of course not perfect and should ALSO be called out when they pull shit #but NO ONE is as bad as Edelstans as a group (in 3H's fandom). like. objectively #I say this as someone who is ALSO sad to see 3H become such a heated topic: #it's honestly annoying as hell to see them bitch and moan about how nobody seems to want to talk about 3H anymore #cuz like I'm sorry you do NOT get to whine about people leaving your house after you forcefully pushed them out #like this is obviously what YOU wanted!! a fandom space that is bereft of anyone you disagree with!! #if that means that the fandom is way more empty of new art maybe that says something about YOU and the people YOU wanted to be around you #maybe no one likes y'all because y'all are insufferable and not because y'all like a certain set of pixels and lines on a screen. perhaps #''they hate us because we like Edelgard'' actually it's the harassment and open sexism and victim-blaming and superiority + victim complexe #the entitlement the refusal to ever admit you're wrong about literally anything the dogpiling #the never-ending need to remind people of discourse they want to move away from #and about a million other fuckin' things #simply stop being the problem you're complaining about

[lobotomyladylives]

I’m a fujoshi rights activist I don’t even care.

my blog is a #safespace for our kind

#every criticism ive ever heard applies to hetshipping also . wonder why ppl single out gay ships when they complain abt ooc or tropes or #bad unsafe sex or whatever . like do you not see how female characters are treated by fandoms . whine about that instead it's much worse #asks

[padfootastic]

if u ‘don’t really read wips’ then do fucking better.

#brought to you by: channel vent-space on the pf server #if u can’t deal w the written word being slightly unpredictable #then do something about that #no one should be in fandom w this kind of opinion #how tf do u think wips will ever be complete?? #definitely not by withholding engagement bc ur scared #the author will definitely give up if they see people not interacting #and ffs stop weaponising kudos like an idiot #and then some people have the audacity to complain ab not having enough fic to read #well of fucking course #u can’t turn this into a transaction and not uphold ur side of it. at the very least. #better yet. don’t turn it into a transaction. no one needs that #anyway back to point: READ WORKS IN PROGRESS #COMMENT ON WORKS ON PROGRESS #SUBSCRIBE TO WORKS IN PROGRESS #INTERACR INTERACT ONTERACT #esp if it’s not a big name author. #fandom turning into high school is such a weird pipeline but one that needs to *go* #pen’s whining

[dizzying-faust]

I'll admit Anasui is not my favorite jojo character, but honestly, his haters are more annoying than the character himself.

#c's thoughts #'but anasui is a creep!' #meanwhile kira is right there #whose anasui but worse #and that's not getting to others like dio kars la squadra diavolo/doppio #characters that are way worse #and don't get me started on them whining about anajol #and i mean the m/f version #not the fanonized femslash version #because i know full well if anasui was a woman #the people complaining about his creepy behavior towards jolyne and romance would be all okay with it #becuase it's gay #fandom salt #jjba #jojo's bizarre adventure

[sals-soda]

you know what i find so funny about shipcourse. particularly about people who complain in the main tags about "proshippers" and their "disgusting ships"?

is that it would be completely unjustified if someone took a popular, accepted fandom ship, complained that it showed up on their timeline/dashboard/fyp/what the fuck ever, and no, it's not their fault, they can't block or filter, it's THOSE artists fault. you know the ones. the ones that tend to be [identity/label]. GOD, those fucking [identity/label]s RUIN my day.

#salting right now #i'm just so tired of seeing people whine in the main tags about ships they don't like and complaining about proshippers #LOOKING AT YOU RICK AND MORTY FANDOM. YEAH I SAID IT. #this is about you guys specifically. you suck. #sals-soda #proship #pro-ship #things that make me want to log off of tumblr part 10000000000000000 #and you know what. i should #my salt is too high i need to go eat a banana or something

[faeriekit]

Making a Masterpost of QR and Drake Manor:

pro: I will then have a masterpost of QR and DM that are easy to manage and search from.

con: I have to go find all those posts. T_T

#faer nonsense #half of fandom is whining and complaining about things that are your own fault. obviously

[juniperhillpatient]

I don’t have anything new to say right now I just want to say that school spirits is such a good show with an excellent cast a banging soundtrack a compelling mystery great world building & a fun mysterious atmosphere & I love it so much

#I’m already like halfway through this rewatch #it grabbed me right away the first time & it’s grabbing me again #no offense but I feel like the fandom is sooo barren & I can’t figure out why exactly #like it’s actually so good it should have a massive fanbase #but its all just Milo Mannheim fans & x reader fics in the tags #where are the gif sets #where are the theories & meta & discussion #where’s the fan art #sorry. that’s so hypocritical for me to whine about #I’m always saying don’t complain about what’s not there go create it yourself #but idk. it’s just sad to see such a good show without a big online fandom. idk

[bas-writes]

y'know, I'm really glad Law got away out of this alive cause seeing how people reacted to his relatively positive situation (I mean?? he got away from Blackbeard??), I don't event want to think what would be happening if his situation would be as bad as Kid's

I know there's a big part of Law fandom who likes to roll in the angst, but I have a feeling we've read a completely different chapter? every day I thank god I didn't join fandom during Dressrosa arc, as I had a great opportunity to start One Piece then; y'all would drive me insane with your negativity and rubbing salt into your own wounds

#c'mon wouldn't one piece supposed to be a story about joy? let this joy embrace you #sorry to complain but all my already carefully filtered law sources erupted with angst #and I'm sitting here with tired nanami face #first whining about him dying all onigashima long #now whining about him dying since he ran into blackbeard #this gets tiring when you're here to just enjoy a character yknow? #glad to still have luffy cause law and zoro are stained by fandom's weirdness for me #bas mumbles #opspoilers #op spoilers

[peribytes]

no offense, i know it's cringe and stupid to be mad, but it's like. absurdly funny when i make personal posts kinda crying out for attention and immediately after get an ask about some fandom shit. like for a second i think someone's gonna talk to me about it but then it's some irrelevant shit. sorry but not the time.

#i can't exactly complain bc it comes with having younger followers being a fandom-themed blog for a kids show #but it's a little absurd #psa this is a personal blog first and foremost #of an adult who whines about mental stuff all the time #sometimes i don't want to talk about fandom stuff #i'm sorry this is cringe. i just need a shower and to clean up a bit and i'll be fine

[lgbtlunaverse]

One thing i've run up against when dealing with fandom and characters making less than ideal choices is that people seem to treat a character's decision being sympathetic, the decision being understandable, the decision being reasonable, and it being objectively the best solution for the situation, as synonymous. When those are 4 very different things.

#fandom #complaining and whining about fandom #'oh x didn't make any sense' and it's a character working with incomplete information #or in a super high stress situation having to act quickly #or a deeply traumatized character making a choice that even for their situation makes no sense but they couldn't help it #and sometimes it actually is the best solution and still not sympathetic because it betrays someone close to them for the greater good! #all of these things can be true!

[jahiera]

—I have read them! I appreciated the methodical text evidence approach the analyses you’re referencing took to the EA versions of the characters. I believe all the astarion analysis is in earlier versions of the game but I came across them and appreciated the insistence on not ignoring or softening down the more difficult aspects of EA Astarion’s personality even if I didn’t always agree or took a slightly different interpretation of him (at the time. they were right about things I was not in full release! so). If you want to actually get into this though feel free to DM me, I’d be curious about your thoughts but I’m not going to deep dive into other people’s approaches to a character on main, certainly not by name.

#Just in general too. I’m a complainer in my heart about inanities but overall I’m not going to get into Big Beef here ever #I got an anon wayyy back when asking me to Comment On Some Stuff when 200 other people made thinkpieces on it #I like to whine but I’m trying reaaaaaally reaaaaaaaaally hard not to be a ‘fandom drama’ thinkpiece person. that will literally destroy my #enthusiasm for the game in a heartbeat #sometimes I see that sort of thing from ‘big’ DA blogs whose followers treat their word like it’s god and I Would Rather Die #Anyways. Sorry. That’s not directed at you obviously that’s just in general … NOT for me #just want to like. STATE FOR THE RECORD there and all that #Not that that’s what you were trying to do either with this—just elaborating the name blocking and such too. It feels rude otherwise. #but anyways as I was saying feel free to talk it out I’d be curious what you think!!

[vonaegiremblem]

Absolutely insane that of the three most recent Feh banners, the least controversial of them is the one with a new Camilla alt on it

#fire emblem #fe #feh #heroes #here's the thing; though; while camilla does now have 10 versions in feh; this new alt has a really cool design #people that whine about using camilla for sex appeal can't even complain because this alt probably shows the least skin of any of them #but having another three houses christmas banner and making it quite literally the most boring it could be + yunaka #was going to make people mad; especially considering the three houses fatigue in the fandom as a whole #and then making the new years banner focus on book 7 OCs; which are notoriously controversial; was going to also make people mad

[dizzying-faust]

At this point, I'm convinced Guilty Gear dudebros don't give a shit about the games and the lore, and just call anyone a "tourist" just to be bullying gatekeepers.

#c's thoughts #this isn't just regarding what happened to solradguy #I'm hearing about them complaining about people getting into the game because of ABA #and look #I don't like ABA #but this is just ridiculous at this point #they were already whining about bridget fans #but even when it's with another character #they still act the same #I'm convinced if this was with faust #they would act the same #fandom salt #guilty gear

[cinnamon-phrog]

How's your day going on tumblr

My day has only just started [EST timezone you see, I am so sorry if I'm incomprehensible] but it's going well, thank you!

I was a bit sad because I chose to give the benefit of the doubt to someone someone else was being mean to, but the person I gave the benefit too turned out to be exactly who I hoped they weren't.

That red x yellow shipper turned out to be a pr*shipper but just didn't say it, a friend of mine told me about their gross twitter acc, as well as the other shipper who sided with them. The only thing they're right about is yes it does indeed look like it's 2022 again :c

It makes me sad to see nothing but gatekeepers and pr*shippers in the dhmis tag so I'm just going to not bother looking anymore, you all had your chances.

It's very messy and has upset me for a bit, but I went offline to go to town and I felt much better!!

[I go off a lot more in the tags- like a LOT a lot. A sort-of vent/complaint but not an ooooooh look at me vent just a few things that've happened in the past that made me who I am now]

#i get worried that i complain too much so i try to bring the positive. because there IS always a positive #i bought a froggie eye mask for one. it matches my 5 quid frog snuggie <3 #and i got a free blocklist yayyyyyyy happy days #it's sad that most people who i think might be like me and see the trio as ageless/adults and wholesomely ship them turn out to be prroshit #but i keep looking! i know two or three who have but got chased away by the gatekeepers who mistook them for proshits #i honestly don't blame them for being so mean now. anyone could be anything and it's hard to know if it's not directly stated #and i used to assume a lot. i still do but i want to use my assuming to assume good #and i think i only caught my assuming bug from others since i came into the dhmis fandom quite young [sadly] #god 2022 was bad. at least june-august felt like it's never end. gross people everywhere and i had to be an agony aunt to 20+ year olds- #when i was only 15. actually who fucking does that. i'd gone through the worst of the toxicity #forced to see yellow as a child or i was afraid i'd be excluded. treated weird when i admitted it. a good friend turned out to be a pr*. #i felt i HAD to get involved or i'd be told i wasn't doing enough. i was a child. a baybee. i just wanted silly puppets and to be funny #now i worry i'll be 'called out' for nothing and everyone is two faced #can't try to make dhmis mutuals without checking their blog and seeing how mean they are to people like me #and it's so stupid. you guys can all be so stupid. i can't make friends because of you because i'm afraid #everytime i post art or gush about the characters that bring me a comfort you wouldn't believe i worry i'll be told off from it. #i talked about yellow once on my old sideblog and some bitch whined about how i felt for him and how it was wrong #how they told their friends and they all agreed i was a freak for it. it's not that dramatic. not everyone sees him as a baby #like what was the point of that. maybe check my blog and you'll know how i see him. #i'm glad someone came to my defence. #someone once got into a post i made for fun which explained how i saw him and oh boy they infantilised him and went off- #about how he's their baby brother. good for you /gen but can you do that somewhere else i love your art i know your famous but that's no- #excuse. i see more popular palatable artists get away with worse shit like this and it's saddening and i make sure to get away from it. #it's hard when i want to see art of my loves and only see two of them together. it's bittersweet and feels incomplete. #without them i feel incomplete. finding them was like finding three quarters of me that were lost to make me whole. #i bought badges of the trio on etsy and i lost the yellow one. i sobbed. i had to be consoled. i couldn't even do my math exams #because i got a taste of what a life would be where just one peice was missing. #any moment any of them can be taken away from me. that's selfish because they're not even mine and they're not even real. #i went off a bit. i AM happy. i am on my way to be happy. that's just something i needed to get off my chest