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absolutebl · 1 year

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BL Actor Pairs - Meta Guide

A lot of these posts are dated, because pairs have broken up and things move fast the the entertainment industry. But since were were talking TayNew and Cherry Magic recently....

Basics of Actor Pairs, Cobranding, and BL Couples

A Guide to Thai BL Actor Pairs for New Watchers (old af)

Thai BL Actor Pairs... REDUX! (late 2021)

GMMTV and Co-Branded BL Couples - pairs and marketing tactics (early 2022)

How to get over Thai BL Pair Branding (mid 2022)

GMMTV’S BL Pairs, Ranked (late 2022)

Rankings, recs, & fantasy casting

BL’s Top 10 Most Deserving Unresolved

10 BL Pairs That Should be Reunited in New Rolls!

Crazy BL Actor Pairing I'd Love to See

TOP 10 BL PAIRS + What They Should Play Next

Your Favorite Thai BL Couples = What to Watch Next?

As of end of 2022 the oldest still active pairs are...

KarnNat (origin Grey Rainbow, latest Dear Doctor) - they cobrand only when they have a show and don’t feed shippers, CURRENT MONARCHS*

BoomPeak (origin Make It Right, latest 7 Project) - they don’t actively cobrand and never feed shippers

MaxTul (origin Bad Romance, latest Manner of Death) - champions (and origin) of Thai BL IRL ships

OffGun (origin Puppy Honey, latest Not Me) - announced Cooking Crush for 2023

TayNew (origin Kiss, latest Dark Blue Kiss) - announced Cherry Magic for 2023

All these pairs started in 2016, some of them as side couples. I consider the oldest established pair to have completed a recent BL the reigning Kings, as of typing in Dec 2022 that’s KarnNat.

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chicademartinica · 10 months

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Hello, want to ask, why Only Friends is shaping up to be 'THE BL'?

The hype is real.

Gmmtv show but a bit risqué for this agency. (See 3 will be free and The warp effect)

Excellent and seasoned actors (who chose the project, no one under 25 except Neo (22) but HE IS AN OG) ,

Jojo Tichakorn is a very talented, queer, sex positive director who doesn’t give a shit about pairings. He will wreck havoc in the cobranded pairs and some will hate it. I for one WILL LOVE IT.

Great cinematographer // Great crew.

Very Queer story shot in very queer spaces. Bangkok gay nightlife. Possible exploration of queer hustler culture (small dealers, sex work, yaba pill popping, queer people in the justice system). Class differences and frustrations in Thailand.

Queer women ! Trans women !

Binge drinking will be treated very seriously (see The eighth sense)

It’s a sexy, messy and toxic story but in the hands of a very sex positive team.

There is a bet, with real money, about this show having the evil twin version of the 3 will be free threesome. (Nicknames including 3 will be messy/a catastrophe,4 will be whores/hardcore.)

Hollywood is on strike so hella potential new viewers.

So it can totally be “The Thai BL” of 2023. But funny thing this director did ONE (1) BL : Never let me go and used the format to dialogue with the uber heteronormative lakorns of his youth. Will Only Friends even be a BL ? As I said FUN !

#only firends #only friends the series #firstkhao #forcebook #neomark #jojo tichakorn #thai bl #the warp effect #3 will be free

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kinnbig · 8 months

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[doofenshmirtz voice] if I had a nickel for every time a different cobranded BL actor pairing featuring at least one member of the cast of KinnPorsche the Series and at least one person who was, at some point, in the cast of My Engineer the Series performed the song Kiss Me by Sixpence None The Richer on-stage at a fan concert, then I would have two nickels. which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.

#fjdkdjdks this is so niche i’m sorry #(mile and apo did the song at a fan concert yesterday)#(perth and talay did the same song at the my engineer fanmeet)#(mile was cast as bohn in the original cast of my engineer btw. idk why it got changed but it is a fact that blows my mind)#darcey.txt

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essentiallykpopandbl · 2 years

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My biggest problem with Enchanté is that I don't believe anyone but Akk even stands a chance. Is this all going to be for nothing?

#enchante the series #akk and theo #forcebook #my problem with cobranded pairs for bl shows #you know they will be together #not complaining too much #I am falling in love with Akk #Force is so good in this show #gmmtv #thai bl

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cheapdesignershoesblog · 2 years

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Take a Look at the Louis Vuitton x Nike Air Force 1 in Yellow

With a number of Louis Vuitton (PARIS:MC.PA -1.01%) x Air Force 1s surfacing the internet in the past months following Virgil Abloh’s posthumous Fall/Winter 2022 LV men’s runway show, we got a look at the bold yellow pair from the 8 color pack. DJ Khalid recently showcased his early coveted edition in red to add to his ever-growing collection.

Thanks to English Sole, this latest look gives a close-up of what’s in store when copping one of the luxury brand’s highly anticipated series. Dressed in full bright yellow leather uppers, the shoe features the signature LV monogram print debossed all throughout including the white lateral Swoosh. White laces sporting Virgil’s trademark quotations continue to add contrast with the tongue sporting the cobranding leather tag on the side. Further branding elements are found on the insole and heel tab. A hint of green is stitched under the Swoosh while the white midsole is marked with “AIR” over the standard AIR fixture.

Each pair is accompanied by a Louis Vuitton branded box along with a branded strap hooked up with an oversized Swoosh and “Louis Vuitton Air” tag. 2 dustbags and a postcard reading “Virgil Was Here” complete the whole package.

Further information and updates on the Louis Vuitton x Nike (NYSE:NKE -1.62%) collaboration release are yet to be announced.

#Louis Vuitton x Nike Air Force 1 #Nike Air Force 1

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frenzyapp-blog · 7 years

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Why Everyone Is Talking About the Off-White x Nike Collab

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If you’re reading this, you probably already know about the upcoming collaboration dubbed “The Ten” between Nike and Virgil Abloh’s Off-White brand as celebrities such as Travis Scott, A$AP Rocky, Drake, Odell Beckham Jr. and more have been seen rocking early (and personalized) pairs of the collaboration.

Image via Champagnepapi on Instagram

For the ill-informed, Off-White is Virgil Abloh’s luxury high-end fashion label that is currently wildly popular in the streetwear community. Nike has given the Off-White designer ten of the company’s most popular silhouettes to redesign in his own vision. Abloh’s reimagining on Nike’s iconic models is possibly the most attention-grabbing suite of footwear in recent years and is set to bring overwhelming levels of hype to sneakerheads and streetwear enthusiasts on the forefront of fashion culture.

Virgil Abloh, now 36, got his big start as the art director for Jay-Z and Kanye West’s collaborative album Watch the Throne. After a successful stunt as Kanye’s own creative director and creating Pyrex Vision, a streetwear label that he shut down a year after, he launched Off-White in 2014. The Milan-based fashion label was founded as a luxury brand, offering high-end men’s and women’s pieces.

Today, Off-White is a household name in fashion; Virgil Abloh’s projects seem to just keep getting bigger and his influence more diverse. Abloh’s iconic diagonal stripes are recognized everywhere and can be seen on a plethora of celebrities. Not only has the brand opened its 12th retail store in the heart of Soho, New York, you can also see Virgil Abloh’s latest work in his album art design for rapper Lil Uzi Vert’s latest album.

Nike’s upcoming collaboration with Virgil Abloh is the company’s most important yet as it reflects Nike’s capacity to create a highly sought after collection with the cobranding of Off-White, one of fashion’s most influential brands. Coupled with an expert use of influential marketing, Nike and Abloh have managed to generate a staggering amount of excitement around this collaboration.

Because the Swoosh has traditionally relied on their NBA all-star endorsements for footwear sales, this collaboration represents a great opportunity for Nike to connect with a fashion label at the forefront of high fashion and streetwear culture. Virgil’s Off-White helps diversify Nike’s image from being heavily focused on sports and is strong push for the brand to stay on top of the industry as heavy hitters like Adidas and PUMA are surging with stiff competition.

Much to the jealousy of sneakerheads, fashion enthusiasts, and hypebeasts everywhere, Virgil has been photographed personally seeding high-profile celebrities with early pairs of his redesigned sneakers, most notably the Air Jordan 1. Virgil’s deconstruction of the iconic “Chicago” colourway of this sneaker has been grabbing headlines around pop culture blogs and Instagram pages for the past few months, making it by far the standout piece of the entire collection.

Needless to say, the lucky few to own a pair of these will probably be flexing on you for the rest of the year.

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outandaboutnycmag · 6 years

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12/7/17 O&A NYC WITH WaleStylez FASHION: PornHub And Moose Knuckles Does A collaboration

By Adewale Adekanbi Jr The specially designed bomber sports Pornhub’s signature color palette, complemented by Moose Knuckles’s logo in orange. A jet-black shell fabric is paired with a luxurious red fox fur trim and a cobranded patch.V File’s and Moose Knuckles’s own webstore if you’re trying to cop. The jackets go on sale December 7,2017 at 10 a.m. (more…)

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#Adewale Adekanbi Jr.#Fashion #Moose Knuckles #Out and About NYC Magazine #Pornhub #V File #WaleStylez

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fashionshoesworlds · 7 years

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This Renowned West Coast Boutique Has a Must-Have Vans Collab With Three Shoes Coming Soon

West Coast retail standout Proper has a collab on the way sure to satisfy fans of Vans. Arriving Saturday at Proper in Long Beach, Calif., as well as via properlbc.com, is its Vault by Vans Tatanka Collection, featuring the retailer’s take on three of the brand’s iconic styles. The three-shoe drop boasts luxury takes on the Sk8-Hi LX, the Old Skool LX and the Slip-On LX. All of the sneakers in the line feature uppers executed with Horween American Buffalo Leather, which Proper stated was picked because of it’s natural grain that looks better as the shoes are worn. Proper also stated the standout Horween material was chosen because as the shoes wear, no two pairs — or shoes in the same pair — will look the same. Proper x Vault by Vans Sk8-Hi LX The Sk8-Hi LX in the collection will come in a provincial blue and marshmallow colorway and retail for $160. The shoe is built with pigskin UltraCrush HD insoles, perforated jazz stripes on the upper and laser-etched footbed linings. Proper’s Old Skool LX, which retails for $140, is executed in a old gold and marshmallow color palette. The shoe boasts perforated jazz stripes, stamped cobranded tongue labels and a fully siped

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xbreed · 7 years

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AIR SHAKE NDESTRUKT 🏀 After some early previews of the upcoming Pigalle x NikeLab Air Shake NDESTRUKT collaboration in two colorways earlier this month, today we get an official look at both in detail. The French fashion/streetwear/sportswear label is no stranger to getting the honors of reworking classic and contemporary basketball models, and now Pigalle turns their attention on two very unique new editions of the already singular look of the classic Dennis Rodman model. The Air Shake is reconstructed with a tweed-like upper layered with premium nubuck in two distinct colorways of blue and light pink—the latter apparently nicknamed “Carmen Electra” by Pigalle’s founder Stéphane Ashpool. Other modifications are present on the shoe, including metal “AIR” buttons, elastic panels replacing the usual shoe laces, and Pigalle branding added to the medial ankle strap and and heel. Each pair will also come in special packaging that includes a co-branded dust bag. Both colorways of the Pigalle x NikeLab Air Shake NDESTRUKT have hit retail ($200 each) on June 19th from select NikeLab retailers. ✏️ Zack Schlemmer via @sneakernews @pigalleparis @nikelab #mxtbreed #pigalle #nikelab #airshake #ndestrukt #mxtstyle #collaboraton #france #lifestyle #pigalleparis #streetstyle #fashion #streetwear #fashionaddict #classic #contemporary #carmenelectra #cobranded #style #urban #original #nike #blogger #visualarchitects #innovation #inspiration #creative #visualsgang #sneakerhead #visionaries

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absolutebl · 2 years

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Soooo, I need some help, in the form of a reality check. Can you do a little analysis of ZeeNunew irl (if you even pay attention to that). My problem is this: I ship them! Not psychotically, but they are persistently in my brain (along with MaxNat, but I think thats just because Nat is such a physically perfect twink i just really wish he had a boyfriend. That and their upper thigh caresses during cutie pie reaction videos). The issue is that I am very...trusting?...easy to convince? So when I see videos or posts like "X and X boyfriends" or "Couple X being cute together" (which I generally don't watch, but some slip through) I'm like "oh that seems real" until someone else comes in w/the logic (ex you've mentioned Tul and Apo being confident w/a good background so they just fuck w/shippers and it made me realize i was just one of those dumb people who didn't get it at first.)

Part of the problem was I started watching BL pretty recently w/no background info on the genre,

and I'm not much of a behind-the-scenes watcher so it took a while for me to understand that the studios are promoting the ships, and the actors are ACTING, so therefore reasonable adults don't take the ship or irl flirting seriously. I had just assumed when they're not in the show they're being themselves, so, I dunno, I guess I just thought there were a lot of gay actors in Thailand or something.

I'm very embarrassed now, but I just didn't know. I don't follow celebrities but I feel like they don't do this in America so I just thought "it must be real!" Rather than "they're exploiting those poor babies"

I just get such shysweetloving vibes from them. I know Zee is great at adoring his partners, and Nunew responds so sweetly I just squee all over them, but I want to be a responsible fan and not do that. Help me out, give me external validation I'm just being stupid.

How to get over Thai BL Pair Branding

Ah, they got ya, did they?

You shouldn't be embarrassed. They are actors, it's their job to persuade you to believe in an alt-reality, and this is some very insidious marketing tactics. Also it's pretty unique to Thailand. Also if you come from watching western cinema, we are used to Hollywood actors falling in love with each other and ending up in disastrous marriages from being on set together. It seems normal.

There are a few out gay actors in Thailand, but as yet there hasn't been any actual relationships to come from a BL. And if I were them and got into one, I would stay FIRMLY in the closet.

It's a little like buying that coffee drink because it looked good on IG and then being like, “oh, THIS is disgusting, I feel like an idiot.” Only with more emotional manipulation and not spending $8 on liquid sugar.

Not that I blame the actors! They are being told to do this, some of them are just better at it than others.

Frankly Max & Nat are better at cobranding because they have been together for so long. Sometimes you can see Zee & Nunew drop the act at the end of interviews when they are really tired.

I actually really don't like this aspect of BL, so I don't often watch things designed to encourage pair shipping (variety shows, bts, fanmeets).

I have the cure, ready?

Watch TharnType.

Then go on an internet deep dive about what happened to MewGulf.

Ta da!

You'll be cured.

I have a few things written about this as a marketing tactic here:

Co-Branded BL Couples & Thai Studios - pairs and marketing tactics (written before ZeeNunew and intentionally avoiding MewGulf, PerthSaint, ZeeSaint and all the other catastrophes).

It's like learning how to read a label on a soap bottle or an ingredients list on food packaging, your eye will eventually get trained to see what's actually happening, but it takes a while.

I talk some more about pair branding, parasocial relationships, and why I really dislike IRL shipping here.

Here’s the bit where I got mad about skinship fantasies around misunderstandings of other cultures, especially Thailand.

Honestly there are many reasons I prefer to talk about characters, and narrative structures, and not actors.

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#thai bl #cobranding #cobranded pairs #bl chemistry #gmmtv #zeenunew #zeesaint #mewgulf #perthsaint #tharnType #thai couples #co-branding #thai pairs #thai actors

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lascalia · 7 years

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Peuterey Teams With Vespa for Capsule Collection

Italian outwear specialist Peuterey has teamed with Vespa for a capsule collection that will be launched on Tuesday, concurrently with Milan Design Week. Previewed on Monday, the cobranded collection includes a field jacket, a helmet and a pair of goggles.

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absolutebl · 1 year

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I don't know who to share my excitement with but Idol Romance just posted a making of Roommates of Poongduck 304 kissing scene om youtube and I am losing my goddamn mind. Have you seen it???

THERE WAS A LIP BITE AND A WHOLE GIGGLE BUT THEY DIDN'T AIR IT??? The making was sooooo much better than the one they showed.

Out of all the Korean BLs I have watched, I have never felt I was invading someone's privacy during a kissing scene until this show. It seemed like the actors truly were immersed in their acting. You can see how much joy they showed on screen.

I hope this becomes the start of a more satisfying kissing scene in K-BL because so many times, they just leave me feeling meh. Very few could make me truly feel the love that they are trying to potray. I am truly loving the chemistry of jiwoong and seobin. They really nailed it

I wish they had kept the fun bits in too. Not very Korean of them if they did, though.

Yeah this pair is good, comfortable with each other in a way we don't usually get from Korea (except maybe Strongberry). Have you seen their Kissable Lips? Sad ending but pretty high heat.

Oooo, so, linky!

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#kissable lips #Roommates of Poongduck 304 #kroean bl #kbl #Kim Ji Woong #Yoon Seo Bin #bl pair #cobranded couple

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absolutebl · 2 years

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Until We Meet Again

This is going to be a watch along starting in Oct 2022, right before Between Us (the spin off) airs. But since I have never done a proper analysis or review of UWMA, I'll start with that.

Until We Meet Again is a 2019 Thai BL from Studio Wabi Sabi directed by New Siwaj.

It is an adaptation of the y-novel The Red Thread by LazySheep. I watched shortly after it aired in late 2019. You can currently (still) watch it on YouTube. Trigger warning.

Quick Pitch

UWMA is, without question, a work of narrative genius with a powerful and cohesive romantic backbone and stellar performances. It is (to date) the only Thai BL (of c.170 watched) that I’ve rated a 10/10 predominantly on the basis of story structure. That said, it is also very well cast (and it’s a BIG cast), with solid production values, and enduring pair branding as well as being the best Thai BL from a storytelling perspective. It is one of my favorite BLs of all time and I have probably rewatched at least some parts of it over 20x.

Narrative Frameworks

UWMA is long for a Thai BL at 17 ep of c.45 min of fresh content which means it comes in at around 13 hours total. It’s tropes include fated mates (or soulmates), past love/tragedy, sins of the fathers, and family drama. It has a strong seme/uke structure and multiple couples (both hallmarks of Thai BL). Leads are grumpy/sunshine pairings, with a side dish of sunshine/tsundere. It’s medium heat but still rather sweet, because while all couples are followed into the bedroom, there’s a very strong emotional chemistry component that renders the physical chemistry somewhat background to the pure love connection driving the relationships. As a series, it is paced well, but is perhaps not the best one to binge watch. To me it feels like a show that needs room to breathe.

The production values are high but workmanlike. There are some flaws in sound, wardrobe, makeup, and repeated establishing shots. But the crew and cast were clearly bigger and better funded than any Thai BL production since. I would hazard a guess that this was one of Thailands most expensive BLs (with the possible exception of KinnPorsche).

Thai Language Corner

From a Thai linguistics perspective it’s pretty standard for a college set BL. I do use both DeamPharm and WinTeam as examples when talking about basic and more complicated linguistic couple dynamics (more here). OhmFluke, however, are a bit more interesting IRL.

New uses staggered couple framing, central aperture faming, peekaboo framing, and lighting to contrast the secretive and doomed nature of the past relationship against the attempted recovery and reformation of the modern day. He paid very little attention to manga style or BL’s yaoi roots, possibly because his style as a director is evidently not at all influenced by it.

This show stars Fluke Natouch as Pharm [reincarnated In] and Ohm Thitiwat as Dean [reincarnated Korn] AKA OhmFluke. They are a branded pair who since UWMA have done Close Friend 1 & 2, and Oh My Sunshine Night and have more BLs scheduled for 2023.

It also stars Earth Katsamonnat (AKA Smol Earth or CooHeart) as Intouch or In [Pharm’s past self] and Kao Noppakao as Korn [Dean's past self]. Earth has gone on to co-brand as SantaEarth starring in 7 Project and My Only 12%. He had acted in several BL shows prior to UWMA, although Fluke would have been the most experienced lead actor on that set. Kao would go on to star in Lovely Writer. Both Fluke and Earth are openly gay and were out at time of filming and promotion.

The support couple (or side dish) featured Prem Warut as Team [Pharm's best friend] and Boun Noppanut as Win [Dean's best friend]. BounPrem are strongly cobranded and have since co-lead 7 Project, Even Sun, Long Kong, and guest-coupled in Cutie Pie and You Never Eat Alone. They will anchor Between Us the spin off of UWMA (an adaptation of Hemp Rope) reprising their roles of Win and Team. In UWMA their couple has relatively little screen time but they absolutely stole fan attention and adoration.

UWMA also featured Samantha Coates (AKA Sammy) as Manow [Pharm's best friend] and Pineare Pannin as Del [Dean's sister]. Sammy is a staple of many BLs, being an active member of Wabi Sabi’s stable. Del is best known for playing Yuri in 2014′s Love Sick, Thailand’s first big hit BL. These two starred together in Wabi Sabi’s only GL (part of 7 Project.) (Don’t bother, it’s still all about the boy.)

I am telling you all this up front because I will make mistakes and refer to everyone by their character or actor name all the time. Sorry. Also I want you to know how biased I am.

I LOVE this show.

And now....

the watch along.

Episode 1 - Oh, I Forgot...

It has probably been about a year since I did a rewatch of UWMA. And I think I’ve only ever watched the first installment of the first episode one time through. I didn’t forget how dark it was, but I am reminded why I always say ‘original trigger warning” on UWMA.

I can see why I like to the show from the start, because it does open on a crying kiss. I am an absolute sucker for a crying kiss. This time around, I noticed the intrusiveness of the music a lot more, especially in KornIn’s stuff.

Earth turns in a killer opening performance (in the great cry off between him and Fluke that is this show). In that moment before he picks up the gun, Earth almost does look like Fluke will later on. It’s a really interesting bit of facial performance and acting.

I got to say, barring some of the darker Japanese BL, this is probably the most powerful opening sequence we’ve gotten in the genre. Honestly, if this show we’re being released right now I don’t think it would’ve had this opening. They would’ve kept the trigger, but it would’ve appeared more chronologically towards the end.

Is this a pleasant way to start a BL? No.

Is it powerful? Yep.

Manaow and Del are still 2 of my favorites. We were robbed with their GL.

Oh my God Prem looks like such a baby.

I like that there are these extra bits with extra characters in UWMA, like in the cooking club. We don’t get a vast ensemble casts like this anymore. Not even from Thailand, not with this attention to detail. I kind of miss it. The little extra bits set in different parts of the university, they remind me a bit of origin yaoi.

Honestly Fluke is one of the best blushing maidens to ever blush. It’s still not my favorite archetype but he does do it beautifully. The part where Team jokingly says he’ll protect his two friends, is pretty telling actually. Since he’s going to have to step up to the plate later and try against and older boy. I do adore this friendship group. In the end, perhaps Pete & Kao’s friends (Kiss series) beat them out slightly. But not by very much.

And the set up for the whole show:

I will keep searching until I find you.

30 years later...

(You know, when I was first watching this show I always called it Until You Again, in my head.)

I wonder how hard it was for Fluke to cry on command like that, all the time. Here watch this AMAZING FMV of Fluke and Gun (Theory of Love) having a cry off.

WinTeam and the towel in the locker room is still one of the best early couple moments ever.

The end of the first episode and we haven’t even had a proper meet cute. And yet the pacing feels. I think because the show opens so top-heavy with the deadly drama at the beginning of the episode.

Honestly, I forgot how sort elegant and well executed to show was. I’ve grown to no longer expect that from New. It just goes to show that he’s one of those directors that really excels and thrives when he has a very strong script.

Episode 2 - The High Beans!

I love this meet cute. LOVE IT. Can’t wait to watch it again. But first the library (not quite) assignation.

One of the best prevailing themes of UWMA is this idea that making food, and specifically Thai desserts, is meditative and important for the cook. But also that preparing food is about the love and affection that you sprinkle feelings into the dish like seasoning, so that people can taste it when they eat.

Note the only other guy in the cooking club? That’s Best Vittawin from Check Out and a bunch of other higher heat BL. Also some of you who are paying attention to the language might notice that Luk Choup is mentioned quite a bit. Yes that is the same name as the character in La Cuisine. It’s also the desert that In makes with his Maa, and that Pharm makes into special star shapes for Dean in Ep 3.

Honestly KaoEarth never much resonated with me, but on this rewatch I am liking them so much better than I ever have before. It that @heretherebedork ‘ss influence? Possibly. I think it’s also because of both My Only 12% (which is making me like Earth more as an actor) and Lovely Writer (which made me like Kao more).

One of my favorite character development threads in the show is Dean’s relationship with his siblings. I love how austere and cold he is at the beginning of the show. But how, after being with Parm for a while, he mellows around Don & Del. It is Pharm who brings a family to Dean in the end.

The note passing in the secret smiles and the spitting of the orange juice remains very cute.

I am quietly obsessed, well not quietly (because I’ve never quiet), about Dean with his hand in his pocket.

Honestly, the only time Dean takes his hand out of his pocket is to touch Pharm.

And there it is, FINALLY, the mung bean meat cute!

Best ever.

This is such a GREAT romance.

Pharm starts to cry and Dean immediately touches his face. There is a reason I call Dean the most handsy seme in BL. He is pretty much never not touching Pharm from this moment on. It’s glorious (and very unlike KBL and JBL).

And you can see him look at his own hand and surprise, because he is clearly not a touchy-feely person. But being then he just accepts this about himself and will do everything he can to be close to Pharm from here on out.

I love how New does this dirty screen peekaboo shot on DeanPharm right before he cuts back and forth to KornIn, it’s like framing foreshadow since normally this style of short is used with KornIn so highlight the secrecy of their relationship.

Episode 3 - Wabi Sabi Shows Off The Stable

I just realized one of In’s friends (played by Title Tanatorn) is also in Remember Me and My Only 12% airing right now. Boy needs a series. He v cute. Also “HI DR SING!” (Sorry, due to Triage, Tonnam will always be Dr Sing. Although he is also a side character in LITA right now. Honestly my brain is becoming an MDL for Thai actors in BLs. Of course, Perth is great in this role, a foreshadow for all the crying he’ll do in LBC2. I am sorry we never got to meet his character older. It would’ve been nice for him to have gotten closure with the Pharm as reincarnated In. I wonder if his character got to meat Pharm did in the book?

And Win’s Patented move the casual arm throw. Honestly, Win gets all of the best lines in this show. No wonder we all like him so much. I hope he stays a witty and snarky in Between Us.

I have to say, Dean’s soft voice is one of the best in the biz, thank you Ohm. Almost as good as Solo’s (Oxygen).

And so Dean learns about Pharm’s panic attacks and the after effects that his past self’s actions have wrought on the person he loved the most. And he reacts in the most seme way possible. Honestly he is such a poster child seme in this series.

Also he flirts.

In a VERY Dean fashion.

Dean: I’m still single.

Pharm: I am single too.

Dean: Not for long.

This is the show where I first learned that in Thailand do you say “bur” when you want someone’s digits. This makes me unreasonably happy.

Meanwhile back in the past selves, In is so brave. The worst consequence of the tragedy that lead to their reincarnation is that his future self is so timid and afraid because of what was done to In in the past. It’s really the only reason I forgive Pharm’s blushing maiden actions. I think of that fact of his personality as somewhat dictated by the past, much like his panic attacks.

The bit where Pharm is serving Dean breakfast in his condo for the first time and he puts out a carafe of water and there are little flowers floating in it? What are those flowers?

Meanwhile, he way Dean fixes Pharm’s hair and tie and then Phram misspeaks “gin” gets me every time. Although I gotta say if a boy cried like that every time he met me, I’d probably have backed off my now.

Episode 4 - Bisexual Rep & Stereotyping. Are we happy or sad?

Does one get pleased to see bisexual rep or annoyed by the stereotyping? At the time, because it was so rare in BL (still is, actually), I was pleased. But now with Mame busting in on the bi/pan=predatory slut trope regularly I’m just annoyed.

P’Alex (Mean in his best role, fight me Tin stans) as a sleazy bi actor won over by food. Honestly? Been there done that, been that done there, and fucked that. Oo, I’m three for three!

OK so in LITA when Payu says/implies that he wants Rain to talk like a good boy, really he wants him to talk the way Pharm does to Dean (all the time). Pharm is so bloody polite.

So cute that Dean won’t allow Pharm to be jealous for one second. Dean has no interest in playing any of the normal BL games. These two are fated, gay, and into each other and he has no interest in pretending otherwise. Oh he will tease his uke like a proper seme, but only because Pharm lacks faith in Dean’s constancy.

The scene with Pharm and the girls carving the dumplings is one of my favorites. It’s so cute the way Manaow teases Pharm with Del’s sibling connection. Also it’s really sweet the way that Pharm instantly understands the complexities of Dean’s familial relationships, and immediately sets out to heal them.

Win and Dean racing.

Look, competition is how 2 semes show their love for each other.

And then the most famous scene in a BL that’s full of famous scenes.

Does anyone one in BL execute the feeding trope better? I think not. And if you can name one, leave a comment and make a case for it.

In addition to having one of the best soft commanding voices in Thai BL, Ohm has got to have one of the best side eyes as well.

I love that Del is already protective of her brother’s boyfriend.

Happy clap hands we get the first date and the penguin walk next!

Episode 5 - The Ping-guine Walk!

I would like to stress from this moment on that we, the collective BLers, do not talk about Dean’s driving in this show. Or we did at the time, but that time has passed. Just ignore, okay? Cause it cray cray.

Del cooking for her brothers is so cute. Also the way she gently teases Dean about Pharm. Love her!

And now the first date.

The bus trip so Make it Right. Just FYI Thailand and Korea LOVE a bus trip in romance (BL or otherwise). They tend to do it the most. Japan has done it a few times too. But the others not so much.

Also sharing earbuds = MIR again.

I do love P’Sorn.

Yes, that’s Na from Kinnporseche but we knew him when (also forthcoming Wish Me Luck).

I love the aquarium visit.

Pharm doing the penguin walk.

Dean’s expression when Pharm does a penguin walk.

Dean secretly taking photographs of his cutie. It’s just wonderful. Pharm is so bouncy and cute and Dean is so soft and indulgent. And it’s one of the few times where we get to see Pharm be a little bit more like In. Dean spends the whole time looking at Pharm rather than the fish. He’s so doting.

It’s so good.

The story about the sea ogress and what to do with a traitorous lover. Pharm’s response is actually typical uke, as possessive as seme are, it is usually the uke in yaoi & BL who ends up being the most fierce about ownership in a relationship. Because the uke has, in many ways, sacrificed part of their identity to the seme (in In’s case, all of it), their’s is the more powerful claim by right of sacrifice. It’s very old gods, ancient instincts.

Meanwhile there’s Dean always making his intentions crystal clear.

That hand hold.

But also...

No Dean, he doesn’t trust you, and for a very good reason.

And finally we have everybody’s least favorite character in UWMA: Ja’s wig.

There’s a wild speculation around this wig.

Perhaps he had just finished Ror Dor and had no hair? Or had just come back from serving in the military? No matter wha,t it’s totally unacceptable.

Thailand is never allowed to use wigs. It’s one of the sacred rules of BL. It’s a bummer because Sorn & Sin are fab minor characters. (They will rep for the “elder gay advice giver” archetype. One of my favorites.)

Episode 6 - The Read Thread Kiss

This rewatch I really feel a lot more for Korn than I ever did before. He really did try to warn In that it wasn’t a good idea for them to date, like he knew he wasn’t gonna be brave enough, even for love. But In is so relentless and so cute, who could resist?

Everyone eating lunch together and teasing each other and Del finally relaxing around Dean is one of my favorite little vignettes. Also, everybody laughing at Dean rgr “forgetting to swallow.” And my boys holding hands under the table. It’s glorious.

I also like how we get to see Dean reacting to the past negatively too, finally. And his siblings are so worried about him. This crack in his stoic armor.

I do love Pharm standing up to Alex before the play. And the fact that Del records it and sends it to Dean is just so good. Especially knowing what happens next.

The fated mates of the red thread.

Dean’s faculty cohorts are all such frat boy type dicks. I kinda love their sleazy mame-ish little ways.

Honestly there’s nothing carnal when these two kiss but it’s so beautifully romantic and soft.

I love love love the way Dean checks in on Pharm and tidies him up, afterwards. It’s so sweetly caring and careful.

And then the big realization about reincarnation over shabu shabu.

I gotta say, as a chronic rewatcher, this show stands up to a rewatch better than pretty much any other Thai BL I could name. Probably because it has so many character vignettes, and little moments of side affection between friends as well as lovers. There’s a lot of meat and sweetness to revisit.

Episode 7 - Possibly my Favorite Episode

The tiny snippet where Dean sees Pharm as In is actually one of the saddest bits of this whole show. It’s rough watching DeanPram figure everything out.

I do love the scene where Pharm meets Dean’s younger brother. Don tricks Dean into coming over, and everybody teases them.

I feel like every episode I say “this is one of my favorite scenes.” Which just goes to show why this is my favorite Thai BL ever.

Meanwhile, sitting on the couch crying, DeanPharm finally figure out that they promised to find each other and that they are both experiencing the same feelings of reincarnation. This particular exchange of gifts is so significant actually talk about it as an example in my blog post on the trope. Gift exchange is not a trope I love but it has a lot of meaning in this particular instance.

Public claiming of a relationship is one of my more favorite tropes on the other hand, which means the next scene where Dean has to run Alex off is just too good. When I talk about Thailand in the context of age dynamics as part of culture, I use the example of how hard it is for Team to protect Pharm under these circumstances - where he is fighting against Alex who is not only older but from a different department. It’s such an important insight into Team’s character, that he’s willing to stand against Alex even though the whole social structure is against him. Dean sweeping in and running Alex off is just so powerful as a result. Also I really love the way Dean is always touching Pharm and tidying/playing with his hair and clothes - it’s so proprietary and boyfriend. It also shows that Dean is never not thinking about him, his eyes are always on Pharm whenever they are together.

And this ep ends with WinTeam and the forehead kiss in the convenience store. Finally there’s some movement on their romance. This really is one of my favorite episodes.

Other Stuff Related to this Show

Why Until We Meet Again is special among Thai BLs

Thai Desserts in Until We Meet Again

BL With the Highest Chance of Breaking Into The West - Until We Meet Again (I wrote this before KinnPorsche)

Sex negativity as part of the seme/uke dynamic

Thai Food You Should Eat Because of BL

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So I will try to updated this original doc as much as possible, but sometimes Tumblr just stops me from editing, in which case I have to repost and add. So I’ll be putting a rough date here, please don’t get mad if something is out of date and I can no longer fix it. October 2022.

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absolutebl · 1 year

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I’m curious (since I’m rewatching Semantic Error), do you think Jaechan and Seoham will do more BL together once Seoham returns from military service?

While I personally would love it I’m not sure how much the KBL industry is interested in repeat pairs, especially since their only somewhat cobranded pair seems to have separated (with Jiwoong focusing on being an idol now).

It's not unprecedented, Kissable Lips boys did it until Boys Planet killed that idea.

But I think it is unlikely.

Jaechan's group is doing decently well these days, so unless they disband or otherwise collapse, I think it unlikely.

If Seoham wants to go into acting when he gets back I think the door is wide open for him to transition into non-BL roles, because of his looks and height.

But honestly, at the end of their tour before he went into the military he just seemed... so tired. I wonder if he isn't the type to give up on celebrity life.

#asked and answered #semantic error

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absolutebl · 2 years

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You have a lot of great meta posts, are they catalogued anywhere? Or any specific tags I should look at? I've been looking through your "history of BL" and "BL tropes" so far. Fantastic work BTW

Meta Post of My BL Master Posts!

Thank you so much! I keep a spreadsheet offline (because I have a spreadsheet for everything, I LOVE THEM with a pure untainted devotion), but that's not super helpful for you, now is it? A lot of my master posts have links to other posts in them or at the bottom so I hope you’ll forgive me for just directing you mostly at those? That way, if you’re intersted, the rabbit hole awaits. Ready? Here we go!