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plague-of-insomnia · 1 year
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Ch 197 : Send in the Clones
This is a short chapter. Finny and Snake are led from the outside by Susan, one of the young staff members, who teases/flirts with Snake about his relationship with Doll before introducing them to the Collie class. They made bath salts the day before and today are making pound cake with orange marmalade, instructed by an older woman staff member.
While we’re here, we meet a few more of the children at the orphanage, and more parallels begin to emerge.
We’ve already met Theo, the “Ciel” clone, and Jenny, one of the kids from the outdoorsy Corgi class in chapter 196, so now we get to meet three more, who parallel the other servants: Sebastian, Mey Rin, and Bard.
Oliver (オリバー), Mey Rin’s Doppleganger, Collie Class
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It’s possible Oliver is a boy, but it isn’t explained. (Oliver does use 僕, boku, the same first-person pronoun Our Ciel does, and a common one for young boys.) Oliver is also very shy and tends to stutter when they speak, like Mey. Oliver has a strong aptitude for domestic tasks like embroidery, and seems very close/clingy with Daniel, the Bard clone, and always seems to be apologizing.
Artie (アーティ), Sebastian’s Doppleganger, Mastiff Class
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Artie is the oldest in his class and impresses Finny and Snake with elegant manners and speech, just like a high-ranking servant like a butler. He keeps some of the other kids in line (like the Bard clone Daniel), and also seems to know more than he initially lets on about “fledgling day” (the day that the kids leave the orphanage, supposedly). He also uses the same pronoun as Sebastian, 私, Watashi.
Daniel (ダニエル), Bard’s Doppleganger, Collie Class
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Daniel is definitely a boy (or he sees himself as one, anyway), as he complains about having to dress like a girl and do “woman’s work,” in much the same way that Bard complained to Seb when he first joined the servants. And like then, he’s given a stern talking to about cooking and other domestic tasks not being the sole domain of women. (He even uses the same pronoun, オレ/俺, ore, as Bard.)
I can’t say yet what the significance of these parallels are yet, but they’re definitely one of the most important aspects of this chapter. The other one has to do with a term that’s repeated over and over this arc—
「巣立ちの日」, literally “leaving the nest day,” or what I’m calling “Fledgling Day.”
It’s the day that the eldest in each class “ages out” of the orphanage and presumably goes on to the world to work as a servant in their area of expertise, and is a day of celebration. When Artie first talks about it in this chapter, it’s while lecturing Daniel about needing to be prepared with skills when he leaves the orphanage one day.
However, only a few pages later, Susan, one of the staff, announces that Jenny, the girl we met last chapter who was afraid of horses, is having her “Fledgling Day.”
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This is sudden and surprising news that almost everyone seems excited about—except for Artie and Oliver. The latter is so shocked that they forget to tend the marmalade they’re making and it begins to boil and burn—and I wonder if that juxtaposition is intentionally ominous as to why they’re so concerned about this news.
On the last page of the chapter, Artie murmurs about how this can’t be, it’s too sudden, genuinely horrified. Does he know that “failures” are disposed of? It’s giving me even stronger Promised Neverland vibes now…
Another interesting element is that Snake seems oblivious to their different reaction, but not Finny. Could it be because of his own experience as a test subject that he can recognize what it means to have failures “disposed of”?
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I wonder if Oliver and Artie may become allies to Finny and Snake, and if we may be horrorfied (ala the bone prosthesis in the circus arc) once we learn more about what Undertaker is doing with all these kids…
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As always please be respectful of the work I’ve put into my translations and don’t use my translations or screenshots without credit.
I’m also human and I make mistakes, so apologies in advance if there are any.
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everyrocklee · 6 months
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sunflowercider · 7 months
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Countless people of Kandara were gathered and looking at him. Some with a content gaze. Some clapping. Each and everyone was expressing their gratitude and favor in their own way. "..." I just did what I had to do to achieve my goal, which was to start the talks and prevent war with the sultan kingdom, Lloyd thought to himself. He started this project to ensure a comfortable life for himself and no one else. So, he was unsure if he deserved this kind of treatment. It's strange, this feeling. Lloyd was shy. At the same time, he was ashamed and apologetic. He particularly felt that way toward Termes and the rest of the rebels. "You know... You should have been the ones to be applauded and praised by the people. Not me."
Lloyd...
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petri808 · 2 years
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How the hell Naoya?? Lol the face of shame and jealousy
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akutagawa-daily · 1 year
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Akutagawa daily 197/★
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chifuya · 1 year
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YES REO LET'S GO BABY!!
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coffeewithmytea · 1 year
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My current reaction to the chapter. Am I the only one who felt a bit uncomfortable with the whole force-young-boys-to-dress-in-short-skirts-and-look-like-nuns-thing?
Like, firstly, the whole speech by Artie was WAYYY anachronistic, so I think that should've been toned down a bit (we're still in 1889, right?).
And secondly - yes, fair, I'm fine with this orphanage teaching boys how to cook, sew, etc., all VERY important skills - but can we just let these boys dress how they want (which I highly doubt is frilly miniskirts and nun headdresses)?
Like, there was a weird loli quality / hazing kind of feel to the whole scene that just...didn't need to be there and totally distracted from the important punch line at the end.
I dunno...it just...annoyed me.
Also, I'm ready to move to the hotel with Sebastian & Ciel, as these side stories are getting quite draggy...
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idyllicbby · 2 years
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different sides of the same coin
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kochab-comic · 7 months
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[Chapter 0] [Chapter 1] [Chapter 2] [Chapter 3] [Chapter 4] [Chapter 5] [Ch 6] [Site]
Page 197!
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nose-coffee · 9 months
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Gideon the Ninth Eye Colour/Descriptor Guide (Updated)
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(Key: CH stands for Chapter; pg. stands for page; EP stands for Epilogue)
(Harrow the Ninth Guide) (Nona the Ninth Guide)
For more immediate, in-depth reference, the quotes themselves have been transcribed below the cut.
All quoted page numbers are per the paperback copy of the book. Quotes are (mostly) in order of frequency, but some characters are grouped together because I don't want to separate them.
Harrow (24 Entries):
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Cytherea (18 Entries):
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Ianthe (17 Entries):
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(+ BABS) “Because they were in closest proximity, her first gaze after the fight fell on the overgroomed cavalier of the Third, Naberius: his eyes were taut, and his smile was unnerved. His eyes were blue, but this close she could see that they were stained through in places with a light, insipid brown that made Gideon think of oily water.” - Chapter 11, pg. 116 (paperback)
Palamedes (11 Entries):
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Jeannemary & Isaac (8 Entries):
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Corona (6 Entries):
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Gideon (6 Entries):
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Camilla (4 Entries):
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Colum (4 Entries):
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Teacher (4 Entries):
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God/John (3 Entries)
“He approached her, and she saw that his sclera were black as space. The irises were dark and leadenly iridescent—a deep rainbow oil slick, ringed with white. The pupils were as glossy black as the sclera.” - Epilogue, pg. 440
“Harrowhark picked herself up off the floor and looked her Emperor dead in his dark and shining eyes.” - Epilogue, pg. 441
“He had a ridiculously ordinary face: long jaw, high forehead, hair a dull and leaden brown. But those eyes.” - Epilogue, pg. 443
Protesliaus (2 Entries):
“Protesilaus the Seventh stared at her with the empty eyes of someone who would watch with equal heavy disinterest if part of the wall were kicked out and she were punted down into the sea, but his adept was looking at her—wistfully.” - Chapter 10, pg. 108
“She had been gravely meeting Protesilaus’s murky stare, as though trying to find something out, and now she settled the head on her lap.” - Chapter 30, pg. 338
Characters With Only 1 Entry Each:
(CRUX) “Crux stared back at her with the hate of an exploding star: the empty hate of pressure pulled inward, a deforming, light-devouring resentment.” - Chapter 2, pg. 31
(ORTUS) “But Ortus said, with his big, sombre eyes and his squashed, disheartened voice: “I do fear death, my Lady Harrowhark.”” - Chapter 3, pg. 41
(MAGNUS) “Up close he had a strong jaw, the expression of the terminally jolly, and nice eyes.” - Chapter 9, pg. 93
(ABIGAIL) “Unlike Magnus, she also had the manner some necromancers and librarians developed when they had been working on dead spells for the last fifteen years and no longer worried too much about the living: her stare was far too intense.” - Chapter 15, pg. 169 & 170
(JUDITH) “The Captain of the Second rose too. Her intensely dark eyes settled on each of them in turn before ending on Teacher.” - Chapter 18, pg. 197
(SILAS) “Silas did not step away, but he turned his head a little from her, as though she were a bad breath. He had very brown eyes, startlingly framed by thick, whitish lashes.” - Chapter 26, pg. 298
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plague-of-insomnia · 1 year
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Mistranslation, Ch 197: What’s In A Title?
Once again I have a major issue with the official translation. This time it’s the way they translated the title of ch 197.
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The title of the chapter is:
その執事、烏合
My translation:
That Butler, Ragtag Group
Official Translation:
The Butler, Flocking
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Literally, 烏合 means “a gathering of crows.”
Interesting when you recall in the anime, Sebastian is a crow demon.
But what it really means is:
烏(からす)の集まりの意》規律も統一もなく寄り集まること。
In English:
A gathering of crows means to gather together without discipline or unity.
“Flock” in English has many meanings, but the one that’s relevant here is:
to gather or go in a flock or crowd (x)
a group under the guidance of a leader (x)
The word “flock” implies order, sameness, and often that they’re guided by someone. This is a very different, almost opposite connotation from the Japanese word Yana used.
I think my translation of “ragtag group” is a better fit.
Ragtag means:
messy and not similar or organized (x)
a disorganized or motley group of people. (x)
I know I’m just a fan translator, but I really think the official translation did an an injustice to Yana’s intent.
Though it does make me curious as to why she titled it this way. The English word “rag tag” has a connotation of a varied group of people, but that’s not necessarily in the original.
Yana could have picked a lot of other words to imply a gathering of a group. But she chose “gathering of crows.”
Crows have a significant role in Japanese mythology:
crows are a major player across Japanese folklore and have a heavy symbolic meaning. Traditionally known as spiritual birds that carry spirits, a famous folklore depicts crows as the birds of death. It was believed that when a crow cawed loudly, there was a death nearby.
Aren’t Bizarre Dolls dead things that “carry spirits”? Could her title be a hint at Undertaker’s purpose for the orphans, using them as vessels?
I highlighted “when a crow cawed loudly… death [is] nearby” because could she have chosen that particular phrase precisely as a hint that someone is going to die soon??
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uwusayssnake · 1 year
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Cutie Snake in ch. 197 & 198
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sunflowercider · 7 months
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Im losing my mind. Lloyd is SO shy and embarrassed about being praised. He's so confident and sly being a salesman but the SECOND he gets genuine praise for his work he just
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tokiro07 · 2 months
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Undead Unluck ch.197 thoughts
[Rider Kick!!!]
(Contents: speculation - Haruka, thematic analysis - life)
Tozuka, we need to talk about your sense for chapter titles. It's "ready, get set, go" not "get set, ready, go." Maybe it's different in Japan?
Anyway
HARUKA DEVELOPMENT!!!
Seeing that Haruka's soul is still her child self from her original backstory, I wonder if we'll be seeing a flashback of how her tragedy was averted. Given Isshin XII's statement that Haruka's heart hasn't matured, my supposition last week that Fuuko's soul resembling her appearance from when she just joined the Union symbolizes that she's the same person at heart seems to have been correct. The shape of a person's soul is a reflection of who they are; Andy is an old soul, Fuuko is a member of the Union, Lucy is a free spirit, and Haruka is a scared child. Cowardice has been a core trait of Haruka's the entire time, and while this arc seemed to suggest that she'd grown out of that between loops, this moment implies that just because she's braver doesn't mean that she isn't scared
Presumably the circumstances of her becoming Unbreakable contributed to her soul taking that shape, a moment in her past that she can't move on from. I doubt her father died the same way this time if at all, but even if it was just the shock of seeing her grandfather die of natural causes, I could see that rooting Haruka's heart in a particular time. It would also be interesting if Tozuka uses that plot point to elaborate on why Haruka got into cobbling, what inspired her to make that choice specifically, and how her relationship with Top developed after she saved his friends. I don't know if that's a story that Tozuka is interested in telling, but it's one I'm interested in reading, for sure!
The other major element of this chapter was Isshin XII's advice to Haruka. "Use the power of those who never merely live and die." Therein lies the thesis statement for this arc and possibly the entire series: "[humans] never merely live and die." We aren't alive just because blood pumps through our veins (Victor's original view) or because we have thoughts in our heads (Andy's original view); we're alive because we can form connections, because we can leave an impact on the world, because we can create
A beast lives on instinct. A beast kills and eats to survive and breed, and one day dies so that something else may feed and survive. As UMA Beast said, beasts do not desire coexistence. I would argue that they don't desire anything, their biology simply compels them to eat and procreate, even if they don't have what we would call an "understanding" of the purpose of their actions
A human, though, can eat to survive, but doesn't have to. Eating can be a purely utilitarian experience, just a way to fuel up the body for the next day, but people don't typically do that. People cook, they maximize the taste of the dish as well as the nutritional value if they even pay attention to it in the first place, and they partake of their meals communally. We do understand the purpose of eating, but that purpose is of secondary concern to anyone outside of a life-or-death scenario; instead, the priority is to enjoy our meals, whether it's through the company we keep, the flavor of the dish, or even simply the joy of creation
And that, I think, is where Unbreakable's true power comes from. Unbreakable isn't slapping two scraps of metal together and calling it a shield, it's an artform, a craft that one dedicates their life to, the culmination of skill and pride passed down for generations. It's not enough to simply know how it works; watching a knitting tutorial on youtube isn't enough to create a beautiful quilt, you have to understand the materials and the tools and the techniques intimately
There's no pride or craftsmanship in Beast simply growing Unbreakable armor. Does a tortoise build its own shell and take pride in it, or does it simply happen to grow around an otherwise oblivious reptile? As I've said a thousand times, Undead Unluck is a series about "the proof of a life lived," and the mastering of an art, the inheritance of a legacy, is just another in a long line of angles that Tozuka has chosen to tackle this theme from
Haruka's new Unbreakable, seemingly able to reconfigure her armor to match someone else, suggests that she has achieved that mastery and pride. Unbreakable is not about rigid conformity to one shape, it's about the ability to adapt to the scenario; "the reed which bends in the wind is stronger than the oak which breaks in a storm." Beast has no understanding or appreciation of the effort that forged Unbreakable itself, much less the armor it creates, and thus does not have the pride nor conviction to allow for it to be flexible or adaptable
Beast has Unbreakable, but he does not have the spirit to create. Beast devalues that which proves that one has lived, and that will ultimately be his undoing
Until next time, let's enjoy life!
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rubienne · 2 years
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Day 197 of drawing the KFC gang til Deltarune ch 3 comes out
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The reason why Su-Won chose to kill Il on Yona’s birthday
Dunno if I made a similar post before (I’ll check) but if we’re going by the whole notion that Su-Won wasn’t going to “put up Yona’s box” aka prioritize her, then I am guessing that he chose her birthday as it was the only day that guaranteed to kill Il for whatever reason. Like perhaps it was the most efficient way to go about it… and regardless of that day being Yona’s birthday, he didn’t prioritize that.
BECAUSE MY DUDE WAS BLOODTHIRSTY ABOVE ALL ELSE
Honestly this is still for vengeance over everything. Like in ch 197, if you recall, Su-Won tells Yon-Hi:
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He could have literally made Il step down without killing him. Dude wanted to personally stab him that night and carelessly left the door open thinking Yona wouldn’t walk in, and he was wrong and then he had to chase her and Hak which risked his entire reign……..
His reasoning is so dumb tho too. He’s like “I cannot prioritize Yona, must make efficient decisions or else country ruined”
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But what he really fails to realize is how his biases towards his dad were already coloring his view - he couldn’t fathom that NOT killing Il might have been a lot more efficient than getting revenge… seriously think about it. Killing Il antagonized his friends and allies, whereas forcing him to step down without making enemies (ex: Hak who wants him dead 💀 and the Wind Tribe that was willing to rebel) is literally more efficient.
I just don’t get it. Like if Soo-Won wanted revenge, just force the bastard off the throne and make him watch you marry his kid against his wishes with everyone else supporting it just to spite him. Like that is already more efficient enough and unites tribes.
But noooo, he had to chose the unnecessarily violent path that puts the nation in danger.
Even Judo is telling him to get off his bullshit because he is not acting for the country at all, he is a very hypocritical man:
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Yeah, he was overcome with sentiment.
So hypocritical. To Su-Won, anything Yu-Hon does is right and efficient and good for the country and anything related Yona does is “inefficient and prioritizing one person over everything else” and it’s literally the opposite which he only started realizing slowly this arc which is fucking hilarious
like when he tried to kill Mei-Nyan cause “Il killed daddy” to the point of forgetting his mother’s pain:
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(Note once again he is trying to separate Yona from the situation) but SHE had to remind him of HIS mom:
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And for instance Geun-tae saving Yona:
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He’s all “I have chosen” (we know he hasn’t) and it’s Geuntae this time who shows him that he’s being an idiotic daddy’s boy:
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And he goes against Su-Won to help Yona out.
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“As father taught me” - WHAT A DADDY'S BOY.
Your father taught you not only how to eliminate enemies, but HOW to make enemies dude…. like yes there are times when making enemies is inevitable but you just made enemies for the heck of it….. which is so dumb….
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Again he realized this only this arc.
Seriously speaking too, I don’t even Yu-Hon even wanted his brother dead. Like even someone as twisted as Yu-Hon killed Kashi to protect Il, and he never raised his sword against him either. Which is why I wonder what his reaction would be if he knew Su-Won killed him…
You killed Il not because you had to, but because you wanted to. Let’s make that clear.
The story blurs the lines and people get confused all the time, but no one is changing my mind on this. He put his personal desire of revenge through stabbing over just making Il step down…. Taking that throne may have been for the country, but that stabbing was for personal revenge.
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