#cc: jawsh

[mcytblrconfessions]

i am making my best friend who hates yaoi watch jawsh's sdmp videos

this is like a form of torture

#confession #mod response #cc: jawsh #smp: sdmp

[springatito-moved]

Touching grass couldn’t even save him 😔

#THISSSS IS NOT JAWSH NEG #well sort of but in the way you jab at ccs u like #but u can rb it and be mean to him if you want I think it’s entertaining

[conarcoin]

tumblrinas be like yeah my favorite cc is jerma / connoreatspants / goodtimeswithscar / ethoslab / technoblade / jack manifold / jawsh / badboyhalo / cscoop / joko / slimecicle / geminitay / michaelmcchill / sneegsnag / pokay / princezam. how could you tell

#mcyt #theres no like correlation here other than tumblrinas love these guys from my experience

[literaphobe]

Anon don’t u dare insult dream like this, remember the millions of time he went to bad on twitter for us against like jawsh and stuff. His whole video about ‘stans’. Dream has never been spineless when it comes to defending his queer poc teenage girl fanbase. He doesn’t like starting fights with other ccs bc it’s a bad look on him but he’s never been spineless

honestly the numerous situations dreams been in could traumatize someone for several lifetimes

#ask #i just want him to be safe and happy…

[dwter]

I feel like tearing into something right now but I’ve been thinking about how dream knows a lot of smaller cc’s view him as this manipulative egotistical weirdo that takes advantage of his fanbase and like it struck with me so suddenly now bc last night while you went snork mimimi he was playing around with sylvee and just talking tiredly and he mentioned something along the lines “also I’m very manipulative apparently” to which they both laughed at but I know maybe I shouldn’t be reading into it too much but it felt like something he was thinking about lately. And I mainly came here to vent about it cause believe it or not mainly smaller cc’s have been driving that narrative since late 2020 (ahem jawsh and co.) and then they continue to drag him through that mud by inflating all of his appreciation towards his fans into unnecessary drama and it fucking annoys the hell out of me even now how he’s been convoluted into this persona that they’ve created for him. Quite literally two things I’ve believed since the start of all this happenings was that: they’re projecting their insecurities of what they’ve experienced, adding the drag-a-longs to their bandwagons to mock him and they’re quite literally trying to profit off these instances so they can fuel their view count just a little more (ie Noah’s interview and every commentary yter ever). I’ve never seen this much vitriol aimed at a person literally just living his life. And it quite clearly has affected him and no one attacking him understands they’re doing more damage than what they’ve accused dream of ever doing onto anyone else

jesus christ that last line. where do i even begin this this like what can u even add. ur so right first and foremost. i dont think any person realizes that the way dream has been treated could never equate the things they accuse him of and the persona theyve created for him to use as a human punching bag. its so fucking horrible to think about how all of this has impacted him and his mental health through the past few years idgaf about parasocialism that is a deeply saddening thing to think about. the level and mass of which he is dehumanized and given such vitriol is srsly almost incomprehensible for such a normal dude and it makes me sick how ppl can sit and act righteous for aiding in this treatment. it feels a mix of pathetic and also just so. mean? there is literally no other word for it it’s literally just meanness for the sake of it, cruelty because they can be. because its dream. its completely ok to monetize his everyday smear campaigns, its completely cool to ignore every instance of him actively working to be a better person and of course its fine to uncritically shit on everyone who dares to like him. because hes dream and as much as being part of the hateful dogpile fuels their egos and superiority, it also fuels their profit—in whatecer form that may be. i rly dont have much else to say this is such an interesting although deeply sad read and i appreciate u taking the time to send it to me. ill be thinking and using what that last lines says forever from now on like you literally just put it into words so well

#ask #i hate thinking about all he has maybe internalized throughout the yesrs as such a hated figure #i hope everyone dies and goes to hell #thank u anonnie for sending this to me and sorry for getting to it so late i hope u are having a good night catKISS 🤍🤍🤍 #essay #discourse tw

[barbiegirldream]

True, they’re deff more likely to be solos they are just quieter about it bc they know the ccs can find them. Dream team fandom started out as 3 different subblrs and even when it joined into dttwt and dtblr it never stopped being those 3 in a way.

Like I would never say I’m a dtkqsgfhghfuf whatever Main. I don’t watch Punz or Quackity or Bad. I don’t dislike Punz or Q in the slightest I just rarely tap in. I would have to be paid money to watch a valorant stream I didn’t even make it past half the first game when Dream was playing.

So why would I claim to be a Sapnap main when I consume next to none of his content. I would never be an SBI Main I don’t watch Philza. I don’t watch Ranboo or Tubbo. The streamers I watch are Dream George Karl Tina Tommy Wilbur. Like that’s literally it. I’m not tapping in to any other streams unless it’s for a game i really like maybe? Lore. or my faves are there

And anyone else on the server I could give less of a fuck about it’s why I make fun of them and Dream would go to war for each of them. so it’s like no I don’t take his words to heart because I’m not these peoples friends I don’t have to see whatever it is he sees in them. I’m not trying to be their friend I’m looking for content to entertain. And when that’s occurring I want it to be with people who are good people. Like that’s all it should not be a hard request to make.

I don’t have to put up with other fans I can just block them. I have every ship I don’t like muted so it doesn’t show up on my tl. I block posts and users for being annoying. I don’t have to put up with the CCs and I won’t. Like Jesus Christ yesterday Jawsh was in my dms telling me I’m a delusional Dream stan who lives in an alternate reality I am not paid to be here. This is the only fandom I have ever been in where people desperately try and pretend like they like everybody

[awesamcozy]

JAWSH???? As in had and army of mcyt Stans and ccs lead by Dream making fun of him jawsh???

listen i know barely anything about the man

#the choir

[strandedcrow]

top 10 tweets that reveal how badly you need to go outside

#this is ALL im saying on aside from the one post abt clowning on him #this whole thing is so funny to me as a former lunch club fan #mans made his community so excrutiatingly toxic and gets mad that other ccs have good relationships w their fans its so wild #jawsh my man its not that deep #dreamwastaken #jawsh #time to go take my chem exam see yall later lmao

[mcytblrconfessions]

whenever i catch up on jawsh sdmp videos or streams i feel like im watching an experience. ive seen this man ar his highest and his lowest i have seen him accomplish great things as well as be tortured for his mind. for every second he is on that server someone is plotting his death, destruction of his builds, blood from his flesh. theres also berd. what the fuck

#confession #best of mcytblrconfessions #cc: jawsh #cc: berdboi #smp: sdmp

[yidiyada]

Twitter being the funniest mfs on the planet whilst very nicely threading the line between “my streamers are dumb as hell” and “I’m aware it’s perfectly legal for them to be dumb” and suddenly every CC is crawling out the walls acting like Jawsh kinnies

#dreamwastaken #georgenotfound #wilbur soot #mcyt #it’s funny #my friends are dumb too and I say the same shit to them #why are they acting like it’s a legal prosecution #I’m not even calling them awful I’m just calling them dumb #genuinely have learned not to expect people to do research outside of govt guidelines #and if guidelines is all you know then ur dumb but like #talks

[conarcoin]

oh, my bad then, i never actually read smpronpa. by the time id heard about it, it was pretty nuked from all public archives. i just remember jawsh being pretty anti-fanfic in general around the time of the controversy \o/ do you know which ccs were in smp ronpa?

to my knowledge the only ccs in smpronpa were cmc, cooper, travis, schlatt, connor, ty, krinios, altrive, angel, gold, poke, wilbur, charlie, ted, techno, sneeg and very briefly joko

[dreamhot]

Lol Jawsh was listening too alongside Prezoh, Hunter and a few other CC’s, idk why they felt the need to keep talking on that space it was such a waste of time and just the set up of the century for dream. Free him from twitter stans, sometimes I think they’re antis deep down 😭

these guys r so weird they're obsessed with dream's fans for some reason

#smile.ask #anon

[newjenns]

new smp bitzel, purpled, stonepa, and any other tiny cc that cant keep dreams name out their mouth

add jawsh

#cirque.du.soleil #discourse

[barbiegirldream]

how many cc notices do u have?

Ummmmmm 3 if you count Jawsh 2 if not

[angeloncewas]

Does the fact that CCs can now get away with a lot by pointing fingers at mcyttwt concern you as well? I keep thinking about that part specifically regarding the party thing. I don't think these responses would be tolerated if they came from other content creators. This is one side effect of the toxic behavior on twitter I feared.

Ohhh boy. Yeah, it does.

(Sorry, I don't think you wanted an essay, but it happened.)

I am very happy that the problems with mcyttwt and the culture it has cultivated over the past few months (give or take) is being brought to light and directly addressed. It's some bullshit cliché rhetoric, but the first step really is recognizing that you have a problem and at first glance this speaks to good things.

We've seen it happening more often in a variety of cases. Remember that thing I always bring up about the twibbons? And how it's completely ridiculous to demand a mass-change of profile pictures on a public platform for the sake of your personal well-being? Well, a similar problem arose yesterday, and the responses were... really good. Some of them were rude - people always take stuff too far - but the top replies were a polite, but firm, "if the pfps are bothering you, maybe you should get off of Twitter." That's progress ! Very good progress as these people recognize and encourage the curation of ones' own environment and mental health. And that's just one example - I've seen plenty of others where I was pleasantly surprised by the way Twitter users pointed out the bad behavior in their midst.

The new problem (or one of them) is that people tend to think in a very black-and-white mentality. I'm not saying I don't - we're all in this together - but it first felt worrying to me in response to Jawsh's repost of his tweets. The ones that fiercely condemn what he refers to as "stan culture," seemingly generalized to twt communities.

People were agreeing with him. Not like a "he makes some good points" type of agreement; a wholehearted, all-in, fuck these people and this platform and everything that mcyttwt is attitude from the stans' own mouths (or, uh, keyboards). The discussion was no longer "here is what our community is now, here are the problems, here's how we fix them," it was about pointedly distancing themselves from that toxic - and frankly embarrassing - group they were just in.

And that's where we get to the content creators themselves.

The timing lines up nicely with that burner thread - the one showcasing mcyttwt in all of its horror and glory - but I'm more inclined to call that a coincidence than a catalyst. Regardless, the creators - after months of cc neg and twitlongers and DNI lists only growing - think that they're fully aware of the state of the "mc twitter" fandom. That it really is this hivemind of crazies who rag on everyone for every little thing. Jawsh was right, Schlatt was right, stans fucking suck and are idiotic little fatherless mentally ill children-

Do you get where I'm going with this?

I'm trying not to sound too slippery slope fallacy-y because I know that poking fun at the flaws of your fanbase (or ones adjacent to you, depending on who you are) doesn't mean you're about to go full Noah Hugbox on their asses. And, at the end of the day, this specific instance was just a legal party with some surrounding debate. A debate that they... didn't even stop to consider. Which is fair, I suppose, they don't owe us anything, but like I said that makes me worried about the precedent that's unwillingly being set.

The fact of the matter is that it's very, very easy to slip into one of two parties: for, or against. When it comes to content creators, this is usually the blind rage they go into when they see criticism and the automatic way their brain files it into the tidy folder up there labelled "hate mail." I feel like we've already seen Dream get close to becoming that kind of person (understandably, he gets a lot of shit) -but he managed to catch himself around his first contact with Hasan and things (I think ?) have been pretty decent since then. Great.

There's no telling how other creators will react to that kind of shift though. And I know it doesn't sound like a big deal because "we don't control their lives," but I'm thinking big-picture here. I'm not pulling arguments out of my ass when I say that seeing "mcyttwt" as a bullshit community full of keyboard warrior sjws who need to go out and touch some grass is a full 180 from the current state of the fandom and that's not inherently good. Mcyttwt is extremely hyper-critical, but their concern often stems from genuine fears as minorities and wants to do better and make sure that other people do the same. I don't think that people outside of the community see that and a lot of the people who criticize it don't want to because they're not actually invested in the community's well-being, they're just mad they can't be racist without getting ratioed anymore. Yes, it's just the internet and some things are pointless to get mad at, but the online space is still the real world and people's shitty-ness is still... shitty.

Do I think they can get away with anything? Not really, no, but I'm curious to see what the future holds. It's easy to be apathetic and say "I don't give a shit what creators do" - have a sort of relationship where criticisms are dismissed because their attitude in turn is "fuck those people" - but in my opinion that's not a healthy way to consume content. That's how all those awful fucking people slid on by for years and the community was dominated by "edgy" folk who'd sooner mock you for your pronouns than give a performative "trans rights." I hope for progress, but this feels a bit like regression.

#DISCLAIMER #THIS IS AN OVERDRAMATIC PERSPECTIVE I AM SPEAKING IN HYPOTHETICALS AND TALKING ABT TWT LIKE IM LOOKING AT A CRYSTAL BALL #you're free to argue with me but pls dont come in here like 'youre reading too far into it' because i know that's literally the point #the other option is that things just keep going as they always have and thats not an interesting topic at all #i dont think im reading TOO far into it but like im a paranoid person so im just built different im weird im a weirdo i dont fit in #okay i think i lost my mind typing this #angel answers #blxtxntly #long post #discourse #cc critical #fandom critical #negative #mcyttwt critical #ask to tag ig idk adhfsdk

[habeascorpseus]

Say what you will about jawsh but God I hope he tears mizkif a new asshole for the stunt he's pulling rn. Mizkif might have "good intentions" but what he's actually doing is enabling Carson to continue the exact behavior that lead his former friends to drop his ass. Not only that, but he's doing it in full display of every one of Carson's former friends, some of whom didn't seem to be aware of mizkif's decision. Watching the end of jawsh's last vod and just seeing his eyes go wide and his voice get really quiet as he just says "oh. wow. um." by seeing Carson on a stream again after spending alleged Months trying to get him to drop content creation and get help just puts into perspective how ABSOLUTELY FUCKED it is for miz to do this. Genuinely, this is horrible and unhelpful to every single party involved. What Carson needs isn't to get back into content creation, he needs to get help and stay off the internet for good. (everyone who knows him says the stress of being a cc is what caused his breakdown and is his excuse for being an absolute piece of shit.) And what the fuck did miz expect to get out of this by, in every sense of the word, betraying the rest of his friends and undoing all the work they'd done indeplatforming Carson and forcing him to leave the public eye? At the end of this all there's going to be is another smoking ruin of a career where there didn't need to be and Carson is still fucking coming back. This is in no way helpful to literally anyone. And again, I really, really hope jawsh tears him apart.

#habeas speaks #discourse #// cmc situation #mizkif crit