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#but for the most part i think it's funny in lgbt spaces
mulderscully · 12 days
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i know it's a silly harhar joke and i find it funny too but characters like alex and buck not realizing they're bisexual for a long time isn't because they're stupid. it's not because they necessarily dislike being attracted to men. it's because of bisexual erasure within both heterosexual and queer space being rampant for a long time and is only starting to get better now. bisexuals make up around 60% of the lgbt+ community, (in the us) but look how long the wikipedia page for bisexual erasure is.
not only do more women/afab people identify as bisexual, but keep in mind that bisexual people overall are much less likely to identify as bisexual to others or be out than gay and lesbian people because part of the bisexual experience is feeling like you're not allowed to even sit at the table, so to speak. most bisexual+ men may have queer feelings and experiences, but they may not examine those things as much as a bisexual women might because biphobia and the patriarchy tie together in a way that is unique to bisexual men.
characters like alex and buck are so impactful because they're new. most bisexual representation in tv and film has been women until recently, and even that is still rare. a character like callie torres on grey's in 2009 — when i was 14! — helped me see myself as a bisexual, but men have not had characters like that until nearly ten years later. and it's not until i even read rwrb in 2020 that i saw any bisexual character not receive some degree of biphobia from their love interest.
representation is important because when we see someone experience what we experience it helps us name something we may not have fully understood about ourselves before and put a name to it because they're on that same journey on screen. alex and buck were always bi, they just didn't know they were allowed to be so. they're not stupid, they were failed by society and had to unlearn their own internalized biphobia and bisexual erasure because so many of us, even subconsciously, think we're not allowed to exist and/or to take up space in a community that we are literally in the acronym of. no one really talks about us except us.
you're not stupid if you didn't know you were bi the whole time, you're not stupid for not knowing when you were a teenager or in your twenties either.
(*i am genderfluid/nb but am mostly using m/f here for the sake of this specific conversation. bisexual nb people exist too.)
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pinkandpurple360 · 4 months
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Something about how Viv described Fizz always bothered me and made me really lose interest in the series before Oops ever happened. She didn't say it directly but if I recall, a friend of her's who works on the show said Viv described Fizz as a Pillow Princess.
And, like, that's a really loaded term to be throwing around in the LGBT space. Being a pillow princess is usually an insult about a sexual partner who does not reciprocate in the relationship. Like, someone who just lets things happen to them and takes from the relationship without putting anything back in and that really bothered me.
Wasn't Fizz supposed to be a self-made successful performer who started from the bottom? Wasn't he supposed to be this strong willed fighter against all the social barriers as well as severe trauma and physical disability who still came out on top despite everything?
To call him a pillow princess was one of the first signs to me that this was not going to be good. It was a neon sign for me stating Fizz wasn't successful, he was handed success. He didn't have a story, he is just a footnote of a story. The really meaningful parts about who he is as a person and how he became who he is today, completely glossed over in favor of fetishizing him.
Season 1 Fizz would top from the bottom and take what he wanted. He would run up behind someone in a brawl and bite their ear off. He would read a room and walk out as he burned it to the ground. He was the definition of "The Most", and I just knew once Viv was said to have described him as a non-reciprocating passive bottom bitch "Pillow Princess", I knew that any hope for a single character in this series to not just be some heteronormative farce of queer relationships was dead.
It was such a drastic change from what I think Brandon had initially written. Alex at the end of season 1 said Fizz "Had two sins wrapped around his fingers". Only for it to be Fizz is getting spit roasted between them.
And then the fizz/ozzie fanatics get upset when the one character Fizz can be sassy, aggressive, assertive and on equal footing with is the one we ship him with.
Very Fizzarozzie writing critical ahead. How it is written what it could be instead. and possibly why. If you like the lovey dovey ship don’t read this thanks
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How much better would it be if Fizz was the one to say “mammon didn’t do shit, neither did Asmodeus, I already was this, I’d be this no matter what” Instead of..daddy telling him how great he is, again, and fizz parroting it back to him. That’s probably why Blitzø was there originally, to help him stop looking for royal approval, and find independence the same way he’s did, or is at least trying to. Because he’s dealing with abuse by a royal too. The potential empathy there is lost.
And the funny part is it would have been way more successful. The super corny ‘crooked’ song is the least popular from that episode by a massive margin except for niche fangirls and like you and I both know, the fujoshi.
And yeah you explained why I like blitzfizz more pretty well. Some people want DDLG diaper wetting Fizz and I want the Fizz we were introduced to, assertive not wimpy and submissive out of fear.
I’m so pissed that his introduction in Ozzies is now ditched and he’s been turned into someone absolutely starving for male approval, specifically royal male approval. [Before Ozzies, if you like the wholesome ship this isn’t for you] Don’t forget what character inspired Fizz, Beetlejuice. And he’s a manipulative villainous character trying to dupe you. I can tell there was a more mature idea for Fizz to be an actual sugar baby happy to mooch of Asmodeus and manipulate mammon as well. He was possibly going after a ring so he can become immortal. Going by both his song ‘drama queen’ and the Bjuice plot where he goes after marriage. But instead we get Twilight levels of writing.
I’ve spent enough time in queer spaces to know the difference between how gay men see their sex lives and how uh… people who are not gay men and are definitely not fujoshi or anything think they see their sex lives. For example: Another thing Viv said that grossed me out was that she tries to have her lgbt couples with one having “masculine energy” and “feminine energy”….not all queer couples are like that. Some are, but most really aren’t because what the F is feminine energy? It gives the vibe of using straight people as a blueprint. So it’s fair to say you can read into it. He’s “the woman” to Viv and in a different way, to some people in the fandom, they change his canon gender not for trans representation, but to make him hermaphrodite (not intersex, which is a different thing) and get pregnant. Like they are obsessed with making him have both genitalia and I have no idea why, it creeps me out. Because it’s never about intersex or trans struggles it’s just a fetish.
A pillow princess -_- right…I want to know where he was born, how he feels about his childhood being taken away from him, what he has to say about the entertainment industry—not how energetic or placid he is during sex. Gross. I’m calling CPS
I thought pillow princess was a lesbian term? Also you’re correct. It’s someone who just lays there and lets things happen to them, a selfish lover, like Verosika criticised Blitzø for being. Stella used similar language describing a pillow princess, which was supposedly meant to imply that stolas barely consented.
Sorry I know it’s weird but I could barely sexualise him knowing I’m a woman and he’s a gay man, and the fact in my minds eye I still see him like This:
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Cute widdle baby hands..I’d adopt him. How did this angel end up in hell 🥺
And I’m not saying it’s not ok to see him that way because obviously he’s an adult now, but I really don’t need to know what his kinks are and whether he tops or bottoms ffs. I should be allowed to not sexualise him lol.
Ohhh your third paragraph…how I mourn the story we could have had instead of “I need male approval not for my reputation or my career or my status in life or my self esteem or where I came from, I don’t care about any of that, I’ll lose my boyfriend!!” She even teased us with a good story by having Fizz say “Oz, working for mammon is a big deal to me” (in the end it was just because mammon gave him his boyfriend Asmodeus -_-) “this, is for me” (This is for Ozzie so that I don’t lose him and I’m barely worthy of him) He is astring
I can tell Viv rewrote it because we started out with this much darker Fizz within the form of a robot. An angry blast from the past Blitz couldn’t forget about and couldn’t measure up to, and was also really attracted to. Even if it’s not the real thing. But this personality was changed to be Ozzies pet, then changed again to his ‘soulmate’ for more shipping fodder. Like many people have pointed out, the change from stolas as the villain to blitzos boyfriend has caused massive ripple effects, Ozzie was supposed to be Fizz’s boss who he has a secret scheme against, possibly the secret selling of Asmodean crystals. I’m basing this off of the magazine article which is probably the ditched story. Another thing is mammon and Ozzie were introduced as business partners obsessed with Fizz who in turn is making bank off of them both. All of blitzos exes and potential new love interests have been sorted into neat little pairs except stolas. It’s a weird fujoshi marketing strategy.
And now instead, we have baby girl pillow princess queen clussy fizz, his cuck boss who sees him as a son, as his doting sugar daddy therapist 😵‍💫
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polyhexian · 1 year
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Nate ranks every transformers thing ever
What:
- Eugenesis
i have no idea how i can ethically rank this as good or bad. its good. its bad. its canon. its fanfiction. it is what it is. dont read eugenesis. please read eugenesis.
God tier:
- Rescue bots
i am not joking. i am not memeing. rescue bots is the best thing to ever come out of the transformers franchise. its the only series to break the three season curse and get a fourth season. it has more episodes than any other series, over 100. it didn’t get cancelled because it wasn’t popular, it ended because they ran out of stories they wanted to tell. then they dropped a sequel series with TWO more seasons. they gave nicole duboc a mainline series for this.
- Mtmte/lost light
life changing. incredible. ruined my life. saved my life. jro is my enemy. jro is my best friend. jro is my dad. i met him once. i showed him my hard copy of eugenesis i paid 150 dollars for and had him sign it. he probably thinks im insane. he DID sign it tho. i think about whirl and cdrw every day of my life
- Cyberverse
I LOVE CYBERVERSE SO MUCH... I don't think any series has captured the pure unbridled chaos of the entire franchise so well. It has so many characters and all of them feel RIGHT. I love the art style. I Love this unhinged soundwave. I LOVE the fresh and interesting new ideas if brought to the table. Season 3 was incredible. The season 4 specials destroyed me. TARN??? TARN IS HERE???
- Rescue bots academy
- Rise of the Beasts
I think that Bumblebee is an objectively better film, I just had more fun watching ROTB lol
- Bumblebee movie
BABY GIRL MY BABY DAUGHTER BABY GIRL BABY BABY
- Earthspark
- Botbots
Yes I am in fact putting botbots this high. This show was so unrepentantly funny. The goof at the beginning show us like oooh space ENERGON crashed to earth the war... Anyway none of that matters lets go to the mall. That is SO funny. They did a chopping mall parody and a Hamilton parody. The protagonist is an unhinged megalomaniac burger.
- Beast wars
don't worry about the visuals you get used to them so fucking fast. beast wars is incredible. the storytelling has so much depth. tigatrons big episode about the cost of their war against the planet and defining what protecting the planet even means changed me. theres an entire episode about farting and rampage and depth charge wanna hate fuck SO bad its fucking unreal
- Recordicons
you WILL acknowledge david willis’s contribution to lgbt history and you WILL laugh at his very funny memes
Great tier:
- Transformers Prime
- Transformers Animated
waspy baby.....
- Idw shattered glass
IM UNHINGED ABOUT SG STARSCREAM AND SG STARFIRE IM ABSOLUTELY UNHINGED
- 86 movie (Bluray remaster)
-the five minutes at the end of earthrise when cog became the main character for some reason
This was the funniest shit I've ever seen. One of the worst most boring shitty tf shows I've sat through with characters I truly care nothing for suddenly lurched sideways as out of fucking nowhere and for no reason at all a random background character suddenly took over the plot and gave the most harrowing performance I've seen in awhile in this horrifically tragic death scene that had my jaw on the floor. And then we just moved on and never spoke of it again ckdhzhcjof. WHAT WAS THAT.... LITERALLY WHAT WAS THAT AND WHY DID THAT HAPPEN....
- Armada (the starscream and Optimus parts)
It is UNREAL how good the starscream and Optimus bits are in this show. When the rest of it is pretty terrible. I would say after starscream dies it's pretty meh but not outright bad, just sort of nothin. The first couple episodes tho are so funny because they're so bad they had no script and were all but ad-libbing the whole thing. They couldn't go two minutes without getting a characters name wrong. Incredible. Anyway this starscream is legendary for being such an interesting and dynamic character with the best design ever. And just like. The coolest character arc.
Okay but also just like do not watch this show in English. The English version is awful and it is More than just a dub!! The Japanese version was finished AFTER the American version despite being animated in Japan!! Because the show! Was not! Done!!! The Japanese version of the show is called micron legend and it's practically a different show. Do yourself a favor and watched micron legend subbed.
- Victory
STAR SABER IS MY DAD OK
also the plot hinges around the premise that current autobot commander star saber found a human infant floating through space and legally adopted him. That's incredible come on
- IDW windblade mini
saren stone could kill me with a brick and i would thank them
- Transformers RiD15 IDW comic
Good tier:
- IDW2
- MMC mnemo/notif comic *
- Transformers go!
FUCK YEAH DRAGONS
- Funpub shattered glass
- Beast Wars uprising
DID YOU KNOW EJECT HAS A FUCKING SON?
Okay Tier:
- Wfc: Siege
- Zone
homosexual
- Challenge of the Go Bots *
Bad tier:
- The rest of IDW1
- G1
I'm not sorry for this. I don't like it. Boo
- Japanese headmasters
- Armada (the rest of it)
- Energon
- American headmasters
- Robotix *
im fucking unironically convinced when this flopped they just reused the plot for headmasters
- Wfc: earthrise
- Super god masterforce
- Beast wars 2
- Beast wars neo
- Beast machines
- RiD 2001
- 86 movie (pre bluray remaster)
- Cybertron
- Vanpires *
the wildest shit ive ever seen. ive watched every episode. imagine the cgi of beast wars season 1 with integrated live action. theres vampire cars and they "drain the gas from innocent cars" when cars??? not sentient???? the human children got irradiated and now they can turn into fucking horrible car beasts. why was this fucking made
- Bayverse
- Machinama’s Prime Wars
You know a series is bad when the first thing I want to complain about is the sound mixing
- Go-bots (transformers branded)
- Wfc: kingdom
Elite one my beloved I am so fucking sorry
Burn in hell tier:
- Rid15
Copaganda to rival paw patrol
- Exodus
This book called me a slur
- Hayato sakamoto’s Transformers Legends
- Kiss players
The worst thing transformers has ever done
??? (I still havent read/watched these) tier:
- Robot Masters
- Devastation
I played twenty minutes of this
- WfC
I’ve actually played a few hours of this but i got bored and didn’t finish so I don’t feel like i should rate it, but ultimately i just found it kind of generic and it didnt grab me
-FoC
-Wings Universe
-Unite Warriors
this is illustrated by hayato sakamoto and ive seen enough of like, the horny bathtub art and oversexualized female characters to assume its most likely shit tier, but i think he also brought breakdown back to life and canonized kobd? I do legitimately want to read this eventually
-Transtech
-Marvel comics
-GI Joe transformers crossover comics
-Dreamwave comics
-new energon universe image comic
-Q transformers
I have actually watched the subbed episodes of this but, there’s so few of them and its so clearly not intended for me since this is like a little silly flash cartoon specifically for japanese fans of transformers that its like, of course i dont really get the jokes or anything so even though i found this kind of boring i dont think its bad and i dont feel comfortable putting it on a tier
- TFP tie in games
- Bayverse tie in games
- Earth Wars
Energon enema though
- IDW MLP crossover
- Nezha
Nezha is lost media but it has toys and I have one so uhhhh I guess I'm acknowledging it theoretically exists
* don't act like this doesn't count, once you're deep enough to make a list ranking every transformers thing ever made you have to start counting this type of shit too
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lily-orchard · 1 year
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So I'm curious what all this new keffals shit is about
Like any Debate streamer, Keffals hates Republicans, but what she hates even more are "wokescolds." This being anyone who checks her on bigoted language or behaviour of any kind. In the mind of a debate bro, any criticism at all of any kind of "leftist infighting" and "wokescolds."
So Keffals has gotten increasingly incensed at LGBT people and people of color who object to her near constant barrage of 4Chan language and behavior, and recently suggested that her audience should make Picrew accounts and "infiltrate" "tenderq***r" spaces to cause trouble, the idea being that if they do it, then all picrew accounts become suspicious and they'll start ripping each other apart.
In part of doing this she encouraged her mostly white audience to make black picrews in the hopes of convincing the *tenderq***rs" to become violently racist as well. This is all terrible, but it's also the default setting of Debate Bros. The only "wokescolds" are them, because they keep having these shit-flinging meltdowns if anyone so much as looks at them funny. A Debate Streamer will think you're great until you mildly criticize them at which point they go on the warpath. Like any Republican they cry about "cancelling" while simultaneously trying to harass all critics out of existence.
Where this all falls apart is the same problem as #NotYourShield and #EndFathersDay in that Keffals' imaginary boogeymen aren't real, and other LGBT people aren't as pitifully stupid as she and her audience are. This is a woman who responded to being shown proof she was wrong about something with "I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I don't care!" And there's footage passed around of her telling people to do this.
Like, she actually says "They can't find out what we're doing" BITCH YOU'RE LITERALLY STREAMING YOURSELF TELLING PEOPLE TO DO IT!"
So people will catch on quickly and what's likely going to happen is that the most people will do is stop using Picrews (and nothing of value will be lost) and then nothing else of note will actually happen because once they're outside the echo chamber, Debate Bro audiences tend to flounder because the only rhetorical skills they know is calling something noun-tard and that's literally it.
These aren't smart people. Debate Streamers are not very smart, and their only tactic is looking smug and punchable while they say something completely and utterly braindead. And their audience is even dumber. They aren't "infiltrating" anything.
But people caught on EVEN FASTER and just started flaying Keffals alive for even suggesting it in the first place and now she's just spending all her time having a tantrum over being caught in 4K. So smooth move dicks for brains. You sure owned the "wokescolds" lol.
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mx-rh · 5 months
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Hi @taylorswift,
I don’t really know why I feel such a need to write to you, but I’m gonna do it because then maybe I’ll be able to get on with the other shit I need to do today (honestly thank goodness for writing when it comes to needing to just empty your thoughts into something so you can get the hell on with just life!)
Anyway, I’m not going to say that I’ve been a long time fan - the truth is, I really haven’t. In fact when I was growing up I found myself in an ‘emo kid’ phase, and I never really grew out of that, but looking back now as a 31 year old, isn’t it mad that people judge the music you listen to because of how you dress? Or the make up you wear? Or the way you style your hair? Growing up, I’m pretty sure I actively didn’t listen to your music to keep up an image that was expected of me because I wore black and had lip piercings. Life is wild. I feel like you’re doing your bit to break the walls between genres down. I think that’s all music is for everyone, and people shouldn’t be judge for what they love, so on behalf of younger kids that are finding their way, their style, thank you.
That’s the first of many thank yous I have for you and your music in recent months actually…
I’ve always struggled with my mental health, from health anxiety, eating disorders, gender dysphoria, ocd, ptsd, dissociation…therapy helps but occasionally, things will pile up so much that I find myself needing something so completely removed from who I believe I am to just feel some kind of relief from everything. This happened not too long ago, and the I found the relief I needed in your music. It took me to somewhere so completely new and unfamiliar, it was like my mind was taking a vacation to an unknown and unexplored world and my god did it need it, to just not be in reality for a little while. Thank you for providing me with my means of escape.
I didn’t expect, though, to come face to face with so many of my experiences that had been so unapproachable in me.
I didn’t expect to cry for the first time about the passing of one of my Nans when I first heard Marjorie. Along with my mum, I was a carer for my Nan while she was living with dementia. She lived with us, and she died with us in our family home, but what hurt most was losing her so many months before she died. She was the bravest, most incredible, feisty, funny and full of life person I’ve ever known, and seeing that person fade away in front of my eyes was heartbreaking, but instead of grieving I locked it away, I had to look after my mum. I think about my Nan every day now, she is alive in my head, thank you for bringing her back to me.
I didn’t expect to scream into my pillow after hearing Death By A Thousand Cuts because it took me to a past relationship that was so mentally, physically and sexually abusive that I almost didn’t make it out, to a court case that I lost, and to a part of me that the closest people in my life now don’t know about because it’s been stored so deeply within me that some days I could almost get by without it affecting me in some way. It came right to the front of my mind, and I was able to go to my therapist who helped me to safely resolve things in a way that allows me to be live with it as part of my story without it ruling over my life. Thank you for being the catalyst that I needed to push through that trauma.
I didn’t expect to come out of the Eras Tour Film the week that the UK government announced its anti-trans policies and plans feeling powerful in my skin as a trans non-binary person. I was inspired by your commitment to diversity and inclusion within your performers, and at a time when I felt scared and unable to safely be myself, seeing lgbt representation on your stage reminded me that I am strong and I am human and I deserve to be here and respected in whatever form I choose. That week, I launched an lgbt social platform that is providing a safe space for the community to be who they are without question. Thank you for giving me the strength to make a difference.
I didn’t expect to hear Soon You’ll Get Better and think about my Auntie and other Nan who were both fighting cancer at the same time and died within 6 months of each other, my Auntie first and then my Nan. At the time this happened, I was trying to get through my last year uni, I was by myself without my family around me, and I had to shut the locked the grief so that I could focus on pushing forward. I passed uni but I failed to keep the grief out, I became so terrified of losing loved ones that I shut everyone out, and as a result I ended up losing the part of myself that new how to love those around them, and be loved in return. Even in my relationship I struggled until recent months to truly let myself just be present within it. This song helped me to process what happened in a safe way and bring them parts of me out again. Not long after, I proposed to be partner, she said yes, we’re all in, both of us together, thank you for renewing my ability to love, and be loved.
Today I on the second of 2 charity challenge days, during which I’m rebuilding the website for a charity called Swings and Smile, who work to improve the quality of life for disabled children and their families. As a marketer and web developer, I try to help out where I can with small businesses and non-profit organisations. Swings and Smiles have looked after my partners sister, Katie, for many years. Katie is an incredible kid with various additional needs, and she gets so much joy being at the centre. It’s been a pleasure so far working on a new website for them that will (hopefully!) increase their exposure and support levels, but sitting down for 16 hours each day for two days to get the site done is difficult. Your music has been on repeat in the background the whole time, and it’s kept me focused on this project that means so much to so many. Thank you keeping me company and keeping me working hard for those that need me to be.
So much has happed over the past few months for me, and it’s mad to think that it could all be down to one person who is an actual stranger and their music. And yet here I am completely in awe of the effect the right words can have when they’re heard at the right time. I don’t really know if there is a right time to deal with stuff like this, but your words helped to make the the last few months the right time for me. Little by little that locked chest opened to reveal so many dark rooms within me that had been gathering dust. Now, they’re starting to come to life with light, even if right now it’s a little dim, it’s a step in the right direction.
Thank you for putting your experiences out there for those of us that need something to relate too. Thank you for working relentlessly despite the difficulties you’ve faced because you’re making people like me work harder towards things that matter. Thank you for sticking around in the music industry for long enough that this 31 year old could find your music after passing it up for so many years.
I hope you are safe and well. I hope your fur babies are doing well, my 3 cats, Cody (grey), Dexter (black), and Sprite (ginger) are all asleep in their favourite spots right now, none of which are any of the many beds we’ve bought them!
I have tickets to one of your London shows next year, I’m so excited to see you! And, while I’d love to hear back from you just to know that you know that I am 5ever grateful for what you’ve done for me in such a short time, at least I know for sure I’ll be able to get on with the rest of my stuff now I’ve written this all down!
Robyn x
@taylornation
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deanismysavior · 2 years
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I lurk here cause I’m a fan of ST and I wish I could support Byler because Mike and Will are clearly more compatible for each other than Mike and El. I guess I’m a closeted Byler shipper. It’s just… I’m a Christian, I was raised that way, and my religious beliefs contradict that and keep me from diving in. I don’t wanna be homophobic because I GENUINELY don’t have any personal problems with the LGBT+ community and do have gay friends. I have no personal prejudice against gay people, nothing in my heart that makes me see gay people as “less than” in any way (I’m also probably a little queer myself, honestly). It’s just that, I see certain verses or whatever that go sharply against it and I’m like, “ahhhh.” I don’t wanna pick and choose verses based on how they make me feel. It feels like all or nothing. But I do like Byler. And I love reading your posts because I am overwhelmed with the obvious love these boys have for each other. But I can’t publicly endorse it. I’m like, “I know it’s wrong, but…” I don’t know if that makes sense
I can empathize with feeling like you're not able to support the type of love that you see or feel because of what you were taught to believe. I'm not sure what denomination you were brought up in or what biblical translation you've read, and obviously I don't want to overstep because as someone who is spiritual myself, I know faith is a very personal thing, but I also believe that it's important for all of us to challenge our beliefs and be open to looking at new interpretations of what is presented to us, and I think if you're feeling a certain amount of discomfort around how the Bible frames queerness (your own and others'), it might not be such a bad idea to look at the various interpretations of what those verses in the scripture really mean. I recently found an interesting post about what gets lost in translation from the original Hebrew version of the Bible that I'll link below for you if you'd like to take a look (you have to scroll down a bit to get to the actual translation part but the comic bit is funny too). I think, though, that love is one of the least shameful and most human emotions that we can feel, and feeling shame for our love only makes us less loving people, towards ourselves and towards others. I'm happy that my blog can serve as somewhat of a safe space for you and that you enjoy the content I make here even if it's not something you can outwardly express. Sending you love and light always ❤️
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savefrog · 2 years
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That last post is so funny. Besides the whole "GIVING TREX FEATHERS IS LITERALLY GAY. ITS LGBTS RUINING EVERYTHING"
I especially love the "DO YOU NEED TO SEE T REX SHIT TO FEEL SAFE" as though shitting was part of the evil lgbt leftist agenda?? Shitting and pooping propoganda???
But. The irony of them acknowledging T Rex did all these things but depicting it as anything but a brainless death monster is "to make you feel safe" when it's so obvious that they're the one who feels discomforted by not being catered too and is wanting the safe unchallenging depiction back is both so stupid yet unsurprising
And you know what. MY NEW HOT TAKE: MAYBE T REX IS GAY. (Metaphorically)
This is not dead serious but. I have thoughts. Here's my essay based on the gutfelt comradery I feel toward t Rex: Every accusation from the conservative right to anyone/thing being outwardly LGBT is filled with mentions of Safe Spaces and catering and the softening of society. But they're the ones who are deeply uncomfortable, not ok handling their worldview being challenged and wanting to make the world their "Safe Space" by asking people to conform when it's not their damn fucking business (but anyone else existing is "shoving it down their throats). They think they're rebels just because they're being assholes and facing the repercussions.
In reality it's LGBT people who are the ones being rebellious, who are tough as shit for not conforming and being themselves and challenging society. Just because society is becoming more accepting doesn't mean it's easy at all. And science supports LGBT people.
Depicting T rex with feathers is something that CHALLENGES people. It took a long time for it to even reach the public and even now it is scoffed at for shallow reasons. Even with science supporting feathers on dinosaurs (SCIENCE NOTE: It's still unlikely adult T rex was feathered, but likely young t rex was. But the rejection I'm talking about isn't "T rex would've overheated and we only have evidence of its predescors having feathers not first hand evidence-" im talking about the "ITS NOT JURASSIC PARK" kind of rejection) people won't accept it to the point that it took this long for the Jurassic World series to acknowledge it (ANOTHER NOTE: We actually knew velociraptor likely had feathers by the time the movie was made.)
And similarly, depicting T rex as an actual living animal that cared for its young and slept and probably didn't Roar and probably spent most of its time chilling out like most large predators do is CHALLENGING. This is the "rebellious stance" in mainstream media because it challenges the decades old view of dinosaurs as defunct slow lizards that were replaced by something "better". (Theres even something to be said about how Christian Creationist viewpoints drove this thinking) People FLIP when T rex doesn't match what THEY think it should be. They selfishly want a cool movie monster and don't consider that a living animal exists outside of what humans WANT it to be.
Both T rex and LGBT people are called soft and weak just for being true to themselves, when doing so is actually an active battle.
They both have science on their side, and yet people insist it is wrong simply because it doesn't match what THEY feel. They blame realistic depictions (of lgbt couples, youth or just dinosaurs not killing something) for being Too Soft as though we must be ready to KILL at ALL TIMES. (GIVE T REX GUNS) Both are easier for mainstream people to consume when they're exaggerated for show, but when it comes to real life, people are once again uncomfortable with what they aren't used to.
And that side has recently lost in a way. People eventually learn. The scale has gone to the other side in support of LGBT people, and feathers on dinosaurs. But this has created the illusion that these are now just status quo and to oppose them is rebellion, when historically that is not true and historically you are just adhering to inflexibility; their mindset didn't change, but much of society did learn and grow.
And the absurdity of just being true to life and science being "The Rebellious Side" feels so absurd.
And the ignorant only take pride in rebellion when it supports their shortsightedness.
Whereas the rebellion of being gay, trans and believing dinosaurs had feathers is a rebellion based on open-mindedness and learning new things.
Anyway that's my really stupid essay on why I feel a connection to T rex and why its a potential LGBT symbol. Also I want the gays to claim T rex en masse to make that Facebook guy mad.
Also t rex was gay and trans. It's called T rex for fucks sake !!!!! he's trans masc I saw him wearing novelty button up shirts.
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Don't care about that heteronormative ask. People, especially on the internet were faces and names can be hidden, have a tendency to just feel and not think things through or that certain things can just be fine and ok for others. Wanting kids and having kids or deciding not to have- it's not an attack on their decision or life choices and they shouldn't behave like random people on tumblr needs to have the same view them to be a decent human. Growing up to an adult means that you need to be able to live alongside people who lives a different life than you and has a different meaning of what will fulfill their life and respect that. Harmless head-canons about a fictional couple is not the place to take up the conversation about why people, straight or gay, wants to have kids. Good that you stood up for yourself. It just makes me upset that even harmless fun in fandoms needs to be "woke" and everything that is not- it's wrong. Which is not. If they want fictional couples that is childfree, they can make their own HC, fanfics or whatever about those characters and leave other alone. Sorry for the rant, hope you have a nice summer❤️❤️
Thank you anon! To be clear that ask was from a couple of years ago, it just come up in my activity and I was reminded of the most inane convo I had over three days. But thanks for the support.
People really find the worst possible takes regarding fan headcanons. It was a lighthearted post about wu and mako having children together, a pairing that isn’t endgame and I’m not begging for to be made canon (would rather it’s not), nor was it a headcanon I held exclusively. Like it was just a fanfic headcanon. The assumption that I headcanon every queer couple with children based on a post with two whole lgbt couples in it is so stupid. It’s the most bad faith reading of a post that was meant to be funny, and for what? Stopping me headcanoning children
I’m all for discussing heteronormativity and queerness (I.e. queer couples have to portray themselves as just like heterosexual ppl to be accepted) but I think pretending that queer people don’t want children or aren’t raising them this moment is just ignorant to real life. Family life is a big part of life. Chronically online discourse turns progressive talking points into regressive ones; with the failure to acknowledge that people do not do things they’re ���supposed’ to do or they do things they shouldn’t.
Especially in fandom spaces, this isn’t activism.
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I'm ace, and I really hate the way people are now using aces as a shield for their "no kink at pride" stuff. It was less than a decade ago that everyone was claiming all aces were homophobes because some of us are sex-repulsed (and some sex-repulsed aces, instead of dealing with that maturely, made it everyone else's problem). I remember when people were saying aces shouldn't be allowed into LGBT spaces, and that aces shouldn't call ourselves queer.
Likewise, it irks me that the "think of the poor aces and kids having to see kinky stuff" is so conflated. It's not just the infantilization that vexes me, either. It's the fact that aces were accused of being pedophiles. Aphobes didn't want to believe we weren't sexually attracted to anyone, so they claimed we were sexually attracted to children. Our allies were accused of being pedophiles. If you dared to acknowledge that teens and tweens can be ace, you were sexualizing allo children. (Except how dare we say allo.) After all, how dare anyone acknowledge that yes, most teens are horny and feel sexual attraction (even if they're often too young to be safe and mature when it comes to acting on it), but ace teens don't feel that attraction.
The anti-kink crowd does not get to claim they care so much about us. And if there's any aces who have fallen in with that crowd reading this? The anti-kink crowd is not your friend. Radfems are not your friend. The second it's popular to shit on aces again, they will turn around and chew you up.
Part of being a side note queer identity is being ignored, demonized and weaponized agaknst others at the behest of more established identities. People kicking down on you will still attempt to pull you onto their side when kivking down on others. It's a promise of acceptance and it's how hierarchy is maintained all across the spectrum of different politicised identities. Sometimes you may even punch up at more established or powerful identities if it means you please someone else and reenforce the general social order.
Funny you mention teenagers bc they're in the exact same boat. Sexless when you wanna use them to censor anything, sex crazed maniacs when you wanna point at bad influences you wanna remove from the public, immature when you talk about sex or responsibility, but mature when you wanna recruit them to die on a landmine overseas.
Also teens can act on sexual attraction just fine, there is more ways of acting on attraction than a specific age gap relationship that's associated with a lot of risks.
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mxbutchtwink · 2 years
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1 through 6, 32 and 36 for the pride asks? And Happy Pride!!! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️💖
1. Gender and pronouns?
I don't think there's a name for my gender, but genderfluid is the best fit I have rn. I use any pronouns, though my relationship with he/him and she/her are complicated at times. I prefer vae/vem/vaers over all of them :)
2. Romantic orientation?
I'm Aromantic! And not interested in romantic relationships at the moment
3. Sexual orientation?
Bisexual or Pansexual, attracted to all genders, also VERY T4T lol
4. Past labels you've used?
A lot ahaha. I've identified as a man and a woman in the past, switched to nonbinary a couple times, thought I only liked men, thought I only liked women, thought I was asexual, I've made up my own labels before because none of the preexisting ones seemed to fit. Identity is hard, name literally and label I've probably considered it before. I'm a bit of a mess but it's helped me figure things out (a bit).
5. How long have you been using your current labels?
I don't know exactly, but a little less than a year I believe? I thought I was nonbinary when I started my current job and I've been there for a year now.
6. What made you realize your current label fits you?
There's still a lot about genderfluidity that I don't really understand, but when I realized that I didn't have to be feminine to be a girl or masculine to be a man that was a game changer for me. Most genderfluid people are presented as a gender conforming man one day and a gender conforming woman next and that's just not how I felt at all. Sometimes I'll have girl days and I'll wear a hoodie and jeans or a typical "butch" outfit, sometimes I'll have guy days and wear eyeliner and a crop top, sometimes I'll have days where I am gender conforming, the line between man and woman gets blurred a lot and I find there's a ton of freedom in that. Nonbinary is a very important label to me be I didn't feel like it exactly captured my experience, I feel like I fluctuate between different ways to be nonbinary a lot. Maybe there's another label that would fit me better but genderfluid is the closest I've found so far.
32. Something you wish people understood about your identity?
Honestly I wish people understood and were more accepting of neopronouns. Not just for me but for everyone, there's so much history behind them that's really beautiful and I wish I had a group of people irl who were supportive and comfortable using them. The thought that I might never actually get to use my pronouns anywhere outside of niche lgbt spaces is really depressing. It's one of those things that I try not to think about too much, and I know it'll get harder for me as I get older. There are a lot of bigger issues in the community, and I hope one day we can all safely and unapologetically be ourselves.
36. Do you align with any gay subcategories? (Butch/femme, bear/twink, etc.)
You know it's actually funny because I have both butch and twink in my username lol. I identify with aspects of both labels, with twink it's the smaller body type and being femme, and I like that butch describes masculinity that's not reserved for men, they're both really cool subcultures. Idk if I'd really consider myself a part of one of the other, as I'm not involved in the communities (and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't accept me oof). Maybe being a butch twink is a community on its own idk. If you're a butch twink let me know let's start a club baby!!
Thank you for the questions this was really fun :)
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it’s honestly so hard to try to be in lgbt spaces with a completely un-nuanced queer orientation! my gender is slightly complicated internally but for the most part i present as a he/him (trans but “stealth”, though i hate that term) man attracted to only men and every single time i state this i’m met with confusion about how i can be “just gay” and told that men are gross, i should try women sometime. i can imagine this is even worse for lesbians! it’s like it’s seen as unenlightened and anti-progressive to not have a fluid orientation or something. sorry if this is unwelcome discussion in your inbox feel free to ignore it have a lovely day!!!!
as a dyke i'd never tell gay men to "try women out" because i know how that feels from the other side yk? esp gay trans men i think it's a very uncomfortable implication to make on its own i wouldn't like it when you Also have a whole section of ppl thinking they know you better than you. and it's so funny (read: harmful) how people just circle back to telling gay people that we should "try" heterosexuality.
due to very personal situations i too find myself complicated in that area, or at least the way i relate to it, but i'm mostly at peace with that, i think it's somewhat expected so i don't bother too much. well sometimes i do. but it's ok
i don't reaaaaally love having to defend MY orientation and MY gender but erh it's tumblr i appreciate your input
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benis-monkey · 9 months
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SERIOUS POST
Hey so uh- funny story.
I used to be transphobic.
In fact, I used to be very bigoted against many groups.
Note the word USED to be.
Every transphobic thought has been cleanly plucked from my mind about 5 or so years ago.
Thankfully, I never had any confrontations or interactions with trans people while I held these hateful beliefs, so rest assured I have never harmed any trans people.
So I thought I would give some context as to why some hate trans people so much (at least from my memory)
Keep in mind, this was before the whole “groomer” narrative was a thing.
In my experience, two major factors were key in the fostering of transphobia in my mind: isolation and algorithms.
At the time, I didn’t know any trans people. The only look I ever had at trans folks was through a transphobic, hateful lens (e.g “AtTaCk HeLiCoPtEr” memes). So because I never had any interaction with trans people, that opened my interpretation of them to be molded and shaped by whatever entity came first to do so.
Now, algorithms. As I just mentioned, I only ever saw or heard about trans folk through a lens of hate and bigotry. So I only saw the “worst” of the trans community. The notorious “it’s MA’AM” video, which I now realize is a depiction of a trans woman stalwartly asserting her identity, was shared around these hateful spaces online, and was used as a way to say “look at how ridiculous this person is! They’re clearly a man!” …just typing that makes me feel yucky now.
Reactionary content on YouTube was also a major influence. I remember the YouTuber Hunter Avalone being one of the channels I watched the most. And since I kept clicking on transphobic content, YouTube kept recommending it. This led me down the infamous alt-right pipeline. Soon, I was also espousing beliefs that were racist, sexist, islamophobic, and classist. Hell, I even believed that billionaires were good people! But homophobia never made it with me.
I myself am bi/pan, and lean heavily towards men/male-presenting/masculine people, and towards androgynous people.
So seeing the firehose of hateful bigotry being pointed at myself finally snapped me to me senses. Because I knew other non-straight people. I knew they weren’t what the alt-right wanted me to think they were.
Seeing a community that I’m a part of being put under this lens of hate made me realize that it’s the same lens that every other marginalized community is put under. A lens of “different bad. Progress bad.”
I clawed my way out of this hateful pipeline. I expanded my horizons and connected with people in these marginalized groups.
So what I’m saying is, if you know anyone who is falling down this pipeline, arguing with them won’t do anything. The best way to rid them of their hateful bigotry is to show them the true nature of the LGBT community, the POC community, and other marginalized communities. Show them that they’re all just people wanting to live their lives.
The alt-right pipeline is no joke. It’s a dangerous downward spiral that can radicalize someone overnight. If you know someone falling down this pipeline, reach out to them. Invite them to a discord server with people from marginalized groups. Introduce them to your LGBT, POC, and non-Christian friends. Open their world, and their mind will open with it.
The best way to fight fascism and bigotry to teach the fascists and bigots empathy. That the people they hate are just that. People.
If I missed any TWs, please let me know and I’ll add them.
And just know that I no longer hold these hateful beliefs. I acknowledge that the person i was 5 years ago was a hateful, evil person, and I am thankful that my mind was opened.
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cookie-anon-and-co · 11 months
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Character List and Blog Rules
Even though I haven't finished all the refs yet I'm gonna write this out and just edit n add them later. This post will be updated either every time I add a new character, make a change to the rules, or something else that warrants changing. 
That being said! More under cut :o>
Blog Rules
First, some basic rules to make sure we can all have fun and so the weirdos will stay away
1. I want this blog to stay as SFW as possible. While some posts of the past may still have some heavier topics on them, overall, the revamp is very goofy for the most part. Anything that may be heavier I will try and tag accordingly, but you’re always free to tell me to tag something if I forget. Please keep in mind that I have a bit of a hard time telling at what point warnings are appropriate, especially when it comes to things such as blood. To be safe, I’ll be tagging everything best I can
2. This also applies to sexual topics, but I will generally never do anything explicit as I don’t even really like it either. I may make the occasional sex joke when its funny, but I’ll be sure to tag that. Other than that, nothing sexual on this.
3. This blog is an LGBT friendly space. If you have any issues with that, you are free to leave right away. I mean look at these characters, do they LOOK straight to you?/silly (Also proshippers can leave too that has no space in this community)
4. These characters belong to no specific fandom, and I’m generally very universal when it comes to who can interact. Hell, they’re Anons, they can interact with anyone out of principle!
5. Don’t hate just because you’re bored. You can be a bit mean to my characters, I live for angst, but don’t go too crazy that it feels personal. I will generally not respond to obvious hate, so don’t waste your time.
Can’t think very much, I’ll likely update these rules soon in the future
Character List
This is a multi-muse RP blog, hence please make the effort to specify if you talk to someone specific. If there’s no name given, I’ll likely respond with someone random I think the ask would be fit for.
These characters will all receive proper references, and for now I’ll simply use their sprites only. For now I will also only add characters who already appeared in the revamp.
🍪 Cookie Anon (CA)
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“A sweet woman with a passion for all things baking and cooking, and sharing said baking around where she can. For the longest time, she struggled to interact with others, though she has been slowly building up her confidence more over time. She tries to be on friendly terms with anyone, rarely holding grudges. Though she doesn’t have many issues speaking to others as much as she had in the past, she still prefers to sometimes simply leave a gift box of cookies in someones ask box, only adding her initials - C.A.”
🔪 Knife Anon (KA)
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“With blades as sharp as the very determination to bring down anyone in his way, Knife definitely knows his way around weapons and killing. Infamous for finding a hobby in ‘lightly annoying’ others by stabbing them through his inbox (in a way that would not kill them of course), he made a bit of a name and even more hatred for himself, and somehow, even fans. Over his time in the past, he went through quite a lot of change, both emotionally and physically, but one thing always stayed the same - his will to both cheat and bring death. And when he’s not doing that, he would be out either tending to his collection of knives, attempting to learn the violin, and heavily annoying the one Anon he hates the most.... affectionately!”
🤡 Clown Anon (:o)A)
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“Apparently once a normal face-less Anon, this kid saw attached itself right to the art of causing as many shenanigans as she possibly can. Where she got the idea from was something to ponder, but those who knew definitely knew how. Nevertheless, she appears to be mostly harmless and can be pleased by simply giving her fruits to smash with her mace. Somehow, she seems to have taken a liking to Knife, following him around constantly while pursuing her clown shenanigans. Maybe she’ll grow out of it one day.”
🎶 Popstar Anon (PSA) & 🎧 DJ Anon (DJA)
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“A pair of siblings almost never seen apart, both on stage and outside their musical endeavors. While the two often than enough have a little classic sibling arguing going on, they always tend to be quick to make up and have each other both in good and bad times. With Poppy’s shining bright and energetic self, and DJ’s chilled out yet passionate self, these two are sure to brighten other’s days - sometimes without the need to sing even!”
💫 Shooting Star Anon (SSA)
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“The smallest and youngest of the bunch, but somehow most confusing one. Star’s heritage was always one other Anons pondered, as she one day merely fell from the sky and crashed onto the ground. Seemingly not harmed in any way by this, the small child was simply taken in for now, currently in the care of one of the others. She has an odd connection to the night sky and the stars, and often stares out the window at night when she can.”
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willorlackthereof · 2 years
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Funny thing. I'm a cishet person who's frequently questioned and most likely will do so again in my life. I don't think I'm part of the LGBT community, but I'm envious of people who are - which was always so confusing to me. I have the privelege of free expression of my sexuality. I'm safe in popular culture.
But I recently realised why I longed to be welcome in these spaces; You all talk about varied and healthy expression of sexuality. I guess I always wanted to see my own sexuality represented in a healthy manner, rather than following the toxic social trends surrounding straight culture; I wanted to escape the assumption that I was a toxic homophobe by lieu of my sexuality, which is an association I see a lot right next to posts about healthy self-acceptance. Kinda messed with my head.
Just a thought, really; A realization. Nothing more.
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steveyockey · 3 years
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Regarding how Supernatural sees and literally portrays its own fans: there are the cringy loser man (who also turn out to be gay which is of course even worse), the straight fetishizing women and the delusional queer fangirls. What I don't understand: where are the fans that Supernatural actually wants? The 'real' fans, the actual target group, so I suppose cool straight dude bros? They're never shown as fans of the show! Because how Supernatural portrays is, it's actually cringe to like Supernatural at all which is funnily just the show shitting on itself (and also true). Or what do you think?
I mean I think you hit the nail on the head, it’s cringe to like supernatural! specifically it’s cringe to like supernatural with a passion, which is funny because like, kripke’s original pitch mentions buffy, the x-files, star wars, properties with active fan communities who rooted for pairings and continue to write fic. it feels like those fans come with the territory! it’s genre fiction! but of course supernatural also came up at the perfect time for its writers to have a better awareness of their fan communities than most of the stuff that came before them, and, what’s more is they chose to do that. becky, demian, and barnes are all names of forum mods from back in the day. they’re mean-spirited caricatures, but they are also currency! in-text acknowledgment! that’s a powerful drug. how mad can you be that you’re getting made fun of for having no life outside a silly tv show that thinks you’re a loser when you’re now a character in that tv show!
it’s difficult to source who supernatural was technically supposed to be for, there’s no actual quote of kripke naming teenage white boys as his target audience, but I did dig up this bad boy from 2009 that suggests dawn ostroff (the cw’s president at the time) was not happy the property pitched as being for males ages 13-25 was instead attracting women 14-45. I mean, we know the first two seasons of supernatural were “the DVDs most requested by armed forces personnel in iraq and afghanistan,” so clearly on some level the “intended audience” was being reached, but it seems at least the perception on the inside was those poor boys were getting massively outflanked by women. there’s a couple levels to this. first of all, the show premiered on the wb. it’s not to say the network couldn’t attempt to attract new viewers (and this was probably part of the intent of the show), but teen soaps were in its dna. they had no way to STOP the women already tuning in for gilmore girls from keeping the tv on another hour. second, though the show is purportedly “about” topics that read as exclusive to men (cars, rock, violence), there’s an obvious appeal to people attracted to men in its casting choices and the way its shot. like jensen didn’t do that fucking titantic necklace ad because he’s the epitome of masculinity, he did it because he was an androgynous dicaprio-type cutie! sure, his look may have been aspirational to teenage boys wanting that same type of attention, but again, there’s no way to prevent women from getting it directly from the source! and for all the show claims to tell us about the single man tear stoicism of it all, dean cries like a little bitch. because he’s not the action hero, not at first! he’s a scared kid who was forced to grow up. and sam’s fucking dean from gilmore girls! he’s got the bangs and the goofy smile! these aren’t the guys the women watching wanted protecting them, they were guys they wanted to provide comfort. and the camera plays into it! as our good friend sheila o’malley puts it, jensen and jared “are objectified in a way usually reserved for female stars.” you can discuss this in terms of a male objectification fantasy, there’s a wonderful post out there equating the compromising positions sam and dean find themselves in on hunts to a sort of bodice-ripper erotic thrill in being taken control of, but that only provides more space for the comfort fantasy. and this is nothing to say of just being interested in the genre! that the attention of female fans is devalued and assumed to have less complexity than the relationship men have to their beloved works. which is CRAZY because lgbt fans and women in fandom are the entire reason supernatural even made it this far! yes, there are swaths of “regular” people at home who watched supernatural in a non-obsessive way, but they weren’t the reason the show saw a 27 percent increase in its audience over the ninth season. that’s passionate fans, and fan communities encouraging passionate fans of other things to join them. supernatural might not have explicitly wanted these fans, but they are the reason for its success at almost any stage of the show’s airing and, while they may have been creating fanwork outside the bounds of the text, their reasons for coming to the show were not invented. what gets me riled up about “fan fiction” is I enjoy 99% of it, the one thing I can’t stand being the suggestion that what the fans are doing is based on a reading of the show the text itself doesn’t support. the text supports it because YOU put it there! just like you put everything else there that already made the show appeal to people outside the “target” audience! all of which is to say. I don’t know who the fuck supernatural was meant for. I don’t really care except in the moments it illuminates something within the text for me or when this idea is wielded effectively in the “ring ring! eric!” type jabs on here. because the show had the audience it had! it didn’t have any other! it took all that fucking con money and continues to do so, I don’t think there’s any better metric than cold hard cash.
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The level of performance you demand from bi people as a whole, but especially of bi women, is motherfucking insane. I really don't get why you all demand bi women virtue signal their sexuality by "rejecting" men in order to not deem them gross lesbophobes by virtue of existing. "Even" if they prefer men that's not necessarily out of some internalized homo/biphobia. They just like men. That’s kind of part of (most bi people’s) bisexuality. Shocker, I know.
A lot of the behaviors you all accuse bi women of (not taking other women seriously as partners, for example) are behaviors a lot of lesbians in denial exhibit too but in us you see victims of our own pain and misogyny who need help and understanding, while in bi women you see vile irredeemable perpetrators who must be ostracized and punished.
You blame them of their own abuse at the hands of cis straight men in ways that if you remove the "bi" from "bi women" you would recognize as disgusting victim-blaming, WHILE rejecting them & pushing them out of LGBT spaces, which, guess what you fucking geniuses; leaves them to have cis straight men as their only viable option. Funny how that works. You're all "women should stay away from dating bi women" or "bi women fetishize lesbianism by wanting to be with women" but shame bi women for being with men IN THE SAME BREATH. What the fuck do you want them to do? Be celibate for your own biphobic comfort?
I legit saw idiots on Twitter say "normalize lesbians only dating other lesbians" as if that's not what's normalized already. Bi women are already seen as gross sluts that kiss women at parties to turn men on and only seriously date men. What the fuck isn’t normalized about lesbians dating lesbians only?
You think that I, a literal fucking dyke, didn't see women at some point as hot for sex and men as the only viable partners for serious relationships? Would you see me as a disgusting dangerous misogynist for having been there, or as struggling with internalized homophobia? If it’s the later, why don't you extend that same compassion to bi women? Only difference there is that I'm a lesbian and they're bisexual.
Sure, they like men so being with men isn't INHERENTLY torture for them like it is for me, but you don't think that thinking/behaving that way is traumatizing for them too? They love women and are depriving themselves of that experience out of internalized biphobia, misogyny and homophobia. You think that doesn’t fuck them up too? They're hurting too, but you think that, unlike a lesbian who does the same, THEY deserve that suffering.
And no one is telling you to date them or to suffer for them through it just because they're suffering too. What you're being told is to see them as the non-straight women they are who're suffering too and understand the complexity of their situation the same way you would someone like me.
You think too that the “solution” to the horrendous rates of IPV they face with cis straight men is swearing off men. Would you tell straight women to do the same if they don’t want to be abused by male partners? You wouldn't. Because you see straight women as not having "an option" but think bi women do and thus they MUST be asking to be abused. Literal “asking for it” shit. It's all victim blaming + Boys Will Be Boys, but add a "bi" to it and it's progressive somehow.
This points to you seeing women's attraction to men as only ok when it's not "chosen", just a passive reception of misogynistic violence (which, way to take away the agency of women’s sexualities, you dumb bitches), but when they IN THEORY have a "choice" because they also like women, their attraction to men is active instead of passive, and thus they're cock-sucking sluts who’re choosing to endanger themselves. You see women whose desire for men is active, as deserving of whatever results from their involvement with men. You can't be a biphobe without being a misogynist.
You see bisexuality as a fractured amalgam of homosexuality + heterosexuality instead of its own standalone identity, and thus they can and MUST choose one or the other, because their “heterosexual” attraction and their gay attraction are in active competition within them like the fucking two wolves shit. You can’t be a biphobe without being a homophobe.
Bi women's attraction to men is NOT normalized and biphobes are living proof of it. It's not normalized; they're bisexual, not straight. Their attraction to men coexists with, interlinks with and isn't independent of their attraction to women. Bi women ARE shamed and punished for liking men because they don't like men alone, they simultaneously like women and those are inseparable for them.
If it was normalized, it wouldn't be widespread to blame them for the abuse they receive when involved with men, like they should pick a side for their abuse to count or matter. They wouldn't be pushed out of LGBT spaces for being with men, it wouldn't be seen by other LGBT people (even many bi women themselves) as a flaw in their sexuality that makes them a gay-straight chimera. They wouldn't feel ashamed of their attraction to men. They wouldn't be seen with suspicion for liking men if it was normalized.
Them simultaneously liking men is seen as not loving men "correctly" AND as not loving women “correctly”. No LGBT women (including cis bi women and straight trans women) are seen as doing love and sex "correctly".
You can only claim bi women's attraction to men is normalized if you see bisexuality as a Lego combo of straight + gay and thus their attraction to men is separable from their attraction to women. It's not. They're not cherry-picked bits and pieces of heterosexuality and homosexuality. They're 100% bisexual, always, no matter in what way their bisexuality expresses itself. Be it bisexual with no preference, bisexual with a preference for women, or bisexual with a preference for men.
It's not 50-50% straight-gay, 25-75% straight-gay, or 80-20% straight-gay respectively. ALL are 100% bisexual-bisexual. If you can't respect that, you're a homophobe and a misogynist.
And yes, it is HOMOphobic to see bi women with suspicion for liking men. You see "homosexual" attraction as inherently in jeopardy if there's a coexisting "heterosexual" attraction because the gay one will be lesser and you see the "straight" one as a threat that'll take precedent. That’s your gay insecurity from internalized homophobia speaking.
Then too, there's a reason biphobes think bi men are secretly gay, and bi women are secretly straight. You see men as the superior and inevitable choice for both. That's misogyny. If you're a biphobe, you ARE undoubtedly a misogynist and a homophobe, even if you're gay and/or a woman yourself.
Every time people make armchair judgements of bisexual women as man-worshipers all I can think of is my sister who cried rivers of tears to me about how painful and stressing it is to over-perform her attraction to men who're not even her type (she likes gnc men!) just to stay closeted, and when I think of that, I wish so badly I could slap each and every person doing that.
And yeah! You read right, GNC MEN. Bisexuality is "gay enough", "even" in their different-gender attraction, that plenty of bi women prefer gnc men, and plenty of bi men prefer gnc women. In fact, plenty of bi people, including the cis ones, are gnc themselves (with a specific tendency towards androgyny but there's many who're distinctly masculine/feminine at it) and thus much more visible as gay than someone like me; a fucking lesbian, but I'm fem-presenting.
"Bi people can stay closeted while in relationships." So can gay men and lesbians who have beards, who hide our partners, whose partners are trans and closeted, if we're trans and closeted ourselves, or if we’re single and not visibly gnc.
My relationship would be seen as straight by outsiders because my fiancé is a closeted trans lesbian. Unless you’re a transphobe you would NOT call that a fucking privilege. It’s not a fucking privilege that she’s forced to hide herself and hide that the nature of her exclusive love for women is gay. That shit fucking kills her inside. It’s not a privilege that to keep the love of my life safe and myself too I have to pretend that our love is straight when it was so fucking hard for me to just detect, let alone ACCEPT and take pride in that I don’t like men.
All of that keeps us safe, but at great emotional cost. Being closeted is safety for all LGBT people, but it’s not a privilege, it’s PAINFUL. You understand this when it comes to gay men and lesbians, and can feel compassion for us. Why not for bi people? Why are you so angry at bi people? Why do you hold so much contempt for bi people?
I'll tell you why: BECAUSE YOU'RE BIGOTS.
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