#bihet discourse

[self-declared-feminist-icon]

I though bihet meant "bi AND het women". Like a collective term?

#radfem #bihet #bihet discourse #maybe I'm a dumbass #I don't actually pay attention that much #terf #terf safe #radical feminism

[disastergay]

sorry to break it to you guys but annoying people are allowed to be queer. you do not get to revoke somebody's access to the LGBT community just because you don't like their taste in music/clothes, the way they talk, or because you think they're a walking stereotype. hope this helps <3

#queer erasure #lgbt discourse #queerphobia #if I see one more post on my dash about cringey 'bihets' in cuffed jeans drinking oat milk I'm going feral

[bi-sapphics]

do you remember when people where cancelling domo wilson for saying dyke in the bisexual anthem?

yes ! i pointed it out in a tweet on my bitwt acc before i went inactive for personal reasons but i don't think it got any attention.

it's actually what made me ask back in 2020 about the discourse surrounding bi women reclaiming it and i'll always be ashamed that i just... blindly accepted one of my mutual's responses that "it means lack of attraction to men" without doing any of my own research. to be fair, i had some sort of understanding already at the time that i would have gotten dogpiled for arguing either way lmao.

to me, i think this particular situation had a lot of lesbians mad because the song calls them out for (ironically) weaponizing the word against bisexuals the same way they've always done with 'bihet' and 'halfbian' ─ just ask the twitter user with the latter as their username, they get harassed for having reclaimed it after it was used against them all the time!

it also reminds me of how an old tumblr user, pinkfemme, who was notoriously biphobic for a multitude of reasons regarding keeping bi sapphics out of our own history, was completely fine with an anon in her inbox calling bi women "undyked" without even bothering to say anything about it in the answer post. and then has the audacity to deny bi women ever have the slur targeted at them for being bi from cishets of all people? lol sure

anyways back to the main point, i don't actually know how famous domo wilson is so i don't have a clue how much of the hate and cancelling she even saw, but i like to think that if she did see any then she would have just shrugged it off as proving the point. we get accused of hurting others for speaking up about our own experiences with biphobia all the time, so it makes perfect sense to me.

(^^ tell me if i got wilson's pronouns wrong and i will go back and correct my paragraph. /gen)

(and if anyone reading wants to accuse me of claiming lesbians oppress bisexuals or that 'bihet' is a slur... don't. because i'm not. bigotry ≠ oppression)

#chase answers #hounddogmoment #domo wilson #bisexual anthem #d slur #d slur cw #d slur tw #dyke posts #dyke discourse #d slur discourse #bi tag #bi dykes #half dyke #halfbian #biphobia #biphobic lesbians #pinkfemme #bihet

[helpmeimblorboing]

What on God's green Earth is bihetism

Y'know what, just kill me, I don't want to live in a world where that exists

#biphobia #bihetism #twitter is wild #discourse #lgbt #bisexual

[detransdamnation]

Are there trivial convo topics that annoy you or make you want to yeet yourself outta somewhere? Mine are horoscopes, baseball and excretions

Veganism, sports, religion, and philosophy. I hate horoscopes, too.

#also that goldstar bihet whatever the fuck goes on discourse i see occasionally #i feel like that's never discussed offline though lmao #there may be a few others but these are what immediately came to mind #submission #answered #text #my post

[thee-radio-host-is-a-kookaburra]

Btw if you understand that biphobia exists, but think transandrophobia doesn’t, then you’re a hypocrite. All of the arguments against acknowledging transandrophobia exists can and have been used against acknowledging biphobia exists:

“You have ‘male privilege’ so you’re an oppressor” vs “You have ‘straight privilege’ so you’re an oppressor”

“It’s just ‘normal’ transphobia/misogyny” vs “It’s just ‘normal’ homophobia”*

“Transphobes don’t hate you as much, actually.” vs “Homophobes don’t hate you as much, actually.”

*(“normal” is in quotes because “normal” bigotry is not a thing)

Hell, now that I think about it, there’s a fuck ton of overlap between transandrophobia and biphobia:

“You just want to be special.”

“You haven’t experienced actual discrimination.”

“You oppress us real queer people.”

Also, not to bring up slur discourse, but there’s overlap there too! Both bisexuals and transmascs are told constantly that we can’t reclaim certain slurs regardless of if we’ve had it used against us, and yet, we also both have had slurs invented for or used against us by our own community (ie: bihet, cuntboy, etc).

This post was originally just gonna be the first part but I just kept realizing how similar they are. That’s all.

#transandrophobia #biphobia #max squawks #cb slur #queer discourse

[pansyfemme]

sorry i try not to post anything that discourse-y its just that i am the product of a bi4bi m/f relationship and whenever i see some stupid shit about ‘bihets’ or whatever i turn into a knight defending my parents honor

[sistervirtue]

oops yeah please share the story I am in dire need of your webweaving

Sorry this is so late, I was struck immediately and viciously by the wrath of god (and sedatives), so needless to say i was away from my computer

anyway so . the setting is: bnha roleplay server. let me introduce our cast

we have ME, 18, playing Monoma

we have the Bakugou and Shinsou roleplayers, who are a couple also. They are also the server mods. Notably, all three of us are some kinda gay-guy-adjacent-moment

you have Snow, 19, playing Kaminari and Summer, 20-something, playing Kirishima. Snow was ace/agender/aro and summer was identifying as cis bihet

SETTING THE SCENE.

I, unaware of summer identifying unironically as like, biromantic heterosexual, had accidentally started a fight about microlabels in the discourse channel, which ended in her refusing to speak to me further on the topic because she "couldnt control herself from hurting me", which were big words from someone i was not scared of in any way, but slay.

Regardless, the server moved forward.

Kirishima was, in this setting, a gay guy. I'm pretty sure he also had lesbian moms. Summer decided to take the exciting "discovering your identity" approach, despite confiding in us that she really didn't come out until well into adulthood, but one is not limited to live experience in the world of fiction, yeah? however, i think some people should be.

anticipation builds in the ooc chat. monoma makes an off-hand comment about being gay. kirishima asks, "what's that?"

we are aghast. this continues. not only does imaginary gay kirishima not know what gay is, he doesnt know what lgbt stands for. when a comment is made that he could google it, a joke about it all being inappropriate images is dropped. the homophobia is beginning to stink. however i have promised i would not get into more fights (liar) so me and the shinsou and bakugou rpers are just like, ribbing at it a little in the ooc chat. like, "man, i wish i was this sheltered growing up, maybe i wouldnt have been bullied in school" or something to that effect, which summer takes very personally and adamantly defends her right to imagine a world where it is in any way realistic for a sixteen year old who is gay and has gay moms to be this stupid.

but nonetheless, the in character chat goes on. kirishima is still getting hooked on phonics style sexuality. and then kaminari decides to whip out a chart. which chart?

THIS. THIS THING.

needlessly to say, we were baffled. surely no one believes this is how anything works, yes?

the vilification of hypersexuality (medical symptom, often of trauma). the bizarre insistence on carefully organizing every aspect of attraction on a gradient. its such a fascinating little piece of bullfucker, but furthermore,

in a world in which the LGBT acronym is too hard for someone to grasp, im supposed to believe he just clicks with Sexuality Battleship??? I'm a professional faggot and this thing confuses me.

It was such beautiful insight into their minds. A world in which one can skip all the annoying gay people parts of sexuality labels and instead dive right into the microcosms of what was solely relevant to them. it also fantastically predicted the future homophobia i would be subject to, including a line about how "gay people had enough and wouldnt stop stealing ace rep" about the magnus archives, and also the todoroki conversion therapy moment, but this was really just a truly incredible appetizer to the full course of dumb fuckery.

#homophobia #f slur

[a-faggot-with-opinions]

as a bisexual, the fact that they're calling trans men "cuntboys" and calling them privileged reminds me of the bi discourse when it was trendy on here to call bisexuals talking about biphobia "bihets" and claim "bisexuals have privilege over gays/lesbians" and "biphobia isn't real because gays don't have privilege over bisexuals". transandrophobes are literally just biphobes 2.0

Literally. While it's true that gays don't have privilege over bisexuals, it's stupid to then come around and say that bisexuals oppress gays... Same w the whole transfem vs transmasc discourse. We have bigger problems to deal with, like the trans genocide.

#asks #biphobia #transandrophobia

[relax-o-vision]

That bihet poll threw me back into a way more stressful tumblr time. This used to be such a hostile place before I switched to mobile, ignored notes, and switched off anon for years.

The monosexual privilege discourse wave here was not fun!!!!

[adamsvanrhijn]

The bihet oscar van rhijn discourse especially was fun because you had at least one anonymous person saying Oscar was bisexual because he wants to marry a woman and it was biphobic and short-sighted not to see this. and at least another anonymous person saying Oscar was bisexual because he wants to marry a woman and this is borderline abusive of John Adams who is a Real gay man and you're homophobic if you don't see this

[bihetsloveme]

hello and welcome to my blog! this blog is here to share bisexual resources, post essays about bi discourse and just being bisexual, and spread bisexuality! I am disabled, disordered, aroace, gnc, and genderqueer/bi

BYF: this blog…supports mogai identities, is inclusionist, supports trans people, hates radfems, has a deep disdain for transmeds, doesn’t tolerate anti-transmasculinity, pushes down biphobes, supports bi butchefemmes, and especially loves “bihets”

coming soon!

my essays and resources

#bi tag #bisexuality #asexual #aromantic #bisexuals #bihet

[bi-sapphics]

y’know what i just realized and think is weird but worth mentioning?? y’all are so caught up in the fact that bi women and sapphics are completely oriented around and end up with men in the lifelong rundown that you forget women-oriented and women-preferring bi sapphics do exist and are many in numbers, they just formulate in different ways because of all this bimisogyny and stereotyping surrounding statistics and behavior.

like, think about it. all of these “mspec lesbians” are bisexual, because they are mspec, and they call themselves lesbians because sapphicism and dating women is their priority. think about all of these bisexuals who are rightfully against mspec lesbians but call themselves lesbians (in the real, unattracted to men sense) anyway because as far as they know, if they don’t involve themselves with men or deem their OGA unimportant then they might as well be. it follows the logic, if you can stop being attracted to men overtime and/or if it gets so weak that you can just dismiss it as comphet then you can be a lesbian, so why not just take advantage of that grey area and pretend that’s the case even if you’re really bisexual? it’s an effective solution to have the right assumptions made about you and your dating choices with the way things are between our communities right now. if you don’t have to be associated with those disgusting bihets because you don’t even relate to them, then why should you?

i’m not saying i support that kind of lying, because i don’t, even though i don’t even believe it comes from a malicious place. but maybe think about what causes this epidemic of “fake lesbians” thinking they belong better in the lesbian community than their own out of sheer ignorance combined with a desperate need to find like-minded people. it makes logical sense, even if it’s wrong in the long run. if anything, it might not even be lying, a lot of the time these sapphics just genuinely believe their situation is called comphet when it isn’t in their individual case because it’s understood that that is a real, valid, and accepted experience. that’s what i did for a whole year, until i realized my personal attraction just wasn’t comphet.

it’s important to hold lesbophobes accountable when they’re actually hurting lesbians, but i also think there are some underlying issues causing this lesbophobia that need to be addressed for the better sake of everyone involved. it would help both of us much more to assume the best of each other and simply educate than to harass and dogpile based off of assumptions. i understand the anger because it’s rightful justice but you shouldn’t be taking it out on individuals who aren’t really at fault because that will just hurt and confuse them more rather than actually solve anything. that’s all.

#chase.txt #lesbian discourse #mspec lesbians #bi lesbians #anti mspec lesbians #anti bi lesbians #lesbophobia #biphobia #bimisogyny #bi sapphic #bi women #bi wlw #bi preferences #preference for women #comphet #compulsory heterosexuality #bi satistics #bi stereotypes #les/bi dynamic #bihet

[homophyte]

it is interesting to me that ive seen lately (n yknow this is subjective and likely not any real social force just what ive seen) many queer people simultaneously talking about taking back and embodying unpalatable and ‘unmarketable’ queerness (the recent return to the terms faggot and transsexual come to mind) which i think is pretty evidently shaped by the conservative moment were in of demonizing queer ppl and especially gnc and trans people as predators--it reads as a return to queer isolationism in the face of external hostility, imo--while at the same time ive seen a lot of rallying around the “original” 6 stripe rainbow flag as opposed to any of the purportedly ‘factional’ flags of different queer identities, with the assumption being different identity flags divide us while the rainbow flag encompasses everyone and its kinda fascinating to me bc the rainbow flag is probably the single most marketable and palatable and uncontroversial symbols of queerness which has been seamlessly uptaken by those who wish to sell it back to us as gets pointed out every pride month with all the cringey pride merch.... i dunno you could maybe take that as a point of hypocrisy and claim the queer community is itself in a conservative moment rn where its returning to a sense of history and historical continuity (perhaps even out of that sense of external threat) or even that the queer community has for some time been in a conservative moment given the like, decade of identity discourse and lashing out at any people deemed to not have a sufficiently established history or however we should categorize the bihets/ace discourse/transtrender-tucute discourse/pan discourse/bi lesbians discourse (because lets be frank its essentially all the same discourse just keeping up its momentum by leapfroging from one target to the next) which i think is, like, SOMEWHAT true but not entirely? its more interesting to me, in any case, as an expression of a conflict the queer community is facing given that current state of affairs RE antitransness and that very recent history. like, the simultaneous need to retreat to a safe sense of community which is welcoming to the very things the outer world is demonizing ie mutable gender, complex or contradictory experiences of gender, gender expression which is hostile to the cis binary, but also the ways in which it has to grapple with those discourses which have largely defined the community infighting for again the past decade. its queer people begging the question ‘how can we make the queer community welcoming to the girlfags and genderfucks and tboys who are being threatened when we have spent so much time making the queer community a hostile place for anyone with a non-conventional or not easily (or even just palatably) sortable sense of queer identity’. and the answer it seems to be grappling with at the moment is like, welcoming all that diversity of experience but being absolutely averse to naming it. yes we love all the fuckery with gender and sexuality never be marketable but like, ew, why are you calling yourself [insert microlabel here]. you can be genderweird but you cant call yourself genderweird. you can only exist as queer in the broadest possible way (the all-inclusive gay pride flag!) but if you try to name the specifics or use those identity labels weve been fighting over for years youre doing it wrong (the progress pride flag is now ugly and cringey and ‘too much’). i think theres something also to the way (at least on this site) transmisogynistic discourses have really taken hold as legitimate (though yknow i wont downplay how much a problem transmisogyny has like. always been in queer spaces no matter what) in the name of protecting n defending trans people. like its just regurgitated transmisogyny but its being mobilized supposedly in the service of helping trans people. idk its definitely getting a little late for me to string this together fully coherently but theres a throughline there, in the ways certain ideas are being consolidated and reified as ‘yes were more progressive now!’ when i think theres definitely something to question there in terms of like...are we? are we actually? are we doing better by the people were trying to help or are we setting strict standards and forcing ppl to adhere to them again?

#myposts #this is long and honestly probably Nothing #i dont even really have a way of proving its the same group of people saying both things except fro anecdotally seeing it #and even thats not proof either is a real social force with like power. i could be entirely wrong on every count here #but i do think theres something to the idea that like #as ive seen said #yknow 'ace discourse never ended you all just accepted ace people didnt deserve support and then moved on w those views internalized' #i think thats more broadly true for like. all those discourses i mentioned. and for the transmisogyny i alluded to #but honestly i dont even want to name the specific phenomenon im talking abt there bc those people. scare me. #but yknow ill say it ive felt way more pressure lately to not call myself pan than i did at the height of pan discourse #before it became cringe to care about it and instead of actively shitting on pan ppl we moved on to passively doing it #ive largely started just. calling myself bi to avoid the arguement. which i predicted i would have to do years ago #and now look at me doing it! not really a fluke that its happening now. i think #which isnt to say were moving 'backwards' per se but that these ideas are not now and never have been really challenged #so weve just internalized their logics--reactionary logics--and its having an interesting effect now that we need a progressive community #for our safety. #now we cant say anything about it because to bring it up is jeopardizing everything weve built and the people were keeping safe! #cause we dont count as people deserving of safety were disruptors who only belong when we dont make noise. idk. or thats how i feel #again i dont really know if this is true at all im more just...thinking through it i think #basically like what im seeing--i think--comes from simultaneously that need to be unmarketable in the face of hostility #coming into conflict with a decade of momentum to make queers solely marketable. and i think thats producing some interesting--but sucky #--discourses in the current moment #last disclaimer that i might and am likely totally wrong! okay lauren out. post send *nervous sweating*

[menalez]

What’s the discourse around lesbians using strap ons??? I just saw an ask someone sent you but it’s from like 2 weeks ago so I’ve got no context. I’m a 28 year old radfem lesbian and I have never encountered serious strap on discourse lol I’m so curious

there’s normal people who say it’s a sex toy and anyone can use it

and then there’s people who argue if a lesbian likes this sex toy then she’s definitely a ~bihet~

#i think if ur very obsessed with straps then ur weird but also i don’t think it necessarily says anything about ur sexuality

[a-polite-melody]

Something that’s made me laugh, in a bit of a dark sense, during “discourse” times (read: trying to remove people from the LGBTQ+ community) is the confusion between the phrases “a part of” and “apart of”.

It’s kinda understandable, because “a part” and “apart” sound the same, but do not mean the same thing.

As such, you’d get people saying things like “bihets/acehets/discoursed-identity-du-jour aren’t apart of the LGBT community.”

Which is actually correct! They aren’t “apart of” the community, they are “a part of” the community!

Saying something is “apart of” something else means that it is separate from that something else.