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zutarasbuff · 8 months
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Reasons why do I think Zuko is a walking green flag (according to what I have noticed within the show):
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1. Always feels guilty after doing something that contradicts his principles.
2. Listens to his uncle despite the differences and always turns to him whenever the time calls.
3. Never ever harms the children unlike many of other fire nation soldiers and generals.
4. Lets Uncle Iroh play Pai Sho.
5. Keeps his trauma inside his heart, and even when gets provoked is extremely worried about troubling others with his inner conflicts.
6. Is a fine listener.
7. Lets Appa free and earns Appa’s trust.
8. Doesn’t feel ashamed in working at a tea shop despite being the heir to the fire nation’s throne.
9. Cares for Azula despite her wrongdoings.
10. Is ready to apologize for his faults.
11. Never forgets his duty toward Mai despite his suffering.
12. Is even ready to breakup with Mai to save her.
13. Is an extremely loyal and encouraging friend.
14. Doesn’t hesitate a bit to stand with the right, even if it means challenging his own father or sister.
15. Loves Uncle Iroh so much.
16. Never forgets his mother even after years.
17. Makes sure that the fire nation finds a new way of fuelling their bending other than anger.
18. Preserves the lineage of the dragons and honours them.
19. Hard outside, kind inside.
20. Puts himself at a risk by using fire bending to light up the fountain in Ba Sing Se in the days of wartime asylum just to make Jin happy.
21. Has a very empathetic nature and votes against fire nation waging a war on others in the council of the firelord himself.
22. Is determined to accomplish his goal whether it’s catching the avatar or saving the world.
23. Never tolerates bullying.
24. Is a fine swordsman.
25. Is hot with a hotter voice (thank you Dante Bosco for being the perfect Zuko) and a freaking cute smile.
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elcias-diary · 1 year
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What if Ty Lee has Synesthesia (including, but not limited to, experiencing sounds as colors or shapes) and the auras she sees are vibrations in the air because she's an almost completely repressed airbender who's bending only comes through in her insane agility/ability to leap insane distances unharmed AND seeing vibrations in the air.... As Colors...
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zukkaart · 11 months
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Stick Season by Noah Kahan is so Zuko coded don’t @ me just read this
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Zuko just longing for Azula to be his little sister again instead of the “monster” that their father trained her to be- realizing at the end of their Agni Kai that that broken little girl is still there
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His mom leaving and (spoilers!!!) starting a whole new family while he was left to deal with the brunt of his fathers abuse, constantly striving and falling short of his unachievable goals
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I feel like this one is pretty self explanatory
I’m not saying he joined the gaang to make up for any inherent darkness inside him, but we’d be kidding ourselves if we didn’t acknowledge that Zuko (especially after becoming fire lord) probably has a deep seated fear of becoming his father in one way or another
Thank you for coming to my TED talk
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wileycap · 8 months
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Okay, so I had a thought (and I'm about 300% sure I'm not the first one, but I was too lazy to check, I also don't know if canon has adressed this already):
When Wan Shi Tong was dragging the library into the Sprit World, how was Toph able to hold it?
Because Toph learned from the badgermoles.
Let's back up a little. The Ocean and The Moon are explicitly spirits. Fang, Roku's dragon, is able to traverse the Spirit World (and on the Solstice, even the physical world) freely, even though Roku isn't. Appa is spiritually connected to Aang and able to perceive it (with help) and follow the connection to Ba Sing Se.
I think all of the original benders are either spirits, or animals that crossed over from the Spirit World. And all of the bending styles we've seen have distanced themselves from the original sources of bending - even Airbending, because Aang and the historical benders don't fly freely, like Appa. Firebending is fueled by rage, that's explicitly stated, I don't have anything good for Waterbending so the source is firmly trust me bro, and in Earthbending, Toph's moves are based on a different martial arts style (Zhujia/Chugar family kung fu rather than the Hung Gar style used by other earthbenders*) than the other earthbenders we see - there is explicitly something different about learning from the original source. I also think all of the original benders, when crossing over, used their bending to anchor themselves into the physical world. For dragons, fire was life and the sun, for Tui and La, their eternal dance was their life and power, etc.
That's a long paragraph to say that no other earthbender could have held up the library. Toph learned her bending from the badgermoles, not as a fighting style, but as a way of interacting with the environment - the same way they do. I don't think she's necessarily aware of it, but I think that, because badgermoles are spirits that crossed over a long time ago, as Toph learned, she also unconsciously learned a style of bending that is much more spiritual than human-taught bending.
This also weaves nicely into the show's themes of destiny. Aang was destined to find Toph (he saw her in a vision, after all), and Toph was destined to teach Aang. But not only that, Toph was the only person who could have held up the library. She wasn't just holding up a big rock. She anchored it into our world.
And I think that's beautiful.
*BUT NOT WING CHUN THO THAT INFORMATION WAS LITERALLY ONE GOOGLE SEARCH AWAY ALL THIS TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS WING CHUN I SWEAR I HEARD IT SOMEWHERE AND INCORPORATED IT INTO MY BELIEF SYSTEM FOREVER thank you dear person in the tags i don't know if it's polite to @ you considering it was in the tags but thank you srs
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eternally-sunkissed · 2 months
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Hear me out guys...
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...okay time to go on why this makes sense to me. Here's what I can think of while doing the dishes. (not spoiler free!!!) Comparison between Zuko and Manolo
Zuko and Manolo break the toxic cycle of their family (Zuko not being an assh*le and Manolo not killing a bull)
Zuko and Manolo lost their mom and have a strict dad who raised them in an environment they eventually wanted to leave from (Zuko's mom is alive yes but he and everyone else believed she was gone for years)
Their moms helped them shape into the man they are today
Both willing to sacrifice their life for the one/people they care for (Zuko taking the lightning shot and Manolo trapping himself with Chakal with the giant bell) Now for Katara and Maria
Strong sense of justice even at a young age
Raised by a single dad who they had a somewhat strained relationship at the beginning of the story
Would not hesitate to throw a punch (literally and figuratively) when needed
Voice of inspiration (Katara pushing the team to get better and Maria inspiring the townsfolk to fight with her)
Both will not hesitate to do anything to help their people/people in need
And remember Zuko's quote? "You rise with the moon, I rise with the sun"
Well...Maria and Manolo are canonically reincarnations of their past lives, Maya and Zatz (from Maya and the Three, made by the same creator :DD)
Spoilers for Maya and the Three beyond!!!
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And coincidentally enough, when Maya and Zatz die, they become the world's sun and moon...possibly the same sun and moon in The Book of Life timeline. Zatz and Katara rise with the moon, Maya and Zuko rise with the sun.
Another similar thing both pairs had is that they were both, in a way, royalty or rather from a very important family.
Zatz, like Zuko, sacrificed himself to help/aid in the battle/fight, leaving both Maya and Katara to finish off the enemy one way or another.
That's all I can think of for the meantime but yeah your honor that's all I got.
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someponyholdme · 7 hours
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is this a hot take? the ATLA fandom hyper focuses on zuko and his potential love interests so much that it discredits his character development, his journey of realizing his destiny, his struggles with his mental health and his struggles with non romantic relationships.
i understand he's a fan favorite, and as someone who was a little kid when the show came out i had such a crush on him. i love zuko as much as the next gal but i don't see him for this edgy emo boy with pretty hair and a sick scar appeal. he's an extremely traumatized and mentally unwell child. he's a physically and emotionally wounded person who's made a lot of mistakes while trying to do the right thing, and unlearning everything he's ever known so he can change.
resorting zuko to just being this heartthrob is really dehumanizing. the relationships that are so much more important than any ship are his relationships with his family, his relationship with aang and his relationship with himself. he is farrr too romanticized and glorified by the fandom. the favoritism towards him actually tarnishes all of his progress rather than highlighting it.
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azulas-daddy-kink · 1 year
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In no particular order, here are my least favorite AtLA/LoK half-baked fan theories:
- The old lady who heals Korra after she washes up on the beach is actually Azula (she looks nothing like her wtf?).
- Sokka is Suyin’s father... no. Just no.
- P’Li / Ming Hua is Azula’s daughter.
- Asami is Azula’s granddaughter.
- Lin Beifong must be a lesbian (you know, because she can’t just be single and childless, there has to be a “reason” for it).
- Ty Lee being part Air Nomad.
- Autistic Zuko / Azula. 
- “Azula has [insert heavily stigmatized mental disorder here] because I read a Web MD article about it.”
-  Ozai had Lu Ten killed.
- 8 year old Azula murdered Kya... somehow. (Yes, this is a real take).
- Azulon actually told Ozai to kill Azula, not Zuko.
- Azula “slept her way to the top”.
- Iroh is Azula / Zuko ’s biological father, not Ozai.
- Azula knew Aang was alive from the very beginning and purposely took Zuko home with her so that she could set him up to be the fall guy (in which case, why did the conversations in her bedroom and by the turtleduck pond even happen???).
I’m sure there’s more but these all came to mind lol
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kagansune · 3 months
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Atla fan theory!!!
My friend texted me earlier and said. "We see water benders mqje and melt ice. But. We never see them boil water"
And this got us both thinking. Here is theory!
Water benders do not have the ability to change the tempature of water. But thry have the ability to change the density of water particles. So that they can make it gas. Liquid or solid.
This is enforced by the fact that aside from in cold climates. If a water bender making ice looses concencentration the water reverts to its original form.
Similarly. They can make water into fog. But the tempatutr of the fog does not appear to be hotter. And when someone is incased in bent ice they are never stated to be cold. Simply restrained.
Anyway. Water benders have no temp control. Thats only for the fire bois.
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theriseoffandom · 7 months
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Something I noticed about Iroh's codename
So we all know that Zuko gives his uncle the name "Mushi" in season two to blend in with the earth kingdom. When I looked it up, I discovered that mushi means "insect" and that didn't seem very flattering. So I studied the kanji. This is the character for Mushi:
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And something about this looked really familiar. And I realized, that the symbol for the red dragon tile in Mahjong looks suspiciously like the top half of Mushi.
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So the kanji for Mushi - to me - looks like a swipe with a kickstand added on to the Red Dragon symbol. Uncle Iroh's title is the Dragon of the West. So it makes sense to me that the name Mushi was chosen because it carried the red dragon symbol as part of its character.
And, correct me if I'm wrong because I have only read about how Kanji work. But when you have a group of kanji that are built up together, you can also translate the kanji to their literal meanings. Like how the kanji for "noisy" is three "women" kanji in a triangle. So that kanji can mean noisy or three women.
So in this case, in ATLA, I think that Mushi can literally translate to "hidden red dragon" because of how the red dragon is hiding in Mushi's kanji.
That's so cool, if I'm even close to right.
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eponastory · 28 days
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Do you think bending is genetic influenced or spiritually influenced or both? Bc if it's genetic or genetic influenced the implications of four segregated nation are...strange and eugenic kinda of impossible too but i have a very basic grasp on genetics so i don't know
Honestly, I've been playing around with the idea of it being spiritual and genetic.
We know that the Air Nomads were wiped out... but at the same time, there were some that survived. This is covered in the comics with how traps were set for survivors after the genocide. Now, the live action covers this differently, with an even bringing all the Air Nomads to one place. But after Harmonic Convergence in LoK, airbenders appear.
I'm not a fan of LoK... so I'm kinda working on my own alternate timeline with post-war stuff.
But I also have this thought that even if Aang was the last and he somehow ended up dying trying to defeat Ozai, the cycle would continue, and the spiritual aspect comes into play. That because there are no more airbenders that anyone with an airbending ancestor could potentially be an airbender. The system (cycle) corrects itself in order to stay in balance.
Harmonic convergence brought airbending back in LoK probably because there was an imbalance between the elements. So essentially it corrected itself.
But as far as bending being strictly genetic, I don't think it's really that simple because Aang and Katara in Canon had three children. Two were benders. And I know a great deal about genetics thanks to breeding horses and color genes with them. It's the same thing with some genetic diseases as well.
I bred paint horses. My stallion carries a gene that allows all of his babies to be the same pattern he is, even with non paint moms (mares). We call this homozygous where there is two copies of the gene. Heterozygous is when there is one copy and there is a 50%-25% chance of the gene being passed on. To get two copies, both parents have to have the same gene (or something similar) and pass it on. Two copies will always pass on at least one.
I see bending working like that. There is a small possibility of an underexpressed or recessive. Which is where you get your non benders in a family of benders, if that makes any sense.
Hope this helps!
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chlothequeen · 1 year
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Y’all, Summer is not a Grimm. And if she were, it would be a recent development, and frankly, an uninteresting one, as we’d be dealing with a hero tragically turned monster instead of a character with flaws. I feel like too many people take Ruby theorizing that Summer is a Grimm at face value, ignoring that she doesn’t know the hound was an experiment, long after Summer’s disappearance. Whatever happened to Summer isn’t going to be as simple as death, or being Grimm, it’s going to be something that causes further conflict, especially for Ruby and Yang.
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zutarasbuff · 8 months
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Zutara & their eternal connection
Well, I was contemplating that fire benders get their strength right from the sun. Their bending gets powered up every day with the rising sun. On the contrary, water benders seek strength from the moon and rise with the moon. Now come to the logical side. As we all know the moon doesn’t have its light, it’s the sun being the bestower of light which is reflected by the moon. Yes, you are slowly getting there. It’s told in the show that the spirit of the moon influences the bending power of the water benders. When the full moon shines with its full vigor (of course with the light of the sun), it blesses the water benders with extreme strength.
That’s exactly what Zuko said to Katara at one of their encounters, “I rise with the sun and you rise with the moon.” In other words, this statement itself explains how Katara is incomplete without the rising of the sun (Zuko). It’s because it’s the warmth of the sun and its light that makes Katara what she is. Take the sun and moon as the metaphors for Zuko and Katara and you will see what am I talking about. Just as moon is dependent on the sun for unleashing it’s real charisma, in the same manner, without Zuko’s aid, Katara can’t achieve her full potential. This is what we find even within the series when both as a team always overcome difficulties especially it’s the lightning part when we find the metaphor accomplishing its apex point. The sun saves the moon from getting into the darkness and the spirit of the moon then revived Zuko through Katara.
IT’S A SHAME HOW THE MAKERS IGNORED THIS CANON DELIBERATELY THAT HAD TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
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themanedwolf · 1 year
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I just saw a performance by Shen Yun and not only was it beautiful, it made my little fan theorist heart freak out over my new headcannon that Zuko is not JUST a theater nerd. He does not just read the scrolls and memorize monologues, oh no. This boy actually practices the performances, including the dance numbers. Some of the moves are similar enough to firebending katas that he gets away with practicing them more openly. (Those fancy breakdancing-looking moves he does in the show? Strikingly similar to some of the moves I saw the dance company do.) In his favorite play, Love Amongst the Dragons, the Dark Water Spirit has some fancy flips and tumbles that he had to watch Ty Lee practicing to get them down right. He still doesn't feel confident in them so he rarely uses them, even when sneaking around as the Blue Spirit.
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wileycap · 7 months
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ATLA Headcanon (this is very much spoilers and I'm pretty sure this isn't a super original thought):
Ozai was always thought of as kind of a useless coward in the Fire Nation, before he grabbed power. He was the spare prince next to the Dragon of the West, and this motivates him in everything that he does.
It makes a lot of sense and provides some depth of character to him - which, let me be clear, I don't think he needs: within the story, he works perfectly fine as just a cruel, narcissistic monster. Any detour into his motivations would have distracted from the overall story.
But think about it. Why does he hate Zuko so much? Because Zuko reminds him of his own (perceived) failures, as the disappointing son, and as a narcissist, he can not bear thinking about anything that makes him less than perfect. He wants to get rid of Zuko because he sees himself in Zuko, and this is only compounded by Zuko and Azula's dynamic resembling the dynamic between him and Iroh. Of course, in this case, it's the younger sibling that is the favoured, more capable child. Ozai wants to see himself in Azula, but actually sees himself in Zuko.
Now, I know that the more overt explanation is that he cares about his legacy, and wants Azula to succeed him because she's the stronger heir, but I don't think that matters to Ozai that much. It certainly matters a little bit, because the greater glory of his heir reflects well on him, and obviously he wants that. But I don't think Ozai is actually all that concerned with what happens after he dies. To that, Zhao, whom Ozai promotes and clearly favours to some degree, expresses open disdain at Iroh's spirituality - it's reasonable to think that this sort of attitude thrives under Ozai, or it might just be the Fire Nation in general.
I think Ozai operates under a belief that the world will end with him, and doesn't believe in an afterlife. I don't necessarily mean that he is actually cognisant of this belief - I mean that he is only concerned with himself, so to him, once he stops existing, everything of value will have left the world. If he'd still been in power once he was at the age where death becomes a real concern instead of an abstract possibility, he probably would have sought some form of immortality.
He is very quick to cast Azula aside with a meaningless title, after all. He doesn't value Azula, he just hates the reminder that is Zuko. Zuko also resembles him physically - and to that point, his method of punishing Zuko before getting rid of him is to disfigure him. To further distance himself from Zuko.
In Zuko Alone, Azula refers to Iroh as "his royal tea-loving kookiness" - and we have to remember that Azula probably parrots Ozai's words. Why is this significant? Because at the time, Iroh has just broken through the Outer Wall of Ba Sing Se, a tremendous military accomplishment. He's living up to the Fire Nation's greatest values of military power and glory in battle. And still Ozai disparages him to Azula.
Because Ozai is a wounded narcissist who's always been jealous of his brother. I'm intentionally paraphrasing Zuko's words from The Avatar State here, because it's very likely that those words are also originally Ozai's. An attempt to drive a wedge between his successful older brother and his son.
Ozai's plan to literally burn down the Earth Kingdom is, aside from being monstrous, a terrible strategic decision. What, does the think that the ashes are going to pay him taxes? What's the end goal? At that point, the Fire Nation has effectively won the war. Sure, they are likely still facing resistance, and the Earth Kingdom might be able to rally in the future and challenge them for hegemony. But, considering other conquering military states in our history, a large chunk of their economy probably relies on war. On levying taxes on subjugated territories in order to prop up the economy of the homeland. So, he's intentionally handicapping his own nation by literally burning down a massive source of income.
In the context of erasing his own profound narcissistic injury, however, that makes perfect sense. Who's going to remember Iroh's glorious victories in the Earth Kingdom when there is no Earth Kingdom?
So, there you have it. Ozai is the disappointing child in the shadow of his heroic older brother, the cowardly prince who never went to war in a nation that idolizes war and war heroics above all else, and he spends the rest of his life covering that wound up with blood and fire.
And I do think it's a very beautiful sort of karma that he ends up without his firebending after a short reign and without any meaningful triumphs or accomplishments to his name. Because fuck that guy.
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tbartss · 1 year
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sorry to voltron post in this day and age but im feeling so nostalgic for what the voltron fandom used to be. like it was so so so awful but it was also the best thing I ever experienced on the internet
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bafflement · 1 year
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Oh, actually... I wonder...
Nobody actually knows where Ozpin came from originally, or his semblance beyond that it probably has something to do with time.
The last Ozma was the last king of Vale, so there would have been people IN the Vale looking out for the next Ozcarnation, probably in all four [or five] kingdoms. We know Oz was headmaster of Beacon. But we don't know if he was meant to be, and sometimes coloring can tell its own story.
What if he's from Atlas? Worse... we know he was painfully young when he died, but what if the silver hair actually IS genetic? Because his height would tend to indicate Atlas, or at least Mantle as a possible origin point.
Which other family in Atlas is noted for having silver hair, I wonder? Go on, I'll wait...
And with Ice Queen focusing on Weiss and the Schnee's, I do wonder if that might be explored. There's no statute of limitations on a kidnapping after all, and a disappeared uncle would probably explain Winter's and Weiss' actions...
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