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madmanwonder · 3 months
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Crossover Crack Ship: Arc Chaldea/Chaldean Knight/JauGud
Jaune Arc:
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Gudako/Fem!Ritsuka Fujimaru:
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lanymme · 10 months
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Hey. This is my possibly favorite Noble Phantasm line in FGO.
But you can’t appreciate it if you don’t get the Buddhist reference, so come over here and let’s learn some Buddhism with the sexy nun:
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What, you might ask, is an abhisecana (or abhisheka) rite?
As I understand it, it’s an initiation rite for a practitioner who is advancing in their study of the Dharma. In some Buddhist schools, including Shingon—the school from which Tachikawa-ryu, Kiara’s school, branches off (which we don’t know much about, because it’s long-dead IRL and was subject to political book burnings, but that’s another story—this rite involves a student being assigned to a bodhisattva, whose teachings and/or qualities they will study to guide their development and give them direction.
Rather than let a student choose a bodhisattva based on their preconceptions at the time of the ritual, they are blindfolded and cast a flower onto a mandala—like the womb realm mandala, shown below—and whoever it lands on, that’s who they go with.
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But Kiara is, as always, encouraging living beings to give up their heavenly aspirations—to cast their flower instead on the mandala of the realm of desire. Let it fall where it may—chase whatever vice or illusion your whims take you to.
But make no mistake.
However it falls, there’s only one bodhisattva that will watch over you as you dance in the palm of her hand.
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You're so right, Goredolf IS the most fuckable man in Chaldea. Everyone else runs the gamut of "can get it" to "should absolutely not get it" but Goredolf CAN GET IT.
Any poll about ideal partners, sexually or otherwise, that don’t end with goredolf in the top 4 are inherent bull bc off the top of my head we know this guys is
-capable of introspection and growth (rare in a game that likes to flanderize)
-cooks and cooks very well
-cares about the people around him especially those he’s close to
-both dad AND mom coded
-can literally reverse food spoilage
-had implied relations with two separate beasts and lived
- really good at driving
-has a host of varied skills: outdoorsy, well read, well traveled, polyglot, decent social abilites
-has actual sense of when things are dangerous and does try to keep others safe
-gof punch
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-charlotte appeared to be trapped underwater in one scene this event and immediately when everyone else was like ‘uh oh’ he started working on trying to break the rock apart. Like the actual servants in the room did less than he did I’m just saying I would rather have him babysit my kids than literally any servant
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randomstranger27 · 11 months
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I think I’m starting to understand why everyone wants to wife him.
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bbnibini · 9 months
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FINALLY IT'S BEEN 5 LONG YEARS IM GONNA OVERWORK YOU TO DEATH 😤😤😤😤
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EDIT: I forgot I'm poor 😭 ( I don't even have fous to feed him)
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300iqprower · 1 year
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how goes the progress on your version of LB7 ?
how many plot twists is too many because uhhhhh i'm at like at least 6
at this point the outline is less a line than it is a
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what if i just don’t play arc 2
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holdharmonysacred · 2 years
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I am also kinda tired of literally every F/GO event these days causing discourse of the “the plot didn’t go where I wanted it to” variety, especially when it completely jumps the gun like with how everybody was talking about the Requiem event. I was genuinely so close to just screaming at everyone on here “You all know Marie Alter exists!!!!!! You all should remember that she exists!!!!! You’ve all long been spoiled on one of the big twists of the event because you were all there when JP ran it back in 2020!!!!! You should be able to use your brains to reverse-engineer the plot from there and realize there’s gotta be something up with the goddamn werewolf game!!!!!!!!” and only held my tongue to avoid spoiling people on literal day 1. I absolutely genuinely beg of you all, for the love of god please give the game a chance and try to actually hear the story out before complaining, you have to meet the game where it’s at if you want to give the good criticism. Even if you still come out disagreeing and disliking whatever the game’s story is doing that day, it’ll allow you to properly argue your complaints with nuance and maybe even offer solutions that aren’t “The story should do what I want it to because I say so”.
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kaiiihannn · 1 year
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Mom™ of Chaldea: A story in 3 arcs by @Forzen_fgo
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rocknroll7575 · 2 months
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PJAU! Jaune meets Heoric Spirit Jaune (Rusted Arc):
PJ!Jaune: So wait you're tell me we're the Rusted knight?
Rusted Arc: Yep...and turns out due to my identity not being revealed...along with my personal circumstance the identity of the rusted knight was never revealed.
PJ!Jaune: Huh....
Rusted Arc: to be fair...things in Chaldea are weird...King Arthur and Nero Claudius are women in that world. Plus I met that world's version of Artemis and Apollo...who's a sheep for some reason.
PJ!Jaune: Yikes man sounds pretty weird!
Rusted Arc: *Nods* Yeah, but what did you go through?
PJ!Jaune: *Reliving his fight with Atlas, death of certain characters, and his 5 years of capture by the Romans* Trust me... you don't wanna know
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versegm · 8 months
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The thing about Guda in the lostbelt arc is that there is no one left who knows how Guda used to be. Roman is gone. Da Vinci is gone. So who's left?
There's Mash. But Mash had her own issues to deal with during all Observer of Timeless Temple, so she might have noticed all that much that Guda has changed. There's the Chaldea Staff. But considering [JP SPOILERS] I think I can safely say that Guda is not really close to them. There's Sherlock. But while Sherlock is a brilliant detective, he has the emotional awareness of a brick. I do not believe this is a thing he paid attention to.
There's the fucking computer. Mnemosyne COULD notice how much Guda has changed, and DID attempt to help. And Guda promptly responded to that attempt by going "Don't you dare fix me, I shall get worse all on my own" and now the computer is done too.
And there's really no one else left, is there? Goredolf and Kadoc can attest that they are not acting like a normal person now, but they don't know who they used to be. They don't know what they used to be. No one knows how far Guda has gone. And so no one can tell how badly shit's going.
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thessaliah · 11 months
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Everytime I see a “Crypters wouldn’t have made it past the Singularities!” I want to remind those people the only reason Guda does is because of Mash and Roman. 
Arcade showed us that multiple “Chaldeas” (which we don’t know where they come from) fall to Draco’s Testament World fake Singularities before she even manifested as a Beast (Draco is still a larva until Babylon chapter of Arcade, and she was probably not even that before Arcade story). If we take Merlin’s word in Camelot, those Chaldeas lack Romani Archaman (which Merlin refers the “true” Chaldea always has Roman), so even with Mash, Guda fails and dies. Kirschtaria, when he acknowledged Guda as better Master, does it calling them the “Master the Doctor raised/trained” rather than the “Master who beat Singularities and rolled dozens of waifus/husbandos.” Even after Roman died, he remains the most important foundation for Guda’s entire character arc and strength. Mirror of Lost Will and the Aphrodite’s song are highly revealing about this. Without Romani, Guda would have collapsed mentally and perish there. 
It’s highly telling how Arcade ‘Chaldea’ only could get it far by receiving the benefit of mobage Chaldea’s previous bonding with Servants except for like 3 of them (even Draco and Proto Merlin are interested on Chaldea because of mobage one). And they didn’t take an active part in besting Sodom Beast, unlike Mash’s and Guda’s confrontation with Goetia (and emotional taming of Fou), but required Arthur who leaped from another world with ferry Noah to show up and call it a day. Guda and Mash by themselves don’t seem like a winning team, IMO. That’s why the FGO premise promotion included meeting of ‘fate’ with three characters, not two.
Roman himself was influenced by their meeting as well, nobody denied that, but trying to take Guda in a vacuum is a narrative mistake. 
This is all to demonstrate that of course, Team A members on their own, without their fateful person that pushes them to reach their potential as Master would fail (unless those are Kirsch or Daybit who are cheat characters), but so would have Guda without theirs. That’s why Kadoc has a chance of victory with Lostbelt Anastasia too.
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kaibutsushidousha · 9 months
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What are your thoughts on Papermoon? Did it change your expectations for the Ordeal Call arc?
I really liked most of PAPERMOON's cast. My unpopular opinion is that Minase can be a garbage writer but he's a great character creator. His characters are always built around one solid core and can feel one-note due to how they never shift too far from this core element, but the element is always chosen with one impactful scene or interaction in mind, and these goal scenes generally hit more often than they miss. Maybe. At least in PAPERMOON, they hit with Lainur, Bhima/Cerejeira, Medusa, Kama, and Duryodhana.
Another thing that Minase always knows how to do brilliantly, better than Nasu even, is to re-deliver the most memorable quotes of past Type-Moon content in new contexts. Bazett's growth marked by well-timed use of Angra quotes pretty much carries her event, and Yuga Kshetra's remixes of JinaKarna interactions ultimately deliver what's still the most powerful scene in FGO. Honestly, only Haganeya (Lilim Harlot event writer) competes with Minase when it comes to hard-hitting references. His good sense for this shows in his great choices for which otherwise minor aspects of Sakura and Rani should take the forefront in this new context and which shouldn't. And then his handling of Lainur is about as masterful as his handling of Bazett. When Lainur drops the "Because it might cause something to change"? That's exactly what I mean by clever recycling of old quotes.
But enough about his strong suits. Minase's storytelling sucks for a couple reasons and the most prominent of them is that he almost never knows what to do in the middle. His good conclusions suffer from how he struggles to lead up to them in exciting ways. And his number one crutch for this problem is reaffirming the character traits that will be relevant to the good conclusions ad nauseam.
PAPERMOON also introduces us to Minase's crutch number 2: plot recycling. Again, his inability to plan the midfield leads him to corrupt one of the things he's legitimately good at. Here we get sections 5 to 12, a whole 50% of the chapter, dedicated to the most uninspired and uncathartic rehashes of Gilles and Zouken's arcs in Fate/Zero and Heaven's Feels respectively. Genuinely garbage recycling. This cool cast really could be doing cool things instead.
Ultimately, I think Minase was a poor choice for the Alterego chapter because the setting and concepts involved play directly into his crutches. Alteregos being isolated facets removes the absolute need for Minase to flesh out the characters beyond their necessary core, and System Grail War being a simulation taken from real samples facilitates otherwise inorganic repetition. He's an uncreative man thrown into the smack middle of his comfort zone and this is the result.
Final verdict:
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As for Ordeal Call expectations, yes, they did change. Before, I saw two routes for Ordeal Call.
A: pure Class mechanics-based filler that doesn't advance any of the plot points necessary for the finale.
B: final showdowns with each of the Apostles since Kotomine is Alterego, Dantes is Avenger, and Holmes is Ruler.
PAPERMOON was neither. It was completely unrelated to Kotomine, but it still changed the board for the finale by dooming Sion's plotline at the end.
Sion's arc in this chapter comments on how she's been always a sidelined cheerleader than a proper companion to Novum Chaldea, with her reasoning that she's not fit to be Fujimaru's friend because she predicted a role for herself in the finale that requires her not being a friend. This was already alluded to in Imaginary Scramble but mostly forgotten by the narrative otherwise.
Our main companion through this ordeal is an Alterego in the form of Sion's childish aspirations to be Fujimaru's friend despite knowing she can't, and the two of them are stuck in an unreal world where her actions wouldn't have consequences. So little Sion wholeheartedly indulges in this fun adventure.
However, even the most childish side of Sion knows that this cannot be. In the end, when she finally returns Fujimaru's Alterego to their complete self, she chooses to stay behind. The joyful memories of the child's adventure can't be allowed to return to the adult. Sion can't be Novum Chaldea's friend. This is essential to preventing mankind's demise.
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The young Sion closes the door behind Fujimaru and leaves herself stuck in an isolated micro-world. It's the only option Sion Eltnam Sokaris is capable of taking. And then comes the epilogue revealing the fallout of it:
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Sion remembers the adventure. Sion remembers being Fujimaru's friend. The bystander "unfortunately" became part of the team. The actress can no longer take the role in her script. It's over. She got attached to her sacrificial pawns. Sion had a chance to save the bleached Earth, but now she's suddenly faced with the greater challenge of saving both the world and the people she was planning to discard to save the world.
This is a big game changer for the final chapter, and honestly, in a route much more interesting than anything I had in mind. The Sion hype for FGO's finale is finally undeniably real. Took her long enough.
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shuttershocky · 4 months
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Consider, FGO Adds Iori, but he expressly says that hes not a servant, he just somehow ended up in chaldea, this is backed up by all the other servants with lines for him saying "yeah no, definitely still human". Gameplaywise he still functions like a servant tho cause obvious reasons, but lorewise they just flat out say "still not a servant". Might be a dumb way to do it but it might be the best way to go about it...
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Both of these miss the point of my post about Iori. It's looking at "Nobody witnessed Iori become a legend" as a technical problem to be solved with some rule-bending, and not the very reason why his character arc is so compelling.
It's funny because Samurai Remnant treats JAlter in the exact same way and for the exact same reason (fanservice). Jeanne Alter is an existence that can only appear in FGO because she was an accident, a wish upon a grail, a non-existent forgery. Despite that, the protagonist befriends her and makes her feel like a real person, with her story arcs centered around becoming her own person beyond just being tied to the concept of an Altered Jeanne.
But while developing Samurai Remnant, JAlter was a highly requested character. Rather than say no, Higashide came up with the idea of creating a JAlter lookalike, treating the reason why JAlter isn't summonable outside of FGO as a technical problem to solve with a little storytelling fiddling rather than as a critical part of the character's themes. The end result is probably the most underwritten character in the game, because she's really just coasting by on being a JAlter-face, since expanding om her characterizion more will make it too obvious it's an entirely different character lol.
That being said, I'm of the opinion that you can go against the original point of any storytelling concept as long as your replacement is cool enough (ex: Aliens being a sci-fi action movie vs Alien being a work of horror), I just don't really think FGO will do something cool enough to make it worth Iori.
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watcher-servant · 2 days
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Rusted Arc dialouge lines
This took way longer than it should've, but I did it.
Side note: His 3rd Ascension is a reference to Ragna from Ragna Crimson & Guider to the eternal edge from Granblue fantasy. He is a 3 star servant coming from an event.
Also, the Witch of the Holy Night Collab is coming out for FGO, and Aoko and Soujuurou look amazing. It also applies to Alice as well, but Alice and Aoko take the cake on NPs for the event.
Summoning (pre event): Greerings, I am the rusted knight, guardian of the Ever after. What's that, a fairytale, I see so you have servants connected to stories. Well then master, what story are you trying to tell?
Summoning (post event): Well, didn't think I see you again. Glad to see you again, Master of Chaldea. Since you helped me, it makes sense I do so in return. So master what will you have this freelance knight do?
Level up 1: Oh, I felt a change, it's almost like some chains have been lifted.
Level up 2: Mastery is a journey that almost never ends. I wonder what step is this?
Level up 3: Seems I reached a new step in my journey. Don't worry I'll always be of help when you need me.
1st Ascension: This form, never thought I see this face again. I guess proper introductions are in order. My original name is Jaune Arc. Though at this point it may not mean much to anyone.
2nd ascension: Hmm no changes huh? Well that's fine, though I didn't expect to return to my 19 year old self. Though it is nice Juniper recognize me instantly.
3rd Ascension: This...what is this apperance? These scars, my hair, and yet the strangest thing is, I feel so close to my aura. I think I reached a new understanding.
4th ascension: So, this is my limit as a Pretender. It's not bad, for a time I only accepted the role as the Rusted Knight just so I can survive. Though now, I owe a lot to the original guardian, if it wasn't for them. I shudder who or what I could've become.
Battle start 1: Despite the apperance, I'm tougher than you think?
Battle start 2: Now then what plan, would work on them?
Battle start 3: Which would you prefer, sword, fist, kick or a headbutt from a stampeding animal?
Battle start 4: Let's see what I can create?
Skill 1: *drinks from a cup* Thank you *hands it to a genial gem*
Skill 2: Think you can get past my shield?
Skill 3: Focus...*Quick burst of aura*
Skill 4: Gotta remember the basics.
Attack select 1: Got it
Attack select 2: Understood
Attack select: Grit your teeth
Noble phantasm select 1: As my decree of the rusted knight
Noble phantasm select 2: So shall we hear a quick tale?
Noble phantasm select 3: Looks like we reached a crucial point.
Noble phantasm select 4: A new chapter is about to begin
Extra attack 1: Go Juniper!
Extra attack 2: Get ready to fly
Extra attack 3: I'll mow you down
Extra attack 4: Now fall!
Noble phantasm 1: After all the leasons she learned, and the friends she made and lost. Who has she become? The leaves in the tress rustle on the wind. There was one question. Who are you? [Ever After]!
Noble Phantasm 2: I hope your next journey is more kind to you. [Ever After]
Noble phantasm 3: Everyone one is in place don't worry I'll patch you right up. [Aura Amp]
Noble phantasm 4: I got your back just leave the defense to me. [Aura Amp]
Damage from phantasm: I won't fall not yet!
Defeated 1: So...this is where my journey ends
Defeated 2: Finally I can rest...I leave the rest to you.
Battle finish 1: Looks like we made it.
Battle finish 2: *Sigh* that took more than I thought
Battle finish 3: Just like that job is done.
Bond lv 1: Oh is there something you need master. Or did you come to pet Juniper?
Bond lv 2: Despite me bearing this title, there was another knight in the Ever After. The best way to describe them would be...my mentor
Bond lv 3: Won't lie I feel really out of place here. There's so many heroes around...if I was my child self. I know he would ask for a autograph...or to train them.
Bond lv 4: What? Surprised I can play guitar? I'll be honest it's been so long I didn't think I could. Guess the muscle memory remained after so long
Bond lv 5: Didn't think I reached a place Ike this. I won't lie I'm surprised I was actually summoned as a servant. Trust when I say I wasn't anyone worth remembering...though most likely it was my connection to my mentor that I ever reached here. To be honest there's probably more deserving from my world that should be here...yet here I am.
Dialogue 1: Oh hello master, you mind helping me brush Juniper? Trying to get some of this loose fur.
Dialogue 2: The master servant contract. To think you manage to hold so many, I think that speaks volumes to kind of person you are.
Dialogue 3: To think I can use and mold my aura like this. The possibilities I can do...let's try test them out master.
Dialogue 4 (Child servants): Hmm what's that? You wanna ride Juniper, I don't mind and pretty sure she doesn't mind either. You guys gotta take turns though at least 2 at a time.
Dialogue 5 (Jeanne D' Arc): Hmm there's something about her...that just makes me feel odd. It doesn't help she looks like one of my sisters. Plus her name as well...an ancestor maybe. Huh? Oh uh...it's nothing.
Dialouge 6 (Jeanne Alter): Oh its...wait somethings off. Jeanne Alter? Hmm so there are servants with counterparts. Something tells me she's really caring, despite her attitude.
Dialogue 7 (Voyager): Hmm to think I meet the original Voyager servant. So far there's only 2 of us, but I think we found good company in our current classes. Seems even Juniper took a liking to you.
Dialogue 8 (Deck of heroes reference): It's strange, I swear it was my first time fighting along side them. Yet I could feel I can trust them. A lingering trust...can't be right.
Dialogue 9 (Tamamo no Mae): Hmm, Hmm huh oh Tamamo no mae right? No, it's uh, it's nothing. No, wait, what are you? HEY!?! OH ohhhhhh
Dialogue 10 (Oberon): Fairy King Oberon or Vortigern? Either way, you wouldn't be the first liar I've been around. As you're the first pretender I'll give respect, but that doesn't mean I'll fall for your lies. Dealing with a certain cat was more than enough
Dialogue 11 (Hephaestion): Pyr...no sorry about that. You reminded me of a old comrade from long ago. It's nice to meet you Hephaestion...quick question you mind a spar?
Dialogue 12 (Tlaloc): Wait you embody a city? That's pretty cool...though a part of me is worried if the Ever After takes a servant form. No wait...the blacksmith is the closest I can think of.
Dialouge 13 (Alessandro): The grand scam artist. I'm not interested in any of your tricks
Dialouge 14 (Lady Avalon): Hmm..Lady Avalon? It's a pleasure to meet you though and if you don't mind me asking...what is Avalon like?
Dialouge 15 (Mordred): Oh its you Mordred, something you need? A sparring partner...alright then.
Dialogue 16 (Atalanta or Atalanta Alter): Oh Atalanta, I believe it's my day to watch over the kids. Don't worry me and Juniper will watch them.
Dialogue 17 (Diarmuid): Seems that curse of yours is still causing you trouble? If you want I think we can seal it for a moment. Oh it seems that's that needed. I wonder how different you fight with swords
Dialogue 18 (Medusa): Hmm, think Pegasus and Juniper might get along. I think they would and it seems she likes you as well.
Dialogue 19 (Medea): I think I see why you were hesitant with me for a while. Jason is...a bit of work. Though something tells me there's more to him
Dialogue 20 (Emiya assassin): Kiritsugu...it took some time but it looks like you find some light again. Even got a family as well.
Dialogue 21 (Frankenstein): Oh hello Fran, is there something you need. Alright I don't mind you tying my hair...no full bows though.
Dialogue 22 ( Edmond Dantes or Count of MC): It's good to see you again Lord Count. I can tell despite the change of scenery your act of guardian is still strong. If you don't mind, I want to have a chat when you have the time.
Something you like: Hmm good question, beside Juniper being on this list. I do enjoy a nice meal with people and maybe be it around campfire. That is a idea though, a nice camping trip.
Something you hate: The merciless pursuit of power...getting innocent folks involved and hurt in the exploits. Another I can't forgive...is a fallen maiden, who doesn't deserve any mercy.
About the holy grail: If I was younger I would've made a wish with the Grail. Though with my experience now...there's always a cost when using such powers.
During an Event: Sounds like something big is going on. Wanna go see what's that about?
Birthday: Your birthday? Have you already told somebody it's today? Know what, follow me. I think it's time to show how fast Juniper can run.
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Gareth isn't named as one of the Tam Lin but like SPIRTUALLY I think that she embodies this concept even more than the three Tam Lin we're presented with in story, and in much the same way that Mash is Tam Lin Galahad. Ainsel prophecized the arrival of Arturia and the end of Fairy Britain but couldn't save her clan when it was annihilated, but her desire to help the world was so strong that she was reborn as Gareth, Knight of the Round Table, Knight of Londinium, the protector of children and loyal companion of the Child of Prophecy. There's an interesting thread about knighthood - Barghest only becomes sympathetic once she sheds Gawain's name and truly begins living up to her knightly ideals. Baobhan Sith was NEVER a noble or good person, and could no longer hide her desperation or her inadequacy once she lost Tristan's name. [Lancelot is the only one still clinging to the identity of the Tam Lin but her arc has literally only just begun.]
Anyway what was I saying? Ah yes. So Mash is continually held up as the ideal of a knight - but even though she was briefly a Tam Lin, her true strength comes from within. She doesn't need Galahad's name. She is the true knight of Chaldea just as Gareth becomes the Knight of Londinium under her own power and for her own reasons.
Anyway - Ainsel is a Tam Lin. Gareth is a true knight.
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