#anti winchesters

[vaicomcas]

Godstiel 2.0

This part of Moriah was not mentioned enough.

DEAN: All right. So, I guess we got to find Jack. SAM: Yeah. Then what? DEAN: ...Maybe we call Rowena, see if she can put together one of those, um, "soul bombs."

They were going to basically use the nuclear bomb to kill Jack.

In my AU: They went ahead with the plan. Cas caught wind of the plan and desperately searched for ways to protect Jack. He found only one. Just as they detonated the bomb, Cas used his S6e22 spell to absorb all the souls into him.

Except these are not monster/leviathan souls, they are decent human souls who didn't want to be obliterated by the Winchesters as a weapon against a child (we saw from 8x02 that Dean was perfectly willing to sacrifice more than a million souls from heaven to win the demon tablet in an auction). The souls were grateful to Castiel for sheltering them, and they were sympathetic to Castiel having witnessed his mind and his feelings. They willingly powered Castiel and supported him (see my hc about endosymbiosis).

A stable and immensely powerful Godstiel 2.0 now was able to see his and Jack's painful past for what it really was.

I won't write this fic because I don't know what happens next. It would be up to Godstiel 2.0. How would he help Jack recover and heal and thrive? What would he do to the Winchesters? I don't have what it takes to do justice to these tasks, but Godstiel does.

#castiel #Godstiel #dadstiel #Dean critical #anti dean winchester #anti winchesters #jack kline #justice for godstiel #justice for castiel #spn 14x20 #au #fic idea

[crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell]

I need a moment to appreciate that Crowley wanted to hear Cas' side. I'm talking about the famous Cas offering Crowley honey. But before that Crowley said "what do you have to say for yourself?"

And yeah it's such a simple question. By itself it doesn't mean much. But in context giving Cas an open ended question to give him more freedom with his explanation is everything

Listen, in the earlier episode TMWWBK, Dean doesn't ask Cas "why?" He says "Please tell me you aren't working with Crowley?!" He doesn't give Cas an open ended question so Cas can explain himself fully. Cas can only counter each individual accusation against him. He isn't given the freedom to start from the beginning

It really is meaningful that Crowley gives Cas an open ended question, and it's also sad that it's meaningful, as it's only meaningful because of how TFW treats Cas

What makes the scene even more heartwarming is Crowley is known for his temper. But while Cas is monologuing about bees, Crowley is oddly patient. He is patient because he actually cares what Cas has to say for himself. Crowley could have said "I don't bloody care about bees! Apologize!" But instead he wanted to understand Cas' point of view "what are you talking about?" Crowley said

And damn does Crowley have a soft spot for Cas. He doesn't want vengeance on Cas while he is vulnerable. Crowley says it's because it wouldn't be fun ( because Cas can't fight back. ) But Crowley also tortures people who can't fight back. Like someone not being able to fight back isn't going to stop Crowley. So he does have a soft spot for Cas, because lbr since when has Crowley ever cared about whether anyone was able to fight back or not?

And wow Cas' apology is so meaningful 🥺 He genuinely feels bad for hurting Crowley. He wants Crowley to feel better. Look to Crowley it's just honey. The apology doesn't mean much to Crowley because he doesn't care about honey and okay fair lol

But to Cas that honey is an amazing miracle that he wants to give to Crowley and Cas believes he is giving Crowley the most incredible gift like that apology token isn't Cas being flippant of Crowley's feelings. It was the amazing miracle honey he collected himself 🥹

#Crowstiel #Crowley #Crowley spn #Castiel #Crowley x Castiel #Supernatural #TMWWBK #spn s6 e20 #spn s7 e23 #anti Winchesters #Crowley was whipped for this angel #Crowstiel analysis #anti dean winchester

[crowleys-bastard-angel]

New Anti-Hunter SPN Discord Server!

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Are you someone who likes SPN but hates Hunters/the concept of Hunting?

Do you think that their mass-murdering of Monsters is wrong? Do you hate how the show and the fandom always push them as "good/heroic"? Do you think that Jacob Pond should have been allowed to get revenge on Dean for killing his mother? Do you want to do an SPN rp where the Hunters aren't glorified for once?

If your answer to any of these is "yes", then you've come to the right place! SPN: The Real Monsters (18+) is, to my knowledge, the only Anti-Hunter SPN rp server on Discord!

We offer the ability to rp SPN without dealing with Hunters/Hunting being glorified, and without Supernaturals/Monsters being demonized and treated like shit! We also offer OOC channels to talk with like-minded people about SPN and other topics, share pictures and memes, and more!

If all of this sounds good to you, then come join us now, and fight back against the Hunters today!

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#spn #supernatural #anti hunters #anti spn hunters #anti monster hunters #pro supernaturals #pro monsters #pro angels #pro demons #anti dean winchester #anti winchesters #sam winchester critical #castiel critical #anti charlie bradbury #anti claire novak #anti john winchester #anti mary winchester #anti bobby singer #anti mick davies #anti arthur ketch #anti bmol #anti mol #anti british men of letters #anti men of letters #anti jody mills #anti spn #anti supernatural #spn critical #supernatural critical

[samsrosary]

Ok but it makes sense jack didnt make all the monsters disappear because he is one and he feels kinship with them. he understands they are part of the food chain as much as humans are and respects them. Hunters on the other hand.

#anti winchesters #SORRY feeling bitterness rn #jack kline #i need to remember thigs about cas because i had thougghts on him too but ❤️ i forgot #spn #dictions

[castielmacleod]

I literally am against the spn institution of “hunters” entirely by the way. Which, I understand hunting is the literal crux of the show so inb4 “lol” I am VERY aware. But that doesn’t change the fact that I very strongly feel that very concept of hunting in spn is rotten to its core. Other people have said this better than me but, when you take a step back, hunters are a loose covert assembly of redneck vigilantes with guns who know how the world REALLY works and get to be judge jury and executioner in deciding who counts as “people” and who counts as “things” while protecting white suburbia. Which is already so optically bad like I cannot emphasise enough that this as a narrative is so steeped in eugenics, xenophobia, and American nationalism whether that was intentionally thought about or otherwise. As much as white LGBTs like to think this show is about gender or gay people or “nothing” there is a reason it remained popular with white right-wingers throughout its run and it’s actually NOT because they were waiting to see bi!Dean go canon, it’s because nothing they saw challenged their beliefs. And that’s true in so many ways—the racism, the misogyny, the bigotry in general—but hunting is definitely one of them. Hunting is a power fantasy for these people.

And then—going back to the judge jury and executioner thing—it’s especially disturbing when 99% of the designated “things” are LITERALLY people with lives, many of whom don’t WANT to be monsters and/or have taken steps not to do harm, and would accept help if given. Yet hunters are shown indiscriminately murdering these people anyway, all the time. And in the mid-to-late seasons when characters began learning or devising cures for being a werewolf, a demon, a vampire, etc, for a moment I REALLY actually thought lol. I really thought oh they’re going to start helping and curing people now but no they literally just kept on killing, because THAT’S what hunting is really about isn’t it. I mean demonstrably. Hunters are so obsessed with killing the “things” that any human side that could be saved is just…. forfeit. I always think about that scene in s8, the backwards exorcism scene, where the demon is actively leaving the body of Linda Tran’s friend. This woman was about to be fine. But then salmondean actively put the demon BACK into this literal innocent possession victim’s body, JUST so they could kill the demon, and in so doing they murder Linda’s friend and neighbour—who she’d just been having a visit with, who’d probably come over to support her as she worried for her missing son—right in front of her. THAT was the priority, not saving the human person who was in distress but winning against the demon. They did literally just stab that lady and I can’t help but think how normalised it is that hunters just know how to behead people or sever their hands and limbs and can also literally inflict torture on them without batting an eye at the extremely fucked up level of violence they’re enacting. Even hunters who weren’t raised in it and were just normal people off the street before meeting salmondean. Like…. christ lol. And sure they’re “monsters” but I cannot stress enough that they literally all look like human beings. Could you cut off somebody’s hands and be normal afterward? Could you twist a knife in someone’s thigh and listen to them scream in agony and be normal afterward? Maybe I’m just a sensitive namby-pamby but I’m going to be real, I don’t think I could!

And salmondean in particular will literally befriend “good” monsters all the time and make subjective exceptions for them while never giving any other members of their kind the benefit of the doubt. Why does Garth get the opportunity to live his ethical werewolf life while other werewolves aren’t given the same opportunity? Why did Benny get to go off on his own and trusted to source blood in ways that don’t involve murder, but not that literal teenager from that episode in s15 whose parents begged Dean not to kill him and swore they’d make sure he never hurt anyone? Why does Claire get to be cured of lycanthropy but no one else, ever? Why do salmondean shut everything right down to save Jody from demonic possession, but couldn’t offer the same to Linda’s friend? I suppose Garth, Benny, Claire, Jody, and so many others were lucky enough that the Winchesters got to know them first. But isn’t it overwhelmingly clear by the end of the series that monsters HAVE the capacity to not do harm, to be reasonable, to live full and normal lives without hurting anyone, and furthermore to possibly be rescued/cured? Why was there never a shift in the narrative toward realising that? Why were the literal CURES for lycanthropy, for demonism, for vampirism, etc never integrated into the way salmondean approach those problems? If “saving people” is supposed to be the family business and all. It’s just inordinately fucked up to me lol. God forbid the Winchesters realise they were wrong about something I suppose.

The rub is that I can’t help but be fond of more than a few characters who are hunters like Eileen, Claire, Rufus, the Banes twins, Charlie, Mary, and sooo many others, because like I said hunting is unfortunately the lifeblood of the show and there are just so many otherwise interesting and charming characters who happen to be hunters because of course they are. Like the few other vocal anti spn hunting people I see are also anti every hunter character ever but for me that’s like.. idk. That’s like hating characters in a sitcom for being unrealistically witty. You know what I mean? Those characters are unrealistically witty because they’re in a sitcom. Likewise these characters are monster hunters because they’re in a monster hunting show, and yes the monster hunting sucks but the characters themselves are FAR from unsalvageable. I have my own revisions of hunter characters in my writing in which they are exorcists or paranormal investigators or demonologists and similar roles, if not a normal occupation depending on who it is (like if they’re a kid) and I have a great time with that. But even from a strictly a canon perspective though, most of them shouldn’t have even BEEN hunters, or didn’t have to be, and I don’t just mean the ones who were groomed and had no choice. Like for instance Claire of all people should NEVER have been given a gun and never should have been given the opportunity or encouragement to use killing things as an outlet. Eileen could have been 100% focused tracking down on the banshee without any need to engage in physical violence along the way (and like Claire probably deserved more support when she was younger so as to not end up channelling her grief into violence because that’s.. just really fucking sad). Jody and Donna are c*ps so there’s nothing to say particularly for their interest in holding dominion over people, but someone like Charlie as an ostensibly well adjusted person with a job and engagement in grassroots political activism and rich social and dating life should never of her own accord decided to just start murdering people as a hobby. So forth and so on like if it wasn’t so narratively normalised this shit would be insane! And it is!!!

Anyway between the clear base in eugenics and xenophobia and right-wing paranoia, and the sheer hypocrisy and thoughtless violence of the characters involved—no matter how heroic the show tried to making hunting look it never failed to leave just the absolute worst taste in my mouth. And I’m not sitting here like “I can’t take violence in media ever” that’s NOT what this is about. Violence in media is whatever, it can be entertaining and fun and meaningful but it’s the way spn depicts its violence, the way its violence is largely institutionalised serial killing that is rarely if ever questioned, that’s what bothers me. That’s why the whole concept of this show needs to be just completely worked over and taken almost entirely from scratch if there is any chance of “fixing” it, so that either the “monster hunting” looks and functions completely different, or the hunters within the narrative start to realise that maybe hunting IS wrong and there are other ways to go about solving these problems, to go about saving people, that DON’T involve unilateral executions. That’s just me though.

#Winchester critical #Anti Winchesters #Anti spn hunting #If that’s a tag lol #My posts #Nothing like a crisp rant at 2am #And nothing quite like being obsessed with this show when you hate salmondean AND you hate hunting. Lol #Cas take the wheel

[exdeputysonso]

my favorite thing about people bitching about the winchesters is the people being mad cas wasn’t mentioned. it keeps catching me off guard in the comments on posts reblogged by my samdean mutuals. like that’s not even on my radar in this whole mess at all.

#my least favorite thing is everything else #no really i'm so tired #nothing has changed in the past year and a half plus #i'm not an ounce surprised by what i heard about the finale idk why everyone else is #that being said sorry i'll never hate jensen so i'm blocking that shit out #spn wank #spn discourse #anti castiel #anti winchesters #just for people's filtering

[mainenorth]

supernatural but the most supernatural thing in it is how nobody understands every single character is the human version of rat shit!

#anti supernatural #anti winchesters #anti destiel #anti dean winchester #anti sam winchester #supernatural #the entire show sucks #everyone is bad #jacks thoughts from the moon #( adam is the only exception because he got 3 episodes )

[godofstory]

finally someone said it

#supernatural #anti winchesters #i guess #honey cleaning up your own mess after thousands are already dead isn't heroic

[musclesandhammering]

I’m so obsessed with fics/headcanons/art/etc where Cas interacts with literally anyone other than Sam and Dean. In a platonic way, of course.

Like??? Cas meeting any human hunter at all, any friend of the Winchesters, any demon, any supernatural creature, any random person, literally anyone but Sam and Dean. Lmao I’m so sick of seeing Cas only talking to those two.

#Cas + anyone literally anyone at all #anti Winchesters #castiel

[waywardsunlight]

Pros of the Winchesters          Cons of the Winchesters Rowena                                      Everything Else

#spn spoilers #wow I haven't used that tag in a million years #supernatural #anti winchesters #just being silly ;P #rowena macleod #girlypop I LOVE YOU #Also thank you to the ppl who told me i love you

[wise-blue-cookies]

I NEED Cas to shout at Sam and Dean (s15)that----

"You're not his father, I am"

And To tell them to fuck themself and that their done and take Jack to Tahiti ( or see Taj Mahal, I'm not too picky).

#watching season 15 was like torturing yourself #dean winchester #castiel #sam winchester #anti winchesters #Jack deserves all the nougat in the world #Dean ' Jack is not family ' winchester can go fuck himself #cas go girlboss ur way through the toxic white men #spn season 15

[vaicomcas]

When Castiel found out Dean turned into a torturer in hell and broke the 1st seal and made the Apocalypse that much more likely, he said, "It's not blame that befalls you, it's fate."

When Castiel found out Sam had killed Lilith and released Lucifer, and when Anna told him he should be killed to prevent Apocalypse, he said, "the answer is still no. Because Sam is my friend."

When Sam and Dean heard some radio and tv headline news about mysterious killings, without questions, without investigations they immediately concluded Castiel was a monster that should be taken out by any means necessary. "Kill him, now!"

#anti winchesters #Dean critical #sam critical #castiel #justice for castiel #bitter cas girl

[crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell]

I hated Crowley being almost cured. I love every version of Crowley but

His new human emotions put him at risk of Winchester Derangement Syndrome and that has an unfortunate habit of making people want to die for the Winchesters

I hated Crowley being imprisoned

Every good thing Crowley did from Pestilence to saving Cas' life back in season 6, to teaching other demons not to fuck around with the ten years humans get, to helping to end Dick was done while free

Remember when Cas said his only option was to submit to Raphael or die? Cas would never submit but Crowley gave Cas enough temporary power to make Raphael back off

Whereas before Cas' show of power, made possible by Crowley's loan, Raphael probably would have gone after Cas way sooner and Cas would die before submitting

The only thing he did while in a devil's trap and chained was give them the names of two demons. When he helps free Sam from Gadreel it was in return for freedom

Crowley is way more inclined to help people free than chained up

Dean was okay with letting a demon who just killed innocent people in the Niveus office walk free after Pestilence. Like he doesn't even ATTEMPT to make a stab at Crowley after they got the information. Yet the moment Crowley goes after people Dean saved that's when Dean decides Crowley doesn't deserve his freedom? Dean only caring enough to go after Crowley when it got personal is not a good look for Dean

I like the fact that Dean allowed Crowley to go free so for me it's like why not let Crowley go free again??? like you have before???

Crowley **won** he would have no reason to go after who the Winchesters saved because Dean doesn't want Sam to finish the trials

The Winchesters act like Crowley is suddenly the villain for wanting to protect himself and his people

Crowley tried stealing the tablet and the prophet. It didn't work out long term. He tried getting new prophets, it didn't work out long term. He tried tricking Kevin by using shapeshifter demons it didn't work out long term. As a last resort he goes after who the Winchesters saved yet the Winchesters be talking like they didn't push Crowley into a corner and made Crowley desperate enough to attack them on a personal level

They be like Crowley attacking the people they saved was because he was evil? well okay he is evil lol but evil was not Crowley's motivation for attacking the people the boys saved

Crowley's motivation was self-defence and killing innocents wasn't his first resort

#Crowley spn #Castiel #Crowstiel #Anti Winchesters

[officialempressofhell]

So my mom just came home from a trip and showed me this necklace

They just straight up took the anti possession tattoo

She got it in an outlet store in a rural and small bavarian town

It's the exact flame symbol, but with the star of David. Like what?

#supernatural #dean winchester #also i guess #star of david #in a place you'd never expect it #(necklace of a rural bavarian outlet mall of italian fashion with the anti possession flames)

[navyblueart]

take a body, maybe your own, and dump it gently.

#dean winchester #spn #supernatural #cw supernatural #listened to my fean playlist while making this imho #but also: ah the need for eldest siblings to shapeshift into the thing their family needs them to be #how many times can u transform and get away wt it before it's murder etc. etc. #based on a grainy as hell screencap from the early days #navyblueart #anti wincest #wincest shippers dni

[2sw]

#sam winchester #anti possession tattoo #spn 3x12 #spn 4x18 #spn 8x02 #spn 13x02 #s3 #s4 #s8 #s13 #gifs