#anti house hightower

[drakaripykiros130ac]

Let’s face it, when GRRM wrote the ending of the Dance, he put a pause on the whole Aegon and Jaehaera union, and realized that something was not right here.

Sure, it’s an “arranged marriage for peace” trope like the one from The Wars of the Roses…but kind of unnecessary (since the Blacks won), and also kind of disappointing because it sends the following message: “Usurpers and traitors should be rewarded.”

Otto and Alicent Hightower wanted their bloodline on the Iron Throne. They schemed, seduced and then started a whole war for it. Making Jaehaera queen (and have her potentially give birth to Aegon’s children) would give these two opportunists a win.

And then he thought about Aegon III, a broken child, forced in wedlock with the girl of the mad usurper who murdered his mother right in front of him.

And then, GRRM asked himself, who would deserve the honor of being Aegon III’s Queen and mother his children?

1. A girl from House Velaryon, a House who has always been on the side of the Blacks (even after Rhaenyra’s death), and fought for the true heir to the throne honorably and faithfully?

or

2. The last girl from the defeated enemy party, who had Hightower blood coursing through her veins?

The answer is pretty clear. And as such, thinking about granting Aegon III happiness, GRRM created Daenaera Velaryon, the always smiling little queen, who contributed to healing the boy’s broken heart.

This is why Daenaera Velaryon is Aegon III’s true wife and Queen in canon and why her presence in his life is essential.

#aegon iii targaryen #aegon iii x daenaera #team black #pro team black #anti team green #queen rhaenyra #asoiaf #queen daenaera #daenaera velaryon #house targaryen #house velaryon #the blacks #rhaenyra targaryen #the dance of the dragons #anti house hightower #anti alicent hightower #anti otto hightower #asoiaf meta #fire and blood

[lizzie-queenofmeigas]

Does anyone (besides me) believes that the Andals having no magic means something?

The First Men, the Valyrians, The Rhoynar, all have magic of some kind. And in a way their gods seem to be real as well. Same with the Ironborn or the ones that whorship R'hllor. And pretty much every other religion and race in ASoIaF has magic, except the Andals.

The Andals have no magic, they most likely hate it (the Maesters) and their religion is the only one that seems to be non-existent. It just seems so weird.

Also, the Hightowers (dance era and prior) are Andals and religious zealots and always seem to be fucking up the Targs (the most obviously magical house). It just really gives me bad vibes.

#asoaif #a song of ice and fire #house targaryen #house stark #house martell #melisandre #daenerys targaryen #george rr martin #anti house hightower #anti team green #pro team black #pro house targaryen

[pessimisticpigeonsworld]

It's posts like this that show that Targaryen antis are really just jealous that their favs don't have dragons. They'll bitch about how "dragons are nukes 😠", then post little fantasies like this. They really are just pathetically jealous of the Targaryens :).

#anti sansa stans #they do it too #anti stark stans #anti team green stans #asoiaf #house targaryen #anti targaryen antis #anti house hightower #cause the stans are insane

[reignof-fyre]

You know, house Targaryen and their dragons would have survived and thrived if Jaehaerys I wasn't such an old, misogynistic cunt. If he hadn't tried to placate the lords of the realm and oh, I don't know, just named Rhaenys heir?

By calling the great council, Jaehaerys not only set a precedent that women couldn't inherit, but the lords have a say on who sits the throne, when in the time period asoiaf is set in, its an absolute monarchy and the King's word is law. He could have named Rhaenys, hell he could have named Daemon as heir and the lords would have to accept it because the King's word is law.

I get that Jaehaerys lived through the reign of maegor and probably was desperate for nothing like that to happen again, but the irony is that his choices also contributed to the Dance of the Dragons. His passing over Rhaenys and allowing the lords - high and low - the choice of who sits the iron throne, was the first step of House Targaryen's downfall.

He could have decreed Rhaenys his heir, who was still known as Princess Rhaenys despite having married Corlys, and have her kids' last names changed to Targaryen, limited the power of the Consort (corlys), and put forth laws that only targaryens may sit the throne even if their father isn't one. Like???

I'll always support my Queen Rhaenyra, but jaehaerys really fucked over the women of House Targaryen when it's actual canon that Targ women were always equal to their male counterparts. Visenya and Rhaenys I were warriors, even if Rhaenys I preferred not to fight. It's even canon that aegon married Visenya to become lord of dragonstone, hinting that Visenya was the heir???

Jaehaerys started the downfall of House Targaryen, Viserys pushed it along, and Otto Hightower took advantage of it, and you can't change my mind.

#anti jaehaerys i targaryen #anti viserys i targaryen #anti house hightower #asoiaf #me #hotd #daenerys targaryen #rhaenyra targaryen #got #anti alicent hightower #anti otto hightower

[annabethwarriorprincess]

If we accept it as fact that it's Ottos fault Alicent is Like That then its only logical that its Alicents fault that her kids are Like That but y'all aren't ready for that conversation

#house of the dragon #anti alicent hightower #anti otto hightower #anti house hightower #hotd

[witchy-v1xen]

There's not a day when I won't feel sorry for her. He never deserved her or any of his children. Ironically, he killed Aemma for a son only to eventually gain not just one but three and neglect them. He traumatized a teenage girl for the rest of her life, using her and leaving her in the dust like she wasn't shit.  

#house of the dragon #game of thrones #a song of ice and fire #house targaryen #anti viserys i targaryen #anti viserys targaryen #anti viserys i #fuck viserys #asoiaf/got #hotd #pro alicent hightower #alicent #queen alicent #the queen mother #my queen #my babies #poor babies #she was just a baby #she was just a girl #alicent hightower #hotd alicent #team alicent #alicent hotd

[stargirlfeyre]

God please take away all of her pain and give it to Daemon Targaryen.

#alicent hightower #house of the dragon #anti daemon targaryen #hotd

[the-daily-dreamer]

I will never forgive HOTD for making me sit through TWO Rhaenyra births and TWO Rhaenyra weddings…

But never having us see Alicent’s wedding or births. Scenes that would have forced the fans to confront the true reality of how despicable her situation is. It would force viewers to see a child, devastated, as she walks down the aisle to her creepy old man of a husband. It would force viewers to watch a little girl have a child. Completely unprepared and alone, crying for her mother and finding no sympathy. She has no father to protect her. No mother to guide her and comfort her. No husband who cares about her.

It would force team black to stop seeing her as the evil seductress, for even a moment. And see her true vulnerability. See how she doesn’t, and never did, want this. See how these are not consequences of her actions, but instead the consequences of the men around her that she has to suffer for them. Because they don’t care about her. Viserys doesn’t care about her.

These are scenes that are meant to bring sympathy to her character. To give Alicent a reason to be righteously angry at the family and system that broke her down and stole her childhood. It gives Alicent a valid motive to fight aside from fear. And it takes away the chances for team black to deny her suffering at least a little bit.

Because as the current narrative sits, it’s easy to ignore Alicent’s experience and warp it into a much more pleasant story. They see Alicent “seducing” the king and then she is already married. And then she’s pregnant and the babies magically appear. No screaming or crying or bleeding involved. All is good. The teenager definitely didn’t suffer at all. And by doing this some people can’t sympathize as much or they are given allowances to intentionally not sympathize.

Instead. The current narrative allows for Alicent to be the seductress, the crazed woman, the jealous bitch, and the villain. But if we saw what she actually went through. Alone, scared, suffering, neglected, and holding it all in. We would be allowed to see her as she truly is. The victim. Finally crushing under the weight of it all and lashing out.

(And the narrative would be all the better for it because instead of feminist icon team vs crazy trad wife and co (as far as team black sees it), we would have woman fighting against patriarchal narrative for her own claim vs woman fighting against patriarchal narrative to destroy the people who hurt her)

#house of the dragon #game of thrones #team green #alicent hightower #pro alicent hightower #good queen alicent #alicent hightower defense squad #anti team black #anti targ stans #anti rhaenyra #anti rhaenyra targaryen

[alicent-archive]

Her horrible night hasn't even begun yet, and she's already picking at her fingers ☹️

It just makes you wonder how many countless nights she had to endure this. How many times she was woken up because Viserys desired her, and her being able to do NOTHING about it.

She can't refuse the King; he's her husband. She can't refuse her husband; he's the King.

Alicent has to do her duty, and pleasing the King IS her duty.

Even though he mocked her in the Godswood in front of Daemon and Rhaenyra. Even though he laughed in her face. Even though he consistently demonstrates that he thinks less and less of her with each passing day.

Alicent Hightower—despite the late hour, despite the mockery, and despite her dissociating during the act—goes to the King and does her duty.

#idc that this is normal in Westeros. it's still a horrifying scene. #she was so brave guys. #she was so brave. #Viserys didn't suffer enough actually #hotd #house of the dragon #alicent hightower #emily carey #queen alicent #team green #my own #anti viserys i targaryen

[ai-megurine]

GUYS LOOK I'M A GENIUS

#house hightower #pro green #the greens #alicent hightower #anti targ #just in case #otto hightower #hotd #asoiaf

[drakaripykiros130ac]

Another useless TG argument: “Alicent asked to see the baby, not for Rhaenyra herself to bring him. Rhaenyra chose to make a scene.”

Alicent was separating a mother from her newborn simply to show off her power, and for the possibility to nourish her obsession in front of the whole Court (“See? See??? Brown hair! Brown hair!”).

Rhaenyra was supposed to do what? Allow the maids to bring her newborn child to the woman who despises her and who is known to have a vendetta against her innocent children?

Newborns are vulnerable. You mean to tell me that Rhaenyra didn’t consider that Alicent could have done something to hurt the child if he were alone in her possession?

Green fans are simply upset because Rhaenyra managed to counter attack beautifully by bringing the child herself.

1. She showed the entire Court how cruel their queen is, by demanding to see her and the child immediately after birth.

2. She showed true strength by managing not only to stay on her feet but also to walk a long way and climb stairs in order to reach Alicent’s chambers, and everyone at Court saw it and was in awe.

3. She was sending Alicent a very clear message: she would not be pushed around.

Alicent got away with a lot of things those many years and constantly abused her power without facing any consequences. Viserys just let her do whatever she wanted. She was very, very, very lucky that Daemon was away from Court. Married to Rhaenyra or not, if Daemon were at Court, do you really think he would have let Alicent get away with this psychological torture she was inflicting on the Crown Princess and her children? I actually fear even thinking what Daemon would have done to her.

#house of the dragon #team black #rhaenyra targaryen #pro team black #anti alicent hightower #hotd #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #game of thrones #got #anti team green #anti greens #queen rhaenyra #daemon targaryen #pro rhaenyra #anti green stans #hotd rhaenyra #anti alicent stans #anti house hightower #daemyra #pro daemon targaryen #hotd daemon #joffrey velaryon #hotd viserys #viserys i targaryen

[lizzie-queenofmeigas]

I know people like to say that Helaena is like Cassandra, but Daemon is the real Cassandra of the show. My guy was calling out everyone's bullshit since episode 1, if they had listened to him the Dance could have been avoided. But he is Cassandra, therefore no one did.

#house of the dragon #hotd #daemon targaryen #pro daemon targaryen #pro team black #team black #house targaryen #pro house targaryen #anti otto hightower #anti alicent hightower #anti team green #anti house hightower #helaena targaryen #cassandra of troy

[pessimisticpigeonsworld]

TG stans and this fantasy that they themselves created that the house hightower has relevance in the asoiaf universe, let's be honest, the dance was the only moment they had their 10 minutes of fame lol yes! they are a good house (loyal to house targaryen currently) but they are not relevant afterwards... they are not on the level of targaryens, tyrells, baratheon, starks etc hightowers have no impact on the books currently, even the Greyjoys are more relevant lol

TG stans must hate the ASOIAF timeline so much lmao. House Hightower's only actions have been through Ser Gerold, who was the lord commander of Aerys' Kingsguard. The head of the house, Lord Leyton has locked himself in a tower and is suspected of experimenting with magic, in direct conflict with the Faith and the Citadel.

After the Dance, the Hightowers are only ever seen either keeping to themselves or supporting the Targaryens. In the Blackfyre rebellion, they officially supported neither camp, that's the only somewhat exception.

I've seen some of them wave around Rhaena's marriage to Gormund Hightower as if that's some kind of victory, when really it just cements House Hightower's renewed allegiance to the Targaryens.

The Hightowers have very little significance after the Dance. Their power in terms of the realm is equal to houses like the Freys and the Boltons, but they do so much less than both of them. Their ties to the Fatih and the Citadel are their claims to power, and Leyton is possibly damaging those.

Honestly I think they will come into play in TWOW, what with the ironborn invasion and Leyton's interest in magic. However, they will not take center stage nor be as significant as they were in the Dance. That was their moment of greatest political power, and they won't return to that.

#anti team green #anti team green stans #team black #asoiaf #leyton hightower #house hightower #this isn't #anti house hightower #but i'll tag it that way #bc the stans are crazy lmao #house of the dragon

[spacerockfloater]

“Rhaenyra did try having kids with Laenor, but it didn’t work. That’s why she had bastards. What was she supposed to do, rape him?”

Babe. She should have not married him in the fist place.

I’m sorry, did you watch the show with your eyes closed? Rhaenyra marries Laenor because she believes that they can both fuck whomever they want in this relationship. She tells him they’ll both be free to dine as they please! The only thing she cares about is her own pleasure and freedom, not her duty! And I’m supposed to root for her?

#house targaryen #house of the dragon #team green #house hightower #anti rhaenyra targaryen #hotd #rhaenyra targaryen #alicent hightower #pro alicent hightower #house velaryon

[2rats1gogh]

I’ve never really seen anyone talking about this, but I noticed that one of the main reasons why I am team green is because team green feels like an actual team that is this whole thing together.

Team Green feels connected, united, like a family.

Team Black on the other hand is… meh.

And let me explain why:

Rhaenyra being delusional and thinking that Daemon is actually in love with her when he literally just groomed her since she was a child because he has always been after her title and now wants to be her king consort. They have one of the most toxic, creepy and problematic relationships in the entire fucking show.

Then there is the very awkward and uncomfortable moment of Rhaenyra and Daemon having sex on Laena’s funeral, while Rhaenys, Corlys, Baela, Rhaena and Laenor are mourning the loss of their daughter, mother and sister. How fucking disrespectful is this. And then the fact that they have Laenor “killed” just so they can get married and have their own perfectly blonde targaryen babies.

And Rhaenyra lying about Jace, Luke and Joff to everyone in her very own “team”, trying to gaslight not only Corlys, and Rhaenys but also her own sons into thinking they are trueborn, when even Jace himself. as a child, starts asking questions.

Then there are obviously Rhaenys and Corlys, who for some fucking reason neglected their trueborn granddaughters in favor of some dark haired white bastards their daughter-in-law is trying to pass off as their son’s children. Rhaenys is trying sooo hard to please her misogynistic husband because he so desperately wants his name to go down in history. Then the disrespectful betrothal of Jace and Luke to Baela and Rhaena. Rhaenyra is literally robbing these poor girls of their rightful claim to Driftmark and usurping them. And now, with Luke being dead, Rhaena’s claim dies with him.

Baela and Rhaena losing their mother, and now their father suddenly remarries, and has two blonde boys. Rhaenys losing BOTH her children and then seeing her son-in-law and daughter-in-law getting married soon after that.

Everyone in team black is after their own ambitions. They lie to each other, they don’t trust each other, they suspect each other in different things, they cheat on each other (with each other) and lie about it, they give each other forced ultimatums, and yada yada. All their scenes feel forced, tense, awkward and uncomfortable. They look so miserable with each other.

Team Green in this sense is the exact opposite.

Although their dynamic is far from perfect, obviously, you cannot deny that they care about each other very very deeply.

Alicent loves all of her children, and even while acknowledging their flaws, she still loves them.

Aemond might’ve been a little envious of Aegon, but he would never turn his back on him. He would never betray his brother, be would never try to take his crown from him.

Aegon was far from being a perfect man and king, but, as we know, it was his love for his family, and the fear of them getting hurt that made him a more responsible person and a more protective father, husband and brother. Sure, he is a cheater, but at least he’s honest about it and doesn’t lie to his wife. He is not a hypocrite.

Criston is working for Alicent not for ambition or for self-gain, but because he genuinely loves her, whether it’s romantic or platonic, doesn’t matter.

Helaena would never betray her family, her brothers, her mother. They are all she has. She would never switch sides even if given an opportunity.

And even Otto, arguably one of the main villains of the whole show, still loves his family. Sure, he is ambitious, but he would never become Corlys level of ambitious.

Team Green feels like they are fighting against the enemy all together, they have the same goals, they feel united and you can feel their devotion to each other. Especially after blood and cheese, when they become closer than ever. They’re in this together and only if they stick to each other, they can make it. It feels genuine and honest. They don’t hide anything from each other, they always have their loved ones’ best interests at heart, they would never in a million years betray each other. Yes, they are all doomed from the start, but their dedication and love to each other is truly something else.

#house of the dragon #hotd #asoiaf #pro team green #team green #anti team black #anti team black stans #anti rhaenyra targaryen #anti rhaenyra #anti daemyra #anti daemon x rhaenyra #anti daemon targaryen #anti rhaenys targaryen #anti corlys velaryon #pro alicent hightower #pro aegon ii targaryen #aegon ii targaryen #team alicent #aemond targaryen #helaena targaryen

[thesunfyre4446]

why are people so obsessed with comparing alicent motherhood to rhaenyra's?

their situations are so different. alicent had no support system, the only parental role model she had was otto. she was maritally raped and forced to have children at 15 with an abusive neglectful partner and no support system to help and guide her. (because yes, a 15yo teenager is still a child and needs help and guidance to deal with a baby)

while rhaenyra's mother also died, and viserys is also a shit role model, rhaenyra had children when she was older with a man she loved \ cared about. she chose to have kids with harwin. also, laenor was also a kind man and seemed to support her and the children.

alicent and rhaenyra both loved their kids and did the best they could. alicent is def struggling with her motherhood, but the way this fandom shows her no compassion and labels her as a "bad mom" while forgiving viserys's horrible treatment of his children is so disappointing to see.

people don't realize that "you're not as good of as mother as this other woman" is constantly weaponized and used to oppress women. and it's never "you're not as good of a dad as this other man". never.

#fandom bs #alicent hightower #pro alicent hightower #house of the dragon #hotd #team green #pro team green #anti viserys i targaryen